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NO more of kosem plz.

Razia sultan of delhi sultanate

@@chupameng6482 That's a great idea!

Yup, more in-depth look at the prominent figures from this period coming soon!

Nomadic turkic tribes has matricenric governors not like patriarcial arabic or Western states and they lasted this till Sunni culture founded as states religion

Hurrem didn't start anything! Gulbahar Hatun was the first convert Christian harem concubine who got Islamised and got her freedom the grandmother of Suleiman and she was Greek and Hafsa Ayse Sultan was first Valide Haseki Sultan! Hurrem was special only in series in real history she's not important at all in fact her sister in law Hatice, her daughter Mihrimah and her daughter in Nurbanu were far more beautiful and influential SULTAN WOMEN than any Hurrem was! Real Hatice had a beautiful and long life too she never married Ibrahim Pasha and never commited any suicide wake up !!!

Hurrem was nobody!!! Kosem Sultana had her freedom ,she had to face incompatible enemies, 2 previous Sultanas before her, Kosem was wealthiest Sultana, Kosem had her freedom and was legal wife,Ahmed I Sultan builded Blue Mosque for Kosem's favour, Kosem vanished all women in Ahmed's eyes without killing any concubine or baby ,Mahfiruze's kids loved Kosem more than their mother unlike Hurrem who was mistreating Mustafa, Kosem has her husband's name and her name written in Mecca and Medina cause of her charities, Kosem increased Ottoman Empire's wealth ,Kosem builted schools, hospitals and libraries (not Nurbanu) and looked after orphan kids and gave food to poor people! Kosem was a great icon herself plus Kosem was beautiful and intelligent and not pretty and vicious like Hurrem! Suleiman never asked Hurrems opinion about army and politics CAUSE HE KNEW SHE WASN'T CAPABLE FOR SUCH THINGS! Kosem had all trust ,respect and love from her husband Ahmed I Sultan! Read a little bit better who you compare !!!

And then so Kosem could end up stabbed and hacked to death by Turhan Sultana

@@asiminapateraki1680 Thanks for telling us that you're an absolute nobody, when you can publicly make such deluded assertions publicly about one of the greatest women who has ever lived

@@kayodewa Humanity can live without her! Go search other Exambles of true great women to see what greatest really means! Back off she wasn't some Cleopatra! Even inside Sultanate she was the weakest of all Sultanas!

​@@asiminapateraki1680 cleopatra the incest was a freak of nature who got put in her lowly place by octavian

Definitely, and for such a long period of time as well!

@@HikmaHistory Do you have a favorite woman from this episode?

@@HistoryandHeadlines I known that youre not asking me but my favourite is mihrimah but really like the character of hurrem and the power of kosem

Interesting how Monarchs parallel each other as there are times in Europe too where the Woman would have the power directly or otherwise.

@@forickgrimaldus8301 What is your favorite example from European history?

I agree but Kosem wanted to kill her grandson so she could keep her role of regent. She was a great powerful woman but also cold hearted.

@@flowermagnolia4551 to be cold hearted is what it takes to keep an empire standing.

@@martabeatriz6896 she was also a hypocrite because that's what Murat did

All of it inhumane and immune to it

Thanks! I have to start watching that

@@HikmaHistory yeah I really recommend it its a turkish series with 6 seasons which talks about that era of ottoman history its a drama action and hystorical show with great acting and story

Yeah I love magnificent century aswell, finished both of the shows. I think you shoulf watch Magnificent Century: Kosem, though, Hikma, as the first show progresses extremely slowly. But yes, definitely watch it and let us know what you think. The women in the show are also very cool ngl, my favourite is Safiye Sultan, she is too epic, she is referred to as the Golden Queen as she was extremely rich, some say she was more powerful than any female sultans to exist

@@Itstolinho Already do, amazing show!

@@HikmaHistory it's addictive:)

I've been meaning to get into it for a while now!

Yes I agree - I have only recently finished watching it and would have to say it is definitely my favourite from both Magnificent Century series as well as Ertugral and the current Osman series. Truly beautiful. Several episodes had me in tears and most episodes had me pausing the videos in order to 'fact check' - I'm now even more obsessed with Ottoman History! I am really enjoying the current pre-Ottoman series about the last Sultans of the Selcuk Empire - Uyanış: Büyük Selçuklu - but none as touched me the way Kosem did,

I just got hooked with Magnificent Century on how much politics involved in the Harem itself... One thing that I am confused abt is that the Royals were Muslims... didvthey marry each concubines b4 the Sultan sleeps with them.. Islam prohibits couples to sleep together outside marriage.. Why the marriage of Hurrem only carried out after they have been together?

@@zurina888awawahab2 That is a great question! I think (I'm not sure tho) the concubines were technically slaves and therefore the property of the Sultan; so maybe the fornication rule did not apply...

It made me crazy 😂

Definitely an extraordinary figure, video on her coming in the future!

Glad to hear it!

Yh I agree. But I would say that the Harem was a key ground for the unfolding of Ottoman politics.

yeah, and unfortunately the show was filled with countless misconceptions and historical inaccuracies like valide hafsa sultan being a crimean princess when she was of slave origins, mahidevran being a haseki sultan when the title was created for hurrem, hurrem & rustem plotting to kill Mustafa which was the biggest tale of all time and not true if one bother stop read about his execution, selim being such a bad person when he was an extremely nice person and definitely one of the nicer sultans, mihrimah & rustem being unhappy in their marriage when there’s no evidence to prove this, hatice’s marriage to ibrahim even though Ibrahim was married to muhsine, hurrem being so insufferable and chaotic when she was known to be a laughing & cheerful person, suleyman taking concubines to bed even after hurrem even though he had become monogamous to her by mihrimah’s birth, cihangir being extremely close to mustafa when there is no evidence to prove this, hatice & fatma & possibly beyhan being younger than suleyman when they were all older than him, sahihuban being a daughter of valide hafsa, kosem being so influential as haseki, halime being so evil when all she wanted to do was protect her son’s life, safiye being so evil even though she was stripped of power after ahmet’s enthronement, kosem & ahmet’s children, murat’s love interest farya bethlen when gabriel bethlen didn’t even have any kids, atike marrying silahtar, kosem & kemankes being in love w/ each other even though they were actually rivals who worked together for the sake of the empire [I’ll forgive this one cause they were so cute and i’d watch them in love w/ each other in a historically accurate version of mc as well lol] and soooo many more historical inaccuracies i could on for days 😂 i love the actors and the show is very addictive despite everything but a historically accurate version of mc, preferably with the same actors, would be amazing.

I heard about this, how strange!

@@HikmaHistory in India as well Turkish shows as well as Pakistani shows were brodcasted widely but with recent heated dialogues with Pakistan and turkey all of them were removed.....

@@HikmaHistory it was populeer nearly everycountry

@Cihat Sevinçli It was about kashmir. And turkish government supported pakistan in that matter. (Magnificent century was very popular in pakistan too)

Magnificent century.

Thanks Amanda!

Thank you!

@@HikmaHistory---Your welcome.

Thank you! Hopefully in the future, yes.

Thank you! A little bit of both. Most of these consorts are described as being various ethnicities depending upon the source.

It’s due to the fact that so many were European slaves and had no history till they arrived in Turkey.

and it’s also because most, if not all, of these women were captured at very young ages, educated & trained to be beddable concubines in the harem from when they menstruated. so many of these women could also not remember where they come from or their families etc.

More to come!

strange but true

Yes, but there is also a fact to consider: since almost all of them were born as peasants, we're not sure when they were born. Birth dates and some times even places are not certain.

As far as I know, the only valide sultan who wasn't born as a peasant was Hafsa, Suleiman's mother and Selim I's wife. She was the daughter of the Crimean Khan.

@@kmmmsyr9883 as far as am concerned Mirhimah Sultan wasn’t born a peasant because she was the Sultans first and favourite daughter. She had great power and influenced much into the ottoman era.

@@nativer1358 She wasn't a valide sultan. "Valide" means mother in Turkish, he was a daughter of Suleiman and sister of Selim II, as you said.

Ibrahim was executed by the permission and presence of kösem sultan,and it's true as all evidences are clear now. Ibrahim made worse mistakes which is not forgiveable so he had to die.if kösem sultan refused it she would have face the same consequences so she had to agree with them but she tried heart and soul to save her last one and only son,but after confirmation that she won't be able to save him,but it might cause trouble to her she agreed for the execution

Shamima Jahan this is what Western historians think, but Turkish historians disagree to that. Remember, Ibrahim exiled her and she was not at the palace. Westerners wanna bull s**t as much as they want all the time but I think we MUST trust to the Turkish professors who spent their entire life learning Ottoman History.

Hurrem sultan is the most powerful She initiated the sultanate of women

@@dianad1069 she also played a role in killing the rightfull owner of the ottoman throne şehzade Mustafa

@@hamzaabbass1300 you would the same if you were in her place... and 4 of your sons would be in danger For ur children as a parent is to protect them in the 1st place

I think so too!

@Evelina1995 She was clearly not the most famous one because Hurrem is the most mentioned Sultana in medieval Europe. In fact, she has the most paintings done by foreign people. Kosem was the most powerful, but definitely not the most famous. Even Haydn, the famous compositor, made a musical piece based on Hurrem called 'Roxelana'. There was no other Haseki in Ahmed's time and please cite sources that say Ahmed built the mosque for her. You are the same person with a different account spreading lies, be ashamed of yourself.

Thank you! I'm bringing out an in depth documentary looking at the entire history of the Ottoman Empire soon!

Great idea!

Totally agree with your point that she should be called 'Ruthenian' but I wanted to make it comprehensible for my viewers (I would argue more of them would know about Ukranian/Polish than Ruthenian, no?). The Ottomans were full of paradoxes it seems!

@@HikmaHistory I completely understand. BTW another fascinating example of a person from roughly the same region, who made an impressive career, after being kidnaped in a Tatar raid and sold into Ottoman slavery, is Wojciech Bobowski or Ali Ufki (also known as Albertus Bobovius or Ali Bey). I think you might find him especially interesting because he was working to lessen the divide between Christian Europe and the Islamic World by spreading knowledge and contributing to the cultural exchange.

Definitely in the future

Nope, not true. It's a common misconception.

@@HikmaHistory what resources you use? I have gone through a lot of documents and books ,those are authentic and original history

Check out Leslie Pearce - Imperial Harem. But the issue of Sultans prior to Suleiman having wives can be found in general Ottoman history books; I'm sure even Wikipedia might help you with that.

@@HikmaHistory Wikipedia is a big lie. I also read Leslie Peirce book. But those are not misconceptions

@@shamimajahan7204 | some sultans would marry before selim i to form political alliances. but the women they married were free born women from other dynasties. however, how suleiman broke tradition was that he freed a concubine, a slave and married her.

What are talking that is not picture of kosem. I think that picture one of slave in ottoman yes they say kosem is so beautiful.

There is no proof. Nurbanu maybe, but Safiye and Kosem were not married that's for sure.

Look at Bangladesh

Doesn't Bangladesh already do that?

Well now Muslim countries have had many Female rulers. In Pakistan, turkey, Bangladesh, etc

sheikh hasina shines on the world stage

@@meh0796 Male prime ministers served for 23 years combined in Bangladesh while female prime ministers served for 26 years so Bangladesh is exceptional for comparison Pakistan had the prime ministerships of 68 years and 5 years respectively and turkey had 100 years and 3 years respectively

Dude she left a really poor empire ....

U southern Indian?

@@nameredacted1448 why do you ask?

​@@nameredacted1448so what if he is we follow quran and sunnah as Muslim not modernist liberals Narrated Abu Bakra: During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler." حَدَّثَنَا عُثْمَانُ بْنُ الْهَيْثَمِ، حَدَّثَنَا عَوْفٌ، عَنِ الْحَسَنِ، عَنْ أَبِي بَكْرَةَ، قَالَ لَقَدْ نَفَعَنِي اللَّهُ بِكَلِمَةٍ أَيَّامَ الْجَمَلِ لَمَّا بَلَغَ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَنَّ فَارِسًا مَلَّكُوا ابْنَةَ كِسْرَى قَالَ ‏ "‏ لَنْ يُفْلِحَ قَوْمٌ وَلَّوْا أَمْرَهُمُ امْرَأَةً ‏"‏‏.‏ Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 7099 In-book reference : Book 92, Hadith 50 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 9, Book 88, Hadith 219

Hikma History hello. Where can I find your sources please ?

@@saladcaesar7716 I'll have an Amazon page shortly where I'll link the books I use that you can buy yourself!

Welcome!

Hurrem?

Bu without Hurem there would not be Kösem or anybody else of the Womens Sultanate

@@draganagavric4944 why wouldn't it?? Kosem was smart and intelligent and that explains her success and power.

bruh no it wouldn’t...Kosem manage to get power and other before her (aka Safie or Nurbanu) based on a road oaved by Hurrem. When you break traditions it is very difficult to get power more than your successor will, because it takes time to break the traditions. When the others followed, they each became more and more powerful. Nurbanu owes it to Hurrem, Safie to Hurem and Nurbanu, Kosem to all of them before her. They each picked where last one left and made it better. This is why everybody talks about Hurrem. Kosem was amazing, but Hurrem was first, and everybody remembers that. Remember Hurrem’s legacy refers to her period as Haseki only. She never made it to be valide because she died. Imagine how big she would have been as valide. Then again, it is much easier to be great from a position of power (Kosem did not get involved in politics at all while being haseki, only after becoming valide), while Hurrem never had absolute power and had to fight enemies at every step because she was vulnerable without a powerful position. Many of the things that Hurrem did less, were due to her big love for her sultan, which stopped her. If she would have been valide for Selim, after Suleyman died, she would have been much ruthless as no reason to stop or protect anyone anymore. Nurbanu owes it big time to her death, or else she would have needed to wait a lot for her reign, or maybe she wouldn’t even have it at all. All these happened centuries before Kosem so of course, if events didn t happen this way, if Hurrem didn’t exist, Kosem, even if very intelligent, wouldn’t have done as much. She would have to start paving her own road like Hurrem did and by the time she would get power she would get old and die, like Hurrem did.

Lmaaaaaaao she was not above murad 🤣🤣 and her regency was terrible

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Illbilge hatun was never erturuls wife it was shown only in the show in real life they didn't know each other and born in different ages and also shown in the show that halime sultan died during labor that is not correct and she died at age 70+ it was only shown in the show because the actress left the show

Ertugrul was a governor not sultan or founded his own empire

Not really, she was maybe as powerful as Hurrem, but she was killed by her enemies while Hurrem always won. Kosem and Hurrem are the most powerful.

kosem has 8 children as well ang became Queen regent 2times only kosem made it a valide sultana and a Regent at the same time

Power of the Valide Sultan went down significantly

She and her son Transferred the powers to The Viziers to Koprulu Pasha Then The Era Of Viziers came ruling over sultan and they could depose him too you can say a bit parliamentary system came prime minister or vizier became head of govt and sultan was just like a symbolic head of a state

@@junaidullahb8701 so its like they signed their own death warrant

Exactly,he is misleading people by false information

Can you give specific instances where he was wrong or misleading?

@@shamimajahan7204 where exactly?

Who was?

@@HikmaHistory Mahidevran was Haseki before Hürrem

@@HamzaHamza-yc4zq I don't think that title existed before Hurrem...

Mahidevran was never a sultan, she was bas kadin the title sultan wasn’t used for concubines before Hurrem sultan, please read real history and not only the series, also Hurrem was the first slave that married a Sultan this is why they gave her the title of Haseki Sultan, before Hurrem that title never existed.

@@lilianabudevici3271 | you are right, but there was no bas kadin title also. mahidevran was just a consort & mother of a prince, that’s it, no title other than being the mother of a prince.

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All concubines actually slaves and Islamic laws don't require slave to be married 🙂

OH WOW!!!! and where did you pull out this nonsensical opinion from? the closest source must have been your rare end. lol

@@hadijalali9179 nonsensical?are not turks ancestors from central Asia And were mongoloid looking?but they mixed with anatolian And european people

@@elsascridon7256 lol! Yup thats indeed an understanding of an extremely ignorant individual. History is not something that a clueless person could reinvent to fit in his very small head! Stop trying that and instead pickup a book!

@@elsascridon7256 No, Elsa. They were from West-Central Asia but not from mongoloid looking stock. Those genes start further East.

@@barbarapiazza-georgi3831 just rea Wikipedia And medieval chronicles how they looked when they arrived in central Asia before mixing with persians and anatolians

but it was easier for the europeans at that time to pronounce it hurrem

In persian

@@nafismubashir2479 Turks also pronounce it Hürrem.

@@tiktokarchive3277 they did ?

@@nafismubashir2479 Yes we did and still do. Kh sound doesn't exist in Turkish and we can't pronounce it.

Suleiman came to power in 1520

I believe so

@@HikmaHistory I feel really strange that why each of them is so old like giving a feeling of above 70 even shehzada mustafa bin suleiman is shown so old in the picture

@@HikmaHistory | i doubt they are because we don’t have physical descriptions of these women. these portraits are probably western depictions if these women. the women of the harem weren’t to be seen by non-mahram men and even if they went outside, they went in carriages & were veiled. if they met statesmen, they would talk from behind a screen [something very common in the sultanate of women] and they’d probably be veiled then as well. so technically, it’s practically impossible that these portraits are real.

well semi unrelated but in the Sunni version of the 14 infallibles the 10 men guaranteed heaven there was not a single woman listed in the Shias list 13 men and 1 woman Mohammad his daughter Fatima her husband Ali their sons Hasan and Husayn Zayd who is Husayn's son who married Hasan's daughter Zainab and the 9 imams in a nice father-son succession so it does not make sense why Iran is being attacked when disrespecting women is a Sunni thing