Where Clients with Complex Trauma Tend to Get Stuck in Reprocessing and How to Use Interweaves

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Thomas Zimmerman

Thomas Zimmerman

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Thomas Zimmerman, Ms.Ed., LPCC, offers EMDR Foundational Training in Cleveland, Ohio, and online. We can also train your whole agency. See: EMDRCleveland.com
There is so much to say here. Broad overview. Each point could easily be a chapter. Very little of this is mine, the metaphors are mine, but this is a collection ways of seeing that are helpful for me in understanding where clients get stuck in reprocessing, why, and what might be helpful in getting them unstuck, and what we subsequently do with that information. When clients encounter difficulties in any phase of EMDR Therapy, that isn’t failure and it isn’t evidence that you have done something wrong. It’s important information about the client’s nervous system and means of survival. That information needs to come so that we can use the lessons in it in the service of the client’s recovery.
We train you to stay out of the way, but if a client is stuck, your obligation is to try to help them get unstuck. EMDR Therapy with a client with complex trauma is a complicated task. We’ll explore some of the reasons why and how you might intervene when someone is struggling.
How do you know when someone is stuck when they have really complex trauma? Sometimes it is ambiguous. Because they are often connecting something big with a small amount of adaptive information, the metabolization can be slow. Questions to ask. Clients can be stuck in high anxiety near panic that won’t shift, clients can be stuck in a shutdown response (100 amp breaker), they can be stuck in the big existential loneliness of childhood (particularly if working on an attachment wound), they can be stuck trying to figure something out that is existential, or they can be stuck noticing on channels that just aren’t productive right now (thoughts, memory, etc), where things aren’t moving and shifting and changing.
Defining looping.
When someone is stuck, they are probably stuck in a perspective. Office shortcut metaphor. Interweaves help clients change their perspective.
Ideally, when we intervene, our interventions should match where the client is stuck. We shouldn’t just randomly throw something out. Car metaphor.
They are not sure what their role in this dance is.
Blocking beliefs. Hopefully, you will pick up on these in your Phase Two. Phase Two is the canary in the coal mine for blocking beliefs. What is a blocking belief and why is it a problem?
Too big of a target too soon.
The target memory is an attachment wound. Why attachment wounds are about everything. What might you do. Long resonance after sessions is common when not working with attachment resources.
Detailed Attachment Figure Script:
gowiththat.wordpress.com/2022...
If the core of EMDR Therapy is activate a piece of difficult stuck information, notice what comes, while the brain gets a left-right stimulation, let’s evaluate potential stuck places.
Activate: Are they activating in ways that are tolerable? Is the activation from the memory or from an agenda? Are they allowing too much memory content to connect too soon. We need memory content to come, but we need it to come at digestible rates.
Notice. Noticing is the bright yellow line in the center of the EMDR road. Is the client noticing? Does the client know how to notice? We may need to be very clear about what noticing means. The difference between being aware and noticing clearly.
Left-Right Stimulation. Always a possibility that switching bilateral may be helpful.
Stuck in guilt, shame, blame, or responsibility. Appropriate and not developmentally appropriate types. Assessing for adaptive information, clues in Phase Three.
How is your relationship with your client? The relationship is a key component in what is effective in EMDR Therapy. How is your client’s parts relationship with you and your parts? Did you ask consent to work on this memory, attempt to address concerns, and listen to a concerned part when that part has an agenda different than yours? If you didn’t, their parts are likely already aware of this quality in you. Working with a system always easier than pretending that you are not working with a system.

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@ilovedgagarin2
@ilovedgagarin2 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Thomas for sharing this priceless information! I didn't expect to find such valuable resources online for free! You are the best!❤
@user-ob4wi2ci6w
@user-ob4wi2ci6w 9 ай бұрын
working with a client that seems to lack the awareness of how his memories are impacting him now/what beliefs are a result of the memory, and a part that has been presenting is one that is very resistance to the process and is quick to dismiss his feelings, exposing the belief that he's not "traumatized enough." It was extremely helpful to be reminded of the need for parts work and the exploration of this resistance rather than just the comforting of the fear alone. I plan to use the attachment resource as well! Thank you!
@chrismalex
@chrismalex Жыл бұрын
Thomas Zimmermann you just rock! Thank you!
@mattw4405
@mattw4405 5 ай бұрын
Wow! Unbelievably helpful,many thanks.
@Encounterswithcuteness
@Encounterswithcuteness 7 ай бұрын
Wow, this is very educational. Id like to ask if you are available?
@daniellec2172
@daniellec2172 6 ай бұрын
hoo boy, the attachment portion of this video just makes me bawl. I have nothing for this that doesn't seem to trigger me. How will I ever develop an attachment figure that I can hold onto and remember? It'll take me so many expensive sessions just to try to develop a figure. Then I'm supposed to believe in it somehow? Maybe Jesus is actually not a bad idea. I'm atheist/agnostic but I do remember praying to him once or twice as a kid. It's all just magical thinking but at least millions of people seem to think Jesus is real.
@chooseaname1423
@chooseaname1423 Жыл бұрын
I’m curious if you have any content regarding working with adults who have no memory of their childhood trauma (but know it exists due to witnesses and also understand that the type of trauma they endured is affecting them in the present). Can emdr not start there because there is a not a memory of it? Is it dangerous to uncover that memory or necessary?
@thomaszimmerman6659
@thomaszimmerman6659 Жыл бұрын
I would check to see if memories are simply not there, or if the client is struggling to find individual memories, because trauma was daily. Therefore, none of them really stand out.
@thomaszimmerman6659
@thomaszimmerman6659 Жыл бұрын
If the latter, see: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pc-njdNqyMvMZmw.html. If the first, start processing with the stuff that the client does have, even if it isn’t childhood stuff. Often stuff can come at a measured and safe rate when we work backwards.
@joruff6422
@joruff6422 Жыл бұрын
One of the things that seem to block my clients is that they are yawning and feeling really tired. This happens so often and I keep having to stop. Should I be?
@AmapollaOfficial
@AmapollaOfficial 8 ай бұрын
That is something that Richard Schwartz , the creator of IFS , talks about . When one or more protector parts prevents the self from acessing the ´´ child ´´ and its pain . You gotta ask permission for this so called protector to acess the inner child ( and the traumatic experiece associated )
@Pipananda1
@Pipananda1 4 ай бұрын
I don't use EMDR but it's a somewhat similar process and yawning is usually a good sign that we are getting somewhere. It doesn't interfere with my sessions at all, but what I do is structured differently. Maybe just reframe how you're seeing this. The metaphor is that energy is shifting and barriers are dissipating. I point that out to my clients aand we keep going. The tiredness on the other hand is something else and usually shows up near the end of the sessions. When I notice it I ask how they are doing to see if they want to go on or wrap it up. My theory is this process just uses up a lot brain energy. I've personally experienced both these things in hundreds of sessions I've done on myself.
@garylines5755
@garylines5755 6 ай бұрын
A patient cured is a customer lost and a person on meds makes a good customer.
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