While Jiren might have been nerfed in the manga to no longer be God of Destruction level, how powerful do you guys think Jiren has gotten currently? Especially considering everything he's learned over the Tournament of Power, and his desire to surpass even Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku.

Jiren is hanging out with HIT the legendary assassin and Hit is happy to finally have some company from being a badass to an afterthought

Been saying it for years don’t be shocked if full power TOP Jiren is 1-10% of current full power Jiren. Jiren is the only character with an obsession with strength that rivals if not outright surpasses Goku and Vegeta. Now you add him experiencing god power from the tournament , learning from his mistakes, and now finally accepting team work he may have not only gained new titanic levels of strength but has opened himself to learn new techniques from his comrades or even his universes gods. He is also looking forward to matching Goku there is no way he is still around the same level. He awakened a new level of power mid fight just by being pushed by Goku pushing MUI Goku and landing blows until Goku gained the upper hand and burned his power out. Jiren through his own training had his own version of spirit control. Obtaining such mastery over his ki when he powers up it almost looks like god ki. Most likely Toppo like Vegeta is mastering their god of destruction power and he could possibly be Jirens sparring partner. Jiren is the single mortal I believe next to Goku who can master and learn ultra instinct. Jiren through effort pushed himself to higher power levels and has shown himself to be not only someone who is stronger but more skilled and perceptive than even Goku. You combine that with his clear mastery over body and mind if he so chooses he could meet with his angel and learn ultra instinct. Stacking that kind of power on top of his already pre built universal levels of strength I can’t imagine how strength he could be

Jiren will only grow in power, and most likely try to rival Goku. Btw, that thumbnail with ultra instinct Jiren is LIT!🔥🔥🔥

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true power comes in Base not Transformation because Base is where you can utilize 100% of your powers as their is no burden on the body, mind or spirit, and the only transformation to have this for Saiyans is SSj1. the best thing Vegeta and Goku can do is to incorporate their Saiyan Transformation into Permanent base meaning they will lose the ability to Transform but have access to that power in Base without any burden.

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People tend to forget Jiren is one of the only rivals of Goku who’s obsession with power actually rivals if not surpasses Goku himself

Manga Jiren must be weaker then Anime Jiren. Anime Jiren was pushing SSBkaiokenx20 Goku back with his eyes, with like 7% of his power. I honestly hate this rectcon, it removes the stakes of the ToP by trying to make it seem more even, when Jiren was a force of nature for them to beat. I like Jiren a lot, not more then Hit or Zamasu, but i think hes cool.

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its obvious, just because you have a Power level of 10,000 does not mean you can utlize that power to 100% efficiency, the same is true in real life when humans eat the energy we get is not 100% this just means that Goku and Vegeta power has not changed since they finished Whis Training meaning their power level is the same as it was during Tournament of Power the only thing they are missing is actual Mastery over their own powers so returning to OG Dragonball when it was all about martial arts the reason this happens was due to Dragonball Z, the mastery of Goku Martial arts could not keep up with his gain in power level, from Raditz Saga he went from 400 PL to 8,000 in a span of 1 Year the to 3million is the spam of several months after that. his Martial arts was still the same level since Training with King Kai who also taught him Spirit training with Spirit Bomb and then training on Yardrat after Namek meaning Goku only had completely control of about 3mil PL after that his Ki control never increased until he met Whis but the damage was already done the Foundation had to be redone as the Power level increase is too massive so the ultimate downfall here is that the saiyans mastery over their own Ki could not keep up with their Power level growth so the efficiency of energy usage has been getting lower and lower as their energy grew, very typical stuff in fiction, if you had a PL of 100 and you had 100% control down to the atom size and suddenly your energy grew by 1000x your control would become shit due to the explosive growth of energy.

Facts 💯Jiren would easily surpass everyone if he even just had a hint of god power

They should have went to the HBTC and train like in the cell saga

I honestly wonder what makes you think dragon ball is mov8ng in that direction specifically?

I feel like they are eventually gonna stop using Saiyan forms and only focus on the God forms

I 100% believe jiren to be above belmod. Jiren was able to become a god of destruction while belmod was still a pride trooper but he turned it down due to the fact that he doesn't kill

Goku and Vegeta utilization of power is likely in the low 10% if you think about it SSJB had terrible stamina to the point only using it once a day drained Vegeta to the point he could not even use 10% of its power Vegeta needed Deep Blue yet still no match for Jiren even tho Jiren power was similar meaning the difference in utilization of Ki is at least several dozen times

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I would like to dub jiren's full power as "Ultra Efficiency"

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Ill always take two or more fighter to take on or down Jiren💯🔥

I don’t think Jiren could beat Belmod. Not only did he damage all the other gods with his card attack but he took a direct hit from that fox god and took no damage

Its called reckon

0:28 even tho goku legit said this in dragon ball z

What if master roshi were Saiyan 😂

pretty sure they will write in Jiren to be stronger after the Tournament.

So the whole story is now backtracking ? Whole series was literally abt who’s more powerful now it’s just not

What if Jiren went to old Kai?

Jiren first introduced fought Goku , Vegeta , android 17 , Frieza & Hit within 40 minutes in beat them all at least once 💯🤣 Half the time in base form

Cut it out Jiren was never nerfed , make it make sense

When Jiren becomes fans favourite and now they have to turn our focus to Goku and Vegeta. What do script writing :- Let's make Goku , Vegeta same power level as Jiren. Reason - 'not utilising power efficiently'. Your fans are fools they will go with anything😂. Politics and Dragon Ball are the same.

0:21 no one actually buys this right? 💀

Nah blood you lie Jiren was insanely strong

below moro

Above Beerus