It's been FOUND!!! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldiUZ8ims92npqM.html

there's something beautifully ironic about a song called "everybody knows that" that nobody knows anything about

carl92 definitely did not "lose interest," his ass was ashamed of the attention 😭😭😭

At least with "the most mysterious song", we have the full recording. So even if we never figure out who made it, we have it in full. Having just a snippet is almost maddening.

carl was definitely experimenting alright…

As someone who lived through the 80s and 90s and vividly remembers TV from that time, I can almost 99% certain say that this is from a TV commercial. It has that TV sound, not radio. And, also as someone who lived through the 80s and 90s, it's 100% plausible that a 7 year old kid decided to record some random music. That was how we made playlists back then.

People tend to forget that up until the mid 80s you rarely, if ever, heard contemporary music on tv so every commercial had to have its own original music.

imagine how much lost songs we have from the 70’s/80’s/90’s era

In Brazil we have a search for a incomplete instrumental song that is publicly known since the mid-80s, it's easily recognizable by the entire population of the country by multiple generations and is being searched online for at least 10 years yet nobody can trace its name or country origin. It's definitely the most heard unidentified song of the world. It was branded as the 'lost Chapolin Polka' and there are multiple posts describing the extensive search conducted.

My thoughts as a hobbyist music producer: This is NOT a hoax. This sounds EXACTLY like the mid 80's. Those drum sounds....the synth sounds, the reverb, the hooky melody. Especially where she sings 'tell me the truuuuth' sounds right on point for 1985 to me. Of course it can still be created today, but why would someone? Anyway it's a bop and I hope the full song is discovered. It will be in my head all day. 😂😂😂 My guess is he recorded this off his TV/monitor and this is just what happened to be on TV when he recorded the audio. It's just a random slice of some commercial or TV show intro.

The thing is, there's a LOT of songs that have been made throughout the decades by a LOT of small and obscure musicians and a LOT of them have really only been heard on stuff like commercials and are never heard from again because they weren't meant to be widely released like music singles and albums (unless there's some label that releases specifically albums with commercial jingles). Meaning that it's possible that OP just so happened to record a snippet from some generic 80s song used for a commercial that only aired in a few stations that no longer exists and that's all the proof there is of it's existence.

this aged so well

Mistaking France for Spain on a map is certainly one of the most American moments of all time

edit: WOW. I was SO wrong. This song ended up being found in a porno XD I lean into the commercial theory. I hear "Everyone knows that, she's...got ulterior motives" It makes me think of a food commercial where a woman acts like she wants one thing, but really just wants the food.

i remember when i found my own personal “lost song” many years later. it was a song called “mr.jinx” by the band Quarashi. finding it was an amazing feeling. oh there was also an episode of pete & pete where little pete found his lost song

As a GenX in her mid 40s, this one drives me crazy because it really feels so familiar!

You ever notice how many of these mystery songs appear to come from the 80s or 90s? The 80s and 90s had so many bangers we couldn't even keep track of them all

I was a kid in the Eighties, and I can at least confirm that they would definitely go "this hard" for a song in a commercial. Take a look/listen to the 1985 Plymouth Duster ad. It's basically a full on music video. I think "Everyone Knows That" is probably from a commercial as well, which would explain why it was recorded from a TV.

i love that the lost song from the 80s is associated with a boombox that was made 20 years later

Carl definitely had some ulterior motives

Man i wish this gets found soon, i love listening to 80s/90s music and it sorta feels creepy that literally nobody can find this song-

"Spain gets signals from a lot of places!" Arrows on the map all point to....FRANCE! :D

Long reply on this one. I’m NOT at all convinced the singers are Japanese. I believe that theory is coming from people who haven’t heard how badly an aged cassette tape sounds. I encourage folks to record any ‘80s Wham! (George Michael) song to an old cassette tape, then play it back. While that won’t suddenly make a song mysterious, it will sure butcher the original quality and provide a different audio quality perspective. Pitch shifting to D is just a start, there’s so much more hours needed with trial/error patchwork. Not to mention that we don’t know various aspects involving the og media itself. What tape was used, what recording device, what’s a more reasonable timeframe of recording given the tape’s other content, where was the tape stored, what temperatures was it exposed to, etc etc. I have spent time helping track down leads for Like the Wind and On My Mind. I will be adding this one to my hunt, to which I hope to continue to help the growing community and the amazing volunteers give at least one of these songs a name and an artist in the next year.

I'm surprised that THIS isn't classified as the most mysterious song on the internet. Atleast for that song, we have the full version, but for EKT, we only have a few lines to go off of.

Someone should put it in a movie, and 1000 people will come out of the woods to claim it.

Why does it have to be a bop tho?

"a young man by the name of carl was experimenting" aged well

Guys.... IT'S FROM THE 1986 PORN FILM " Angels of Passion " AND THE SONG WAS JUST FULL OF SEX NOISES EXCEPT FOR THE ONE PART WE HEARD 😭

Ah yes a video on my new obsession as of right now with lost media. I genuinely hope this song is actually real and gets found it’s too good 😭 that 20 second clip isn’t enough, I NEED IT IN MY SPOTIFY PLAYLIST-

there is absolutely NO WAY a song that goes this hard not only wouldn’t be immortalized, but would be forgotten completely

I've seen some people speculate that it may have been from one of those toys that played song snippets which would explain 1) why it starts at the chorus 2) why it's so compressed 3) why OP might have been 7 at the time of recording

Yes, this song feels familiar. I have a feeling it's TV related. As stated, a commercial, a TV show or featured in some 80s European movie. (As a Swede I would guess that it could potentially be swedish in origin since there were a lot of similar sounding music like that here during that era).

I cannot accept that this was a stunt on carl92's end. I feel that the lyrics about lies and mystery are just coincidence and wouldn't be out of place in a pop song, especially one about love And even if we view the lyrics as evedience that this was made as a promotional stunt; then who in their right mind would self-release a snippit on a site dedicated to finding music, give it lyrics all about secrecy, only to reply to comments like "who made this?" and "can you give us a longer cut" with a shrug and leave? even for a cancelled project his reaction seems totally backwards to his own self interests if this was a song that he made However the seemingly interrogative lyrics do point me away from this being made for a commercial, not to say that people shouldn't be searching up Western European 80's-90's ads, but I do feel that this is more likely a personal project made by a very obscure euro pop artist

Carl doesn't have a full song, he stated that the 20 second clip he posted is all he has. He got asked about it in the original thread and stated as such, so tbh a kid messing around with recording devices and recording random snippets of audio from movies, tv shows and adverts from a tv is honestly more plausible.

Ok so, this might be just a bit out there but I want to throw out my theory, take this with a grain of salt though I'm also from Spain like carl92, and over here there's this program called "Cachitos de hierro y cromo" which is like a compilation of short 70's 80's and 90's music video clips with text commentary, I watch it with my family around every new year's day and a lot of the song clips i've heard sound extremely symilar to EKT, and to add more to it, each music video clip lasted around 30 seconds or so, so It could explain the small sample we have, if It were to have appeared in some obscure airing of Cachitos de hierro y cromo, we could find the band and name of the song, I don't know if the program aired around 1999 though, but i'm just throwing out my own theory about It, hope It helps.

Aside from it being potentially from a commercial, I think it might come from one of those made-for-tv movies or even a foreign film where they'll sometimes write music specifically for that project, and will usually try to mimic other popular pop songs instead of skirting around copyright or budget issues.

I think one reason why people believe that Everyone Knows That could potentially be a full song is because earlier this year a song clip called ‘I’m Yours’ was uploaded that was later identified to be Is This Love? by DaYeene. Of course, nothing’s saying that Is This Love? is the reason for that conclusion. Honestly, after listening to the clip many times beforehand, I’m surprised no one considered the song to be part of a Barbie commercial or promo. EDIT: Well now, that's definitely what I wasn't expecting. Now we know why there was only a snippet of the song.

Can't believe people were going all CSI for a song from a 80s porno lmao.

As a big Savage Garden fan, I'm shocked that the band could even be suggested in this. The singer sounds nothing like Darren Hayes and none of their songs sound similar. The duo are also very on the side of "our music belongs to our fans", so if this was Savage Garden, there is no way this would still be a mystery by this point. It's not Savage Garden.

Something about the song being completely lost to time gives it this eeriness. When it plays I imagine an old derelict mall frozen in the 80’s all the lights are out and darkness consumes the building, a blanket of dust lays on everything inside but the old PA system is still playing this jingle I dunno it gives me nostalgia for a time period I wasn’t alive to experience

6:43 That's not Spain bro... 💀

10:28 the OP released alright 😂

The "counting all the sheep in the sky" line plays in my head all the time its so catchy. Also it 100% reminds me of a shampoo or lotion commercial and if he was a kid recording a song from an ad he liked why would he remember it came from an ad if he was younger.

The lostwave community really came together to solve this one and brought this long and hard search to its climax.

My mom is amazing with music, remembers so many random songs, but this one and the most mysterious song are 2 that she still can't place!

🎵Everyone knows that you got ulterior motives Tell me the truth🎵 hits hard knowing how it was found.

Gonna throw this theory here, since I'm spanish... But maybe this is a recording of an old tv show that played clips of music. One of them, for example, was Videomix, aired in TVE1. I'm mentioning this specifically because, if it was recorded in Spain, I do not think this is from an add. Most back then were in spanish, and if the song acompanying it was in english, there would most likely be a narrator on top. Recording videoclip TV shows was extremely common back then. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a VHS tape of one of those shows being played in the background for this test.

I’ve placed this comment in a few spaces already, but ‘It was common practice in the 80s and 90s for unknown artists to play their music on radio stations during ‘special hours’ where they can submit their songs in hopes that a talent agent was listening and looking for new talent’.

A shoutout to the person who made it thru several full length adult movies to find this song. The man really likes his movies

I was watching this with my dad and he pointed out that "counting all the sheep in the sky" sounds more like "counting all the shapes in the sky" which frankly makes more sense as a lyric anyway.

I'm glad someone else pointed out the lyrics feeling meta

I wish the subreddit community for finding this song was less hostile. I showed the song clip to my mom, who is in her 70s and lived in both Europe and the US throughout her younger years. I made a reddit thread with her ideas on the song, as well as my own input. Nothing but negative comments berating us. Because “everyone” knows the song and none of them actually do. Like. Geez, isn’t the point of the sub to help find it? How tf do you find it if you shoot down everyone’s perspectives? It was so jarring I deleted my post. Now I couldn’t care less if the song got found.

It has an Japanese idol quality about it. Like it was taken from an OVA

man carl was freaky freaky

The vibe I immediately get off the song clip is...written and recorded for an episode of a cartoon. I know that seems a bit specific, but it sounds like one of those "let's have the show's composer come up with something really quick that sounds like a pop song" things. Either to be a pop song within the fiction of the show, or to be a soundtrack song that emotionally reflects what the characters are going through, that had to be made because they didn't have the budget to license an actual pop song. The lyrics don't scream commercial to me. "Ulterior motives" is not something you want to remind people of while trying to sell them something. It does however seem to suggest character dynamics. Lyrics reflecting, perhaps a bit on the nose, what's going on at a certain point in a story. Live-action shows would occasionally do this kind of thing as well, but it's something I associate more with cartoons. It could be from some obscure anime or something, if indeed the singer's accent is Japanese.

I’ve found so many lost songs on demo cassettes at thrifts

When I first heard everyone knows that, it made me think of the 90s when my mom used to take me with her to k-mart to get her pictures developed, because that's the type of music I remember hearing in there during that time. It makes me think of how magical and new life was when I was little. I think that's why I latched on to it all so much. The search, the song itself, and the little pink radio.

I immediately thought it sounded like a commercial it just has that vibe, and being recorded from a tv helps that theory

No wonder he went missing…

Oh, Carl92 was experimenting alright, just not with audio recording lmao.

“Sinister energy, it looks forbidden” 😭😭😭😭😭🤣😭🤣 the boombox wasn’t the only thing forbidden 😭😭😭

did not expect this to be found the way it was...

Where Does This Song Cum From?

My Grandma used to own a single called, "Everyone Knows That," and her copy was from around 1985. I told her about this case, and she said, "I used to own a song called, Everyone Knows That, and it had the same rythm and vocals!" I asked her if she still had it, and sadly, she sold it.

i believe that this song was recorded in a studio, but scrapped and now it is floating around the internet

carl has some explaining to do 💀

In Spain (and Italy), starting in the 80's and throughout the 90's, there was this "megamix" records releases fever ("Mas Mix Que Nunca", "Max Mix" and others). Basically, they'd record obscure pop bands imitating hits (Madonna, MJ, whatever was on at the time) and that would allow them to do some crazy mixes. I believe that sometimes they'd also do some originals in the hopes that they'd be catchy enough to stick in the charts, so, to me, this sounds like one of those. It could be a pop song created from scratch for a megamix release, or a left over.

Sounds like any other 80's song. Can't be easy to find it.

For a while this clip had a HOLD on me. I was so sure that I heard this song somewhere in my travels. But after almost losing my mind trying to place it, to feeling like I can hear “everyone knows that, Saleen car, superior motors”, and following the search manically, I’ve come to a few conclusions. This clip is amazing, I absolutely love it and really reminds me of the nostalgic songs of 90s radio. That being said I believe, for me, I’ve never heard this, and cannot find an account of anyone else for certain having to either. The Same username people always come to carls defense whenever it’s brought up that his story is a little shady, most likely the creator, or possibly lying about being from Spain for some reason. This song sounds similar to “don’t you want me baby” and that’s why I feel like it’s catchy and feels familiar. I think there’s ulterior motives but none that are harmful. I have uncovered so many memories I have forgotten while I tried to find where I knew this song from. And that is the best thing about what I’ve concluded. I removed myself from believing that I know this song but always get happy when i hear the clip. Especially in a video to boost people’s awareness.

my experience isolating songs to get just the vocals, people typically use AI websites and services so this isolated vocal may be muddy due to the ai interpreting what it is hearing from the song. the song itself sounds old so the noise it outputs will sometimes mess up the ai separating the vocals and may add parts of the music. unless it was done by humans then disregard this but please take note beware when listening to just the vocals of any song old and new.

I feel like with this, and other mysterious songs, unless they come from a source we know, the song will lose all its value once we actually know what it’s source is.

he totally was experimenting....

sounds like a Wham tribute act

this aged like

Imagine if the actual song is Right under our noses but it’s just titled something no one expected, like smth like "As if the World Was Yours"

Spain picks up signals from a lot of different regions. Especially when it's France. (Maybe the arrows just randomly took that orientation, but lol. 😉)

6:45 thats France lmao

Carl92 was being freaky that day lmao

You carry all the shame in disguise, Caught up in a world of lies, Everyone knows that, You've got, Ulterior motives (Tell me the truth), Every moves shows that, You've got, Ulterior motives (Tell me the truth).

5:26 this was so wrong lmao

And now it's been found....can't believe it was made for a porn film!

I've seen lots of videos about this song but I feel you explained it the best here. thanks!

15kHz signal means nothing here, European CRT TV's also supported NTSC 60Hz for import media purposes since the early 80s due to EU requirements. Also it doesn't mean the recording came from a CRT TV signal, it could've been a TV in the background running who knows what. Growing up we would get video tapes from family abroad in NTSC formats, we'd play them back on our tape deck in RGB (bypassing NTSC color encoding, but playing back at standard 60Hz like it should be). People saying that it's a lead don't factor in all these variables, it doesn't rule countries out.

Meanwhile, in another dimension someone uploaded a clip of never gonna give you up

CarlNaughty2 💀

It doesnt help that there's a version of the song that was created from those lost lyrics that makes trying to track down the original even more difficult. It's the first hit when you type in the song lyrics in Google.

I hate to hijack this, but question for the community: I have a similar (very frustrating) search going on in my head for a music video that was posted on KZfaq around 2010, if I remember right. I canNOT for the life of me remember any details that would help me with a simple google search - no lyrics, no band name, no song name. All I remember is that i'm pretty sure it was an independent band, and the video was about a dude who could travel through different portals. It starts out with him in some kind of space-suit-looking uniform, he's just exploring but then suddenly is chased by this woman on a horse wearing a ton of like feathers and has a bow and arrow...and she almost catches him but he ducks into this portal and he's transported to a hospital...he's looking around the hospital for someone, finds them...and then the woman that was chasing him shows up and is pointing her weapon at him...and the video ends. I thought the song and video concept was SO cool, never heard from them again but I just want to watch it one more time! Please help :) Just remembered another detail: the band had other music but NOTHING was like this one song; I wasn't a fan of any of it but this one song just sent me every time. This has been driving me nuts for years; I have no idea why my brain decided to erase all the details like that :(

I've posted thousands of commercials from the 80's and 90's over the 15 years that I've been on KZfaq. This song wasn't used in a single one of them...and people keep asking me about it. I think people need to accept that it's possible for just one person with some musical talent and production skills to just fake a recording that sounds exactly like a new wave 80's song, especially with the lo-fi nature of the sample in question. Either that or it is authentic but some sort of unreleased demo recording by some obscure band that nobody's heard of. The idea that a commercially released recording from 30 years ago could just "fall through the cracks" and not have anyone be able to identify it 35-40 years later just doesn't seem likely to me.

Imagine it was just a bunch of kids having fun making a song not knowing it would be an internet mystery

There are probably hundreds of thousands of songs like this. Not everything that's been recorded has been heard or distributed widely.

Now everyone knows that for real😂

IT WAS FOUND! It's "Ulterior Motives" by Christopher Saint Booth and it's from a 1986 porn movie.

Knowing from where it came from, he was definitely not seven

Idk why but im so interested in the mystery of this song Its so catchy too

the way I'm bursting out laughing while watching this video. Everyone was so confused😭

after all this they found it in an adult movie

Way back in the 90s, my mom had a song she had no idea of, neither the name nor the artist. She even contacted various music labels and organisations. No luck. No one seems to have heard that song or written it. Eventually, she allowed me to listen to the only copy she had. All I did was search the lyrics online, and it didn't take me long to find them. Even before Google. The song is really sad and beautiful, and I now have a digital copy of it. The one thing that surprised me was that this was from an album by a now famous trio. The song was released before they became famous, yet no one seems to have heard of it. Maybe this is the same thing. If we had more, we could probably find it easily. But we don't, so I guess we'll never know. Media from the 80s isn't all saved, so it could be lost forever. Or the best prank ever. [Edited to add] To everyone wondering about what the song was? Du gav mitt liv en mening - Herreys. Here's the english version: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLKUh7OoxNXQgmw.html

Sure he was "looking" at old recordings sure

Oh I have never been so excited to see you do a follow up on how a piece of lost media was ultimately found. 🤣

The best (and simplest) solution I’ve seen is that it was from a television ad for the women’s clothing line “Ulterior Motives.” My addition is that it may have been from a recorded program (complete with commercials) from the ‘80s on a VHS tape which the kid recorded a bit of audio from in 1999. Now, whether anyone affiliated with Ulterior Motives back then has spoken up about their adverts, I do not know. That aside, this seems to be the most logical sequence of events. A case of obscurity to the x power