Duala’s straight talk/reprimand of Adama is one of my favorite moments in the whole series. 🤗❤️

Congratulations, you've reached the point where Rosalyn earned her popular name: "Madame Airlock"

I think this was when Laura cemented her fandom nickname 'Madame Airlock' she earned when she has Leoben tossed out back in S1 :D I always loved the role reversal, she is the pragmatic leader to Adama's emotional one. It is actually very nice that she can make those cold calculated calls even if you disagree with them. It does make for a very compelling storytelling.

To quote the 12th Doctor: “until everybody does what they were always going to do- SIT DOWN AND TALK!”

The “no conflict” thing from TNG was a Roddenberry mandate that the writers HAAAAAATED.

I love that Laura is tough and Adama is a big softy.

I love Dee! She and Billy are responsible for humanity not being decimated in the mini series.

They are justified in not trusting Boomer. From their perspective she's just a cylon who shot Commander Adama.

As a fan of both franchises thinking about how frustrating some of the behavior is: TNG shows humanity through a lens that is how we *should/can* be. BSG holds up a mirror that says *this is what we are: Humanity is messy*

I feel you Paula, but I agree with Kat. I think the reason you feel so strongly about theses likeable characters making bad choices and not talking to eachother is because it's very true to how people IRL treat eachother. Especially people we love.

I wouldn't be too hard on the humans for calling the Cylons names or thinking the worst of them. They did, after all, wipe out almost the entire human race in a sneak attack and are now trying to commit genocide by finishing off the last survivors. Under the circumstances, humans are entitled to think anything they want about them. Or, for that matter, do anything they want with Cylons that fall into their grasp.

Sharon just walked in because These are the Days of Our Battlestar.

The ONE thing that won't EVER frustrate or annoy you is the MUSIC! Some of the best music for any show in my humble opinion.☺️💚🎶

Humans are stupid. This is why I love this show. No one is beyond doing something stupid. Trying to figure out who is a Cylon is a great addition to this reboot.

It’s the nature of this show that it makes you suffer through some pretty tough low points, but in return you get some of the best high points TV has to offer. But even in the tough ones, there are usually bright points. I love Dee’s conversation with Adama in this episode. I love how brave she is for speaking her mind. You could she that she was scared, but she knew it needed to be said. And credit to Adama, he listened. Maybe not right away, but I think maybe he knew what she would say and that’s why he asked her to join him. As far as “Madame Airlock” Roslin goes, I do think you’re being maybe a bit unfair. We as viewers have clearly been shown that Cylons are more than just killing machines, but Roslin really hasn’t. Every cylon she has encountered has been a bomber, saboteur, assassin or otherwise actively trying to wipe out humanity. We know that Caprica Sharon is “good,”But I don’t think you can expect her to believe that. Anyway, fantastic reaction as always. Sorry if it sounds like I’m trying to argue with you about your feelings. I’m not. Love your takes on things. Just giving a different perspective.

Politician: We should go down there now! Elosha: And some of us will die down there... Politician: Huh... so, volunteers? Don't forget, Kara and Helo didn't even know Adama had been shot- let alone by whom. Likewise, it hasn't been two months since every other human was murdered (by Sharon's people); people are absolutely still working thru their initial trauma of the Cylon Holocaust, as well as trying to figure out their new "lives".

I wonder if I'm the only one who though of the 12th doctor's 'sit down and talk' speech, when Kat was sorta mirroring it.

Always both stressful and fun to see Kate and Paula watch this show . It's a well made and the acting performances by a large cast make it very watchable . The conflicts militaristic nature and violence are there by design which can make it a hard , but unmissable watch . Roll on part two .

That scene in the hallway, the music, Adama just standing there making a decision. That gets me every time.

You will learn that _everything_ about Starbuck is... complicated. By a lot.

I love this episode because a secondary or even tertiary character basically saves humanity by showing the honesty and vulnerability none of our protagonists could manage in this moment, and that little act of courage helps the rest of them get there as well. Roslin, Apollo, and Adama are all REELING, and that’s the moment where Adama pulls out of his tailspin and sets him on a path to help the others too. Genuinely, Anastasia Dualla straight-up saves humanity through a little honesty and vulnerability. You guys compare this to TNG where everyone has that in spades, but TNG is so utopic. Those moments still happen in BSG, but they’re usually - and realistically - the result of a lot of internal struggle.

Stress doesn’t stop until the end. Lol Hold unto your hats.

Paula: ''I really think he's trying his best, he just sometimes messes up''..... yup!: humanity is stubborn, stupid, arrogant, flawed - that's the crew of BSG in a nutshell .... and this series is all the better for it!!

Just FYI, that model that Adama has, that's real. It's from our maritime museum here in Vancouver. I thought yuu might want to know this.

The writers took care of some of the information blind spot once Starbuck / Helo / Caprica Sharon arrive at the ship of the Prez. Starbuck, Helo, and Caprica Sharon don't know Galactica Boomer shot the Old Man, nor do they know of the rebellion / martial law situation. Helo doesn't know Roslin, and that she's Prez. Apollo didn't know Helo survived, nor does he fully know about Starbuck and Anders.

Characters are being stuborn, not stupid. Or stupid due to stuborness. TNG is aspirational, this is more raw, and messed up (giving the circumstances). You know, like real life.

You have to remember Adama was just shot twice by someone he thought was family. So his emotional state may not be the best.

great reaction as usual ladies. happy you are watching together as BSG is not a single player experience. watching it melt your brains is awesome.

That Dee scene is SO good. Look out for the quiet ones, they’ll read you for filth every fracking time!

I don't think I'm spoiling anything by suggesting that the Lee/Starbuck thing is a function of 2 people grappling with their favorite mistakes. It could work out down the road if they can smooth off their jagged edges, but change can create as many problems as it seeks to solve.

I love that Dee has the courage and wisdom to speak bluntly to Adama when necessary, calling him out for failing the fleet. I love that Adama listens to her and makes the decision to bring the fleet back together. It's a wonderful character dynamic between a seemingly insignificant character and the leader of the fleet showing the value and integrity in both of their hearts. Gods, I love this show!

“His little goon,” aka James Remar, (who was in The Warriors)

Laura Rosalind would space that cheery avocado behind you two . And she has my 100% support !

Another quality housecat video!

I mean, lots of the decisions are completely explainable, not smart but explainable in a way which isn't stupid. Also Adama is a commander, not an admiral, for a reason, Roslin was 47th in line for President, for a reason. These people were never ever meant to have this power level.

Communication fixes nothing when peoples goals are in opposition. Reasonable people tend to think that talking and listening will fix things but most people are not reasonable.

Chief Tyrol's first name is Galen, btw. Not really a spoiler they just haven't said it yet on screen.

omg here we goooooo!! :D

Good or bad decisions? That's what it is to be human of course. Good decisions come from experience. Experience comes from bad decisions.

lol your intros always make me wanna hug you both so hard. these episodes are brutal but also so good

17:14 Adama said why he picked him. 8:58 He's honest and he's loyal. We more of that around here.

BSG: gives us a new cylon model Gallifrey Gals literally the next episode: when is the show gonna give us a new cylon, we haven't had 1 since the mini series! 😂

And you got Simon as a Cylon. Don't rush the reveals, it's not a quota, but an emotional beating. Most of the reveals will take you to the feelings hospital. Take the time to heal between the reveals.

I hear you Paula, but on TNG most of the conflict is external, and every character is an exemplar of virtue and reason. It's artificial. BSG has conflict, both internal and external. It is far more authentic. The examples are more extreme, but then we are looking at a society that has already collapsed, and they are constantly on the brink. These people are flawed and damaged. This makes them very frustrating sometimes.

It's SO FUNNY hearing the Cylon paranoia run rampant!! You'll find more soon enough, but then it gets WORSE!!! Hahaha!!!! Zarek is a great character, and like all good villains he knows how to delegate, and sometimes even be right! I also urge that you keep open minds to how important religion is in this show, it's never just a prop.

The folks in STNG talk to each other because, for most of the series, the episodes were more of a standalone nature and the conflicts had to be wrapped up in 43 minutes (86 if it was a 2 parter)

I hope the Gals watch Babylon 5 and the Expanse someday.

Characters acting like, well, like regular humans, yes?

Absolutely A+ segue, never change.

Im comming to understand, some poeple dont want to watch people as messed up as they usually are, Just want people that are better. I get it now. Its fine.

Simon: I am forgotten.

Dee is my second fav character after Tigh

🔔 GGs @ 5:10: FYI That "joker" is one of the stars of the Eddie Murphy action movie "48 HOURS" which you guys would ❤ reacting to! (Hint Hint) 😉

Also: there are 7 Cylons left to know about, but that's knowledge that only the audience know about, Starbuck still need to relay the info about Simon.

"everyone is so frustrating" - My feelings on society as a whole.

Five Cylons have been revealed so far: Leoben (interrogated by Starbuck and airlocked by Roslin), Doral (Public Affairs guy left at Ragnar Station in the miniseries, later a suicide bomber), Simon (the doctor from The Farm), Six (Six), and Sharon/Boomer. There are seven to go. Also, negotiation and compromise only work as long as each party is able to give up something the other party wants; thus not all conflicts can be resolved by talking them through. The conflict between Adama and Roslin at the end of S1 is a case in point. Roslin demanded that Adama send Starbuck and the captured Cylon Raider back to Caprica; Adama said No, because - by all the information available to either of them - Roslin's proposal was, objectively, completely insane. What would a compromise solution even have looked like? Should Starbuck have taken the captured Raider and flown _halfway_ back to Caprica? The "diplomatic solution" would have been for Roslin to accept the already agreed-upon partition of responsibilities and take "no" for an answer.

Haven't had a Cylon reveal since Sharon?!?!? You two have already forgotten about Dr. Simon on Caprica???

The Cylons, as a group, with total agreement - including Helo's Sharon - decided to eradicate the human race, with no survivors. It's not even vaguely unreasonable that there might not be a lot of trust there or that people might not like them - hell, she didn't even tell Helo himself the truth until not many episodes ago.

Chopsticks with Cheetos...awesome!

Don't sweat the pronunciation of "Chief's" name. It's seldom used. He's just "Chief."

Wait, you think Boomer was the last cylon revealed? Was the last episode so traumatic you forgot about Simon?

Your pain feeds me. Bahahahaha

I don't think everyone is acting stupid, as such. At least not in the way they often do in American TV shows. Like Adama for example. I don't think it's quite sunk into him that he's not waging a normal war. His mind still operates on a level of "If we lose this battle, we're gonna lose some units", when it should be operating on the level of "If we don't put the civilian fleet first, none of this matters, because we're gonna go extinct." He hasn't adjusted to that way of thinking yet. Roslin is paranoid and tripping balls. In a way, she *deeply* understands the stakes, and doesn't want to take *any* risks. That means not giving Sharon the chance to betray them, even if she has been nothing but trustworthy thus far. Speaking of paranoia, here's a bit more: Apparently a certain number of characters' names were put in a hat and drawn at random. So... Happy speculatng :D

Asking the right questions about Head Six guys! Looking forward to the reaction to Part 2. Don't forget you've now met Simon guys. That brings us to five Cylons. We also have Sharon, Six, Doral and Leoben. Seven more to go.

I do always find it funny when the Cylons talk about humans as if their all inherently destructive and dangerous. As if Cylons didn't just finish killing billions and destroying multiple worlds, humans have their issues but Cylons do not have any moral highground.

Helo and Dee are the only true Lawful Good and decent people in this show so far. Probably Chief as well.

I mean the cylons wiped out the human race, they shouldn't be trusting some random Sharon at this point. Why would they?

"...Just talk to each other..." Yeah, I know how that goes, though... unfortunately, many people just never learned how to talk to each other. The higher up the "power" ladder you goes, it always seems to me the less many people are willing to talk and compromise. (he says, as he sits and looks at the world in a slow burn around him)

Starbucks new man is named Sam Anders

It is Galen Tyrol, but I think they pronounce it the same way as Sir Walter.

So!! Recipe time!! Banana split cake! Step one, get your banana bread recipe out. Either your grandma's or go Google one you like. Now, instead of making it in loaf pans, you make it in cake pans. You're gonna wanna make two, because we're gonna layer this bad boy. Adjust the recipe size as needed. (Waits staring at watch) Do you have the cakes ready? Okay, next step! Between the layers, you slather on a thick helping of banana pudding. Then, layers stacked, you frost it with cold hot fudge sauce from the ice cream section of the grocery store. Not hot; it'll slob all around, and soak into the cake, and we don't want that. Cold, it goes on like peanut butter. That's how we want it. Might want 2-3 jars (depending on cake size); they don't give you much. Now, you take spray whipped cream, and put a circle around the bottom, a circle around the boundary between the layers, and then coat the top. Now, everywhere there's whipped cream, you stick on banana slices, and halved Maraschino cherries. If it's the hot months like now, you're gonna wanna refrigerate this sucker. Ideally, serve each slice with a scoop (or two, or three) of vanilla ice cream. If you have any leftover pudding or fudge kicking around, slap that on the ice cream. Normally, I say "enjoy!" or "you're welcome!" but who am I kidding? This thing will give you a flavor-gasm that'll take you through a wormhole to another universe. I see no reason to be false modest about this one.

0:00 - 4:19 Banter 4:20 - 21:24 Reaction 21:25 - 34:20 Review and outro

Be sure to file away the observation that Starbuck had broken almost all the bones in both of her hands. HowTF does that happen?

I mean, I understand why we as fans get annoyed when somebody is rude to Sharon but… To be fair the actual characters don’t know the journey she has been on. All they know is that she lied to them and shot Adama, so I refuse to get mad at Lee and Roslin for being mean to her in this episode.

Speaking of breaks, I like the way you handled breaks between season of "Star Trek: The Next Generation", by watching an episode or two of the original series. You could do the same here, by filling in breaks with a few of the better episodes of the original 1970's Battlestar Galactica.

Actually, they already revealed a new cylon in season 2: Simon, who you met on "The Farm". So you now know five models: number 6, Leoben Conroy, Aaron Doral, Sharon Velarii, and Simon. That leaves seven models left to be revealed, including [number redacted] characters that you already know and [number redacted] characters who you haven't met yet. By the end of this season, they will reveal [number redacted] more of those seven cylons.

Moffat is the next Cylon.😂😂😂😂

Check those guns! 😊

People are screwing up left right and center in the story. But remember every single person in the show is suffering massive PTSD. The Colonies had somewhere between 20 and 40 BILLION people. Now there are less than 50,000 humans left, and they know just how badly they're dancing on the knife's edge, and they know the Cylons are still chasing them, still looking to snuff out the rest of them. Probably every last person on the ship lays awake a few hours at night shaking in terror and hoping they make it to Earth, and then the rumors that there is no Earth, compound the stress. They are going to overreact to things.

Real people regularly don't have conversations about the thing they should be talking about. And real people regularly do conflicting things that seem stupid and senseless but are very realistic. Sure, there are elements of this episode that stretch believability, but I don't think any of them are the ones you complained about. That's just human stuff.

Kat, This is bit of a shocking spoiler....... Paula is a Cylon!

The biggest difference between BSG and TNG is that Star Trek is utopian.

I've never much bought into the notion that anyone should try to ascribe motivations to impending punctuation.

It's always frustrating watching people in films and TV make dumb decisions because viewers usually have more information than the characters have, but one of the things this show does especially well is force difficult choices on both the characters and the viewers, and so the right decisions are not always apparent. There will be a lot more to discuss about that topic at some point in the future...

D’S one of my favorite characters…..damn…

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This show really doesn't have many likeable characters. I didn't like Starbuck, at first, but she grew on me and I have to say she's one of the best characters in the show (whether or not she's likeable to people). Tigh is another character I didn't like initially, but grew on me. Agathon is probably the most likeable character in the show.

I'll tell you who else is a Cylon... Kidding.. no, I won't. Half the fun is the guessing... But I will say there will be surprises and heartbreak and shifting opinions (on your part) about characters you've both met already and ones you haven't

If y'all watched Lost, those characters probably pissed you off to no end. They NEVER shared with the group, or each other most of the time. So many issues could have been solved if the different "leader" types just sat down and TALKED. Then again, I say that like Lost and BSG, in all their frustration-inducing stressy bessie glory, aren't my two favorite shows of all time. I'm a glutton for punishment and mystery boxes.

Dee

Interesting that the Admiral chose someone who wasn't capable of doing his job. Wasn't that Kara's crime against his son? She approved him for a position he wasn't competent to fulfil?

The BSG universe doesn't have therapists.

Gotta agree with Paula 100k, the most annoying writing g is when usually smart characters are written as uncommunicative morons who can’t just have an adult conversation. That’s contrived tension in my book.

Have you considered putting Babylon 5 on your watchlist?

This was the episode in which I started falling out of love with Roslyn. I really didn't agree withthe way they took her character from then on. But this was the episode in which my undying admiration for Tigh solidified. He couldn't disagree more on Adama's choice of CAG, and made no bones about it in private. In public, however, he supported that decision to the hilt. Adama, of course, chose the kid because he wasn't thinking straight. Being betrayed (as he saw it) four times in a day, by his partner, his surrogate daughter, his actual son and one of his kids - that put him at death's doorstep. It'll mess one's mind. Same with Lee. And a lot of people. RDM famously said (more or less): these people are not the Enterprise crew. They don' always do the right thing and will often frak up brilliantly.

Wasn't the woman at 4:57 and 5:02 Amanda Waller in Smallville? Or at least voiced her in *some* adaptation.

I think that Apollo and The President were justified in their behavior. Not the kiss, that was awkward. But they saw a cylon. They don’t know there are good ones, one that can override their programming.

BSG / Farscape / other shows will teach you: Never Trust a Two Parter.

Surprise people are flawed even people you like

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