Where to start before replacing body panels on your car, keep things level without a frame table.

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2 жыл бұрын

Prepping for a sheet metal replacement job on your vintage car and looking for some free advice where to start, check this out. Easy tip and technique to keep your project on the level and going straight. No need for a costly frame table just follow these steps to check your work. We are working on a 1968 Firebird for this video as an example.
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@twobeards6714 2 жыл бұрын

Happy Easter everyone. Best wishes to the viewing family.

@VinylVillageGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Happy Easter indeed

@firstgenerationgarage2803 2 жыл бұрын

Great video brother now I really feel that people will have enough information too build these cars in there garage just like us so we should start seeing more birds on the road Great job may the Lord keep on blessing you the car is going to come out great 👍

@VinylVillageGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect! God is good. I hope that to be true, seeing more birds back from a slumber and on the road would be great. I also hope to see your 68 bird on the road soon too. You are moving right along.

@burntclutches 2 жыл бұрын

Again more excellent informational and entertaining content!

@VinylVillageGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks you!

@handydand 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Simple but accurate system for ensuring the bodywork is done right; thanks for sharing!

@VinylVillageGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. This tip is brilliantly simple and can be used for many applications

@raynyhus2026 2 жыл бұрын

There more than one way to skin a cat. Very good explanation of what works for you, I like doing it that way too. Worked in a custom shop in hight school and that is how we did it on vehicles that would fit the jig the owner built. Very cool projects.

@VinylVillageGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I really enjoy building these cars and now sharing the experience is an added bonus.

@CrowsandCamaros 4 ай бұрын

I appreciate the information, most of the videos I’ve seen all talk about bracing the car before doing a full floor replacement, this information definitely helps me see things differently. My 71 Camaro floor looks similar or probably worse

@VinylVillageGarage 4 ай бұрын

Bracing isn’t a definite no for me I just have found it causes more work and cost more. The key thing is to not cut more apart than you need to. Like don’t completely cut every panel out from the bringing you intend to replace if that is your plan bracing will be needed.

@davidbisnette7673 2 жыл бұрын

The exact information I have been needing , have been contemplating how to correctly get the orientation of floor plan correctly, Thanks for these excellent videos and information!!

@VinylVillageGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it will help, plus it’s a lot cheaper than a frame table. I almost forgot to add this in the a video. I just do this stuff and forget to grab the camera sometimes. You letting me know it will help made it worth the effort to add it. Thanks for watching and I will keep them coming

@kenny3217 2 жыл бұрын

I got so lucky with my Scout, I didn't really know about any of this at the time but its a body on frame with a perfectly straight frame as a reference. I replaced almost all the floors, both front body mounts, and both rockers and somehow it still ended up all even at the end. I did take measurements to the floor for the rockers and cab mounts but I did not do any leveling so knowing what I know now I consider myself very fortunate.

@VinylVillageGarage 2 жыл бұрын

That’s great news on the scout. When I did my convertible it was a mess and I had to learn that one the hard way. I welded all the bracing in the to find out someone in the past cut 1/2” off the drivers side quarter panel at the top to compensate for the car sagging to get the door to fit and close. End result had to cut it all apart then adjust as correct a hot mess. So wish I did this to begin with.

@kenny3217 2 жыл бұрын

@@VinylVillageGarage Yikes! At least the beauty of metal work is there is almost no mistake you can't un-make with enough welding and elbow grease. My 69 Camaro is 100% rust free on the floors and rockers but if I ever get another project I will definitely keep these tips in mind, thanks!

@s10issues84 5 ай бұрын

The all thread is a great tip! I will soon be doing a 4 Link and planned to use a full day and laser level to make sure I am getting everything leveled to start with. I have a bunch of old vinyl tiles I had planned to use to shim my jack stands to get them to sit level. Thank you

@VinylVillageGarage 5 ай бұрын

Heck yeah! Very cool making it happen and getting good results sounds like a good plan.

@JJ-dg1dk 4 ай бұрын

Appreciate your help and expertise 👍

@VinylVillageGarage 4 ай бұрын

Anytime. Happy to share

@danorourke5184 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative, wonder how many dyi guys even thick of this before they start cutting? Thanks for sharing!

@VinylVillageGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome, I am sure it’s not a new technique but felt it worthy to share how I have always done it.

@BiggusDickus2 2 жыл бұрын

Diyer dipshits can't even change their own oil.

@ferdinandcuevas8457 2 жыл бұрын

I have used a cheap Lazer level to get my car set up for doing the floor pan and it worked out great . I like Your tip's with the all thread . Good content Thank You. 🇺🇲🇵🇷🦊👍

@VinylVillageGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea! Thanks for sharing. I actually have one of those too I will be using it next time.

@perrywe1 Жыл бұрын

very nice explanation and great and cost effective way of going about building these cars. Thanks Jon.

@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын

I am all about diy and staying on a tight budget.

@andersonrowland 10 ай бұрын

Great tips, thanks!

@VinylVillageGarage 10 ай бұрын

Very Welcome

@way469 9 ай бұрын

I have a 68 Camaro that needs a floor, trunk & frame rails. I have all three now thanks to FB groups & a local swap meet. I had it on a lift but I think I will roll it to solid place close to my welder.

@VinylVillageGarage 9 ай бұрын

A lift is nice, beats rolling around on the floor sure but I feel it’s better to have the car set on a firm surface and keep it level during the process.

@way469 9 ай бұрын

@@VinylVillageGarage I took it off the lift two hours ago, maybe while you were typing this. LOL! I rolled it close to the 220 plug for my mig welder & plamsa cutter. I'm putting it on solid blocks until the floor is in. I'm going to replace the toe boards & front mounts while it's all solid & measured.

@VinylVillageGarage 9 ай бұрын

@@way469 that is how I would do it as well, keep up the good work

@woodrowdelozier1 Жыл бұрын

I just ordered a navy blue shirt and a coffee mug. I love your channel thank you

@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын

You are awesome! Thanks!

@damianporter7114 5 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot man!

@VinylVillageGarage 5 ай бұрын

No problem! Happy to help.

@bradsrestorations1085 Жыл бұрын

Excellent information. This was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!

@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын

Awesome! This way has worked for several cars for me and it’s low cost too

@SkaterStimm 5 ай бұрын

I used a laser (not a laser level) to find two points on my car and horizontally and ran a laser between them, then I found the center, and put a cross going through it. Then I could measure from those points to see how high or low my panels were. Works well without needing reference to the ground, also I don't have to put the car on jack stands. (doesn't work for everything).

@VinylVillageGarage 5 ай бұрын

Cool idea thanks for sharing. I see that could be helpful

@dpin6072 2 жыл бұрын

Great series. Taking notes as about to replace the floors on my 69 Camaro. What is your timeframe for completing this project? So far you are making great progress.

@VinylVillageGarage 2 жыл бұрын

My goal is two years. I still have a family that is priority and normal Life responsibilities. Playing cars is just free time fun for me. So far so good. Does your car need rocker panel repair

@tracyrenko4171 Жыл бұрын

The ceiling of you garage should be level so you can get an accurate measurement from there also

@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын

Interesting idea.

@R0yL33 2 жыл бұрын

I've never attempted anything this ambitious so take with a grain of salt. When you move the car to say gain access to weld the floor, when setting it back down on garage floor, car might be in different spot so that 34.25" number might change, no?

@VinylVillageGarage 2 жыл бұрын

Correct that number might change, just keep in mind all you have to do is just reset the body back to level. Then say it now reads 34” on the left it should then also read 34” on the right. If so you can proceed with removing the next panel and know it should be installed at the same height as what you just measured

@rickblood8653 7 ай бұрын

Where did you get that threaded sleeve for the threaded rod that you are using for checking the height?

@VinylVillageGarage 7 ай бұрын

It’s a rivnut. 3/8”16 thread. I found it in my toolbox junk drawer it seems to work good.

@GreaseMonkey68 5 ай бұрын

My project is actually a 68 Camaro which will be getting a new firewall, lower cowl, outer rockers, full floor and trunk, rear quarters and a roof skin. What advice could you give as to where to start for instance should I start at the front with the firewall and work towards the rear? The rear frame rails are going to be scrapped as well. I was thinking firewall, cowl, rockers and on to the floors quarters then finish with the roof, please let me know what you think. Thanks in advance

@VinylVillageGarage 5 ай бұрын

I consider the rocker panels as my start point to build and measure from. Get those both in good conditions and parallel to each other then tackle main floor pan and toe boards. Work your way back trunk floor wheel wells and frame rails. Once happy with those 1/4 panel and tail panel repairs.

@GreaseMonkey68 5 ай бұрын

@@VinylVillageGarage awesome thanks for the advice. Everything is on hand, now if I can just get some warm weather 👍

@KennyJoe01 Жыл бұрын

Hi Jon, do you take on work for customers or do you just work on your own projects?

@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын

Both, sort of, mostly do my own cars but i have helped a few people. I currently have a decent waiting list, I have been searching for some property with a facility to support taking on more projects. Just have not found it yet. Hopeful it will happen and then I see myself doing a lot more.

@KennyJoe01 Жыл бұрын

I have no doubt you will be real successful when you get your shop going. You would also be real successful if you started a two or three week crash course training program to teach guys the basics. I know I would be the first to sign up.

@VinylVillageGarage Жыл бұрын

@@KennyJoe01 that is a great idea. I do enjoy teaching, might be a good way to find good help too. Thanks for the idea