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do u think u can test Motul and if u can try and get your hands on Biltema its a swedish brand so it might be hard but still i would really like to see if there is a major diffrence and i mean i could be what ever chainlube , motoroil and so on

lucas link came up as crc

Did I miss something about bike chains and project farm? Or has the bike chain itself not been tested. Asking this because of e-bike mid drive with high torque output. How long will it last, some rolling resistance and how much abuse does it tolerate 😇

lol. I do get some interesting comments.

probably a smile, must be big sales.

@@ProjectFarm Speaking of which, I'd like to humbly put forth Anal Lube as a test suggestion. Great videos by the way

Just look at mr.crabs from spongebob

@@atlas42185 LMAO

Thank you for the video idea!

Valvoline White synthetic or dry chain lube from other manufacturesrs

Exactly, I was thinking the same thing.

Totally agree with motorcycle-targeted products. Add WD40 and 90w gear oil to the mix.

I agree, we sold PJ1 lube at the motorcycle shop I worked at. No complaints, everybody loved it.

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

Most motorcycle companies recommend gear oil. o

@@bilboswaggens2975While gear oil is great, i use it on my motorcycle to. It's worth noting the reason why the motorcycle companies recommend gear oil. They obviously do not have interest in recommending specific brands here, rather something generic...and that's also why gear oil is ideal. With that said gear oil is very good, it's just that the application methed is more cumbersome that a spray. I with we could have gear oil on spray can, that would make it soooo much easier.

Thank you!

Mustie1, Thank you very much! I really like the chainsaw bar and chain oils video idea. By the way, you've got a great KZfaq Channel!

I was thinking the same thing test bar and chain oils.

AH! It looks like Mustie1 beat me to it. You, Mustie and AVE should get together and do a collaboration video. 3 times good and more better!

Mustie I think we have the same youtube recommended list. I always end up commenting on a video around the same time you're around. haha

Oh hey mustie, I watch your channel

Thank you very much!

Great video idea! Thank you

I would be interested in this as well. A lot of misinformation on the internet about gun lube. They should handle high amounts of heat, resist carbon build up, and not dry out over a period of time. Low viscosity, drying up oil is primarily used, though I think a grease would probably work better.

I'd love to see gun solvents as well!!!

what is the stuff called????

maybe do one on copper solvents and black powder solvents too

lol. Thank you

Ah man, I was gonna say that!

@@johnsobery rest in potatoes

@* there’s a hair on you’re screen * - a new competitor has stepped into the ring...

That's so cheesy.

Thanks so much!

Thank you! I'll continue to decline all offers.

idc if you get sponsored. People should be paid for their work, especially great work like yours. Just keep an honest opinion! :) Maybe get sponsored by someone that's irrelevant to your industry like a book company, whole foods, or etc. lol.

@@ProjectFarm It'd be fine if you had commercials or something, just not from a company that's tied to products you test. Something like squarespace would be fine whereas lucas oil or something would not be fine. You deserve more than you're making from these videos, I'm sure of it. Your content is usually beyond reproach, and when there's an issue you listen and solve it with a follow up without any grumbling because it seems like you want to know what product is best as much as we do!

Thank you!

Thank you!

lol

To show you the power of flex tape I saw this boat in half! Holy shit that's a lotta damage!

hahahaha

for those who don't know its a Fortnite reference.

I knew it

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Thanks!

Great point! Thank you!

I go through about 3to 4 chains a year between my dirtbike and street bike must not be a normal person

@@hardup9809 Wtf! You murdering your bike lol

@@2450logan when I go to my local bike shop they like to put little customer notes at the bottom for me as a joke the last one read " customer is aware that wheelies may affect chain life"

@@hardup9809 Do they get too loose or do they explode on you? I've had a fairly new bike (MTB) chain explode on me.

Great suggestion! Thank you.

Great suggestion! Thank you.

Thank you!

Great point!

I am a Dupont fan for a number of reasons. I'm a motorcyclist, as in I ride all year long, rain, winter, on and off road. Tens of thousands of miles a year. Chain maintenance is a chore, but necessary for safety, performance and economy. Sadly I'm out there cleaning and lubricating my chains every weekend, but it's gotta be done! The real secret to making chains last in my experience is the lube, lubing regularly but most important is cleaning the chain regularly. I get about 75,000-100,000 miles out of my chain and sprockets and have had good success with Dupont. It goes on, dries and doesn't fling off so it's not slinging lubricant onto your swingarm and tire. It helps keep dirt from sticking to the chain and accelerating wear. But Dupont shines in another area, they make another product called Motorcycle Degreaser that's formulated for safely removing their own brand of chain lubricants. That makes cleaning a whole lot more efficient and easier. Another factor for me is a personal event I had with the company, when they debuted the product I remember reading something about chemicals you shouldn't use to clean the chain with afterwards. But they weren't clear on what to use instead. I searched their website, couldn't find anything to satisfy me. I hit their contact link expecting some computer generated reply stating, "Thank you for choosing Dupont, please visit out website at....". Ya know, companies that size, even if you could get a human, would they ever find you someone who could give you an answer? But I got a real person send me an email back minutes later, not just with information but tons of pertinent information. Guy really knew his stuff. This was about a year before they came out with their Motorcycle Degreaser product too. And when that was about to come to market, I got a personal email from the same guy at Dupont letting me know it was to be available and to check it out. Both events really impressed me, here I am, just some lone dude with nothing more than $10 invested in their product. Getting that much personal attention to make sure I was getting my money's worth, that I was satisfied with the product and had the information I needed. Was a good lesson for all businesses to strive for, do the extra, make a good product and you get a customer for life. They got me!

I agree. I've been using that Dupont chain saver teflon wax on my motorcycle chain for a few years now. So far it's been a great product.

Yes, any chain-driven machine can use this product, including small engine equipment. Tillers, aerators, walk-behind concrete saws and more.

Agreed on dupont. It's well revered in most motorcycle message boards, and by another independent reviewer, webbikeworld. The fact that it starts dry and ends dry is what keeps it on the rollers, rings and between the plates.

Thank you! Wish I could publish 2 per week more often.

Thanks, will do!

Thank you!

Thank you!

You are welcome!

Thanks!

Thank you!

I disagree, in some applications no lube is better then lube. See my other comment.

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the constructive feedback.

I hated cleaning chains all the time on my dirt bikes and then the guy at my local motorcycle shop told me about DuPont. I have o-ring and non o-ring chains and this stuff works great on both types. I use to hate non o-ring chains but that guy told me to soak them in kerosene and they lube them up really good with the DuPont. So far the non o-ring chains are lasting a really long time. Not as long as o-ring chains but I like how they are lighter and make the throttle feel snappier.

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@@MtnPeakEnduro Take a lesson from bulldozers; Hardened steel parts wearing on hardened steel parts in dirt. Longest life is NON lubed. In fact it is essential.

@@RRaucina you have a good point there

I LOVE THE STUFF

Great point. I'll be providing more opinions on products in the future.

Love your videos by the way. Every time I receive an alert from your channel, I stop doing what I am doing and religiously watch your video

Mike Gauthier The winner often depends on which aspect being tested is most important to you.

Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

Great recommendation!

This would be neat to see, but it might be slightly disappointing since chains don't stretch. It would essentially be a wear test, since chain "stretch" is just wear at all the points where a link interfaces with the next.

@@kNasty_ So they do stretch, after all?

@@kNasty_ links certainly do stretch.

@@eformance It usually just appears as if the chains stretch. The length of the chain gets longer, but that is usually due to wear at each pin in each link. If you have a thousandth of an inch wear at each pin, and you have 100 pins, then the length of the chain gets longer by 100 thousandths of an inch, or 0.1 inches, but each link did not get stretched any. There is the condition when extreme torque is applied, such as when someone does wheelies, and they over stress a chain, and each link gets pulled hard enough to stretch them. If and when that happens it ruins a chain in seconds.

PAG air conditioning compressor oil seems to stick a lot to metal surfaces btw, and the double end capped variant apparently isn't hygroscopic at all. Another good dry and relatively inexpensive chain lube, try it if you can.

Thank you for the video idea!

Thank you for the video idea!

Thanks!

Thanks for the tip!

Have used it for tons of things, but never thought of it as a mechanical lubricant. Time for project farm to fire up the lubricity tester I think

Over mineral oil?

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Yard Sale Dale - I have lots of 'proper holsters' and don't care for them. That doesn't stop me from buying them and then adding to the drawer. I prefer clip styles and don't intend to get sidetracked on this topic. I've been carrying guns everyday since the mid 80's. I know what I'm doing. Re-read my post, please. "Put it on, wipe it off" No, it doesn't run all down and off the gun. But since it's a fully saturated hydrocarbon, it's EXTREMELY resistant to oxidation, since all the oxygen binding points are already occupied. That's why it's so shelf stable. The mags get a light coat too and they run like butter. Buttahh... silky smooth. I've paid for Eezox (next best), and tried Mobil 1, CLP, RemOil, you name it...compared to EVCO they are distant seconds. It works so well, that now any metal that is rust prone, gets a swipe. My sword collection is almost maintenance free now (thank goodness)...I use in to make Bulletproof Coffee since it's a medium chain triglyceride and much more closely matches human biological needs than the long chain fats in grains and other sources. As a massage oil, it's ideal. Hard at room temp, melts at body temp, and dries soft and non-messy. Get it on something, no problemo...it's clear and washes out without messing stuff up. Stays slick while you work it, then dries...did I say ideal. The list goes on. Love melted wax scents...except the wax gets burnt over time. NP...just use coconut oil in a jelly jar on a cup warmer and put whatever essential oil you like and enjoy cheap fragrance all day...lasts years not weeks. So, yeah...it works. And after a few decades of feeling automatics on my skin, I'm used to it and find it 'reassuring'. The guns run great now.

Thank you!

Thanks for the feedback.

Thank you!

Thanks for the video idea!

Daniel Asher he will have to start a naughty channel that you don’t watch with your kids lol

Go to youtube kids app. They probably have it there. There's a sespool of despots there.

And to try this as engine oil

@@ProjectFarm I think you'd have a lot of fun doing this one (especially after youre tests are done😉) I want to see what contraption you come up with for the tests. Use a sawsall with a dildoe on it going into a fleshlight and see how long they last before losing lubricity and tearing up the products... just a thought.... hehe I can feel the cringe factor for the bros on this one...lol

Thank you!

Thanks for the recommendation.

Honda recommends 80-90w gear oil for its motorcycles and it has performed well compared to alternatives in other tests

Royal Purple gear oil is really good, but at a cost! I consider using it for my motorcycle chain, but satisfied with DuPont Chain Saver. I have RP gear oil in rear diff of my motorhome and Duramax truck, and experienced noticeable improvement on both. I've heard its excellent on motorcycle chains too (but imagine it attracts dirt).

I just put super tech gear oil in my $60,000 Dodge Ram hopefully it's as good as the motor oil is

Amsoil will win that one too.

Great video idea!

Project Farm I 2nd that!

Yea I second that.

Yep, that was my first thought when I saw the title

I will add a vote to this one as well. I have used the Husqvarna Bar and Chain oil and found it to bee thick as honey... pun intended.

You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

Thank you for the feedback

Thanks for the recommendation.

What chain lube are you using? Where do you get it?

@@handheldgarage3297 he uses honda pro moly. I'd check for it online.

Thanks for the recommendation.

It would be an interesting concept but you would have to go with the theory that you would have to run the same fuel to air mixture and then depending where the overall person is using the product their results would vary. I add seafoam and Lucas Fuel Treatment to my fuel in addition to running Amsoil Sabre. I use it in a single cylinder piston ultralight aircraft engine and my running temperatures for the past 2 years are minimal. Also carbon buildup comparably running Avgas has been significantly less which I would expect from adding basically any additive.

He should try some of the “off brand” bulk oils that lawn mower dealers sell by the gallon. That’s what I was using, but have now switched to Quicksilver from Walmart, which is even cheaper. I can get a used motor for my weed whacker for $40 on EBay, so I want the cheapest oil that will get me through a season.

Klotz,castor 927, amsoil dominator, and cheap gas station oil would be a good comparison in my mind

zepfan96 x2 on the amsoil. thats all i use in my 2 strokes. amsoil saber 100:1

Thank you! It seems to do a great job

Thank you!

Warm lube always helps 😂😂

Thank you for the video idea!

Yes, but be aware that whatever chain cleaner you use can’t harm the o-rings or x-rings. Which is better o-rings or x-rings? Lol

Oh... and I've read the Hazardous Materials/Safety Data Sheets, and it is safe to use. No eye protection or mask required, and... if a human or animal drinks some by accident ... no worries. It is safe to ingest (although the imbiber would most likely be spending some time in the washroom!)

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for watching and subscribing.

Thanks for the recommendation.

I use Tuf Glide nothing works better for the dusty, abrasive environment I work in.

That's exactly what I thought when watching this. None of the products tested would hold up on a motorcycle. I use BelRay chain lube that looks similar to white lithium grease.

Both of the above for push bikes. Myself use wax lubricants for motorbike chain, no rust and seals the O, X, W rings in the chain, as that is all it is the most important thing to stop the lube in the bearings getting out. Chainsaws are different again and is more of a consumable.

Nice! You are welcome!

Thank you

Same here

lol

Great recommendation!

Sorry I missed that one.

Thank you

Thank you. I did not know that.

Chains don't have o-rings.

@@lazurm Motorcycle chains do.

Thank you, I obviously didn't know that.

RESPECT THE WHITE LITHIUM BUBBA

Thanks for the recommendation.

Most O-ring chains come new covered in lithium grease. I like the wax ones for bike chains though.

I find the lithium grease to be a major dirt magnet, I prefer the dry wax lubes.

Thanks for the feedback.

Thank you! Thanks for the video idea.

Thanks for the video idea!

lol

You are welcome!

Thanks for the video idea!

or lard!

@@jusb1066 Yeeeaaa good idea as well.

Organic motor lubricant showdown

@@jusb1066 i imagine lard would work better, butter has some water content in it

Great test recommendation. Thank you

I use Maxima products on my foam air filter. Just a thought.

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Thanks for the feedback.

Great video idea!

Great video idea!

It would be interesting to see if it can hold up at those high temps.

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the feedback.

lol

rofl

I imagine 'Jason', muahahaha!

Nice! Thank you

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Thanks for the feedback.

Thanks for the recommendation.

You are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.

Thank you

lol. Thank you

@@ProjectFarm LOL... I better search flex seal project farm next

Thank you for the video idea!

@@ProjectFarm To second this guy, I use them for my (high end) MTB's and especially the Finish Line Red for dry conditions is based on teflon/wax and seems to stick great while avoiding dirt. I don't know if you would consider that "cheating" compared to oils, but it's nice. It's definitely WAY more expensive than these products though and probably has a gigantic markup because it's for the bike world....

Thanks for the video idea.

Thanks!