Everytime you have video uploaded, i hit like instantly,❤

Thank you for addressing us heavy runners!

This video is really helpful. Love your videos and channel 💥

Super practical and helpful! Thanks to your videos like this, we as a consumer can make informed decision to buy the most suitable shoes and save money for those shoes that are not right for us. Thank you, Chris! Great job!

I tried the Adidas sl 2 in the shop today.. Feels amazing.. ❤

Excellent vidéo. Thank you

I listened to you and bought the Supernova Rise, I'm starting to try them!

Thanks for the video. As a big runner (6'2" 250 pounds) I've struggled to find good daily trainers. If a foam is too compliant it typically doesn't give me the resilient bounce back that I need, causing me to feel like I'm running in sand (I'm looking at you Mizuno Neo Vista). If it's not compliant enough, then I'm putting 250 lbs of pressure into my joints. I don't have the same problem with race day shoes because of the carbon plates. The best daily trainer that I've found is the Mount to Coast R1. It is a relatively light shoe with the perfect amount of compliance in the midsole to handle my weight. It's also incredibly stable and allows me to run in my most natural form without having to alter my gait. It's extremely consistent in the way it feels. My first mile feels like my 10th mile which is rare for a running shoe in my experience. I can't sing this shoes praises enough!

Sipping my chai and enjoying a daily trainer master class. I don't know if you have access to Topo Athletic; but, the Specter 2 is coming out late summer and is the daily trainer I've been waiting for since TRE: lightweight, non-plated trainer/racer. BTW, Tim Gross' review of you was quite complimentary. The word "detail" stood out. That's an understatement.

I'm only 3:15 in but I'm liking the video because you listed the shoes you would be discussing right away and you mentioned shoes you left out and why. I've been using Pegasus for my daily wear and jogs since the 35s but my 40s were getting worn down just from wearing them for everything (they're very comfortable) and I recently got the Structure 25s, have you ever tried them? I'm just getting back into running after a few years off and they've gotten the job done for my runs so far up to 6 miles. I will say for any Nike shoes I tend to look for outlet deals and often spend $60-80 rather than the MSRP $120-160. In general I tend to avoid the latest models of any shoe in favor of a discounted shoe from the prior year, I've got a pair of Saucony Triumph 21s arriving today in fact.

I was looking for a trainer that I could use for a lot of things, mainly running and some different sports that I do in PE, but also for the gym and just to use casually if I want something comfortable. I’m currently leaning towards the Pegasus 41, but I want to make sure I buy the right thing. Thanks for the excellent video!!

Excited for Superblast 2 review!

For me, the ride 17 is great. Its firmer but has a balanced midsole and a traditional feel. I value a normal feeling ride over anything else. The pegasus and new balance 880 are also up my alley

You channel is underrated. You will have lots of subscribers soon. I would like to add I think NB 1080 V13 is a great option for walking/running for those lighter runners because the foam is squishier than Gel-Nimbus. For me a medium size runner I like both of them. 1080 V13 for pampering my feet on level surfaces (indoor walking), Gel-Nimbus for more stability.

My 1st propper running shoe was the pegasus 40. Then I got the boston 12, and deviate nitro 2 and couldnt stand the peg40 anymore. I now daily/ speed work the DN2 and long run/speed work my boston 12. Both shoes are quite similar and can do everything just that the boston 12’s are more comfortable for long runs.

Added the Velocity Nitro 3 to my rotation today after your input. Did a 10x2 min session from 10k down to 5k pace. They felt surprisingly good for that. Think I will be able to use them for a bit of everything. Perhaps not the long or slower runs. Have the Magnify Nitro 2 for longer runs today, but soon time to replace. Supernova Prima is a bit tempting, or Rise. Perhaps next month or so.

Great guide for not only new runners. Much appreciated. Saw Puma VN3 for 55€ today. Insane value for that kid of money.

i'm a heavier runner and I know that I will get stoned for saying this but the first shoe I bought purely for running is the asics superblast and I love it.

Im surprised that im in the current state of this video and you kinda covered it all! I have all the plated running shoe but what is my daily trainer for my daily miles? This is the question I had over myself for past couple of weeks and been keep trying multiple daily trainer for easy relaxed miles in store. So this is the criteria I set out for myself when trying in store. 1. Upper : must be plush, comfy, some padding, but still breathable 2.Shape of the shoe : Not Narrow or close to narrow, does not feels too snug, but still have a good lockdown, not swimming in shoe. Next, the shape is not too rockered or not rockered at all. 3.Outsole : Rubber that can last, grippy and dont feel the ground so much 3. Midsole : Soft, plush on first step in, but not bottom out until it feels nothing in it for longer runs.None race foam but still has some very mild bounce. Not too high stack but still have some stack, for me since im not a shoe guy, I use my feelings for this, if the shoe steps in feels high then its high haha, 😅, probably not over 40 idk, but something i "feel" normal. So i set out on an adventure to multiple running store in order to find my perfect daily relaxed miles trainer. I try mostly all the recommendations in this video and this is my summary 1.SNR : The upper not works for me, the midsole does, but it feels too low for my likings. 2. SL2 : A bit narrow to make it my daily trainer, but will definitely buy to rotate with my current B12. 3.VN3: Im not sure whats but this shoe feels eerily similar to SL2😅, I might have hard time of choosing this vs SL2 in future. 4.Novablast 4 : Definitely too high stacked So there are all four that is in this video BUT I know you might not love this brand, NOT REBEL V4 BUT : 5.1080V13: I was surprised that I gave this brand a try since its not on my radar at all neither it is widely available here, so I went to a store and they say this brand is on sale so i try it nonetheless, not that because of the sale part (definitely a plus point tho😅 tbh) but all those four criteria I mentioned are all in the green four me. Haven't pull the trigger yet but really tempting to since it has plush upper, not too snug, soft but not bottom out and not too high stacked midsole, non rockered, good amount of rubber (this im not sure yet but looks thick enough). So yeah, surprise it worked for me, im 54 to 55kg, definitely on the lighter side, maybe because of that? Idk, I have yet to see other reviews (read a few here and there) about this shoe although I bet theres plenty out there. Thats that!! Cheers😅

Novablast 4 is currently my preferred daily. If I were to pick a second daily it would be a toss up between the Supernova Rise or SL2. The Puma was too firm for me and the ride of the Supernova Rise was better. The Pegasus 41 air unit in the forefoot was intrusive for me when I tried it in store treadmill. New ReactX foam feels like my Peg40 with 200k on it,

thank you

Great breakdown! I noticed you don’t cover a lot of New Balance shoes. Are they not available in your area or are you opposed to them?

I love ur reviews. U r so clear what u want to convey in a simple language buddy. Need a suggestion. I already have supernova rise, vomero 17, and asics cumulus 25. Supernova rise are my favourite as i ca use them for anything. Would u suggest to buy Pegasus 41 if i already have vomero 17?

Nice video

Thanks for pointing out about the SL2 ,what a coincidence that I am experiencing is described at 8.08. It’s pointed out that the Pegasus 41 and the ASICS NB4 as good options. I am more mid to forefoot type of runner which of these would these be better suited for that style ?

Thanks for this great comparison video! Think I’m getting both the SL2 and the velocity nitro 3. What’s your dislike on the Rebel V4 about though ? The Rebel V2 was the shoe that made me fall in love with running, did not get along at all with the V3 and had deep reservations about the V4. The Fresh foam line up though does seem intriguing

If you are a heavy runner this might interest you. I am a heavy runner and I think firmer midsoles and not so high stack midsoles are better to me than the usual shop recomendations "max cushion to heavy runners" trend. I pronate mildly and a mildly firm foam gives me the stability I need, and I hate the so called stability shoes pressing under my foot sole arc. It aches and cramps midrun ruining mynrun. I like to think I have more impact energy (kinetic energy) and as such I need a "spring coil" that does not bottom down with my stride. If it does, doesn't matter all the cushion I had before, since I'll be stacking impact towards injury. Checking this equation can be useful: Ek = 1/2*(mv^2) where Ek = kinetic energy (impact energy) m = mass v = velociti of the object at impact So, even if more weight means more impact, it grows linearly, while more speed means way much more quadratic impact. This means to me: carefull with faster than threshold runs because they will be much more taxing to my joints. Be carefull to every stride goes as a flow and not as stomping forward. And of course, beyond running shoes and speeds you train, there are some other essential variables to handle: - Form: knowing not to stomp run is vital. - Strengh training: the best running shoe can't replace weak muscles, mainly calves, quads (excentrically) and medium glute. Those muscles play an important role cushioning impact when strong and active midrunning. Yeah many runners hate strength training, but they are essential. - Surface you run: concrete and road are harsh to joints; grass and dirt road are good alternatives, same as a good treadmill I took the time to write this because as a heavy runner you simply can't adress your running only looking at a good running shoe. It is super important, but it is one among many factors. So, if you are a heavy run begginer, go easy and don't worry about pace and being fast soon. Worry about being a well rounded runner first, cover all the bases, it will help you a lot in the long run (pun intended) and make your running journey more enjoyable.

Chris! Thank you for the interesting review of trainers. While I pretty much run everyday in low stack racing shoes like the Asics RP3 and sortie magic rp6, woukd do you think about the Adidas Adios 8?

I like the Brooks Glycerin a little more than the Ghost Max and the Ghost. My two main daily trainers are the Glycerin and the Novablast. I have tried a few other shoes, but these two seem to be the best trainers for me.

Great content !! I am looking for a daily trainer that I could use for gym /tredmill /walking / dance fitness and moderate strength training , basically a do it all shoe . I’m currently leaning towards Nike Pegasus 41 and metcons , but I’m not very sure . Can you recommend and share some details on it .

Great video! I happen to pronate quite significantly. Would you have a recommendation outside of those 2 mentioned? I still like the sort of shoes you like, lower-to-ground, nimble(r). But all the stability options I see from the brands look like overbuilt tractors :/ How would, for example, Mach 6 fare? Anyway, I might have to bite the bullet.

Excellent video, thanks. I am struggling to find a suitable daily trainer here in the UK. I need something with a wide toe box but not super wide in the rear or mid foot. I also do better with a lower drop. So I gravitate to shoes like the Altra Fwd Experience and Topo Phantom 3. The problem is that I supinate and wear through the outer heel rubber in 100 miles in these less durable shoes. The other options are wide(2E) fitting shoes from the likes of Adidas or NB which I find much more durable but which usually have a 10mm drop. I am tempted to order the Adidas Supernova Rise in a wide fit and see if I find the bigger drop a problem, although perhaps the more stable SN Solution would be more appropriate? Also thinking about the NB Rebel, which despite its faults does have a lower drop and a comically wide fit by all accounts!

Good vid! I'm curious, what other daily trainers are you waiting for? I think I may have hit the end of the road with my T20s at 763k. Tried to do an easy run Monday, but had to cut it short when I realised my right foot was feeling too "heavy" and the strain in my Achilles region was completely unprecedented, a combo that made for some painful running. Did some intervals yesterday with my AP3s and didn't have those issues so I'm thinking the midsole in the T20s has run its course (and I'm afraid of repeating the experience to verify!). Will be getting myself a pair of Adidas Supernova Rise before week's end. After a few runs with it I'll decide what other pair to buy to rotate with.

Thanks for your insightful thoughts. I'm compiling a short list of daily trainers since I'll need to replace several pairs in a few months. I want to mention that you (and perhaps Tim Grose) are the only reviewers who had the honesty to criticize the Rebel V4. It looked promising on paper, but when I saw the specs, the upper, and the crazy width, I immediately felt that New Balance had taken a wrong turn for this line. In my opinion, it's no longer an uptempo/speed shoe. I'm also interested in Puma's daily trainers, though I wish the drop was in the 6-8mm range rather than 10mm. Regarding the Brooks Ghost Max, I've heard the actual drop is closer to 10mm instead of the 6mm claimed by the brand. How does it feel? I'm a mid/forefoot striker and I tend to shortlist shoes that don't overly penalize this type of gait. Cheers

For some reason I’ve been having outside foot pain while wearing the Boston 12. Would the SL2 also be giving me the same feel or should I just stay away from the adidas line. Hoka’s work perfectly for me having the skyward x and Mach 6 and I love them both.

I currently run in the Puma Deviate Nitro 2 as my only shoe. I'm looking to add a 2nd trainer that is preferably non-plated. Seems like the VN3 should be a no brainier as I really like my DV8N2, but I also want to try a shoe with a little more stack/cushion. Looking to try out the SL2 but I also have the option for a Novablast 4 and or a Hoka Mach 5 at a discount.

Could you please do a video about which super trainer (for speed and mixed runs) are right for you? Basically a comparison between DN3, Speed 4, Superblast, Skyward x etc.

Thank you as always for your videos. I am considering buying men's Brooks Ghost Max. I have never tried this brand but a few reviewers mentioned the very high rate of wear on the outsoles of these shoes as well as permanent discolouration of the upper. A few noted that the outsole began to tear and wear through within just a week or two. How many miles have you walked/run on these and what has been your experience of wear and tear in this pair please? Many thanks

I tried many brands and one dayI came across the Nike Pegasus, since then they´re my favourite shoes, to me there´s nothing better.

Totally agree with you re: NB. Hard no for me too

What are your alternatives for the New Balance Rebel v4, because I really like it. Already got two from this video, the Supernova Rise and the Velocity Nitro 3. Bought the Puma mainly for running when it’s wet outside because of the Puma Grip outsole.

Novablast 4 ist fantastic, but mind that it need a bit of a break in phase

I go by weight... If the shoe is around the 235gr and comfortable it's all I need. I do slow long 10 mile to VO2 max 5k in the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V1 or Alphafly V1 or V2 or Adidas adios Pro 3... The only shoes I can only run Threshold or faster are the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro V2 and to some extent Asics metaspeed Sky Plus. Shoes heavier than 250gr just killy TL band. I am over 60 so I do what works.. I also do 80/20 but 80 is the Tempo or faster.. Life to short to run slow 😂.

i think the best asics daily trainer is the cumulus... :)

SNR feels really stable for me.

Thank you for the factual and understandable content! I have another question: I am a heavier runner with 88 kg / 195 lbs, have mild/strong pronation, and i am training for an Ironman. For this, I do fast intervals once a week, a tempo run once a week, two 15-20 km "zone 2" runs, and one long run (20-30 km). Currently, I use the On Cloudmonster 2 for easy runs and long runs, the Endorphin Speed 4 for tempo runs, and the Vaporfly 3 for fast intervals. However, with this rotation, I can never run "pain-free." What could I optimize here?

When you mentioned overpronation, does that also include outward pronation (supination)? because I was considering buying adizeros

Personally I have been running since a few years, owning way too many shoes and my opinion has not changed. For road running, I don't like shoes with under 27mm of stack in the forefoot. So mach 5, pegasus 40 and deviate nitro 2 are out. Speed 2 and Takumi Sen makes the cut but I usually prefer above 30mm such as Nike Tempo Next and Boston 12. 140lbs, stride runner.

Tracksmith Eliot is another daily trainer worth considering. It's a little bit hard to justify on price but is extremely good and extremely durable. If I were to design a version 2, I would remove the forefoot bootie extension to the gusseted tongue. It's totally superflous and hot for summer. I think it's hard to justify the price against the Puma Velocity 3 and Adidas SL 2 in 2024 -- which I think are the most direct comps. I'm a "heavier" runner with extremely muscular legs. (I was a cat2 cyclist in college.) I'm fit but my body is just big. I was directed to max build and max stability when I took up running out of Peace Corps and this was really wrong for me. What I really needed was someone to tell me about running technique -- which was (wait for it) Chris McDougall in "Born to Run" and similar in size. I didn't go "minimal" but did rewire my running. 1. Large size shoes in max cushion and/or stability tend to be so heavy that it affects runnability. 2. When shoes are scaled to large sizes they also get proportionately more midsole foam and these effects can be surprising. (BTW I have a Kerag 12.5 US and 13.5 US and the most striking difference is that the midsole is obviously thicker in the 13.5!) 3. Deep stack and very compliant foams in large sizes start to require a lot of ankle strength to stabilize the foot. 4. For me the proprioception of less cushion and firmer shoes affect my shock absorption at a fairly unconscious level. The only time I get joint or foot pain is when spending too much time in squish and the solution is less cushion (and strength work) not more. I'm one of the largest runners you are likely to run into and I have done road ultramarathons "comfortably" in NB Hanzo S and Nike Streak 6 and 7. I have done trail ultras in the Salomon S/Lab Sense series until they kind of evolved in a way that didn't work for me. What does happen is that my shoes break down before my flyweight buddy. Anyway, I may be an outlier but I do not like the shoes that you recommended for heavier runners at all.

For me a daily running shoe should promote foot and leg strength, so yes low stack is great for that but also low drop...hence the SL2 or Nova rise are not really an option (at least for me). What's your take on the Topo Athletic brand? One of the only brands to have low stack low drop shoes.

Here’s a Shoe Talk question: I just discovered that my current daily trainer is a stability shoe. I don’t need a stability shoe because other than a very, very slight supination, I run fine. Is there a drawback to using a stability shoe if you don’t need it? Am I causing myself damage?

What shoe similar Asics Superblast? I need shoe: stable, lightweight, cushions, durable? (21-42km pace 6) many thanks !

Hi Sir what shoe can you suggest for a supination heel striker for long runs thats affordable on hot weather. ty Sir 😊

Do you know any good daily trainers of the lesser known chinese brands? Like li-ning, xtep, 361 or qiaodan?

Sir kindly provide some shoe rotation for medium pronatores. Already I am using ASICS get 2000 12. Now kindly suggest me what would my another shoe option form these brands esp on low cushion side. Because you have suggested to have a combination of high cushion and low cushion.

Hi pls recommend a daily trainer/supertrainer(capable for LSD or marathon) for wide feet. I am wearing a US size 10 Superblast 1, but I still get blisters on the bottom of my toes when I am out for long run/marathon. Thanks. (I am already wearing finger socks btw)

I’m a beginner runner that just ran a half marathon in the brooks adrenaline gts 22. I’ve notice the bottom of my shoe is rubbing off on the right side heel (right shoe). Does this mean I should go with the adidas sl or the Nike Pegasus? Sorry if this question doesn’t make any sense.

I want one shoe that I can use for maybe 2 races per year. Can it be the SL2? Considering most of my runs are 10-15km with varied paces and the odd race (up to 42km). It must be able to do short runs and the odd long run per week (2+ hours)

Why NB’s Rebel V4 is a no?

rebel v4 has worked really well for me as a daily trainer, but I am a lighter track athlete

its so hard to be a heavy runner =( the evolution is ultra slow

I got about 13 minutes into the video and said to myself, "Why hasn't he mentioned the Supernova Rise yet? He loves that shoe." I guess I spoke too soon. 😅

SL 2 is the G.O.A.T 🐐

What about... just get them aaaaaaall

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