I don't think Discord have much concern about being "alive", as he showed to Starlight in "A Matter of Principals". As long as magic comes back eventually, he can recreate his body.

What if starlight was still around after twilights friends was deceased and therefore she tried casting a spell but turned herself and twilight into a stone. ahh so many theories!

Actually we do have a slight clue as to their state of being while in statue form. If what discord says is true they are still very aware of their surroundings but not able to move, so a fate I feel far worse than death.

If I remember correctly, Alicorns are extremely longevous, but they’re not immortal

What if the magic wasn't completely gone? It was stored in crystals from each of the pony tribes, so maybe it was just pony magic (and that of those animals from Zephyr Heights who could fly for some reason). Some people say that Twilight is still alive, and is the reason why magic was lost (although the specifics of her motives for doing that vary from one person to another), and didn't lose her own magic. I think it's interesting to note that Equestria in G5 is safe and hasn't been taken over by any evil forces, despite having been isolated and defenseless for possibly many centuries, which suggests that someone or something had been protecting it. Unless literally everyone who might want to take advantage of this situation is already dead or otherwise incapacitated.

I could see discord being so distraught after his -wife's- Fluttershy's death that he turns back to chaos to try to forget about it

Chrysalis heard of Grogar, so I must assume she lived during the ancient times when he was a well known legend, not just obscure children's fairy tale.

Discord could have lost his magic but kept his immortality. For all we know, his immortality could be attached to his species like dragons rather than his magic. I mean, he is a draconequus. For all we know, that species is immortal or at least long living like the dragons. It would also explain why he couldn’t solve everything with his op magic, because he has none. And instead of him appearing as a villain or a good guy, he could just be some wise old sage character living in flutter shy’s old home. Maybe it could be overgrown and a tree could have grown through it, which would make for a very fun design. We have plenty of hollowed out trees for houses, but what about an old house where a tree grew through it? Would make for some nice silent lore. Plus having discord as a wise old sage type of character would work pretty well with the possible stories for g5. A fan favorite story route people hope for them to go on is a journey through equestria, giving us a view of what it’s become, as the characters search for clues of the past so they can learn forgotten lessons to help them in the present.

I think discord turned himself into stone after fluttershy died

If Sombra comes back again he is going to become the new William Afton

If they do bring flurry back... Have her aged up and maybe since Tara did do her crying noises... Maybe have Tara voice her?

the conclusion i always drew about alicorns was that they lived as long as the subject of their cutie mark. cutie marks may be an enigma still, but the effects seemed straightforward; celestia and lunas magical fate-dentity were connected to the actual sun and moon in the sky. twilight was a, if not THE, major conduit for some of the most powerful magic in equestrias history (all of it friendship based, no less). and cadence was... less clear, it seemed she may have been connected to the crystal heart, OR could have been the alicorn of love, and alongside shining armor was a marker of a different kind of love than friendship, as well as parents to flurry heart, who, born in the crystal pony kingdom, would eventually rule it as the obe with the connection to the crystal heart. so celestia and luna could very well still be kicking, since the sun and moon are, obviously. twilight may or may not be (depending on if you read her life purpose to be magic based or friendship based) and could either be just some weird giant purple lady in a library somewhere OR dead after the last of her friends died. cadence is also a maybe, whether she dies after shining armor does or lives as long as flurry heart. and flurry heart is going to be alive as long as the crystal kingdom, so, take that for what you will. love the concept and how you handled it though. im excited to see how things shape up

In one of the comics Discord is shown to be alive, but aged, meaning he may not have all of his magic NOTE: In that same comic, it's shown that the alicorn at the end of Make Your Mark caused the feud between the pony races

There is one pony you overlooked. But the second one is StarSwirl who is properly passed on anyway despite his incredibly unusual longevity. The first is Starlight. Well, it is more than just Starlight. But Starlight armed with Star Swirl's spells. Herself and or Sunburst could be entrusted with Star Swirl's longevity secret. (which may or may not be an immortality like spell) She has also proven herself to be adept at time travel magic. This would make one of them (most likely starlight) to appear as living in G5 while having actually died a long time in the past. Not that I propose her role would be particularly big, But as a well experienced headmistress of the school of Friendship, she would be well placed to provide a crucial emotional or knowledge boost when the G5 group may need it.

Alicorn lifespans could be as long-lasting as the purpose the alicorn in question has in the world is needed. And unless Discord turned himself into stone, he could be hiding in the chaos dimension, unable to leave during the period when magic was basically non-existing. I have a whole idea on how Twilight and the magic could leave, but that would require a dedicated video to discuss properly.

Actually In season 10 we see that chrysalis is actually almost free so they didn’t even lasted more the. 1 year or 2 maybe it was months but I am still feeling sad for cozy glow being turned to stone

What if twilight just removed magic from all pony kinds as she saw them fighting and she couldn’t fight that without her deceased friends therefore having no choice but to remove the magic. She had the idea of crystals as an idea so she stored everyone else’s magic into them. I think she is still alive as argyle has a NEW condition of twilights feather. If it was an old feather, why isn’t it in messy condition and why inst it dusty. Half broken etc.

I believe that after Twilight's friends died, something happened that made the 3 ponies (pegasi,unicorn,earth ponies) fight. In heartswarming, Twilight decided to plan something that included all the princesses but it went wrong and only brought back the windigos. Since the only known thing to defeat the windigos is friendship, Twilight doesnt have any other choice but to take the magic of everypony (including herself and her friends) but her friend's magic and herself turned into the form of their element and she combined them to the 3 crystals we know now. She tried to suck up the windigos with the crystals but she couldn't do it alone, so all the other princesses helped by tranferring all their magic to the crystal and standing by her side. She successfully banished the windigos along with herself and the princesses forever. This would make how their isnt any sign of windigos or how the sun and moon can set by itself. Sure Luna and Celestia could still be alive but wouldn't the other ponies know who they are? Because even if Celestia and Luna retired, after Twilight dies (I heard she's not immortal) someone has to take her place and the 2 sisters are the only choice. Sure another princess can rule over but she would still die and someone has to take her place and what if their wasnt any alicorn left? It just doesnt add up.

If discord, is still around, he's gonna be crying because Fluttershy is gone

I've always thought that if Discord's realm wasn't affected by the loss of magic, the the dream realm wasn't either and Since most of Luna's magic seems to only really exist in the dream realm (Unless it escapes like the Tantabus) Luna might still exist there, and that the Tantabus and possibly traces of Nightmare Moon might also still exist. That would also explain why ponies aren't plagued by nightmares. Considering how important Luna's job was, (not saying Celestia was unimportant, but there were other ponies who could move the sun nd be a good leader) I have a feeling thing would go badly with out her.

The new “alicorn” sunny toy says some stuff about somber

This is the first video I've seen of yours and I'm hooked, you have a perfect ASMR voice, it's very calming and I found you at just the right time. I will definitely check out more videos in the future

It Was Actually Shown Recently That Spike Is Still Alive And Is Apparently king Of The Dragons

Fun facts i figured out opaline the new alicorn in G5 has a very very similar color palette of furry if the color are inverted almost as if "she turned to the dark side" if she did yk, and to her being born an alicorn could be bc shining armor is a unicorn and cadence was i think said to be a pegasus so i think it could be that yk, since all other ponies are of the "same kind"?

As for Discord it's clear that he is only in Equestria for Fluttershy mainly... If Fluttershy and him ended up together like I predict they hinted at in season 9s finale then if Fluttershy passed its probably very likely to predict that discord would feel he had no reason to live anymore and thus died with Fluttershy.... Spike well spike saw Twilight as a mother like figure, he loved Rarity, and he was super super close to Rainbow, Pinkie, Fluttershy, Starlight, Ember, Smolder, Thorax, Shining, Cadence, and Apple Jack if he Rarity POSSIBLY got together he probably passed when Rarity did.... If not then it's safe to assume that he stayed around for as long as Twilight did possibly to help her grieve or in a body guard type way aka to help keep her safe... But spike whether he died with Rarity or stayed with Twilight I see him dead either way cause if him and Rarity were together he like Discord wouldn't have handled the loss of a mate and then died with her if he wasn't with Rarity then it's safe to assume he stayed with Twilight but as Twilight eventually would've given either Luster or Starlight alicorn status it's safe to assume if not with Rarity Spike would've died with Twilight.... But the begs to question what about Twilight's personal student Luster and Starlight... Which one would become Alicorn? I mean Starlight, Trixie and Sunburst are probably around the same age as the mane 5 aka Fluttershy, Rarity, Pinkie, Rainbow, and AJ if that's the case I dont see Twilight making Starlight an Alicorn unless Twilight approved of Starlight making herself young again... Therefore I think Luster became a princess before magic died and if she did maybe cause Twilight sensed magic disappearing maybe to save Princess Luster Dawn she sends Luster to the Crystal Empire with Flurry if my theory is true it's possible that Luster Dawn is still alive but as a princess like Flurry

If the spell sealing Cozy/Chrysalis/Tirek failed... wouldn't the spell sealing the Pony of Shadows (which was not Stygion but the shadow creature, itself) be released from limbo? Because Twilight had to break Starswirl's spell to open the gateway.

my theory might be a bit extreme, but, I thought: what if Flurry Heart is Opaline? since Cadence is gone the crystal heart could also be since it served to spread Love and Light (Cadence and Flurry) and without cadence it could be gone, so Flurry got corrupted by King Sombra (explains the dark colors Opaline has) and moved to Canderlot since nobody lived there anymore and also because of the extreme cold. as I said it's a bit extreme but explains how there's a alicorn and why it's evil

I think that with Crystallis, like how changelings feed off love, that love helps them stay alive, and something tells me that there won't be that much love left with magic gone, so maybe she could even die before cozy glow does

Actually in the upcoming G5 comics it was revealed that both Sombra and Discord are back.

I'm just gonna say that I think your channel is very underrated. You seem to put a lot of effort into your theories !

*Magic Disappears* Discord : Oh no im disappearing Brb *Magic Comes back* Discord : Well im incredibly lonely... TIME TO PLOT A NEW GAME FOR NEW PONIES TO PLAY WITH MUAHAHAHAHAHA im really lonely....

It’s sad to think that the other mane 5 are dead and that twilight is alive

If discord is effectively a manifestation of chaos , like how the spirit of harmony is a manifestation of harmony then id say its likely that even if discord, being such a magical being died or straight up ceased to exist when magic disappeared so long as there is some chaos in equestiria i would say its likely discord would eventually reform from that once magic returned, whether that's the same discord with all the same memories or a 'new' discord called into existence in the same way but with a separate set of memories and experiences is up for debate.

There is 10% chance that discord could come back but as evil because his dear fluttershy passed away

What if the main ponies aren't really dead? What if after the loss of Magic, the Mane Six's bodies got sucked into the Elements of Harmony (which could possibly still exist in G5) and in the elements, they got trapped, forever waiting for another pony to "reactivate" the elements and set them free. Or what if the ponies are really still alive, as in alive and breathing in the G5 universe? Maybe the loss of magic destroyed the G5 pony's taste of time? Making them confused that the G4 timeline was thousands of years ago when it is actually just a few years ago? So many questions, so little answers

Grogar is actually a major villain in the original MLP show that I grew up with - and I'm pretty sure, iirc, he doesn't live in Equestria. He lives somewhere else. They make a very big point of saying he doesn't live in "Ponyland" (it's not called Equestria at this point; I don't remember its original name, but this is very much pre-Equestria. Fun fact - there's also a character living in this time called Gusty, who has the same cutie mark and colouring as Gusty the Great; so it's probably the same character). So it's entirely possible that he could return.

My theory about Alicorns is that they’re not just magically immortal, but that they instead have a magically extended lifespan, meaning eventually they do die, but maybe an Alicorn death is more along the lines of fading into the ether

This is a great video, and might I say your voice is really relaxing lol

a theory of mine, is that g4 takes place around 150-250 years before g5. If you look at the technology in g4 its looks to be around 1850s, 1900s era technology. Looking at the technology of g5, phones, modern houses so i can gues current time, 2020. Unfortunately my theory gets broken when a line in G5 states that twilight lived in a ancient time period. Idk

One of my favorite things is that if you look at twilight’s wiki (I think it’s twilight’s) one of the people who worked on g4 has said she doesn’t outlive her friends, which could be taken one of two ways: either they all went down together or as is also said “the ponies have been exposed too all sorts of crazy magic, who knows how it’s affected them” implying that the magic of friendship has made them so connected to Twilight that they share her immortality and I think that’s just neat :)

woah, i WAS not expecting you quiet calm voice. to say i am happy is an understatement. (great video too!)

i finished watching all the available episodes and all the alicorns are probably alive with or without magic maybe not Twilight because Opaline herself has been alive since celestia and luna were kids and she did mention alicorns as "immortal rulers"

I have something else to put into the mix. If Tirek was trapped in Tartarus for centuries with literally no magic and in his weakened form then surely he has to be immortal. I mean at the beginning of Twilight's Kingdom when we first see him he's even weaker than his weakened form so he surely must be immortal. I'm sorry if I've missed something here, but something doesn't quite add up to me.

How different would this list be if it's proven that ponies live much longer lives than humans? Ex; Granny Smith. Some other bronies like joshscorcher brought up some good points.

i think when the tribes started to fight twilight took the magic to protect everyone from attacking eachother. i think all alicorns and discord are all alive.

Discord snaps his figures and causes ... discord. The very notion of "Why don't he snap his figures and fix problems" is silly cause he has chaos magic ...

You're missing one pony. Fluttershy. If Discord is still alive, so is Flutttershy because I don't see her dying while he has anything to do about it.

I could actually see twilight sparkle still alive somewhere. And she hasn't aged a bit and she is living in her own little decorated cave. and she is somehow watching the mane 5.

I guess to contradict your idea of the Alison's being gone at this point, it doesn't explain why opaline is still around when it's been said that she basically grew up around Celestia and Luna

I think luna was became older and looked like celestia, but celestia died. It makes luna living somewhere alone or moved on.

Twilight maybe still alive!

Ponies are naturally Tribalist, as evident by the fact that Equestria, on numerous occasions, was almost _ripped apart_ at its _seams_ because a disagreement broke out between a group of ponies. In fact, the only reason the tribes united and founded Equestria in the first place was because they'd all die otherwise. Equestria was created through an Alliance that was formed out of survival, not a new-found desire for friendship. Equestria was doomed to crumble eventually due to the ponies themselves.

The Crystal Empire has their own form of magic with the Crystal Heart, so they could still be around.

Oh and any victim of the cockatrice, since I'd imagine that any victim of them would possibly exist as stone. Possibly able to return in a future moment using magic or a friendly cockatrice willing to turn them back. Great... Now that makes me imagine some characters might have used one to save themselves when magic was getting destroyed, maybe even in pieces to be assembled at a later moment..

i think discord is still around. he can sense magical imbalance can’t he, he probably would have noticed that magic was slowly disappearing and left equestria

Flurry Shart as twist villain. giving the fans what they want

Excuse me, I have News for you the special will be come out next year in 2022 which is spring or fall and that way we can get more answers and questions about what happened to it and some of the characters alive

i think Spike might be still alive because Dragons can live Thousands of years

Spike is now dragon lord in g5

while not canon, the gen 5 IDW comics confirm that discord is still alive sadly I doubt he'll appear in the main series, but if he does then damn I'll be surprised. also as for Chrysalis she might show up in in the gen 5 IDW comic, since at the end of issue 102 on the last page it shows chrysalis starting to break free, with a pony looking at her saying "she's early" and at the bottom of the page it says "the end for now" while I doubt she will appear in the main series ,there is still a chance she might appear in the comic. but yeah I feel like that is a hint that we might see her again because, why show her breaking free on the last page with the words "the end for now" and not do anything with it?

The three characters that I think are still around are discord flurry heart and spike. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t discord a god? I’m pretty sure he would be unaffected by magic disappearing from equestria. For flurry heart, my theory is simaliar to Stratagem. Because she was born a alicorn she is a true alicorn. That means she is immortal and she’s probably some where out side of equestria. Last is spike. I’m pretty sure that spike and the other young dragons are still alive. They’re probably off in the dragon lands, watching the events of G5 unfold. Maybe these three will come back later in G5. No one really knows.thank you if read this far.

Idk where to write this so I’ll write it here It’s not much but the realisation that gen 4 ended 4 years ago actually hurt me, I felt tears The wrap up was good, I got over my issues with it, I was just salty about it, now I’m just sad honestly, there’s characters I would’ve loved to see more of, and from what I’ve seen, g5 isn’t living up to it, might need to rewatch at some point

The whole King Sombra getting blown up was just funny

I think that since Discord is an embodiment of pure chaos, and chaos will be around forever, he should be immortal. If he dies somehow though, then there will be a new creature of chaos created by nature.

I always headcanon that Twilight's magic got weaker after the other mane 6 deaths And thats why she couldn't stop whatever made magic disappear and separated the tribes again

If spectrum stick around to explain to them who they were, they might rebuild them, but they might have to go to Spike to ask them who they were, but might go to her. They were many of the villains had him and his friend

My theory is that they lived until magic was gone because I think that they are immortal as long as magic is still around but when it was sealed away they lost the thing keeping them alive so they started to pass one by one

Great video. Most of My little pony friendship is magic characters might be gone, their live on in our hearts.

The ending was good and Twilight is ready to become the new ruler of Equestria. But in the mids's Of the ending It was kind of sad that Chrysalis, cozy glow And Tirek Did not get reform But instead They got turn to stone. That make me so sad and upset I wish the writers and hasbro would Give them Second chance and god reform. But instead they didn't. How did You feel about them get turned to stone and did not get reformed. do you feel sorry for them Just a little bit.

Discord because he’s a creature that lives forever and has already been in the G5 comic book series so far so I think he might be part of that show…. maybe… I guess.

Honestly i think pumpkin cake and (idk the other baby name) is in g5 cuz they were just babys in g4 for the whole show! And furry heart ofc but who is moving the sun and moon now? Flurry? Or someone else?

Wait so twilight has to be dead so that means dragons live longer the alicorns

Alicorns I dont think are immortal, Celestia and Luna were in power way longer then they should have been and admitted that, but Twilight im pretty sure was a different story, I think the rulers said that Twilight would not reign as long and would also not be immortal *Not specifically in these words but still the same concept*, and the fact of everything going on in G5. And if we are just talking about Discord without magic, there is the possibility where he disappears, not because magic left, but because he lost personality, he lost his magic, which partially makes him who he is.

Ive been scrolling down but i have not seen anything about flurry heart! Hello! She was born an alicorn! So she not in there?! Bro even discord is somehow alive.

In chapter 5 of mym there is a unicorn who said her great great great great aunt was moondancer

I was really hoping that we would get a "Secret of my Excess" moment with Ember before the show ended and saw what her Emberzilla form would have looked like or at least seen her future self in the last episode. "EMBER SMASH!!!"

I feel like Spike and Smolder and most dragons we met are still alive

Here over a year later: Discord is still around in the G5 comics

I personally think that the trio who ended up as statues might have gotten free before whatever happened to divide the species... Really, Cozy Glow and Chrysalis would have been perfect to cause a divide. Chrysalis just disguises herself as ponies and randomly carries out acts to fan the flames of racism, with Cozy Glow helping from the pony side, while Tirek sits back and eventually tries to steal magic again during the chaos and suddenly there's an actual reason why removing magic entirely is a good idea to Twilight, since it's the only way to stop Tirek and put an end to the more destructive abilities being used by ponies against ponies like weather magic, unicorn spells, and earth pony strength!

Here's another possibility for Grogar: He could be in limbo. I also thought of a theory that would help explain some inconsistencies with the cutie marks in G5: the majority of magic in Equestria may be gone, but that does not mean that it's gone in the entire world. As we learn after the G4 movie (and when Tirek was introduced), there are lands outside of Equestria. Considering that the Storm King had some magic and that we don't see any other creatures like him in Equestria, he could be from elsewhere. The planet could still have magic, it's just very weak in Equestria. That would also help in explaining why so many ponies continue to receive their cutie marks and that they're present on just one flank instead of two.

The biggest question that has to be answered is WHY magic is gone, And for that, I have a theory: It could be possible that someone from the HU-mane Universe found out about the pathway from Canterlot High (or possibly some other place, since we know that magic has been connected to other places in that world.) But due to one event or another, they ended up causing trouble in the Mane universe, and thus Twilight had to cut all connections between the two worlds and cover up the events to make sure nobody else would cause more trouble like that again, but due to the various tribes only knowing the results and not its origin they'd blame each other for what happened and as a result, Friendship (and subsequently Magic) would start to fade from the world, But the knowledge that came from the other world remained. Thus it would explain why the world looks more Advanced than before but the "why's" and "How's" are Not. Granted, I would assume that Magic ITEMS would not have lost their inherited power (since, while it CONTAINS magic powers It can't "leak" (for lack of a better term) it without a (metaphorical) Hole that would drain it.) After all, if magic was lost "naturally", it wouldn't be possible to re-awaken it again, but the movie showed us that the power was only inaccessible, not lost. If it WAS lost some creature would have done so on purpose. (why they would try to steal it in the first place I do not know, but that's beside the point.) After all, the movie showed us that the power was just inaccessible, not gone.

You forget sometime magical theory, disappear way before discord came into the picture he was still in case in stone

With chrysalis cozy and tirem, they are in stone that was made by discord and chaos cant die

Something that intrigues me is how long dragons live. In the later seasons we saw with the Pillars that dragons like Torch and who we assume is Ember's mother are full grown and Torch looks identical to how he is in modern day. And this is +1000 years ago and before the Pillars left when Celestia and Luna were young students so Torch more than likely could be far older than Celestia and Luna themselves. And we saw how much things changed between the Pillars time and Twilight's time, so the idea of Gen 4 and Gen 5 being around 1000 years apart makes sense, I mean compare it our world and compared the 1910s to the 2010s. So logically Spike and the other dragons being around does make a lot of sense.

4:32 he appears in one of the g5 comics

I mean considering the fact that we now know that opalin is celestial and Lina’s sister Luna twilight flurry heart and people might still be alive

I know this was from 2 years ago but keep in mind granny has been around since the start of ponyville (I really don't know how old she is)

Grogar made all the evil in ecrestrea

The background music I heard it all before because I use it for I could go to sleep

i dont think alicorns are immortal but can def live to over 1000, but in g5 when all the magic was gone for some reason (idk much about g5) it probably took away the magical long lifespan of an alicorn instead of the alicorns giving it up

I got it! So ppl are always Debating if alicorns were Immortal or not just like twilight Because Her and cadence Were made alicorns And celestia and luna Didn't Age Much in 1k years But on opalines backstory They were kids too So If im correct, every alicorns grow up but when there grown Or Hold a strong amount of magic ( Possibly ) They would Become Almost Immortal like they would probably Live for 3-5k years Especially Flurry heart as she Was born an alicorn Comment if i missed anything?

i could be wrong here but this is just my personal opinion. i think the life span of the dragons is much longer. think about it. in the campfire episode where rainbow dash, rarity and applejack talk about their favorite legends, we see embers father. the legends take place around star swirls time which is before the princesses even started to rule so probably a thousand years and a couple decades, maybe even a century on top (or more who knows). and he was the size he is today even back then. he barely changed. this means that the dragons life span is closer to a couple thousand years rather then a couple centuries

I think Starlight Glimmer could still be around. She has a lot or experience dabbling into Star Swirl’s spells and Star Swirl claimed to have been alive for thousands of years despite being a normal unicorn, meaning he likely had some magic that extended his lifespan or made him immortal. Starlight has both used and improved Star Swirl’s spells throughout the series, so it certainly isn’t a stretch of the imagination that she could have made herself immortal or increased her lifespan. It also doesn’t seem improbable that she could have been promoted to an alicorn at some point in between G4 and G5, she certainly is capable of a lot of princess-worthy feats.

Interesting and cool vid.

I don't know if this supported by the cannon, but I think it is, I headcannon that the Changeling leaders have extended lifespans. I think Chrysalis probably used most of her lifespan in the past, but Thorax might still be alive, or have only died recently.

THEORY:WHO STOLE MAGIC? TEREK AND COSY GLOW THERE WERE 3 VILLAINS TRAPPED HOW MANY ARTIFACTS WHERE NEEDED TO PUT MAGIC BACK 3!!!! Coincidence I think not!

I swear if mlp doesent awake the rainbow factory cannon one day I'm mad.

My simple answer, it’s dragons

Actually nightmare isn't the same the nightmare is a separate entaty that feeds off bad emotional matter so even if luna isn't around the nightmare and maybe the tantabus could still come back

So far spike is the only one we know alive