I'll be honest with y'all, alicorn or not the villain is the most ugliest oc iv ever seen. Whoever was in charge of her looks needs to be fired

As usual those are some pretty good theories! it would indeed be interesting if an Alicorn civilization did and or does exist, however one of the biggest things to wonder about such a civilization is if all of the Alicorns in it are all female or if there were male Alicorns in it as well? but either way i'm sure that's a topic you'll cover when the time comes.

I would think the alicorn tribes stopped using all their powers because it was unnecessary, not a war. MLP has been dark at times but I doubt their wars would have scared them into not using all their skills ever again. If they lived in very different places, different abilities would be used. That their other types of magic just weren´t that useful or necessary anymore. Like, the tribe that became the earth ponies might have had non-fertile land and need to use that part of their magic, their focus on getting enough food. Pegasi tribe might have been in a place where flying was everything. Unicorns might have lived in a place where defending themselves with magic was important. Then they could find Equestrian land and all the tribes would want the safer and better land, forcing reluctant cooperation until the Windigoes. I like this theory though. It would explain why Sunny looks different from the evil alicorn.

Problem: Luna and Celestia were present for the “no Alicorn has ever been born before” line. They were not originally Alicorns according to this line (that I believe was literally delivered by one of them themselves).

Interesting, so alicorns from this gen now have the ability to transform when they want and can just revert back to their og born type. And sunny is the first of a whole new gen of alicorns, so that means this villian (which I suspect is radiant hope from the comics) is from the old Equestria. That would explain why she is still alive because of her alicorn form, and that also makes me wonder.. does that mean twilight could still be alive. And could this villian be the reason the magic of friendship was lost for so long, all questions we'll have to see answered in the upcoming series I suppose.

Sad that the alicorn civilization ee heard about in the Journal of the Two Sisters was retconned by the show, at least kind of, we still cant be sure, but its unlikely, anyway, I like the thought of her being a new kind of alicorn, but I will for now stick with the pseudo alicorn thing until we hopefully get an explanation in MYM

There's a few things that are interesting about this theory. I need to look into the short tho

Now you mention, it definitely makes sense that the tribes evolved from alicorns and not the other way around! Thank you for not crushing my dreams of the alicorn civilisation (ahem, Alicornia)’s existence :p The recessive gene idea explains everything so well!

What if the Alicorns just had a select few they gave their magic too. It's been stated that the magic can NOT just disappear. So Luna and Celestia became basically immortal because of a crazy amount of magic

I don't think Izzy was growing the roses, she was just straightening them after they were flattened.

So, technically Luna and Celestia are winged unicorns. (Cadence and cozy, are horned pegasi.) In original mlp as faust wrote them, Luna and Celestia were not born alicprns since they are winged unicorns. That would mean they ascended like twilight. Until tirek was present there were no alicorns. The only "true" alicorns would be flurry heart, and perhaps this unknown alicorn. -- but Sunny would count. However: Flurry came from a pegacorn and unicorn. Twi, tia, and luna were all unicorns. So... the only options are unknown alicorn. And sunny (sunny can use all three but doesnt have physical wings and horn?).

I have a theory about how this whole shabang happens... What if this all started because of Flurry heart. Flurry heart should be a true immortal like celestia and luna even though they shouldn't be but they have lived 1000 years anyways. It has been said that twi is not immortal, This included princess cadence... Maybe a alicorn lives as long as they are needed or deemed and since Celestia and Luna were needed to keep the balance they lived forever... but what about flurry heart she was a full natural born first of its kind alicorn. I can imagine that either her or her future daughter is our mysterious alicorn. Here me out, this is pure speculation but if we fallow just what we know. - Alicorns are prone to becoming Evil or Their desires - Alicorns Can Live for a really long time -Twi would die with her friends With all this unless cadence is a true immortal like Celestia and Luna, she would die at some point too. Flurry heart would have to face a world out of her control changing, She being the only thing standing still after all this time. She would go mad quickly and what ever possesed luna will come to possess flurry heart and if my assumption is correct she would want control over the uncontrol-able. It wouldnt be far fetched she would try and take over equestria from the crystal empire, this would lead to twi's pupils trying to defeat her but failing against a pure alicorn and in a ditch attempt to stop her they solidfied magic into an object that can only work when all ponies are at peace and if they weren't it would shatter and trapping magic from existing. They basically made sure she can take no one by locking her away without magic and preventing her from ever ruling. This mysterious alicorn can only be in a place which would have been majorly populated by ponies since you can see a regular non alicorn pony behind her which means she has people who would remain loyal... almost like its the crystal empire, also look at the curvature of the horn, same as sombra. Also think about the parallel, if episode 1-4 are about a alicorn who turned that needs to be redeemed... wouldn't the ponies who are facing major change be able to bring her back to her former self just like the first season of g4 mlp did. Alot of reboots and remakes are doing just that, Directors love Call backs and Parallels

The fact that you used something from The Owl House intro makes me so happy

Well whatever the future of Alicorns holds, one thing is for sure. Sunny, Izzy, Hitch, Zipp and Pipp are the next generation of heroes of Equestria and it will up to them to protect everypony from treats, like that Shadowly alicorn. I don’t know how Sunny and her friends will defeat her, but she won’t have to go trough it alone, because she has her friends and the magic of friendship by her side.🐴🦄🦋🧡

The funny thing is with Izzy carrying that truck no problem if twilight was still around she would be considered a magical prodigy.

I am convinced most mlp youtubers know each other

I really hope you're right! I have so much hope for g5, I loved G4 with all my heart, and it was hard to say goodbye to that for me, but I'm glad the franchise as a whole still has fans like you, and I hope that G5 is what the fandom needed to come back to life in a way. I'm just really hopeful about the future of this series, and I'll be following content creators like you as well as eagerly awaiting new G5 content.

This theory supports my own theory on alicorns that I commented a while back. This is awesome

I believe that Sunny Starscout is now a Permanent Alicorn Princess, because she is now the new Princess and Ruler of Equestria.

About Sunny, you meant a new kind of alicorn for the 5 generation, because if there was another person who was the same as Sunny, I mean Sunset Shimmer. She was also such an energy-alicorn in Friendship Games.

OMGOSHHH!! I just ADORE this theory!! It just makes too much sense. Ever since I fell madly in love with the Equestria and all its beauty and lore, alicorns always seemed to flawed with its orginis. But your ideas would fit the timelines so well. Cudoues to you, my inteligent steed!!

I once thought of an alicorn civilization in a Mt. Olympus like area hidden away in a part of Equestrian not yet visited in G4.

I think the reason sunny isn't a full on alicorn like the others were is because she hasn't fulfilled her destiny yet . She restored balance but if you think about it she hasn't learn a main lesson or solved a magic spell or anything twilight has done. Maybe she will become a full alicorn once she finishes her lesson.

So essentially during the princesses' retirement they got busy with other ponies and made more alicorns

Interesting, I would be curious to see what you think about the somewhat more permanent presence of the alicorn features in those who create new magic that helps others. How is it more permanent? Well, when Grogar's bell took away magic from Cozy glow, her horns disappeared, and her wings went back to normal size. Twilight, Luna and Celestia retained the physical appearance of an alicorn, even when the gifts associated with them were taken away (their magic). Can the new alicorn at the end of the make your mark special lose her alicorn form with a similar device? How would that fit into the genetic theory. I know the main question somewhat falls on Flurry heart, but the show may have done this to avoid showing the idea of the baby being attacked.

It could be possible That an Alcorn civilization happened before grogar’s Rain. Great theory!

It would be really interesting if this alicorn just had plans to rule equestria and used the power of Friendship to her advantage… she could even befriend Queen Haven to make royal alliances

Welp, that certainly aged well.

Glad to see Bronies coming back :)

sunny still doesn't know how to control her alicorn magic, and her wings / horn appear randomly. i think that's why they're transparent, and i think they'll become whole when she learns how to control her magic. twilight was already a unicorn who knew how to use magic. but good theory tho! :)

Loran Fouce said the 2 sisters were born alicorns. Whe flurry heart was born, the Luna said "it is beyond even our understanding". She didn't say she didn't believe it was possible. She just didn't understand. Noticed how she's younger by 5 years, she probably doesn't remember being born an alicorn, if she was. Maybe Celestia knew something Luna didn't

'Alicorn civilization', eh? That brings back memories.

Yessss love your videos. Always excited to watch them. ❤️

Oooo love the theory and the Doctor Who stuff mixed in.

Makes me wonder does Equestria have ties to Pondland? Ponyland was from My Little Pony Generation 1. Wonder now if Ponyland was rename Equestria predating Princesses Celestia and Luna. Including King Sombra and Discord. Before Discord became good in My Little Pony Friendship is Magic a.k.a. Gen 4.

Ooh! Also! What if the Alicorns stopped using their magic to hide from beings like Tirek, like "Magic hunters" that were after them for their magic? Like, they had an encounter with them and then fled to Equestria where they vowed to stop using their abilities and then evolution took place? I dunno, possible?

Totally on board with this theory! I mentioned the ancient alicorn civilization in a narrative essay I had to write recently for school because it adds a lot to the backstory of my custom characters! And I did actually bring up the the whole alicorn war situation as an explanation for why the alicorn civilization no longer exists! (Plus why my custom characters never got to meet their real parents)

I love how you used The Owl House background lol

lol you were right , the secret alicorn civilization is called skyros

X3 awesome video dude keep it up

We don't know what that mysterious alicorn It maybe twilight or mcflurry but who knows? *Also this vector is requested by wind striker I hope you enjoy with these vectors in your future videos! Stay awesome Bud! ^^ **1:45** | **2:31*

I still kinda think that Opaline is a student of Twilight. She would have been told that she was a "princess" because Twilight assumed that all Alicorns were princesses. Twilight was told so by Celestia when she earned her own wings. We know Twilight had students herself at the end of the original series of G4. Opaline would feel she was entitled to being a princess because she *earned* her wings. These other ponies have done nothing to earn their place the way that she did. She worked so hard for so long and earned her wings or horn in a way that no other pony had at that point in time and now she wants to return Equestria to how it always was. To return Alicorns to the throne in their *rightful* place in the order of things.

I had a similar idea. But mine was, Equestria became a Rogue Planet, it started to move away from its true sun. The Alicorns used magic to create a new Sun and also bound the Moon in magic, the ones that did this focused on developing their range of magic becoming the Unicorns (who kept control of the sun and moon till Celestia and Luna). Of course losing the native Sun and almost the moon caused weather problems, the ones who focused on keeping the weather under control became the Pegasi. Then you had the ones tending to nature and growing food, those became the Earth Ponies. This of course happened so long ago that none of them remembered the native Sun. You get the conditions for the three tribes focusing on just one type of magic, and the other types faded from not being used. The magic changing could also explain how DRAGONS changed. Now Dragons hatch with wings.

Hey! I think you were wrong at 7:40 somewhere around that moment. I am currently rewatching mlp g4 and saw how twilight grew plants. It is season 7, episode 11, timestamp 19 minutes 25 seconds. Sure she was an alicorn by then, but as you said before, earth ponies didn't have the plant grow powers in g4. So unicorns CAN grow plants with their horns in g4 already!! I really hope you see this comment ^^

Can not wait!!!

I just assumed the natural born Alicorns came from another world through a portal. . That's why Celestia said a alicorn had never been born in Equestria.

These theories of yours are getting scary good. McFlurry making an appearance 🤣

New looks eh? Now this gonna be interesting 😁

I always thought that alicorns are result of a sort of enlightenment. if they fully understand there cutie mark to a conceptual level they metamorphosis into an alicorn, twiligh took a short cut by having the magic of all races in her heart (her friendship connections / soul links) and catalyzed it with friendship and magic

I'd like the idea of alicorns being aliens of some sort, they created the ponies or had some kind of part in their creation, that makes ponies their descendents, thats why they can become alicorns. Must like Jesus, celestia and luna were sent to equestria to protect ponies from their on conflicts, after all, there must always be an Alicorn. So it make sense that at least 1 alicorn could turn bad, like the new villain. Also the comic "The royal sisters" states that Celestia and Luna came from a "land" faar away from Equestria, pretty much confirming their alien status, since they do not are Equestrians.

✨Speculation with science✨ i love it 👀

Interesting theory, though you got evolution wrong. The Alicorns would have to had literally altered their genetics to suppress certain genes from expressing, through it seems that it was only temporary or absorbing sufficient magic would unlock the recessive genes.

Cool 😎

My theoy is that this new allicorn is actually Sunny's mother that has turned evil or mean due to maybe her being next in line to the throne but maybe the other tribes didnt respect her maybe that made her mad n leave she went to maretime bay n lived at the light house thinking about a way to get revenge she then maybe abandoned her daughter Sunny n Sunnys dad n went to a secret place with her followers from there she might have seperated the magic into 3 crystals n told some of her followers to cause problems in each tribe making the 3 pony tribes blame eachother for things n fight when the 3 tribes seperated after the fight each tribe lost there magic all together, this new alicorn "Sunnys mother" decided to hide the crystal with trusting ponys of each tribe that was her friends or family or followers that being why Sunny n her dad had the earth pony crystal, queen haven had the pegasis crystal n was put in charge of the throne for the pegasis cuzz of her bending the truth n lieing by making out they are royals that can still fly so they can keep them all safe making her rule there that would explain why she never took of the crown crystal she carryed, n then the unicorn crystal was in the hands of some pony who collects crystals before he lost it to that bar pony so maybe he was a follower that would then mean that Sunnys mother "this new alicorn" would have gave 1 crystal to a unicorn follower, 1 crystal to a family memeber that veing her husband n daughter, n 1 crystal to a friend being queen haven - untill the right time she was setting her plan into motion gaining more loyal followers in secret n now she is fully turned evil with no good left in her n with magic back n the 3 tribes together again she wants all the power back to controlle everyone, after all the earth pony clearly failed to keep the crystal since he lost it to the bar pony, queen haven has started to like her being the queen n ruling the pegasis since she has 2 daughters now n stuff so she has turned good, n sunnys father died but he raised sunny from a baby n taught her everything good n about friendship n hid the earth pony crystal in the lamp hoping that it will help his daughter one day after how Sunnys mother turned out maybe Sunnys dad realized she would return ome day after all we dont even no how Sunnys dad even died also Sunny has alicorn blood in her after all she is a temporary Alicorn n she brought magic back, there lighthouse even had a place holder for the 3 crystals so yer i really do think that this new Alicorn should be or could be Sunnys mother ( sunnys mother being an alicorn who was maybe an accestor or something to one of the princess from gen 4 n he dating n telling Sunnys dad all about the ponys stuff n from there he did stuff n found places maybe he even went to ponyville n all that since he had a map of equrestira as well as had stuff about star swirl n other stuff too, Sunnys mother has got to be an Alicorn n her Dad knew so much about Gen 4 timeline as well he even knew that princess celestia summoned twilight n told her to learn about the magic of friendship as he was telling Sunny the story in the movie ) the new Alicorn is Sunnys mother it makes alot of sence for it to be n it be a huge plot twist a full 180 unexpected plot twist if they go with the new alicorn being Sunnys mother n it would be such a intresting comfrontation between her n Sunny after a while like a dath vader telling Luke he was his father moment... Sunny would be so shocked

Idea: What if its easier to handle 3 middle tribes instead one big tribe. It would be really hard to have harmony with just one tribe. So they came to the idea to seperate each other.

Only problem I can see here, gen 4 had instances of a unicorn using magic to grow plants, and there was a instance of an earth pony speeding up the growth of a plant, granted it was a flashback in the past, but it was still hinted at

I honestly think that sunny did not deserve to be an alicorn,at least not yet. Twilight did so many things to be an alicorn and many sacrifices,while sunny right here just by fixing the misunderstanding between the three spiecies makes her an alicorn right away??? This honestly seems kind of rushed. Also ew, when Netflix animated the movie and saw the vilian they didn't think at all "you know maybe we shouldn't"at all???

we actually saw twilight casting a magic for growing plants in season 5. when map called Twilight and Fluttershy to a friendship mission. Where Twilight casted a freezing spell to everyone(like time stop)

I mean, Alicorn race did in fact exist but like Luna and Celestia said, after the war, they all disappeared, leaving the two of them alone.

if you read the diary of the two sisters, it mentions a school for alicorns and etiquette that each alicorn follows, which shows that a handful of alicorns existed, possible proof of a pre-existing alicorn tribe

Coming back to this after watching MYM chapter 5 it is said that alicorns come from a land in the sky (I think) named skyros

I would love for the new creators to watch these theorieas

Don’t forget, there was an alicorn princess in the legend of hearts and hoofs day.

los unicornios siempre pudieron usar su magia para plantar, solamente que por tradición no lo hacian, se puede ver en el episodio de "envolviendo el invierno" , de la g4

Sawtooth jaw is gonna drop xD

Well, it aged well. Long live Skyros!

This is so true

Me and my siblings will watch this later (me and my sister I have to work this morning) so we will watch when we get home ✨ but from the first 40ish seconds I’ve watched so far it’s great😁 edit: it was a great video

Hey this is good but can you make a theory about if gods exist in equestria? We know that ancient spirits exist, but what about gods.

Maby there’s some Ancient alicorm civislation ,and they decided that no one deserved to be a true alicorm bc of what happend in the last,so they only give sunny “half” alicorm

The music is a vibe

Well that is possible or maybe the Nighmare Alicorn or Alicorn who got corrupted , saying something about superiority , defeated by rebelion and the powers got separated , either by magic or genetically not using until those parts ceased to exist the magic from the wings or earth strength or magic from... Horn. The recessive gene

Sawtooth was right when he said there was an alicorn civilization.

for some reason, i can really easily see opaline being A. possibly starlight glimmers grand grand child? (idk how long that could go on for, but it could be her child or grand child, etc.) possibly starlight glimmer, became an Alicorn after the show, and had a child, but the child saw the powers, or was jealous of what her mom used to hold, and a war broke out, causing equestria to part its ways. B. A very magical pony took the powers from one of twilights AFTER mentors or future mentors, and became so powerful even she found a way to make a normal pony like herself take the magic and become a alicorn. maybe a artifact? maybe from pure magic itself? C. she could possibly be cozy glows child. the hair, the evil past, we never saw cozyglows past. there’s so many theories, and i’m so excited to see what it is. (this is really badly written, i was ina hurry.)

It is a good chance this Alicorn could be Fluffyheart cuz we never got to see her grow up.

Reminds me of the inkrose fan theory You both might be right after all

Wait i just remembered Where are the elements? Where is the tree? Where is tri's castle? What happened to discord? I got so many questions now

There’s another problem is that when when operating absorbed more magic jack she also became that type of à la corn so that means Sunny is just a Alcom but with more magic

IZZY did NOT Grow the flowers my dude she simply straightened them up

twilight sparkle is mad she’s going to eat you why did you expose her she’s so emo she told me on friendship land discord 😱😳

My idea is: this could been twilight or one of the other with wings. So flutter, rainbow dash, and twilight. Think one more but can’t remember. Only ones I can think of is glimmer, pinky pie, apple jack. There spike too but he got wing but he dragon. Many think glimmer and spike no part of mane 6 to 8 but there are. Alright back to ideas. Think some point in the series sunny and her friends might meet up with gen 4 pony. Even look there a new derpy here.

My Little Pony: Make Your Mark - The First Season is September 26th, 2022 and the Second Season is March 10th, 2023.

What if sunny is Twilight's decenent but also what if the one pony that is ends the first episode is actually twilight who fell for the same darkness luna did? For when she knew she was going to the same darkness she separated the magic away in the crystal so no one could use them but also when someone who had the same light and shared the gene with the light to bring back the real twilight who may need to be pulled back by what made her the princess of friendship.

Cozy glw was only a alicorn cause of grogars bell that took alicorn magic

Wait, did the tribes exist pre-grogar?

it could just be where the alicorns retire, meaning a civilization of old queens

izzy didnt grow anything though. she just restored the flattened roses that were already fully grown, just trampled

i think there is a civilization alicorn where all tribes didn't know or discovered about the skyro's where all alicorn lives if there are male alicorns they are rare but the two royal sisters the princesses are shown to be female alicorn but no male so only female alicorn exists.

I remember when the G4 movie leak was about the world of alicorns and Celestias and Lunas evil brother... but nope

to understand more the story plot of the last film "make your mark" ( especially at the end) you need to read the comics...wich not everyone do so yeah ...and also in that special we don't see discord and the ponys are supposed to have seen them so this may be BEFORE the comics AND before de new G5 animated series ...... yeah pretty confusing if you are not reading comics ... also a do think that this special was really rushed compared to the movie of even the animated series ê_e that's my felling .... nice video!

what if the mirror is a portal between past and future? and in the comic their is a fourth pony Trible and unicorns/etc without cutie marks and why taller??

Do the derpy idea next

well, one possibility : if the crystals were her's, maybe equestria stole them. if normal pony magic was failing, they might have needed some other source to prop up their civilization, needing it badly enough that they took it from someone else.

There is a theory (this theory is a mix of my theory and sawtooth wave's theory ) so I think this villain alicorn is not the real alicorn I mean she made herself an alicorn by receiving a lot of magic the way cozy glow become an alicorn and from where did she get that much magic ? What I think is that she somehow created a spell to absorb magic from other ponies and creatures just like trek and started taking magic from them slowly - slowly and that's why her hairs are normal and not like selestia or Luna because if she is a true alicorn from all those years ago her hairs should be like selestia and Luna. ( I know you think that if she do that twilight can easily found her out somehow but i think she can act as if her magic is also fading away so that no one can sespact her ) And after that pony kinds started to blame eachother for the fading of magic and then just like sawtooth wave's said in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otWmndykztbRoHk.html seeing the setuation twilight sacrificed herself to make the Cristal and I can't write that much so to know more about that watch that video and I think wind striker is right about that sunny is the first alicorn from next generation of the alicorn. Edit : (This is what I think, if you like my theory please like 👍 this comment.And sorry for making it long. )

I think Izzy did some kind of reversal spell

Shadow ferddy: Wouldn't break up not everything has changed change the history of a questria from the past on the past will we feel itself and when it does no one will prepare for what they will find

I do belive that was once an alicorn civilatation ( or kingdom as people say) where all alicorns are born but when grogar ruled before he was banished that civilatation was destroy by some evil forse from grogar or the war between alicorns and drequanaquis (discord's kind) leaving only the king and queen's living imortal alicorn daughters : celestia and luna and when equestria was found the ponys of all three tribes found celestia and luna and they thought they were gifted to become alicorns. And if you see at the scene in the ending of mlp make your mark standing besides the new evil alicorn is an unnamed unicorn . So I think that this alicorn civilatation no longer exist and when the new alicorn villain said "to take back what was mine" was refering to sunny's alicorn magic to take it and the unity cristals so she can conquer the whole world and the reason she is an alicorn is that she use some dark magic to look like an alicorn but not having the magic of the alicorn (like sunset shimmer but this time she became an alicorn but not having the magic of the alicorn)

But what about Sunset Shimmer? Yes, she was in the human world, but in 3 movie, she had same light wings and horn as Sunny. And it both was temporarily, not fot all time.

i have a question if the pony becomes alicorn they become royalty but pip and zip and there mother are royalty but aren't alicorns so how does that make sense?

IDK i think that mystery pony IS a grown up FLURRY HEART that's been Correpted