Which gas to use in a caravan or motorhome?

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The Trudgians

The Trudgians

2 жыл бұрын

Gas is an integral part of running a modern caravan, but there is a choice on which gas type to use. In this video I will go through each of the gas types available, their pros and cons and ultimately explain how you can use either in a caravan or motorhome.
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@garydavis1528
@garydavis1528 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve always used propane having no issues in hot and definitely never in cold weather, you know it will work whatever. (We have in the past had a bottle lasted us for 11 years!)
@TicketyBoo.
@TicketyBoo. Жыл бұрын
As always, great vlog Dan. After the recent shortage of Calor refils and the hike in prices, I invested in a couple of 7.5Kg Safefill bottles used mainly for the fridge and to boost the heating from cold. A bit of outlay yes but long-term these are proving much more economical, simply top up before travelling as opposed to trading in a still quarter full Calor bottle. Empty to full refill costs around £10. I still have the gas cooker but I also bought a two ring electric induction hob (under £100) that has been nothing short of fantastic. Instant heat control and never gets hot to the touch. It can even be used outside as it's not affected by wind. Ticks away in the cupboard when not needed.
@skip9thdoncaster135
@skip9thdoncaster135 2 жыл бұрын
We use propane in our caravan. Have had the same bottle for 3 years now and plenty still in it! I’m totally gobsmacked by that! We tend to use the electric hob for getting pans up to temperature, then transfer to gas. In summer we tend to use our Cadac, powered by Camping Gaz (large cylinder) and cook the potatoes on the electric hob. Electric for heating and hot water too.
@paulefc1971
@paulefc1971 2 жыл бұрын
We use propane in the caravan, we also have a campingaz 907 bottle in the gas locker that we use for outdoor cooking, due to not being able to get propane in France we also have a spare pigtail for the campingaz 907 so we can use that in France on the caravan if the propane runs out, the 907 cylinder is also a lot cheaper in France as well
@nikkiclarke4417
@nikkiclarke4417 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, just recently bought a caravan and have to say your videos are extremely helpful. Thank you for sharing.
@BessiesTravels
@BessiesTravels 2 жыл бұрын
Newcomers will appreciate this video as it really describes things in easy to understand terms. We use Butane as we generally get away in the warmer months but have had a few chilly days and it’s work ok.
@Ronin6069
@Ronin6069 2 жыл бұрын
We use propane all year round. never forget we had butane in our long gone motorhome and went away in February. It was brass outside and the gas would not vaporize. No heating. Ended up with an ear bashing from err indoors. Luckily, managed to swapped out both butane bottles for propane and was lucky to get a propane regulator to replace the butane one, from a nearby caravan accessory shop. Result, a very very toasty motorhome and more importantly, no more ear bashing which is always nice. 🙂Since then, we've always had propane. Btw, I quite like the Cadac quick release coupling and the Cadac power pack adapter. Got those on my order list now. Thanks Dan. Another informative vid. Cheers fella.
@rhinogooner
@rhinogooner 2 жыл бұрын
We go off grid and I carry two 7kg butane bottles to run fridge, water, heating etc: I have just fit an auto changeover regulator in case it runs out over night for the fridge. Just minor correction you buy a Camping Gaz bottle outright and then just pay for the refill. I use a Calor and a Flogas bottle and if anyone else gets a chance to buy a Flogas you want the yellow one because this takes the 21 mm clip on reg same as calor whereas the blue Flogas is only 20mm. Hope this info is useful to someone.
@HelenandDave
@HelenandDave 2 жыл бұрын
Great vlog Dan, found that educational. We use propane too and at about the same rate as you. We cook outside as much as possible using a blend of electric and gas stoves mainly to keep smells out of the van and it's more fun, proper camping. Cheers, Helen & Dave
@supadupajpr
@supadupajpr 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, thank you for all your content over the years. We’ve just bought our first caravan and have been researching everywhere for a video or advice about which gas to use. Your video was incredibly informative and helped us (finally) make our decision on our maiden voyage.
@user-rq8cj1bd5r
@user-rq8cj1bd5r 7 ай бұрын
Another great video Dan thank you! The content has joined all of the others in the first trip and shopping list document.
@CaravanVlogger
@CaravanVlogger 2 жыл бұрын
We use flogas Gaslight bottles. Gave up on hefty Calor some time back. We too have issues with places to fill safefill bottles, although I do like it as a solution (except the amount you have to outlay to buy the bottles in the first place, of course). Thanks for sharing..
@maino9752
@maino9752 2 жыл бұрын
Propane for us. Spring - Autumn caravanning and has been ok. Love a Friday Trudgian video!!
@robentwistle10
@robentwistle10 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Dan, very useful info
@andrewlightfoot1830
@andrewlightfoot1830 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Dan, well explained. We tend to do a lot of rallying and therefore use gas our prime fuel. We invested in a safe fill bottle, which has been brilliant and saved alot of money.
@MrsBuzby
@MrsBuzby 2 жыл бұрын
Another great, informative video. As a soon to be vanner I’m finding your channel full of vital info. Thank you 😊
@TheTrudgians
@TheTrudgians 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@paulskinner7113
@paulskinner7113 2 жыл бұрын
hi Dan i do a lot of green field camping and rely on gas all the time, we have got two SAFEFILL bottles, which work really well. they have saved me a fortune. I would recommend SAFEFILL bottle, as you said the initial outlay is dear, but refill is cheap depending on what garage you go to, EXAMPLE 14ltrs = 7/12 kgs £ 9.50 colour gas equivariant £25. bottles come 5kgs 7.5kgs 10kgs
@MacSarah
@MacSarah 2 жыл бұрын
Really helpful thank you. We pick up our first caravan this weekend and have been wondering about gas choice, so that's for the comprehensive low down! New subscribers 👍🏼
@ronsattin2869
@ronsattin2869 2 жыл бұрын
That was very informative and a pleasure to watch.
@colinrimmer789
@colinrimmer789 2 жыл бұрын
Exceptional video Dan, one that’s taken a lot of preparation and research, a thumbs up and comment is hardly compensation for your efforts. Great video for newcomers 😁👍
@TheTrudgians
@TheTrudgians 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated Colin, thank you!
@mwffoto7698
@mwffoto7698 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid Thankyou. Love the chemistry element. My father in law always swears by campingaz for BBQs etc as it’s readily available on the continent. Watched your gas level video yesterday too so I’m all gassed out 😂👍🏻👏🏻
@breeze1472
@breeze1472 4 ай бұрын
Very helpfull advice once again thanks
@srolyatman
@srolyatman 2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting video Dan. We enjoy off grid holidays & being retired, usually get 50+ nights away, all year round. We also have Cadac options available but, always connect directly to the van. Therefore, 1 large Safefill gas bottle provides all our needs. We save space, weight, and have had no problems topping up wherever we are staying. You just have to check availability locally! if I remember correctly, you have indicated in the past that you intend to do more off grid camping too. Safefill therefore, is an excellent addition to UK caravanning !
@caravanningmacs8009
@caravanningmacs8009 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan. Informative and helpful vlog as ever. Lots of good info whether viewers are experienced or not. Thanks again. George and Trish
@totaltouring829
@totaltouring829 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very intuitive vlog. One of your best.
@TheTrudgians
@TheTrudgians 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@caravaningincarathevan467
@caravaningincarathevan467 2 жыл бұрын
I use propane in cara. I used 2 6kg bottles a year as I camp with out hookup alot. and Cara only has gas heating in winter. I find it very efficient I have lots of stockist around me so I haven't found it hard to get bottles. I also have no LPG stations near me so that wasn't an option. xx stay safe xx
@gregorydobson4307
@gregorydobson4307 4 ай бұрын
Great info and glad i found your channel.😊
@TheTrudgians
@TheTrudgians 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@julianwhiting6358
@julianwhiting6358 2 жыл бұрын
We have 2 safe fill bottles. Doing festivals uses much more gas and I like being able to see the liquid level through the bottle. We top them both up in winter ready for the new season.
@full_time_motorhome
@full_time_motorhome 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Planning on full time vanlife in the next 2.5 yrs. Seems dumb but I didn't realise flogas and calorgas weren't interchangeable at the retailer. Still remember the gas lanterns going out late at night in our caravan in the 70s and having to change the bottle. I assume they don't use asbestos gause lights anymore! Hope you are feeling well. Very useful thanks.
@TheTurnersOnline
@TheTurnersOnline 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for another informative vlog. We use Calor propane ( the bottles came with the van we bought 2nd hand). Have looked into swapping for the gaslight as I like the idea of lighters bottles and being able to see how much liquid gas is in the container. Initial cost is quite high though.
@TheTrudgians
@TheTrudgians 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@percyprod6574
@percyprod6574 2 жыл бұрын
When we bought our caravan a couple of years ago I got a Calor gas 6kg Propane bottle as it is the popular choice from our caravan dealer. I then was offered a 7kg butane Flogas bottle which was full for a good price. Unfortunately, it was only later I found the fittings were different on the two brands. However, I found that the Flogas propane cylinder has the same fitting as Calor, so I contacted flogas and they said I could exchange the butane bottle for a propane one. The big surprise though was the free delivery buying it direct. A 7 ton lorry dropped it off, having travelled from Carlisle to Dalton, just for little old me, a distance of over 80 miles! Good service!
@alanpostma5861
@alanpostma5861 2 жыл бұрын
We used propane I got 2 bottle 1 for the caravan and 1 for the cadac if 1 runs out I can just swap them over 👍
@mikeclifton7778
@mikeclifton7778 2 жыл бұрын
We use Propane in our caravan and a bottle lasts us several years as we generally heat the room and water on electric hookup. This might change if metered EHUs get introduced.We have a 'day van' for day trips and caravan towing duties, we have Campingaz in that as the 907 is considerably smaller than the smallest Propane or Butane Calor bottle. Never had any problems with weather affecting performance. Good information there Dan, off to check my connection hose isn't out of date in a bit!
@andredowse394
@andredowse394 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, this was some useful information, especially as I'm struggling to get my now two empty 6kg Calor propane bottles re-filled!!! I'm considering an alternative.
@paulrobinson6501
@paulrobinson6501 2 жыл бұрын
We now use safefill gas bottles which after the initial outlay save us a lot of money in UK (at least £16 on 6Kg propane). We also travel IN EU a lot and these bottles save carrying lots of different gas for different countries. We only use our appliances on gas and have 2x 100 watt solar panels on roof, this saves an additional £2 - £6 per night on site fees. With electricity going up the way it is, site fees are likely to rocket up. So I think getting a good balance of gas and solar use is the way to go. Great informative video as usual, thanks. I think of all the people that do informative videos like you, yours are by far the best and easiest to understand, excellent.
@janscott3031
@janscott3031 2 жыл бұрын
Dan, another interesting video. However, may I just mention that stainless steel braded hose type pigtails are also available, (I have one) and do not have the 5 year life put on them the same as the normal rubber ones. They are a bit more expensive I agree but outweigh the cost by lasting longer.
@emyrbrown
@emyrbrown 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan thanks for another great and very informative vlog👍🏻 It's great to see you back on top form👍🏻 We mainly use electricity whilst on sites for both heating and cooking and tend use very little gas. We just use gas for cooking inside very rarely as we've got a vango scran (electric hot plate) that we use outside the van (it's amazing, cooks evenly and a dream to clean, i can highly recommend it!), and we use gas on initial heating during winter to get up-to heat quicker but quickly switch to electric only. Plus on the very rare occasion that we've been off grid plus if the electric has failed on site for a few hours to keep the fridge cool. So our gas bottle has lasted 3 years so far🤞🏻Having said that it will probably need changing this season, it would help if I had a gas level checker can you recommend one please? Thanks Regards Emyr.
@brianharvey8675
@brianharvey8675 2 жыл бұрын
HI Dan Another informative video. Some newcomers might need to know how to change bottles safely. We use electric for much of the cooking and gas for the Cadac. Have never in 10 years used Gas for heating, Fridge, hot water as we always pay for a hook up. When in France for a month we have never used our 6KG up, so have not had to convert to their local type.
@TheTrudgians
@TheTrudgians 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, I have a video that covers how to replace Gas bottles already (one of our very 1st videos i think) - thats good to hear about your usage whilst in France. Take care Dan
@richardhaigh7852
@richardhaigh7852 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your help very good advice we run on propane top video once again please keep doing that
@DJMarshy
@DJMarshy 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👊👊👊
@busterboy7505
@busterboy7505 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan very helpful, 👍.
@Bunce1949
@Bunce1949 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Dan. We currently carry two Calorlite 6kg Propane cylinders on board our caravan, but as Calor have ceased prodution of these, it is impossible in Norfolk to get a refill. I live 10 minutes away from the main Norwich Calor Gas Depot, and 90% of all sizes of bottles including the all metal 6kg bottles have been out of stock for months! When my final Calorlite bottle gets low, I'm going to switch to Gaslight Propane 5kg bottles available from all Homebase stores. (Gaslight appears to be the same as Flogas with the same lightweight see through cylinders.) A simple switch to a 27mm clip on pigtail will sort the connection, although I will have to pay a deposit (like Calor) for the initial purchase of the Gaslight cylinder. My local Homebase (ironically on the same industrial estate as the Calor Depot), has 20 bottles in stock, and 64 bottles are available within an 11 mile radius of my home. With two Gaslight cylinders on board I will be carrying 10kg of gas instead of 12kg with the Calorlite, but there will be a nose weight saving as well, as Gaslight bottles are much lighter. (10kg Gaslight is available, but would be overkill for our needs) Like you we don't use a lot of gas, so the convenience of easily getting a refill locally is a huge bonus. Calor Gas at the moment are next to useless in my area!
@henryclayton9050
@henryclayton9050 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan. Useful video, but I feel I must comment. Both Butane and Propane do not produce significant amounts of Carbon Monoxide when burning with a sufficient amount of Oxygen. Both gases will produce Monoxide if given insufficient Oxygen. Carbon Monoxide is lighter than air and so low level vents are important, but CO will not flow out that way. CO alarms are essential, placed high up, of course. Both gases are equally efficient at warmer temperatures (no idea why Propane should be less efficient in warmer conditions). One major difference between the two gases is that in a less than perfect gas unit Butane is much more likely to produce a Yellow sooty flame. Actually Propane contains slightly more energy than Butane per KILO.
@anthonyphillips8728
@anthonyphillips8728 2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough looking to get my The 6kg Calor Lite exchanged at the moment. Several places have them at the moment.
@durhamcaravaners
@durhamcaravaners 2 жыл бұрын
Good info Dan , cheers mate. We like you , use propane all yr round. Dave.
@caravantuggers1608
@caravantuggers1608 2 жыл бұрын
Starting to use far less gas since we feel if were paying for electric in the site fees we utilise it to its max. With regards to cooking were now looking at using a multi-cooker and fairly soon will be investing in a 2 ring induction hob portable.. Be interesting to see you do a video on such a device Dan as to how much energy it uses and the speed of cooking compared to gas hob cooking. As always really good to see you getting back into the swing of things with videos as you have been missed
@TheTrudgians
@TheTrudgians 2 жыл бұрын
thank you, thats very kind. I in fact replaced our gas bottle this weekend. Originally i thought it was a 2020 vintage - but in fact its 2019!!! wow.
@hairywol
@hairywol Жыл бұрын
Very informative vlog. I'm wondering if a heavy user might swap gasses summer/winter, but like you a 6Kg propane lasts me a year. When cooking we use the electric hob ring as much as possible and keep heating/water on EHU as well, except for an initial warm-up in winter. Like you we caravan all-year round - I don't really get how people lay their caravans up half the year, I suspect these are the ones that get damp and other problems.
@andrewphillips9027
@andrewphillips9027 2 жыл бұрын
I do have a safefill bottle and am lucky that there is a garage that sells lpg. It is a big problem and the only retailer is Morrison supermarket LPG stations that have an agreement to allow you to fill them. However Morrisons fuel stations have been sold a week or two so that agreement might be withdrawn. It's becoming harder and harder to find places to fill them. They also are very difficult to fill abroad and have to be very cheeky when filling them up. You also need an adaptor for different EU countries. This can be bought separately to the bottles. It's a large outlay to purchase and with less and less places to get them filled it's a difficult to say if it's a good direction to go to. Thanks Dan
@richardowen2159
@richardowen2159 2 жыл бұрын
We are lovers of propane too. Have a refill bottle,and use all year. In winter we can leave heater on all day,great! Bottle is opaque,so you can see 'gas' level,and can top up even when half full. Love it,so light too,even when full,my good lady can pick it up no prob....which is handy...
@richardowen2159
@richardowen2159 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe redo the vlog on tyre pressures,that was really interesting,and there may be a lot of newbees,who are not sure what they are. I had two blowouts due to underinflation,didnt expect the pressure to be that high. 😃
@denisederbyshire1957
@denisederbyshire1957 2 жыл бұрын
On our first ever caravan trip we spent about 2 hours trying to connect the propane bottle and then something pinged in my head to say try and screw it on anti clockwise 🔄 hey presto it worked 😂👍🏻
@ianpattinson6744
@ianpattinson6744 2 жыл бұрын
As having a seasonal pitch elec is my primary source
@chrisbailey9308
@chrisbailey9308 2 жыл бұрын
We can only get blue bottles here which is crazy as we get -20 or so in winter. Bottles literally always freeze up and we wake up nearly frozen in winter. I think gasbank or similar would make more sense as I’m guessing they change the “winter mix” for road fuel. Do you use refillable bottles?
@kennethwebb4385
@kennethwebb4385 7 ай бұрын
Hi Dan Can you do a review on tyre monitoring system for caravans
@TheTrudgians
@TheTrudgians 7 ай бұрын
Sure, i already have. Search for "TyrePal TPMS" on our videos. there are a couple, one from our first set up and another long term review. Hope that helps
@ianbruce6635
@ianbruce6635 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. Food for thought..... Ian [Edinburgh] 👍
@leighjohnson6185
@leighjohnson6185 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I have always used propane on the belief it burned hotter! You showed a glimpse of a level monitor, do you have the details please?
@TheTrudgians
@TheTrudgians 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Leigh, now prepare yourself - the level check isnt cheap... I hope youre sitting down for this... amzn.to/3J5XDFg
@daveandow2809
@daveandow2809 2 жыл бұрын
Always use propane, Same as you a bottle a year, Calor Lite., Use to go off grid, a fare bit, but now-a-days stick too EHU
@irene1770
@irene1770 2 жыл бұрын
With the rising prices , would you say it’s cheaper to run caravan on gas or electric , we are seasonal on a electric meter
@johnmillard9725
@johnmillard9725 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan You can but a stainless Pigtail with a life span of 20 years
@mikeclifton7778
@mikeclifton7778 2 жыл бұрын
You've just answered my question about how long stainless hoses last, thanks.
@davezeraschi7936
@davezeraschi7936 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan 👋 does the fridge cool down quicker on gas rather than hook up? Cheers for your reply I’ll look forward to it 👍
@TheTrudgians
@TheTrudgians 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, yes the Fridge gets colder alot quicker on Gas - its also the same for heating - it heats quicker on Gas too. We have our heating / hot water on MIX2 which uses gas to get it started then switches to electric to keep it warm.
@davezeraschi7936
@davezeraschi7936 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTrudgians cheers off to van tomorrow so will try this out, great timing on reply 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@chriscousins3129
@chriscousins3129 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, how do you tell when the gas bottle is nearly empty? Thanks
@maino9752
@maino9752 2 жыл бұрын
We use propane, still on the same bottle after 3 years - approx 90 days of caravanning.
@Warrior6504
@Warrior6504 2 жыл бұрын
Just can’t get Calor 6kg propane where I live at all so I’ve gone back to gaslight that I can get 3 miles away anytime of the year.
@MD-gc4xq
@MD-gc4xq 2 жыл бұрын
Only ever used our propane on the cooker and bbq, but with our electricity going up from 20p to 42p per unit we will be using it a lot more i think
@davecook3138
@davecook3138 2 жыл бұрын
Assuming you can get a refill for your gas cylinders. I see that the gas suppliers are maintaining their self imposed shortage.
@TheTrudgians
@TheTrudgians 2 жыл бұрын
I managed to pick up a new bottle this week - no issues, even got a Calor Lite😐 I was expecting a price increase - but £28 was the price.
@davecook3138
@davecook3138 2 жыл бұрын
We live in East Anglia and everywhere we go, there is no gas. Fortunately, we don't need any at the moment, but it is worrying for when we will need a refil.
@PapaTube-ep1nk
@PapaTube-ep1nk 2 жыл бұрын
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@paul_my_plumbs_uk
@paul_my_plumbs_uk 2 жыл бұрын
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