12 at Augusta, that’s not even a debate!

They need to retroactively uninvite Rick from his round for forgetting Rae's Creek

SG 17 by far

Saw you at the par three contest today. 👍🏼

For an 18 handicap, I’d say #17 is harder. I can spray the ball left, right, chunk, or thin, and they’re all wet. For a good golfer, #12 is the easy answer imo. The short distance from front to back with unpredictable winds just makes it a hard one to hit. On the shorter of the two courses that I mainly play, they have a few greens shaped like #12, and those are rarely GIRs for me. One of those holes is an average length par 4 and it’s stroke index 1 all because it’s so hard to stick the green in two.

Have you guys played at Pikewood national in WV? It's my favorite course in my home state, ranked 30th in the US I believe. Man some of the holes have the most beautiful view. Especially if you go in the fall when the leaves are changing colors. Maybe you've heard of "Audacity" the 8th hole there, it gets a lot of praise.

12 is a more challenging hole by far. The Masters' pressure is 5X of TPC.

I've played both holes in video games , Sawgrass is definitely easier 😂 . I don't have enough money or clout to become a member at Augusta , and certainly not paying $900 at Sawgrass for 18 holes of golf .

17 at Sawgrass. I know I'll be able to play Sawgrass. 😅 I generally struggle with forced carries, so yea.

12 is a more difficult shot. There is only 1 place to miss on a green that's WAY smaller than the 17th. There's a lot of videos talking about the crazy design of that hole and how it lures you into thinking you can just fade it in there but ANY slight miss and you're absolutely F'd.

17.

Now this isn’t even hard. Sawgrass green complex is like triple the size of Augusta’s 12th. And probably has 4-5 times the depth that the 12th has. You have like a 15 foot green in depth on number 12 and there’s no room for error. The wind is interesting though because while the 12th becomes difficult to judge with the surrounding trees the 17th at tpc is very exposed and can have some very gusty swirly winds that can make the hole possibly play harder but I still think it’s 12 at Augusta by a good margin. The real question should be which hole is more famous? Tpc scoring average lifetime is 3.17 and Augusta’s 12 is 3.27.

Also you didn't mention the difficulty judging the wind at 12. The ultimate deciding factor in hitter an 8 or a 9 iron. But I don't think you answered the question?

What's the name of the creek? What a couple of out of towners. Over here we all know the name of the bridge on 18 at St. ANDREWS. 😅

12 is way harder. It’s super narrow front to back and you need a ton of precision. Sawgrass’s green is massive, it’s like 30 yards front to back so you’ve got at least 3 clubs you could play, plus you can simply play to the middle of the green and a slight mishit is still on

Mike Weir first lefty to win Masters

I'd say 17th at Sawgrass, you could chunk it short of 12 and be hitting 2 and not hit 3 at 17

If you had to make par or better 17 is the better choice. If you had to make no worse than bogey, 12 is the better choice.

In theory there average golfer can afford 900 quid per round