WHICH IS FASTER ! - SS396 Camaro or 455 HO Trans AM - Drag Race

WHICH IS FASTER ! - SS396 Camaro or 455 HO Trans AM - Drag Race - RoadTestTV

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WHO WINS? - 1971 455 HO Trans Am vs 1970 Camaro SS 396 L78 ??
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A 1971 Pontiac Trans and a 1970 Camaro SS396 go head to head in a quarter mile drag race. Pontiac vs Chevrolet, so who wins?
Both cars are competing in the Pure Stock Drags, so modifications are limited. The only modifications permitted are minor porting, blue printing and minor weight reduction without altering the stock appearance. That means stock intake manifold, stock exhaust manifolds and street tires.
The 1971 Trans AM in the video is powered by Pontiac's potent 455 HO (High Output) (7.5L) which was rated at 335 horsepower and 480 lb-ft of torque. The 455 HO was produced as emission controls were starting to be incorporated into cars and compression ratios were falling. Despite the reduced horsepower rating, the 455 HO was one of the strongest motors to come out of the Pontiac division. The 1970 Camaro SS 396 in the other lane is super rare as only 600 L78 Camaro's were built in 1970. The rare SS396 Camaro is powered by Chevy's potent, solid lifter, high winding big block 396 cubic inch (6.5 L) RPO L78 which was rated at 375 horsepower and 415 lb-ft of torque. The L78 is a legend with Chevy Big Block fans.
335 and 375 horsepower doesn't sound like much today; however, in the early 70's, these cars with minor mods were menaces on the street.
The SS396 is equipped with GM's Turbo 400 automatic transmission whereas the 455 HO Trans Am is backed by a 4 speed manual transmission. So WHO WINs?
Watch the video and see what happens.
Comment below - Tell us what you think and which car you'd rather own after watching the video...
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@oliverrojas7117 4 жыл бұрын

From my perspective the 1970 Firebird Trans Am is among the most beautiful Firebirds.

@patrickmichaeldempsey6801 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed from the iwner of a 98" Ls1

@carmineredd1198 2 жыл бұрын

1972 has honeycomb grille

@yamahaguy1732 9 ай бұрын

@@patrickmichaeldempsey6801I daily a 00 ws6 6 speed but man what I would do to have one of these or a 77 T/A😩

@camirocz 9 ай бұрын

@@yamahaguy1732 It s a 72 nota 77.

@yamahaguy1732 9 ай бұрын

@@camirocz read my comment again.

@72slayer72 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the SS got his tires warmed up

@roadtesttv 4 жыл бұрын

Just a little .... lol

@rhpicayune 4 жыл бұрын

Legend has it his rear tires are still smoking....

@robertelmo7736 4 жыл бұрын

I know, I think he got second in the burnout contest, the winner popped his tires though.

@santiagoakatsu8098 4 жыл бұрын

@@roadtesttv Try running a stock Redeye without drag radials and a good driver,just to see if it does the claimed 10.8@131mph 1/4 mile

@zaknefain100 4 жыл бұрын

He might watch a little too much John Force.

@jacksrandomadventures2769 4 жыл бұрын

which would you rather have? .. id go for the pontiac

@patrickmichaeldempsey6801 3 жыл бұрын

Same here. I I always liked the 69" Camaros the best and 70" is my favorite of the Trans ams

@bluesman7475 2 жыл бұрын

Trans am all the way.

@duanenicpon8024 Жыл бұрын

I'll take an HO or sdta any day

@milojanis4901 4 жыл бұрын

WOW, that Camaro probably put on at least 50,000 miles of tire wear in one burnout!!

@1gbayfisher 2 жыл бұрын

So unnecessary

@handymatt1970 6 ай бұрын

ego burnout

@burtvincent1278 3 жыл бұрын

Hope the Camaro driver owns a tire store.

@larencegagland506 4 жыл бұрын

I had a 71 455HO, auto- damn thing had a 308 gear, 373 made it come alive!

@xphnd 4 жыл бұрын

agreed the gears get it moving - had 3.23s in my auto 455ho gto but we didn't have overdrive auto transmissions back in the day

@tjclt250r 4 жыл бұрын

I had a 70 400 4speed gto with 3.90 gear it get to 100 quick but it was terrible on the highway

@carmineredd1198 2 жыл бұрын

2.56 top speed 290.8 mph bonneville flats

@handymatt1970 6 ай бұрын

uh huh 72 455ho ta owner here 3.42s made it the all-around beast

@SealofPerfection 4 жыл бұрын

I would expect that if both were original, factory stock, the T/A would win fairly easily. But in this series, it's all about that "tweaking", so both are very fast. And I bet the tires on the Camaro are STILL sticky today, lol

@camirocz 9 ай бұрын

Not so sure the t/a would beat a big block Camaro if bothe were stock . 455h.o is a low 14 second car and the 69 396 Camaro would esily break into the 13s

@SealofPerfection 9 ай бұрын

@@camirocz apples to oranges. The second generation f-body was considerably heavier

@camirocz 9 ай бұрын

@@SealofPerfection What apples to oranges? You re the one saying the trans am would win.

@SealofPerfection 9 ай бұрын

@@camirocz you were just talking about a 69 Camaro. That is a completely different body style and it is lighter than the second generation. The two cars in this video are second-generation. That's why it's apples to oranges. A big block 70 Camaro sure as hell wouldn't break into the 13's. You couldn't even get the same 396 in 70 that you could in 69. Apples to oranges. It's not even remotely a good comparison

@willpowers4762 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful cars, I love both of them !

@John1Brady 4 жыл бұрын

Basically identical ETs and MPHs. Would love to see the full slips. This was a reaction time race.

@John1Brady 4 жыл бұрын

Also, is this stock appearing racing? or, factory stock? Even factory stock allows increase in compression, "blueprint" cams, 2.5" mandrel exhaust, etc. I doubt either of these cars or any of their kin ran 13.1 @ 106mph or anything close in true showroom stock condition.

@beaumontracer1640 4 жыл бұрын

Camaro had an .008 reaction, TA was .250.

@patrickmichaeldempsey6801 3 жыл бұрын

@@John1Brady That L 78 was probably a low 13:40s car off the floor. And the Poncho 13:70s. Of course you know gears play a big part in those Supercars

@pauls.3400 4 жыл бұрын

I used to heat up the rear tire on my Schwinn Stingray bike just before doing my paperoute exactly like these guys do...

@tierone4761 4 жыл бұрын

Right, we did that along with using a clothes pin & a piece of cardboard to hit the spokes on the rear wheel, it made a cool sound. Schwinn Stingray with the Bannana seat. Good Day to You!

@pauls.3400 4 жыл бұрын

@@tierone4761 me and my friend used to hunt frogs with our BB guns. 1 day he's behind me riding home and shoots my fender, putting a small dent in it & thinks it's funny. The very next day we're riding home again but I'm behind him. Shot him right in the back of the head 🤕😂 he fell right over and while laying there crying I stand over him like an umpire at second base "you think that's funny too?"

@centermass4962 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao. Thats good man just choked on my dr pepper.

@xxbonrockxx 4 жыл бұрын

Us: Aaaaah...... those were the times.... 😌 Millennials: What's a Schwinn?

@thegreenerthemeaner 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry guys, had a Purple Crate with the cheater slick back tire. Only bicycle I ever had. Got when I was 7. Worth something today.

@johnnyturbo8460 3 жыл бұрын

The Pontiac driver was sleeping at the light but that 455HO put in work and drove around the Chevy at the big end. Well done

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

Camaro was ahead by 2 car lengths and had the win light on. Pontiac lost.....😂

@johnnyturbo8460 3 жыл бұрын

@@will7its go Pontiac!

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyturbo8460 Good for picking up hookers and cocaine.........😋

@Lucille69caddy 3 жыл бұрын

@@will7its Pontiac had a 13.11 compared to 13.16 for the Chevy. Even late outta the hole, the 455 too it on the top end. Both cars are awesome, but these are the facts.

@herman452 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lucille69caddy God damn, you guys have no clue. No, the Pontiac didn't drive around the Chevy at the big end. He was gaining on him, but couldn't catch him by the end of the quarter. Camaro WON - and he won BECAUSE the Pontiac slept at the light. And NO, just because the Pontiac had a slightly better ET doesn't mean he caught him. Each car has separate timer clocks, and each clock only starts when its car leaves the timing beam at the starting line. Late start won't affect your ET, but it may well mean that you lose a race you should have won, which is what happened here.

@MrAristes 4 жыл бұрын

Great cars! The 455 HO is little known and often underrated. The L78 is legendary. Thanks for the video!

@xphnd 4 жыл бұрын

had the engine in my 1970 GTO 455cid way back in '77

@timcoffin2790 3 жыл бұрын

@@xphnd The 1970 version that was available in the GTO but not available in the 1970 TA was a high compression D port engine. The 71 -72 455 HO was a low compression round port engine. Would be a great race to pit those two versions of the 455HO against each other. Airflow vs Compression. My bet is the 70 is quicker and the 71-72 is faster. Bottom end vs Top end battle.

@bowlsem7 4 жыл бұрын

Love the early early model Firebirds.

@JohnBoy 4 жыл бұрын

I had a 79 Trans-Am with a 400 Pontiac & factory 4 speed with the WS6 handling package. In 1992, I raced a 91 Factory Turbocharged Thunderbird. We ran a quarter mile .... the Thunderbird jumped me 7 car lengths out of the hole, but I beat him by 12 car lengths at the finish line. My Trans-Am didn't start reeling him in until I hit 3rd gear.

@ztwntyn8 11 ай бұрын

Torque of the Pontiac starts to shine in 3rd

@chadrivers1815 6 ай бұрын

wow all that with 220 hp lol

@TheMrmmkkpro 4 жыл бұрын

Both are badass, being a Pontiac guy, gotta go with the bird. I own a 1972 455 H.O. 1970 was the first year for the 455, smog regulations killed power, my 7f6 round port heads are 111 or 114 cc, can't remember, but I have a set of 30 over trw L2394 pistons to help compression, it's a cool ole engine.

@alanbiagini3016 4 жыл бұрын

1971 was the first year for the 455 in a TA. 1970 was late for production and you had a choice from 2 different 400’s.

@tomcherry7029 3 жыл бұрын

The 455 H.O. came out in 1970 as a replace for the 428H.O. , did not come out in the Trans am until 1971, the 400 RAIII 360 hp (under rated) and the 400 RAIV 370hp (under rated ) were in the 1970 Trans ams.

@TheMrmmkkpro 3 жыл бұрын

@@tomcherry7029 HI Tom, yea I been racing Pontiacs since the late 70s, I buy parts whenever I find them, I recently found a 455 date code August 1969, stuff is getting harder and harder to find.

@tomcherry7029 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMrmmkkpro an August 1969 casting would be a very early casting of a 455 , since the 455 was a late 1970 release option. The round exhaust port 455HO was designed after the RAIV 400 heads. Most Pontiac performance Engines were under rated by 20%

@TheMrmmkkpro 3 жыл бұрын

@@tomcherry7029 Yes, I have a neighbor doing a 1969 GTO and he was looking at my block, but he said it was to early. I have done a lot of research and can't find out exactly when they began casting those blocks. I paid 500 bucks for it, I think I got a deal, I also have a 1969 400 two bolt main, and several not so special blocks. Things like timing chain covers, valley pans even good heads are getting scarce. My dad bought my 455HO back in 1973, the guy parted out the T/A to pay for college. I bought it from my mom after he passed in 1996. It is a beast, love me some Pontiacs they pull like a train. You can hear it run on my little channel under my name. It's not in the red car anymore, I'm building a 1975 firebird with a 1973 front clip and ram air hood, M-21 4 speed. Have a good one. 👍👍🏁🏁

@paceta80 4 жыл бұрын

Gorgeous Trans Am and much respect to the Camaro.

@herman452 3 жыл бұрын

All you guys who think the T/A won based on its better ET need to look at the win light for the Camaro over the Mr. Gasket sign. Yeah, the Pontiac was slightly faster, but the Camaro driver's better reaction time won the race. Or at least, THIS race. Next one could go the other way.

@camaropitcrew8445 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Some people on here don't quite understand how drag racing works.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

Its those rose colored pontiac glasses they look thru.....

@cababy1296 4 жыл бұрын

So the poor bastard that was staging behind the Camaro had to pull out and go to the pits because his windshield was full of rubber🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@roadtesttv 4 жыл бұрын

Lol 👍

@modernmuscle3658 4 жыл бұрын

Just noticed you recorded these at my local track nice video

@motoman7445 4 жыл бұрын

Um, ok buddy i think the tires are hot.

@roadtesttv 4 жыл бұрын

Lol

@robertraft 3 жыл бұрын

haha

@jamesdulaney6363 4 жыл бұрын

Almost identical trap speeds tells me they are pretty even. Its most likely a drivers/tuner race.

@Matt_Holcomb 4 жыл бұрын

Could be gear ratio trap rpm tire size so on. Not just driver

@Doodlyscott 4 жыл бұрын

@James dulaney,you're right except,1 of them passed the finish line first

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

Pantyscrat had 59 more cubes too.....just sayin.....

@Lucille69caddy 3 жыл бұрын

@@will7its Had much lower compression and lower profile cam as well. Just sayin’.

@Ballenxj 4 жыл бұрын

Both nice, and thumb up for this video.

@davegeisler7802 Жыл бұрын

The SS396 L78 is quick no doubt , but runs out on the big end , not enough torque. The 455 HO doesn't have that problem.

@FrankKnight8846 3 ай бұрын

Camaros, Firebirds and Corvettes where always my favourite cars. ❤❤

@johntempest267 4 жыл бұрын

I would like to see that Camaro go against the 70 T/A powered by the Ram Air IV 400. That, would be an apples to apples showdown. The 71 Camaro wouldn't hang with any of them. I saw a article in a magazine when I was young comparing the 69 L78 SS Camaro vs the RA4 T/A, the Indian came out on top.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

You saw that in a magazine huh?

@thegreenerthemeaner 3 жыл бұрын

Those 2 were not in the same league. The RA IV was more akin to an L72 or LS6, neither of which was as readily available as the RA IV. The RA IV was waaay underrated. I wish someone would dyno these engines to see the REAL numbers, not the fables.

@johntempest267 3 жыл бұрын

@@thegreenerthemeaner Well, one could argue, displacement wise the L72 & LS6 weren't in the same league. Power wise your not far off. I've not seen a RAIV on the dyno, but Holdner dynoed a factory spec a 1963 421 SD got 480hp/510tq. I think the IV was close to the 396's 425hp, like maybe 440-450! Lol

@Lucille69caddy 3 жыл бұрын

@@will7its Troll Pontiac hater, huh? You’re all over this thread bashing the Tin Indian😆

@davegeisler7802 Жыл бұрын

@@thegreenerthemeaner the RA IV still losses out to the mighty 421 SD from earlier in the decade. 421SD dynoed 488 hp from GM engineers. That why even RA IV Goats can't hang with earlier Catalinas 🏁

@plap. Жыл бұрын

The chevy warmed the tires for all the races yet to come

@roadtesttv Жыл бұрын

Lol … thanks for watching !

@shaunjeff45 2 жыл бұрын

People back in the 70s, really believed pony-car of that era was going to be the last production car of any big horse power.

@clevlandblock Жыл бұрын

And we were right, until the late 80s came along

@samspade8612 Жыл бұрын

Nice hole shot by the Camaro! Great heads up race. Both cars are stunning.

@joequillun7790 4 жыл бұрын

What a holeshot the camaro driver pulled on the T/A. Good race.

@patrickmichaeldempsey6801 3 жыл бұрын

I think off the showroom floor in 70" that Chevy takes the Poncho. Those L 78s were fistfighters akways punching above their weigh class. Hella of a race. Could go either way.

@Lucille69caddy 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but it lost on the top end. Pontiac 13.11 to Chevy 13.16.

@dr.detroit1514 4 жыл бұрын

The 455-ho was kind of a happy combination engine. Low compression, under square bore/stroke, cast rods, cast pistons, cast crank, hydraulic lifters, 5200 rpm rev limit, a relatively mild low lift cam, quadrajet carb, and still gave excellent performance on regular gas. I can only speculate on the performance if Pontiac had been able to come out with this engine in 1970, with 10.5/1 compression, a bit more cam, the early 60's style forged 421SD rods, and maybe forged pistons, so it could rev to 5600 rpm. As it was, the one had to upshift gears just as those heads started to really breathe. From what I read somewhere, those round port heads where good for 500hp on a properly prepared 455.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

My grandma had a 427 mystery motor in her caprice and she used to shift at 7500.....

@rickybailey7123 2 жыл бұрын

I've got a customer with A455 built to over a 500 ci with aluminum heads and is Dyno a Lil over 500 horsepower it is out of control to drive I couldn't believe how much tq /power it had when I drove it and I have drove 1000 horsepower cars the torque is insane from the built 455 motor I would not bleave it if someone told me but I drove it and it's nasty !! And let me add I've drove 468 / 502/ 632 ci motors Chevys and the hit down low on the built 455/500 ci tq is not in the same ball field and I'm a Chevy man !!!

@rickybailey7123 2 жыл бұрын

It's a man's name that makes the parts I can't remember what it was but if u are a 455 man u know the Performance part man's name That was all the parts in that engine!!! And the car was a 68 Pontiac Look like the camaros!!

@camirocz 2 жыл бұрын

@@will7its It remains a mystery because it never happened..

@mercmarc 2 жыл бұрын

Mine too! Small world.

@peteragersea377 4 жыл бұрын

Both nice cars I thought the camaro was just trying to burn the tires off but maybe that was the difference

@save16thave 4 жыл бұрын

Hey baby, Me have Trans Am! Best pick up line ever.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

Lounge lizards and coke heads galore....😋

@ExtinctSS 3 жыл бұрын

Hold on let me just do a real quick burnout to warm up these 14" bias plys. *two lord of the rings movies later*

@stephenflowers8516 3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't really matter which one is faster. The T/A is such a nicer car.

@johngialanellajr8650 3 жыл бұрын

Even though the Trans Am has 53 more cubic inches, their is no comparison between the 402 CID semi Hemi and the Pontiac 455. The BB Chevy has many advantages. I used to own a 1970 SS 396 (402 CID 375 HP) L-78. They really were about 425 HP, but Chevrolet down played the HP for insurance purposes.

@lanceschrader5907 2 жыл бұрын

Then why did the Pontiac win?

@davegeisler7802 Жыл бұрын

The L78 was quick out of the hole , but didn't have enough torque and fell flat on the big end and the 455 Trans Am reeled him in

@briansd2772 8 ай бұрын

. Yep. Let's hear it for mid-range torque.

@briansd2772 8 ай бұрын

@@lanceschrader5907 More torque!

@noecker97 4 жыл бұрын

Too Bad That PONCHO Was Late Off The Line, Besides That Their Times Were Neck-and-Neck...

@camirocz 3 жыл бұрын

the clock only starts to count once you leave the line .

@tomcherry7029 3 жыл бұрын

The TA won even being late off the line .

@herman452 3 жыл бұрын

@@tomcherry7029 No, the TA lost. Had a better ET yes, but it got to the finish line later because his reaction time wasn't as good as the Camaro's. Slow reaction time doesn't affect ET at all, but it does get you to the other end later. Camaro left first and managed to stay ahead all the way through the quarter, even if the TA was gaining on him.

@tomcherry7029 3 жыл бұрын

@@herman452 what you dont under stand is you are referring to reaction time of the driver. The trap speed tells the real story of what the car is capable of doing . A better driver in the Trans am and you have a diffrent out come. A high trap speed means the power is there. A slow reaction time is driver not car.

@tomcherry7029 3 жыл бұрын

@@herman452 plus the fact that there was no 396 in 1970 it was in fact a 402 high C.R. engine, the 1972 Pontiac 455HO only had 8.4 to 1 c.r. and still made well over HP even with the chevy being rated at 375hp vs the 300hp in the Pontiac both cars at 3400 lbs without know what gears if would be hard to tell exactly but the 455 with a high trap speed is putting out more HP than the Chevy.

@roypavao7498 7 ай бұрын

The advantage of having a 4 speed manual helped the T/A overtake the Camaro at the end!!

@whitaker2107 4 жыл бұрын

the trans am is a 72 or at least the top end of the motor is you can see on the center exhaust port 7f6 which is 72. A 71 would not have a boss on the center exhaust port they were on the front corner and were 197 . I am just saying

@douglasmesman10 4 жыл бұрын

you are correct, it is a 72'

@happycat0411 Жыл бұрын

Always like the smaller rear spoiler on the second generation Camaros as opposed to the taller and bigger rear spoiler GM came up with a year or two later.....

@69newportking 4 жыл бұрын

The 396 is a beast so under rated

@cababy1296 4 жыл бұрын

Immediately after the race Camaro owner made a beeline to Goodyear Tire store🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@roadtesttv 4 жыл бұрын

No doubt. We were surprised the tire didn’t come apart and beat the side of the car to death. Thanks for watching.

@GearheadRob319 Жыл бұрын

Great burnout from the camaro!

@waylonmccrae3546 29 күн бұрын

The 455 All-Block !! It's strange that Pontiac never made a Big Block !! 🤔

@blankeny 4 жыл бұрын

I've owned one of each but thought the Camaro would win. The T/A with all the bells and whistles just weighs more.

@juniorthird7952 4 жыл бұрын

Will you adopt me so I could drive some sweet rides like you.

@patrickmichaeldempsey6801 3 жыл бұрын

AWESOME ! That chevy took about 2/10th of a hole shot. Poncho still had just enough on the big end.

@blankeny 3 жыл бұрын

@@juniorthird7952 My current vehicle is a 2000 WS6 Ram Air T/A I purchased new and has 50K miles on it.

@mikenagy9408 2 жыл бұрын

Kelly Anne Bishop...Both cars in this video weigh about the same. The engine in the Trans Am alone weighs about 75 pounds less than the Camaros 396 big block.

@blankeny 2 жыл бұрын

@@mikenagy9408 That is correct, but the Trans Am with power windows, locks, AC, power steering, power trunk release, quite possibly cruise control all weigh much more than a stock early S.S.1970's 396 Stripped down Camaro weighs. . .

@minuteman5369 Жыл бұрын

Yess! 455! Always a plus!

@maximumcoverage5591 2 жыл бұрын

That close I'd have to go with which ever car has a 4 sd. At least for the fun factor.

@TotalMishap 4 жыл бұрын

Wow these old cars were so fast for their time. And the style can't even be compared to. Love the new mid engine vette though.

@patrickmichaeldempsey6801 3 жыл бұрын

Probably 4 to 5 tenths faster than off the 1970 showroom floor but yeah fast even today

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

Wish it still had a manual though....

@briancenti5423 4 жыл бұрын

terrible start for the T/A but it still won.

@SealofPerfection 4 жыл бұрын

He was quicker. Still lost the race, but all that means is the other guy had a better reaction time. Says nothing about which one is quicker.

@Lucille69caddy 4 жыл бұрын

Pacfanweb Uhh, the T/A win by .5 tenths.

@herman452 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lucille69caddy Win light went to the Camaro. Best ET doesn't always win. Reaction time is the key here; the Camaro left at least a tenth of a second earlier - enough to outweigh the T/A's 5 hundredths better ET.

@johnnywaddell4278 3 жыл бұрын

@@SealofPerfection He didn't lose camaro red lit, you can see it at the tree and on the board at the end goes from green to red.

@SealofPerfection 3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnywaddell4278 Don't think so. The win light came on for the Camaro as he passed through the lights. If the Camaro had red lighted, the win light would have come on immediately for the T/A and been on the entire race, and we'd have only been waiting for the times and mph. But you can clearly see the win light come on for the Camaro, AS it passed through the traps. So no red light. Plus, you can see the tree when they launch, you'd see the red light. And both were green. Camaro just treed the hell out of the T/A. I suspect the Camaro probably had a .00x reaction, and the T/A was probably .1-.2, as late as he was.

@Darryl6636 4 жыл бұрын

So evenly matched it all came down to the drivers

@johnnywaddell4278 3 жыл бұрын

The Camaro red lit you can see it at the tree and as they pass the timing board at the end goes from green to red.

@vannjunkin8041 3 жыл бұрын

Reckon they got the tires warmed up??

@Cliff00936 4 жыл бұрын

That Camaro should have warmed his tires up more.

@davegeisler7802 2 жыл бұрын

Poncho with the torque reeled in the SS on the big end.

@Mr1T2X1 Жыл бұрын

With a stick shift too.

@Treudyomal 4 жыл бұрын

As the Camaro is doing a burn out there is a Marina Blue '67 Chevelle SS which is from another video of the same exact camaro against that Gorgeous Chevelle. #TeamChevy #ChevyGuy 🔧🏁💪

@roadtesttv 4 жыл бұрын

That’s right. Great eye. That 67 Marina Blue Chevelle SS396 is a beautiful car. Thanks for watching !

@Treudyomal 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome Channel keep up The Outstanding Work 👍👏

@joelalexander5338 3 жыл бұрын

Did the throttle stick during the burnout or what?

@chiefpontiac1800 4 жыл бұрын

Damn, what has that Camaro driver got against tires anyway? Clean ass looking bird!

@psychotrucker9880 4 жыл бұрын

Seen a old 69 Camaro showing out by doing burn outs and blew a tire. It ripped his whole quarter fender to pieces.. The car was perfect until that happened.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

Well, at least you have that memory.....😝

@justme307 Жыл бұрын

"335 and 375 horsepower doesn't sound like much today; however, in the early 70's, these cars with minor mods were menaces on the street." It doesn't, especially when you knock those numbers down to today's SAE Net. Turbo four-bangers are putting out more horsepower today.

@johnnydoubleu3656 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Camaro, we get it..Your car can do a burn out...

@brownwrench 4 жыл бұрын

Quicker is the word to use in a quarter mile test

@toomanyhobbies2011 3 жыл бұрын

Scratch one set of tires. Melting your tires away is just a childish thing to do. ANY muscle car can do that, so it's not like it says anything about the car. A bit surprised at the Firebird's ET and Speed. The boy in the Camaro did a great launch and won with less.

@Gafonzie 4 жыл бұрын

I owned both a 70 formula 400 and a 69 Mustang Mach 1 with a 390, both shreaded every SS 396 I ever ran.

@Lucille69caddy 4 жыл бұрын

Gafonzie I can see a Pontiac 400, especially a RamAir 400 giving a 396 fits, but sorry, no 390 Ford anything can run with a 396, unless it’s the low compression 2 bbl in the station wagon.

@davegeisler7802 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed my 1969 Pontiac GTO 400 RA III ( TH 400 3.55 gears ) never lost to an SS 396 Back in the Day . I love both buy the way 😄

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

Your my hero.....🥰

@wymple09 Жыл бұрын

Evenly matched. About dead even.

@csmith9839 4 жыл бұрын

Just a little side note 70 and A half Camaros weren't available in black.

@1967davethewave 4 жыл бұрын

Seriously? I always wanted a '70 Camaro in black. What year did black become available?

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

Well its 50 years old so, maybe it had a repaint or 2

@minimanadam 4 жыл бұрын

Ok..a little ridiculous on the burn out

@Treudyomal 3 жыл бұрын

Would take that Beautiful 2nd Generation Camaro any day #ChevyGuy #TeamChevy 🏁🛠

@thewizard3770 4 жыл бұрын

Pontiac 455 all the way! F'n camaro jumped! Needed all the help he could get.

@sergiojacquez2277 4 жыл бұрын

He sure did. video don't lie.

@csmith9839 4 жыл бұрын

@@sergiojacquez2277 if the ss jumped where's the red light & no 70 and a half Camaro came in black.

@user-ge2qn6gp4o 4 жыл бұрын

The camaro didn't jump. I am guessing that you have never been on a drag strip with a tree before. Every person and car takes a second from the time you pull your foot off the brake, mash the gas pedal, then the car to react and start to move. Then the time doesn't start, or qualify as a red light until the back of the front tires clear the beam. Figuring out how to time these delays are part of drag racing. Some drivers will stage "shallow" to give them a little more space before they "red light". But it's all part of drag racing. If you Officially leave too soon you will red light.

@camaropitcrew8445 3 жыл бұрын

Nope. Camaro driver outraced the Poncho driver. There was no red light. Camaro wins fair and square.

@kenriccorbett5369 4 жыл бұрын

GREAT run but if that Pontiac had been automatic like the camro way faster but the Pontiac is the faster car anyways so lets goooooooo

@michaelmaskal9295 3 жыл бұрын

What if the camaro had more cubic inches, like the pontiac?

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelmaskal9295 He wont understand....

@MBailey1977 3 жыл бұрын

Bet that SS owner is someone who would ask for more cowbell! 🤣

@jondavis3582 4 жыл бұрын

torque is king

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

Until you go more than a 1/4 mile...

@bryandepaepe5984 4 жыл бұрын

The higher HP would give the Camaro a faster top speed but higher torque on the T/A will give a faster launch and acceleration with equal weight, tires, transmission and rear gear on both.

@camaropitcrew8445 3 жыл бұрын

And you know this...how?

@bryandepaepe5984 3 жыл бұрын

@@camaropitcrew8445 Simple physics and mechanical engineering.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

So why do most drag cars cam for hp over torque?

@bryandepaepe5984 3 жыл бұрын

@@will7its Cause nearing the end of a run means the engine is getting near redline, if the proper gears were used, and also means the car will be nearing it's fastest speed. The power band has different RPM peaks for TQ and HP and balancing the shift points to between those points will have the faster results. The list of factors like weight, bore, stroke, gearing, etc, will vary the needs for where and when delivers power.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

@@bryandepaepe5984 And too much torque will just make you spin the tires unless your car is a total tub.....

@deansapp4635 Жыл бұрын

About 325 hp to the wheels. Not bad

@anhiirr 4 жыл бұрын

i love how the HO sounds all cool and prestigious HIGH output BIG BLOCK gm product in a smaller car. etc. Yet the l78 in the camaro is rarer.......and lower produced. And just an overall cooler package and build across the board. Really wish they made a hipo 400 with "factory aftermarket" head parts.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

@Mark Richards Yeah, its just the size and weight of one......😗

@mikenagy9408 2 жыл бұрын

andola jackson...There is no such thing as a big or small block Pontiac engine.

@scottcoleman162 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty excessive burnouts for 13 second cars lol

@1967davethewave 4 жыл бұрын

The Trans Am had 7F6 heads which are incorrect for a '71. Those are correct for a '72. A '71 would have had 191's. I wonder if the heads are wrong or the year of the car is wrong as Pure Stock Racing is pretty specific about things like that.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

Their all cheating...

@shadvan9494 3 жыл бұрын

That SS396 is a very pretty car. but it is not an L78. Real L78 Camaro's only came with 4speed transmissions in 1970. all 600 cars produced that year were 4 speeds. they did not make an L78 in 1970 with a automatic. also the L78 was way under rated on HP. they rated them at 375HP. in 1965 they rated it at 425HP. never made a change, and the next year it was rerated to 375hp when the 427 390HP ,425HP and 435HP engine came out. they carried it over in to 69 but it get better flowing heads in 69. hot rod magazine did a test on a fully restored 67 L78 396 and it made exactly 425HP. In 1970 the 396 got bored out .030 to 4.124 inch bores. making it a 402 cubic inches but was still sold as the 375HP L78 396. in reality the 1970 L78 402 makes around 430-435HP on the dyno.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

The 69 Z28 was the only car that had a stick mandatory......

@brntcran Жыл бұрын

It would be nice if the TA had a rml air IV

@edwardpate6128 11 ай бұрын

The 455 HO was the follow on to the 400 Ram Air IV and also used the round port heads.

@rhpicayune 3 жыл бұрын

Despite the Poncho’s turtle reaction at the tree, he did a 13.11 vs the Chevy’s 13.16.

@camaropitcrew8445 3 жыл бұрын

Um...you do realize reaction times do not factor in to elapsed times. The Camaro won the race, not the lower et Firebird.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

And its a she......

@jerrycallo 3 жыл бұрын

@@camaropitcrew8445 Yeah, looked that way to me too, but then all these people started chiming in about the T/A winning so I started to wonder. I'm not familiar with their board but when I looked back at it there were 2 lights lit on the left board that were not on the right, so I figured one of those must be the win light. You don't get much tighter on the ET's than what they ran.

@ralphsmallblock4367 11 ай бұрын

It may be that African Americans thought it was a Cadillac but still higher than a chev🤣

@BearGFR 29 күн бұрын

That was all over at the starting line. Pontiac was dead late.

@guardrail2897 3 жыл бұрын

Fast forward to 1:25 for the race.

@sidneybailey9217 4 жыл бұрын

The guy in the firebird drives like a rookie. Fucked up his burnout, and he blew it on the line. Too bad.

@johnnywaddell4278 3 жыл бұрын

You mean the guy in Camaro he red lit as he passes timing board the red light was on his side.

@elebeu 10 ай бұрын

The Camaro needs to try a different compound tire. He ground off 25,000 miles of tread trying hook up.

@GT-Fresh-rp9qr Жыл бұрын

The difference was.the longer burnout, like John Force 😂 Holeshot real sticky better launch.

@psychotrucker9880 4 жыл бұрын

Somebody tell the camaro driver it was unnecessary to smoke the tires that much to get them heated and if a street tire totally unnecessary.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

Street tires need all the help you can give them. And he won and its his/her car so maybe they know what they are doing.

@sharp3552 3 күн бұрын

Why are you showing the Camaro burning out next to a 67 Chevelle?

@NBC_NCO 4 жыл бұрын

Now put the automatic in the TA.

@michaelmaskal9295 3 жыл бұрын

And more cubic inches in the Camaro, right?

@roberthaibi2304 4 жыл бұрын

Lame burnout from TA..camaro does it right

@sergiojacquez2277 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah wake up T/A driver!!!!!

@50buttfish 4 жыл бұрын

30.06 is much faster.

@kenchristensen1244 4 жыл бұрын

We proved something....old cars ain't fast.....real tires would have chopped a half second off each of these probably, though, I'll give em that. Two very cool cars, despite not being 2020 gt500s in the speed dept

@Lucille69caddy 4 жыл бұрын

Ken Christensen Ain’t fast compared to what? These FIFTY year old cars are all engine, carbureted, with points ignition, on bias ply tires, and no computer. 13 sec ET’s out of these old beasts is pretty good. You must be a millennial.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lucille69caddy White priveledge millenial or gen x pretty boy (skinny jeans)

@MidnightinSavannah 4 жыл бұрын

Not bad considering the 396 had a factory rating 11.1 comp and a 520 solid lift cam compared the 455 HO 8.4 comp and small 408 lift cam. I know rules say you can raise the compression a point in a half but the camshaft kills the 455 HO.

@1967davethewave 4 жыл бұрын

The 068 cam is a great grind. I have run 12's with it in more than 1 455. Stock Pontiac heads have very good flow at lower lifts and of course they produce mountains of torque. A buddy of mine tested the 068 vs the 041 in his '71 LeMans wagon and found the E.T.'s were identical but the 041 was about a mile an hour or two faster. His car was running in the 12.70 range at the time. The addition of Rhodes lifters with the 041 cam increased the E.T. by about 3/10ths over the 068 cam. He was running 1.65 rockers on both so that helps the 068 cam some.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

@Mark Richards Torque is for getting fat people and their groceries home to the farm in the next valley.......😁

@waylonmccrae3546 4 жыл бұрын

So , here is the question to ask ..... with all parameters being equal ..... will Cubic Inch out run Horsepower ?? 😒

@ThunderAppeal 4 жыл бұрын

The Camaro had 4.23 gears.

@patrickmichaeldempsey6801 3 жыл бұрын

That Chevy sure could smoke um and looked good coming out of the hole. But that Poncho had just enough on the big end. A Ram air 4 would have probably shut tha Camaro down by a larger margin

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

Camaro won the race.....

@herman452 3 жыл бұрын

@@will7its Yes, yes, yes and yes. Amazing how many people who post here have no clue. Quicker ET doesn't always translate into a win. Camaro had a better reaction time and so a big enough jump off the line that it was able to hold the TA off all the way to the end.

@samsonreynolds3728 4 жыл бұрын

All that show boating to run a slower e.t.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

And she won the race....

@jerryturner3784 7 ай бұрын

Bad reaction time off line t/a should have run high 12s with a good driver

@BAD4U22 4 жыл бұрын

TA all the way

@rjmzz430 4 жыл бұрын

So close who won?

@robertelmo7736 4 жыл бұрын

TA ran quicker but lost at the tree. Camaro trap speed was faster though.

@jrfoster4225 4 жыл бұрын

It comes down to who had the lowest ET. The TA barely won, 13.11 to 13.16 for the Camaro.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

@@jrfoster4225 TA lost, sorry

@johnnywaddell4278 3 жыл бұрын

@@will7its camaro red lit look at his timing board the light goes from green to red.

@evanbarr9270 4 жыл бұрын

Thats a 71 pontiac with 8.4 to 1 comp ,compared to a 70 high comp 11-1 solid lifter moter that needs high octane leaded fuel.The pontiac will run fine on 89 oct. from the pump ,That is amazing to me that the pontiac won especially when the camaro got the jump off the line.

@will7its 3 жыл бұрын

The camaro won....

@evanbarr9270 3 жыл бұрын

the pontiac was 13.11 the chevy was 13.16 ?

@tomcherry7029 Жыл бұрын

OK wrong , the 1970 Camaro 396 was not 396 cid it was a 402 cid.

@edwardpate6128 11 ай бұрын

For marketing purposes it was still called a 396.

@tomcherry7029 11 ай бұрын

@edwardpate6128 most people know that ,most also know that since the Saying of the day was " there is no replacement for displacement " it was more of being to lazy to up date than anything else .