Which is Right? The Church of the Holy Sepulcher or the Garden Tomb

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There are two sites in Jerusalem that both claim to be where Jesus was crucified, buried and rose from the dead: Which is the actual place of those historic events, and how should it affect us? I take a personal look at both The Church of the Holy Sepulcher and the Garden Tomb (also known as Gordon's tomb) and see what we can find out.
A pastor, teacher, and follower of yeshua hamashiach (Jesus Christ), I was raised in a non Christian home and came to accept Christ when I was 19. To say He radically changed my life would be an understatement. In the years since I've grown deeper in my walk and love of God, but I've also realized that there are many who claim to be followers of his who don't seem to show it, or even know what that means. Jesus was incredibly practical, real, and down to earth, and if we actually look at His Word- the Bible- we'll find that God does speak to us today and will help us with current every day issues.
So these are the issues, the moments, the happenings that are burning on my heart and setting it on fire. Thus, the Burning Bush.

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@TheBurningBushbyGeorgeBurnash 7 ай бұрын

This video has been getting a lot of attention and views lately. Thank you for watching. If you would like a much more indepth discussion of that day, what really happened historically, details that we miss due to the passage of time and changes of culture, and a detailed look at both locations and their merits or lack of them, you will likely love the book The Weekend that Changed the World (They Mystery of Jerusalem's Empty Tomb) by Peter Walker. Fantastic book

@Wacholderwald 5 ай бұрын

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ, I want to tell you, with the greatest love and respect, that this Garden Tomb is not the burial place of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It is a symbolic remembrance designated in the 19th century by Evangelical Christians. The Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem is the location of the original tomb. This was the recognized location of his tomb since the First Century, and has always been recognized as such. A church was erected over the tomb in order to protect it, hallow it, and preserve it as the holiest place in Christendom, being the center of the world's conflicts. Every year at Pascha, Easter, the Holy Spirit comes down with flames (which do not burn), just as in Pentecost, inside the tomb. This has been happening since the time of Christ. This your birthright as a believer in Christ: this is your heritage: this is Christ's gift to the world.

@TD402dd Ай бұрын

You can thank Ron Wyatt for cleaning in and around the Garden Tomb to make it what it is today. The city added all of the niceties outside, and boarded the area where Ron's team found the Arc of the Covenant.

@mrs6968 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for covering all of this

@SecretsOfScripture 6 ай бұрын

My heart goes out to all those navigating tough times. May the currents of financial struggles give way to the river of abundance, may health bloom with vitality, and may divine blessings illuminate the path for every soul. 🌷🌈🌟

@luonajgarroutte212 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this wonderful video. It must have been amazing to be there.

@artvandelay19 Жыл бұрын

Great video. I just want to say there is no legitimate question as to where Jesus died and then rose from the dead. The sites were never lost and then found again. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre wasn't built where they thought their "best guess" was, or anything like that. The earliest followers of Jesus - whether you would call them Jews or Christians - venerated those sites, praying and worshipping at them, from the day he died until the year 133. Those sites were sacred to them, just like they are now. Those sites would have been visited daily, just like they are now. In the year 133, Emperor Hadrian, who hated Christians, didn't like the fact that those were holy sites to them. He had those sites filled in and built a temple over them in honor of Aphrodite. The temple was not directly over the sites of Golgotha and the tomb. Those sites were just outside of the temple. He put a statue of Jupiter over the tomb and a statue of Venus over Golgotha. So, it was the temple and two statues just outside of it (it's been a little while, so it's possible that I could be getting these false gods mixed up). The temple stood for about 200 years, but the people didn't forget where the sites were. That kind of thing gets passed down. They knew exactly where they were. In the year 326(?), Emperor Constantine, who legalized Christianity, had the temple torn down. They began excavation of those sites right when the temple was torn down because they knew right where Golgotha and the tomb were, and they found them exactly where they knew where they would be. The sites were never lost. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre was then built over / around the sites. Some people like to say Constantine's mother, Helena, "found the sites." It's simply spin. Gordon (I don't remember his full name) wandered in, saw the Church of the Holy Sepulchre was inside the city walls and declared that it couldn't be in the right location. He didn't know that the location WAS outside of the city walls during Jesus' time. He was clueless. He picked a place that could be Golgotha, but we don't even know what that spot looked like in Jesus' time. They were working on it when this video was made because some rocks have fallen away. How do we know how many rocks fell away between Jesus' crucifixion and Gordon's arrival in the city? It's ridiculous. There's no way to know what that looked like back then. The locations of Jesus' death and resurrection were never lost. There is no legitimate question as to the locations of the sites. I complete agree with the video. Go to the Garden Tomb to get a sense of what a tomb around that time was like, but go to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre to see where Jesus' death and resurrection actually happened.

@harrynikken 7 ай бұрын

National Geographic a few years ago made some detailed drawings of how the site changed over the years. That makes our understanding much more clear.

@Fmandan77 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video. I visited The Church of the Holy Sepulcher in 2011 and was confused by what I saw. I've often wondered which location might be accurate. I'm planning another visit this summer and as you suggest, I think I may go see both locations. God bless.

@barbrovaage7309 6 ай бұрын

Myself I think it is in the garden tomb.

@tomklock568 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating. There are many arguments on both sides. It’s worth further investigation.

@user-ny8iv1vg2p 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video it is my dream to see the place

@willettej7988 3 ай бұрын

During the time of Christ, the tomb was outside the city. The city was expanded and ,the walls then enclosed Christ’s tomb. When Jerusalem was destroyed, the Roman ruler insisted that they build a statue of the god Jupiter on the site of Christ’s tomb. That’s how you know it It was excavated under the church of the holy sepulcher

@ivastewart7106 7 ай бұрын

GREAT VIDEO THANK YOU, AND GOD BLESS YOU. 🕊🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕊

@kathygoodman6159 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's sad that they changed it from the original. They built a gaudy church and put those gaudy decorations around (sorry if that offends anyone) something holy that should have been left alone. I'm just not into all of those "trappings" of some religions. That money could be used for good instead of all of the silver and gold and the fancy buildings. It's just not necessary to worship God in my opinion. I'm so glad that you went to both places. Everything you said makes sense. It's a shame we don't know the exact place for sure, but seeing the garden tomb is like seeing the Bible come alive. How I wish I could see it myself. I got chills seeing it through your eyes, thank you so much for showing it to us.

@JackDawn939 8 ай бұрын

Ignorance can never offend. If you consider traditions of early Christian Church, continued to the present day in Orthodoxy, Armenian Apostolic, Coptic and Ethiopian Malkara "GAUDY", then it's about you. Not about near 2000 years of historic, based Christianity. Jesus Christ was neither a German Protestant reformer, nor an Anglican or Calvinist priests. And the least of all was he a Born Again pastor.

@benevenuto9794 6 ай бұрын

Christians never forgot the place of the Lord’s resurrection. How could they… it is the church of the holy sepluchre.

@CRAZYHORSE19682003 8 ай бұрын

The Garden Tomb was carved in the Iron Age, about 600 years before Jesus lived so biblically it has a ZERO percent chance of being Jesus tomb. The garden is from the time of the crusades, the cistern, from the time of the crusades. I will mention one small bit of scripture everyone seems to forget. In the books of Luke and John when they went to the tomb of Jesus it SPECIFICALLY says they had to stoop down to look inside the tomb. Look at the entrance to the Garden Tomb, it CLEARLY isn't the tomb mentioned in the gospels. The Garden Tomb is literally a tourist trap for gullible people.

@harrynikken 7 ай бұрын

It's not a tourist trap. Even the custodians of the Garden Tomb don't say it is The Tomb. They are even happy it's not to be proven. Because it would start to look again like the Holy Sepulcher and that would ruin the quiet spiritual experience that the Garden Tomb is.

@glorygracek.1841 7 ай бұрын

I have done some studying on it, and actually, it was developed by protostants (I am one, so I can say this without bias) as a bit of a bratty child against it's parents move, because the catholic, Greek Orthodox and 2 others that my brain just turned off their names that "own" it in unison pretty much since it was found and created.....because obviously they were first and the protostants left them. Since they are the ones that do, it's open to the public of course, but to hold a service is not allowed. Especially the body and blood, the Eucharist, because they treat it actually a WHOLE lot more reverently and with more meaning, then the protostants. So essentially they stomped their foot and said "fine, you won't let us do what we want, so we will go find a really old tomb that the area looks like it could be and tell and raise our children that this is the real one, and not the other and that will from then on the truth" not realizing of course that there would be someday a way to call out the truth. That actually makes me mad that we all have been lied to for so long. Honoring a place that isn't true, because we didn't know better. What those people did is actually blasphemy and to worship and honor, there almost feels like it's in the realm of like worshipping a false something or other. Extremely sad that that has been done to us to the point many will always refuse to believe. Since the research was led by Discovery, an almost anti God organization they will never come out and say it is 100% his tomb (the one that's not the garden tomb) but they DID say it was very likely, which for them is saying it is. That documentary they did was surprisingly good.

@Nebias498 3 күн бұрын

Church of the Holy Sepulcher is the true burial place of The Lord Jesus Christ✝️❤️

@scottrussell7659 8 ай бұрын

I think the Golgotha above the bus depot is probably the right one.

@SavageVoyageur 8 ай бұрын

I’ve been to both of them, you need to see both of them.

@TheBurningBushbyGeorgeBurnash 7 ай бұрын

I agree

@daisyq2501 7 ай бұрын

Although it is nice to think it is the rock that held the Cross, how to they even know that? Was there carbon dating? Is there old blood markings?

@gulanhem9495 5 ай бұрын

Guesses lol

@TD402dd Ай бұрын

The Church is no different than the monastery in the Sinai peninsula that is suppose to be where the Jews found the Holy Mountain, WRONG!! The Holy Mountain of Sinai is in Saudi Arabia where the split rock where the water miracle is. I'm sorry for the many people who have been tricked by the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, but the burial site was the Garden Tomb which is outside the city where all burials happen. I wouldn't believe any pagan from Rome to choose the site of Jesus' burial, who also chose the Sinai Peninsula for the Mt. Sinai.

@guylarcher6005 6 ай бұрын

This issue was the beginning of my deconstruction from christianity. I lived in Israel for a year. I learned enough to have to undo a lot of misinformation.

@TheBurningBushbyGeorgeBurnash 6 ай бұрын

You have me curious how that worked out and what conclusions you came to. As well as what you thought of mine. I'd love to know more. Either here or if you prefer you can email me. As someone who was not raised as a Christian I find those that "deconstruct" and the process very interesting- and how many of them emerge with a stronger faith (though not all)

@hoppscraft 8 ай бұрын

And He appeared to Mother Mary like a gardener

@papertherapywithamy4153 8 ай бұрын

To Mary Magdalene.

@user-ny8iv1vg2p 6 ай бұрын

Both

@edwardtranfaglia8397 5 ай бұрын

Both are right....they moved his body a few times...so no one can steal his body...

@shawncovert751 7 ай бұрын

The ONLY one who knows the TRUE location, is God himself!

@jonyivre4541 2 ай бұрын

The Church of the Holy Sepulcher (AD 336) the Garden Tomb (AD 33).

@stevenmanriquez8030 7 күн бұрын

The garden tomb was founded in the 19th century. The tomb of the garden tomb is 7-8 centuries before Jesus Christ was around. Sure it was common for tombs to be reused but the Bible is clear that the tomb was new. Also the garden existed during the time of crusades and not the time of Jesus Christ. The skull rock formation was also not there due to erosion. The holy sepulchre tomb recently discovered to been around the 1st century ad.

@leechjim8023 8 ай бұрын

Whaaatz wit da mask!?🤔😳☹️

@gregkennedy5505 5 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure where the garden tomb is, is where Jesus was buried because it shows the skull on the mountain side 😊

@MathieuLLF 2 ай бұрын

The Holy Sepulchre is the real place.

@CounterAgenda1 8 ай бұрын

The Bible say its the garden

@CRAZYHORSE19682003 8 ай бұрын

LOL No it doesn't. The Garden Tomb was carved in the Iron Age, about 600 years before Jesus lived so biblically it has a ZERO percent chance of being Jesus tomb. The garden is from the time of the crusades, the cistern, from the time of the crusades. The Garden Tomb is literally a tourist trap for gullible people.

@CounterAgenda1 8 ай бұрын

Oh do you have the construction schedule and building permit date@@CRAZYHORSE19682003

@CounterAgenda1 8 ай бұрын

John 19: 41 describes the garden tomb exactly. The book of John was available for Helena to access prior to her so called discovery of the Catholic site. So, it means this if a garden was part of the tomb she would have kept the garden safe as it was part of the text: she did not. There is only one place that has both a tomb and a garden with ancient olive trees. @@CRAZYHORSE19682003

@stevenmanriquez8030 7 күн бұрын

Just because the garden tomb fits the description in the Bible doesn’t mean it was always there. The Bible said that the tomb was new. Completely impossible for the garden tomb. The Bible says it was outside the walls of Jerusalem. The holy sepulchre is currently inside the walls built by the ottomans but during the time of Jesus it was outside the city walls. The holy sepulchre tomb was recently dated from the 1st century. It was common knowledge shortly after Jesus Christ resurrected that people used the empty tomb for worship. When the Romans took over Jerusalem it was common knowledge that they built a pagan temple over the tomb. Evidence proves that before the holy sepulchre there was a pagan temple. Also let’s not forget that the holy sepulchre was destroyed and rebuilt many times.

@kbklein28 6 ай бұрын

Neither site is correct. When the centurion was in front of the crucifixion😮😅 of Jesus he saw an earthquake. Then he saw the curtain in front of the temple door tear in half. He could not have seen it from the Church of holy sepulcher which was north nor the garden tomb area which was north . The centurion could only have seen these things from east at foot of Mt Of Olives.

@SirWillow 6 ай бұрын

I think you misunderstand. The Scriptures say that at that moment the veil of the Temple was torn, but not that the Centurion saw it. Just that he was quoted at the same time as the other event happened. Because of the large wall around the Temple, there wasn't any location where a gentile would have been able to see inside the Holy of Holies where that veil was.

@kbklein28 6 ай бұрын

Your comment makes no sense. If you stand at the upward slope of the mount of Olives you would see down into the temple environs. But you view the temple as though it was up on the Temple Mount which it wasn’t. The temple was built on the city of David.

@SirWillow 6 ай бұрын

I would also encourage a look for many of the videos of the City of David (I really need to do a video about my visits there as well) and you'll see why that was not where the Temple was (it's next door to the Mount, down the hill a bit, and not anywhere near enough room for the Temple) I'm not sure what your sources are, but there is definitely some misunderstanding of locations and layout there.@@kbklein28

@kbklein28 6 ай бұрын

So then, if the only water supply into Jerusalem at that time was the Gihon spring and the priesthood needed water and lots of water for cleansing you mean to tell me they Carrie water all the way from the Gihon up to the Temple Mount?

@TheBurningBushbyGeorgeBurnash 6 ай бұрын

www.cryforjerusalem.com/post/water-herods-temple www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-jerusalem-temple-mount-threshing-floor-aqueduct.htm

@leechjim8023 8 ай бұрын

I sense too much Malarky here!☹️

@norton2757 5 ай бұрын

NEITHER…… The Talpiot tomb is the tomb of Jesus of Nazareth.

@Fox8ball. 5 ай бұрын

Neither is right they're both decoys

@nickma71 7 ай бұрын

That is made up. However, what is not is the Holy Bible. The Temple, the sacrifices if Abraham having his son substituted by a ram are on Mount Moriah. The so-called church of the holy sepulcher is not on Mount Moriah. It is exempt.

@TheBurningBushbyGeorgeBurnash 7 ай бұрын

I think you have things a little confused. first, Golgotha is where Jesus died, not Moriah. different locations, different events. When Jesus was crucified there was a giant Temple sitting on Moriah at thr time- what we now call the Temple Mount. He most definitely was not crucified there as it would have profane the Temple in their eyes. the other thing is that people love to mix in tradition and then assume that the Bible says things that it actually doesn't. So, for example, it does not say that Jesus was born in December. But we assume he was because of traditions. He was likely born in Spring. So don't let tradition about Bible stories get you confused about what the Bible actually says. or a lack of knowledge of history and what the area was like at the time Jesus lived and died.

@nickma71 7 ай бұрын

@@TheBurningBushbyGeorgeBurnash The place of the skull is right by the tomb. And God foreshadows just about everything in the “Old Testament”. 13 Then Abraham lifted his eyes and looked, and there behind him was a ram caught in a thicket by its horns. So Abraham went and took the ram, and offered it up for a burnt offering instead of his son. 14 And Abraham called the name of the place, The-Lord-Will-Provide; as it is said to this day, “In the Mount of the Lord it shall be provided.” David was later instructed to purchase the land of the threshing floor which is also on Mount Moriah. The Temple was built there.

@SirWillow 7 ай бұрын

@@nickma71 right- the Temple was built there. and was sitting on top of Mount Moriah when Jesus was alive and crucified. They did not crucify people on the temple mount. That would have caused a riot. Golgotha and Moriah are NOT the same place. Golgotha was a place outside of the walls of the city (see John 19: 16-18, which makes this very clear) and the Temple was inside of the walls. They did not overlap in any way at all and shouldn't be confused together anymore than, say, New York and Washington DC should be.

@hoppscraft 8 ай бұрын

It is the garden tomb that is the right place due too the carved bed rock ,1 left unfinished

@MathieuLLF 2 ай бұрын

Nope. It doesn't even date to the proper time period.

@ronwilliams1094 5 ай бұрын

I wholeheartedly believe it's the Garden Tomb. Go watch videos about Ron Wyatt's archaeological discoveries which include Jeremiah's Grotto, Golgotha, Ark of the Covenant, the Red Sea crossing as well as Mount Sinai. VERY compelling evidence.

@thrassthrak9091 5 ай бұрын

Garden tomb. Matches the sentence that mary see someone and thinks he is a gardener

@Fox8ball. 5 ай бұрын

You said probably and would be too much I think you know you're lying!

@SirWillow 5 ай бұрын

wow, such class. to accuse someone you don't know of lying just because you don't like what they say? smh That attitude is part of the problem, not the solution.

@SirWillow 5 ай бұрын

furthermore, what would possibly be gained by lying about anything in this video? What would the purpose and the goal be? This channel isn't monetized, so there isn't any money being made.

@petergianakopoulos4926 8 ай бұрын

Please stop the garden tomb is utterly ridiculous.

@TheBurningBushbyGeorgeBurnash 7 ай бұрын

So did you watch all the way through to reach the conclusion?

@petergianakopoulos4926 7 ай бұрын

Yes@@TheBurningBushbyGeorgeBurnash

@petergianakopoulos4926 7 ай бұрын

now its your turn.. garden tomb is RIDICULOUS

@SirWillow 7 ай бұрын

@@petergianakopoulos4926 My turn? My turn was the video, which talked about both, including the evidence or lack of behind each. as I said in the video- if you want the actual site of where it happened, then that's the Holy Sepulcher. But it looks and feels nothing like it did back then. If you want to have an idea of what it was like when Jesus died, then that's what the Garden Tomb is good for. Each has it's place. Personally I think it's a bit, ahem, ridiculous to be put off by an actual discussion of each. We used to be a society that enjoyed talking about things and hashing them out, not writing off and insulting anyone that had a different view. And especially if you're a believer then we should be better than that towards other people.

@virgil81nz 19 күн бұрын

The remains of Yehoshua are still lying in a Jewish tomb somewhere in Jerusalem. He was a mortal being and the tomb containing his remains are still there. The discovery of his remains will destroy the very foundation stone of Christianity.