same

Slimy, and they know it. They rely on fooling the masses. I won't buy them bc of how they did this.

You're forgetting bigger tires usually come with a thicker ply, I have Micheln 31" 4 ply all season tires and lemme tell you they are way more soft and forgiving than my 35" Toyo AT3s 10 ply, even when aired down to 15 PSI and keeping my all seasons at 30

Agree completely. Have a look at Öhlins, they just released a shock setup for the wrangler. I trust öhlins over fox any day.

I have a rubicon gladiator diesel and the stock shocks won’t do the job. I am running 35s TOYO A/T. My friend bought the Mojave n it comes with the 2.5 shocks from the factory and it makes A HUGEEEE difference. I am saving for the 2.5 fox shocks and the fox hydro bump stops.

I put the bilstein 5100 on my ram 1500 and those are also amazing on and off road for a little price tag.

I swear by Bilsteins too and that's what I have on my car. It's a 1995 Mercedes E320 and i installed them on the car when I bought it ~10 years ago. I get sporty handling with a nice plush ride at the same time. It needed shocks when I bought it so that was an easy upgrade. I need to install them on my current car (same car but a wagon. And diesel!) But it has te sportline shocks which are a standard sporty upgrade for the Mercedes. I doubt they are as good as the Bilsteins though.

That's so true my front shocks were leaking and donzo around 80 thousand miles (give or take a few thousands) on my jeep jk. Those stock shocks are probably gonna need replacing soon.

Not necessarily, manufacturers will NEVER tell you if a stock part is actually quality. Why would they? Their job is to tell you what you have is bad and you need to buy their product

Most of it is shit

the 3.0 has a full aluminum body and finned reservoirs, not something you can mimic with an external bypass shock. We wouldn't trade IBP and finned ressies for only rebound compression

Can we buy these all shocks from mopar or dealership

@@GaryGill786 these are aftermarket and are better than what your stock parts options are as long as they are matched properly eg. don’t pair 4+ inch lift shocks on a stock height vehicle and don’t get 3.0’s on a 2 door Jeep unless you really need tons of shock absorption as otherwise it will be overly stiff. A good quality lift kit should have well paired shocks or go to a place like accutune for a good setup.

They are rebuildable

THey are rebuildable, runs about $800-1k for a rebuild as well. These 3.0s are only for those who want the best and money isnt an option, they take upkeep, and they're meant to go HARD

M/t aggressive tires is most important

at least the 2.5 dsc

Fox doesn't make a direct replacement shock for that Van, but there's lots of companies making shock mount kits for the vans, or you can find a universal length fox 2.0 from Fox that may work, hit us up.

The difference from a 2.0 to a 2.5 with reservoirs, and the DSC is night and day. Better feel all around, the adjustability makes a real difference.

Bilstein 6112 on my 2021 Tacoma TRD 4X4 is just Awesome 👌. Paired with 5160s is a winner for the money you spend.

I agree the 5100 are cheap and great shock.

Lol wtf why?

The shocks dont affect towing capacity, just how the energy and weight is being thrown around or how it oscillates the rear end. You can use the DSC to firm-up the low speed settings for a very controlled ride when towing.

the wrangler would leave the gladiator in the dust. But the gladiator could rock climb a lot better due to the larger tires.

Honestly, save your money. You can fool yourself into "feeling a difference" with the butt dyno. However, the original works "ok" other than the minor steering effort difference from Left to Right turn (most don't even know this, you may now that I told you). If it bothers you, get the regular "through shaft". Don't bother with the adjustable ATS version. PS if you're steering is bad, there are other things which require fixing/correction. The stabilizer should be last on the list of suspension work.

@@GevoA1 appreciate it we ended up buying one already but when I do the gladiator I'm gonna go with one of the cheaper options I would say there was definitely a difference with the teraflex one and I enjoy it but I'd be fine with the model down thats just the pass-through without adjustments

@@dyzard43 Sorry, wish I was sooner lol . There is for sure a difference, but nothing to justify the price. I have the adjustable fox and don't see much of a difference really as the dampening is good, you almost only adjust the steering stiffness with the adjuster, which with larger tires, you almost always want on the loosest setting anyway. I've only set it higher on long highway trips. Off road wise, especially high speed, its on the softest as the factory electric power steering system is already bad enough lol. For all the crap people give Falcon shocks for being "off brand" or "not US made" I haven't seen any major failures from them. I just haven't seen them long term regarding the seals and the shaft hardness isn't the best, however, especially for a steering stabilizer, I don't see any issues. If I had to, I think I'd go with Falcon as you said instead of the Fox as well and save some cash.

@@GevoA1 yeah its all good though live and learn and take experience forward:D

Fox 2.0s are a huge improvement over stock

when you've been on 2.5 shocks, and you're forced to run 2.0s for test purposes, it does suck

Just stick with bilstein's. I was looking at them all when updating my suspension and for less then the price of the 2.5" fox's alone, I was able to do front and rear 5100's, OME coils, UCA's, and a heavy duty leaf pack. Perfect set up for daily driving and mild offroading and not break the bank. Fox are nice, just too damn much atleast IMO.

We will just be looking at you and laughing

@@brandonruhl1639 yup. What's funny is that the Wrangler will be old news when the Bronco comes out. No one will care about your Wrangler cult and the extensive, mods you continue to do. Sorry not sorry.

@@desertmike680 think what you want. The bronco with its IFS will never ever be as capable as a wrangler and I don’t care what you’ve seen or heard

Haha, good one!

they're not trying to fool anyone. They usually do these demos with the same Wrangler at their Fox Ride Experiences, but probably weren't available.

Salesmanship 101. Who they fooling

I thought he would die while riding the stock one 😂😂😂😂

Girth

Larger tires is the only way to get the diff higher off of the ground. Also added ground clearance for the vehicle as well. Bigger tires = smaller obstacles.

You might be disappointed

I’ve owned both. Trust me you won’t be disappointed

What Toyota are you getting? We have several in our family.

@@offroadkings379 not sure, not currently in the market for a car or truck.

Can't beat the peace of mind of driving around a 4runner. Sure, you gotta modify it more to put on bigger tires but aside from that, it's way better in terms of comfort, noise and reliability.

It's a business & they have to pay the bills. Plus they were very clear @ the beginning of the video it was a sponsored video by Fox. Can't get much more transparent than that.

@@robinsonmac Yeah well they can deal with the comments idc I will continue posting them 😆