Nice. I like your approach, still rocking the amp, even though the preprocessors have changed. That's exactly why your setup is working so well. Very cool.

SMH. You would think he would have mentioned the ability to use true differential outputs (XLR), lower SINAD, better bass management, etc. I assume none of those things listed actually apply.

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Well, if you don't need the 8K port, they are around the same price. SR7015 just came in and I set it up yesterday. I hope to have the first video out tomorrow, but...it's been hard getting started today :(

@@TechnoDad I wasn't talking about the outgoing AV7705, but the brand new AV7706 (with 8K). I am so disappointed in ASR's measurements of the SR7015 now though.

I recently picked up an old Marantz AV 7702 processor and it COMPLETELY DESTROYS my Yamaha RXA 3060! I've now sold the 3060 and will never go back to using an AVR!

yep

still better than depending on the AVR for it all. You have taken the strain off the AVR. Think about it: the less you crank the knob on the AVR to get LOUD, the less distortion you get. I would not be too upset with the route you have taken...

@Roy R I’m faced with the same situation. Am running an Onkyo TX-NR686 Receiver, and now am in a process of buying a Monolith 7x True-200 amplifier with the idea of letting my Receiver do the processing, and now this.🙆🏻‍♂️

@@Turtleback8024 have you received your external amp yet? And did you hook it to your AVR? And was there a noticeable difference?

x3700 tests very well on audio science review as a preamp source.

you are PERFECTLY fine. it's 2022, same procs on all of their line-up, never trust marketing...

What kind of receiver do you have and what kind of amps did you add?

That's Marantz low class for you. The Yamaha pre pro is built very different (so many different components, supply, etc) than the equivalent flagship receiver. I finally got the chance to strip one down.

Stay away from Marantz. My SR5014 just sh%t the bed right before the Super Bowl. Had it about a year. Never would buy an AVR ever in life again.

New denon has pre amp mode on there avr sounds like the same as a pre pro

Get an emotive 3 channel , 5 or 7 channel amp. The Bassx and XLA are both great options. I also have the Denon but use it only to fire my Atmos speakers

He is just at the movies lol

Until you have a chance to listen to your speakers powered by a receiver, then switch it out for a prepro and separates, you’ll never know. When I made the jump, it was by far the biggest improvement in sound out of anything I’ve ever done to improve the sound. The separation is just blatantly obvious when using separates. I’ve never heard of anyone who has made the jump actualy be disappointed and prefer the sound of the AVR. it’s just one of those things. You won’t know til you hear it. I had a hard time believing it was anything but a more expensive receiver without the amplifiers. It made no sense. But the difference is apparent

@@kilgoretrout4461 is it a huge leap over just adding a 5 Channel or higher amp to my AVR? Or will I notice a huge difference just adding an amp to my AVR? I am in the belief that adding an amp will be a very noticeable difference and then going to a pre out would give me a bit more but for real how much more?

@@kman9387 in my experience, the leap from Avr to Avr w/amp was much less of a leap than going from Avr w/ amp to full separates. So the leap from AVR straight to separates, should be quite dramatic. Dedicated processors can be expensive, yes, but it’s not just because of limited runs and less gross sales. It’s because every piece of hardware inside that processor is dedicated to better sound. The problem with modern receivers is that they are cramming sooooooo much stuff into one box, that compromises absolutely have to be made. Cramming 9 or 11 amplifier modules into a box that already has tons of stuff already is no easy feat. Modern receivers are amazing for what they are. Don’t get me wrong. But one thing that a receiver just can’t do is physically separate a lot of the components inside. It’s impossible to prevent all components from affecting one another when they are right on top of each other. You get cross talk and other things that just aren’t there in a separate processor. Honestly, you can get into separates for less than you probably expect as well. You can get a good, used processor, if you take the time to search one out, for under $1200. If that cuts down your ability to get more expensive amps, you can always start with buying some cheaper ones like crowns or qsc, there are a lot of cheaper amps out there that you could use in the meantime while you’re saving up for more expensive ones. I used to not be Abel to wrap my head around why processors were so expensive, and how in the hell they could cost more than receivers when receivers came with amps in them. I always thought a processor was basically just a receiver but without the amps, but that is not the case at all. I have yet to speak to anyone that didn’t think moving to separates was definitely the right decision. Undoubtedly they exist, but I haven’t met one myself.

@@kilgoretrout4461 very awesome info 👍🤘👏👌. Thank you for your time and help with this matter! I've been told that if I get the Emotiva 5 Channel amp and add it to my AVR it will help out greatly while I save up for a new processor and at least I will always be able to keep the amp because amps last way longer because technically they don't change quite like processors due to changing formats in video and audio.

@@kman9387 Thats what I'm doing. Gonna get the monolith 11x for my denon 3700h, then when I can squeeze a few bucks together, get a dedicated prosessor. The hard decision will be, which processor.

a single company not making a product, doesn’t mean it’s pointless. Denon and Marantz both use the same Sound United devices and do their own mods to them. Marantz has PrePros, so basically the company that actually makes these devices DOES have PrePros. So far I’ve yet to hear someone bash on the sound of PrePros, and typically they all say the same thing: better placement of objects and more “3D” detail in them, less artificial. Look at just a few that make PrePros: Marantz, Anthem/JBL, Arcam, Monoprice, Emotiva, Tonewinner, NAD, AudioControl, Classe, Yamaha, Trinnov, Acurus, Rotel, StormAudio, Integra.

@@andrewskaterrr I want "Denon" in a Prepro !

@@starlight7830 same here, but with Dirac too, and for under $3000. I'm currently debating what to buy, go cheap with a Denon or ToneWinner PrePro (both no Dirac), go Onkyo AVR with Dirac, or go Anthem/JBL AVR or PrePro with Dirac but also software issues. Such a bad market right now.

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