Thanks Michael 🙂👍

I wouldn't really worry about the brand of the nib. Buy a pen you love. And brand and any model can have a rough nib, but the large majority will have good nibs, and companies stand behind JoWo and Bock nibs. If one isn't right, the company will make it right. As a rule, I am not fond of Bock nibs, primarily because of QC, but two of my favorite pens, a Kaweco Brass Sport, and a Visconti Homo Sapiens Bronze Age, have Bock gold nibs on them, and I love both pens.

Glad that you found it useful 🙂 Thanks and do subscribe for more such videos🙂

True , none is better than the other. It all depends on ones personal preference. I personally love Aurora nibs 🙂

@@Penandpapers Can't fault you at all for that. Honestly, I'm far more concerned about the pen than with who makes the nib/ If I love a pen, the nib will work out. If I don't love a pen, even a great nib doesn't make up for it.

Thanks Richard 🙂

I wanted to do a separate video about the same . Let's see when that happens

Thanks for subscribing 🙂 When I bought the vac700 the retailer told me that its a bock nib but as pointed out by one of the members, it could be a Jowo nib as well , however the writing experience is totally different from other Jowo nibs I have in my collection.

The retailer from whome I bought this pen told me that this is a bock nib. And its a very well known retailer amongst the fountain pen community. Will double check though Thanks 🙂👍

​@@Penandpapers I knew I have seen it somewhere before - a quick KZfaq search and I found the reference where I saw it before from Brian Goulet... Hope it helps - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdSkZpeAttisiJ8.html

Hey I will update it in the discription and will make a seperate video on generic bock nib that I have thanks for correcting

I would agree. Jowo uses those swirls on their nibs.

My old TWSBI 540 has a Bock nib, with the marking on the left side.

They manufacture their own nib as far as I know

@@Penandpapers thanks Siddharth for the reply.

Will do a seperate review for Indian made nibs 🙂👍 Thanks for the suggestion

@@Penandpapers then include ambitious nibs and krishna nibs also.

I would love to see what fountain pens are made there and company names, which are the best pens that are smooth wet writers like Jovo or Pilot.

Would definitely make a Video on that very soon along with the contact details of the retailers

@@Penandpapers Thank you, I look forward go it!!

The JoWo should be

Where would I find any of these Chinese nibs? Is there a certain pen I could buy?

@@jomeson4081Checkout #fountainpentherapy here on KZfaq! He just published a „top 10 Chinese fountain pens of 2023“ video. Hongdian and Jinhao as well as Majohn and Wing Sung come to mind. They’re cheapest from AliExpress, but also found on eBay, Amazon, Etsy, etc.

I prefer Bock as well however Jowo has been become some consistent nibs for years now.

It's available with ASA pens Chennai.

Its Kaweco student 🙂

@@Penandpapers price?

It was around 4000 when I bought it , now they have increased the price I think

@@Penandpapers please share the website link for this pen

Yes the Nib unit is Available in India Bock nib unit is available with Ranga Pens and Jowo is available with multiple sellers

@@Penandpapers I checked with Ranga pens, they don’t sell separately the nib units

Thank you very much 😂👍

No, not really. Too many think a smooth nib means a good nib, and it isn't true. Chinese nibs have become much smoother, but they are still made from thin, extremely low=grade stainless steel. Worse, so is the tipping. I can wear down the tipping enough to interfere severely with the writing in six months on every Chinese nib I've tested. Four months on a couple of occasions. The tipping on a typicale brand name steel nib made in the west takes four years to wear down to the same extent. The rest of Chinese pens also use very cheap materials. The plastic often looks spectacular, but even when they call it "resin", it's still just cheap plastic. The same is true of what China calls "acrylic". Worse yet, the "brass" used in Chinese pens is so cheap, so low-grade, and so soft that it doesn't even qualify as brass by western standards. Scrape the barrel on a Chinese pen and there's a good chance you'll find dings and dents that are perfectly hidden by the shrink wrap. Compare that brass to the brass on something like the Kaweco Brass Sport. You can tell at a glance that they aren't even the same metal. A Chinese friend of mind who is highly involved in Chinese pen manufacture says that Chinese manufacturers are excellent at making beautiful children's toys that they sell to outsiders as adult tools. He is exactly right, and they are proud of being able to do this. Chinese fountain pens are certainly usable, but if you're at all wise the first thing you'll do is put a western nib on them. Seriously, think about. It costs less than a dollar to manufacture most of the pens you mentioned. Under two dollars to manufacture the best of them. Not even China with it's inhuman wages can make anything out of high level materials at that price. Now, I don't buy Chinese pens because I don't want a penny of my money going to fund ongoing genocide, political imprisonment, government sponsored muggings, "disappearing" of whistleblowers and dissidents, child labor, and other atrocious human rights violations. I also don't like helping to pay for a military buildup that includes producing thousands of nuclear weapons while the rest of the world is trying to eliminate nuclear weapons. But we each have to make our own decision about such things. I wouldn't buy Chinese pens, anyway, because they really are made from very cheap materials, some of these pens actually cost fifty cents in China, they really are beautiful children's toys sold to outsiders as adult tools. There are other pretty cheap, and far higher quality pens out there. Even name brand companies have some very cheap, very good pens made from far better materials. India is also making some incredible pens at very, very low prices considering the materials used, such as solid ebonite. And FPR has nibs and matching feeds at dirt cheap prices. I don't think there's a better flex nib on the market than the FPR Ultra Flex. Too, save your money and buy something really nice. I stopped drinking coffee, Capuchino, soft drinks, and bottled water when away from home and save fifteen dollars a week. I put ten in a Christmas account, three in a jar at home, and put two back in the family budget. I could have bought a very nice pen at the end of a year, but I rolled it over for a second year. At the end of two years, I bought a Visconti Homo Sapiens Bronze Age, a Pilot Custom 823, and a Platinum 3776. Even five dollars per week will buy the 823 and the 3776 after two years, Really, how many hundred cheap Chinese pens does it take to be worth even the 823, let alone the Bronze Age?

James, I agree with you concerning the quality of the materials and overall product of the Chinese pens but the reality is that for most buyers these pens will not see more than a few hours of service in their lifetime. As for your political statement, although you were attempting to describe China, it hits close to home. Regardless, I learned from your comment and appreciate you taking the time. Thank you.

Thank you for this more complete information, and for the finer distinctions I've never heard about before. When you refer to 'in-house' nibs, do you mean manufactured from scratch or just tuned? The two best nibs I have are both on Franklin Christoph pens, one ground by Mike Matsuyama, and both refined for my specific preferences by Jim Rouse, sadly no longer with us. Almost forgot my Platinum music nib, which kick-started the fountain pen part of my life; Brian Goulet talked me into it.

Hi Avinash I haven't used ASA Orion but Schmidt nibs are generally good. Other pens Under 1500 rs are 1. Sheaffer no nonsense this comes around 600-800rs 2. Jinhao 100 3. For eyedroppers Mohi Aura

4. Airmail Pens are bock threaded so you can purchase an Airmail pen and replace the stock nib with the bock

​@@Penandpapersany specific model of airmail like 69T, 71JT which are threaded for Bock nibs please?

Bock is on more pens, but that's hardly an indicator of quality. Kaweco and Visconti both use Bock, and the problems they've had with nibs over the last few years doesn't say much for Bock QC. Visconti is aid to have put its big foot down and Bock is now giving them much better gold nibs, but the steel nibs on cheap Visconti are pretty bad, and the fine and extra fine Kaweco nibs have far too frequent problems. I absolutely love my Visconti Homo Sapiens Bronze Age, and it has a spectacular nib, but others haven't been so lucky. I do think Visconti has solved the problem, but for a while there Bock just wasn't delivering. I also have a Kaweco Brass Sport. I liked the pen enough that I bought a Kaweco gold nib for it. The gold nib is way, way overpriced when compared to other gold nibs of the same size, but I really liked the Brass Sport, so I bought one. It was not smooth at all, and an overpriced gold nib should be smooth. But I've worked on nibs for a long time, and I can do anything from smoothing to grinding, and I smoother it out quickly. It's now one of my daily carry, take anywhere and everywhere pens. My expoerience with working on nibs is that JoWo nibs are, on the whole, better made and solider than Bock nibs, and have better tipping. But both companies produce very, very good nibs, and my only real complaint with Bock nibs is that QC is nowhere near as good as it is with JoWo nibs. That said, a company wanting either brand is going to get what it pays for, just a little more so with JoWo.