WHICH One WINS? Tonewinner D6000 vs SVS PB3000 REW Measurements

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Can this budget Tonewinner D6000 out perform the renowned SVS PB3000? Find out in this video, it's the Tonewinner D6000 VS the SVS PB3000! With REW measurements, find out who wins.
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00:00 - Similarities/Differences
02:21 - REW Measurements ported
08:02 - REW Measurements sealed
13:00 - My Thoughts
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@joraspa 11 ай бұрын

SVS may have been able to compete before their price hikes. But we have a clear "winner" here! Tonwinner for the win!

@soumyamaitra5839 8 ай бұрын

Really good point not getting biased to any! Keep it up man.

@Johnnytrades101 11 ай бұрын

Great review! I am very impressed and happy to see the D6000 perform like this, A BASS MONSTER! The difference in measurements is huge. Having a pair set up nicely would be endgame for most people. Output below 70 Hz and especially below 20hz is world class IMO, and so important in todays AV content. Combined with the App, it is just a Winner!!! (I will be over for a demo!)

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

haha come on over any time brother. I am trying to get a second in my room for measurements. That way I can compare 2 of them to the 2 SVS PB16's that I used to have in my room. Should be an interesting video also.

@thillyard1 11 ай бұрын

SVS has never been the budget leader IMHO, but you also get their amazing build quality, warranty, return policies, and customer service. I’m in the US though and I agree the SVS pricing in Canada makes no sense. I’ve been using dual Monolith 15’s now for 5+ years and love them. They were $1999 shipped to my door after tax, etc for both. The good old days…

@billybobby7607 11 ай бұрын

They were, 15 years ago

@desertplanet3320 11 ай бұрын

Amazing and unbiased review like usual 👍👍 Awesome to see products coming out that are worth their value or in this case better 😊 Especially nice to see a product like this come out with an amazong low canadian price... Just awesome... Well done

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

Thank you, much appreciated...cheers.

@desertplanet3320 11 ай бұрын

@@SpecOfTechNp...your one of the few that are brave to try new and unfamiliar products...And shock the community when they blow the big names..😊

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

@@desertplanet3320 Well thank you, but I just try to bring products to light that I think will benefit the community. Uber expensive products only benefit a small niche group of people. Sure, expensive products are cool to see, but don't really benefit those who don't have the budget to waste on luxuries like that. Big name brands get all kids of reviews on line, and there is nothing wrong with that either, I have covered a lot them myself. But I do love showing the community something that is new, exciting and that provides a stunning value.

@alcozar5905 11 ай бұрын

Great video!

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@keepingupwiththejones2933 11 ай бұрын

Tonewinner for Canadian bass enthusiasts is an answered prayer❤🙏

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

I agree, they now can get stellar performance with all the bells and whistles for a budget price.

@edmanyiu 11 ай бұрын

Good job! I’d love to see a D6000 vs JTR2400 comparison though. Thanks

@canuckerjay 8 ай бұрын

Hmmm. Nice to see a fellow basshead north of the border … greatreview! Nice to see graphs explained! But beyond the numbers…did it feel different listening to each? Or just, ‘bass is bass’?

@jamiegrant6970 11 ай бұрын

It would be great if you could compare the d6000 to monolith 15 thx. Thank you for your vids.

@RaahulSawhney 7 ай бұрын

Hi, I had almost booked a pb 2000 pro to go dual and then I came across tonewinner. Now contemplating to either go dual pb 2000 pro or get one of d6000 and use it along the pb 2000 pro n see how it goes and later sell the pb for a dual d6000. What are your views on that? Just a bit skeptical bout audio/bass quality and seems too good to be true that it outperforms the pb16ultra. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks.

@michaelduncan123 11 ай бұрын

Tone winner is making high end audio much more affordab. That is a pretty good improvement with a price difference, I agree on that 100 %. I like svs also but if I ever am in the market I will looking at tone winner for sure. That processor they have that you reviewed over The emotiva MC1 would be a great comparison. A video I would much like to see if you ever get the chance to make that happen.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

I'll do my best...cheers.

@mcjonner 6 ай бұрын

I'd love to see this compared to a starke ported or hsu 15" or Klipsch 14"!!! I'm from Canada too

@KillerKojak 11 ай бұрын

I have a very poor budget now... i'm gonna stay with my 2 Paradigm PW2200 v2 subs each side with my PB-2000 ( regular one) under my center speaker... ( just hard to eat well this time 😥..) but THANK for this crazy good video that make me hope a better futur 😊😉

@gamingingalaxy4011 11 ай бұрын

Excellent videos as usual! Do you have any plans reviewing new klipsch rp16000 subs?

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

I do plan on reviewing the Klipsch RP1600. I also want to compare it to the Tonewinner D6000. Hopefully sometime in the next few months that will happen.

@patrickroza3073 Ай бұрын

@@SpecOfTech still on the edge of my seat

@randelldavis578 11 ай бұрын

Good afternoon Barrett, I got the PB 3000 per your review and your recommendation a few months back when you reviewed it. I have know complaints because it was an upgrade over the Klipsch spl 150 that's still at audio advice sense December because the amp went out and they're still repairing it. That's another story but my question is will the tonewinner work well with the PB 3000 if I wanted to add it to my home theater setup?

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

It's too bad the Tonewinner D6000 didn't really exist yet when I released yet when I released the review on the PB3000. The PB3000 still has great performance and is a respectable subwoofer though, I won't take that from them. You can run into integration troubles when using 2 different subwoofers with 2 different tunings. That said, it isn't impossible to integrate them but often it will take some work. For the most part, and generally speaking, it is always best/easier, to pair identical subwoofers together. You could always try to pair them, and if it doesn't work, you could sell the PB3000 and get a second D6000. Just an option to think about.

@htenthusiast2897 11 ай бұрын

Great objects comparison. How do these subwoofers compare from the sound quality standpoint?

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

I would say they are very comparable in sound quality. They both have a nice deep throaty tone to them. Both are decent quality bass, a step in the right direction towards "big boy bass", so to speak.

@SunnySkiesInAZ 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this video. I’m planning on upgrading from my x3 pb2000 pros. I’m really considering the Tonewinner but I have a question you might have some knowledge on. See I’ve also been looking at PSA 18” 1900w rms subs for around $1500 each. The driver size and power rating seems too good to be true. What am I missing here?

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

I am not sure what he has going on there. I stopped paying attention to PSA subwoofers. They are a good value, but when something looks too good to be true it usually is. I had dual PSA TV3612's in the past. They measured nice and flat, even down to the low octaves, but they lacked authority in the low frequencies. You could measure the low frequencies, just couldn't really feel them...it was weird. They also didn't have the SPL I was expecting for having 4 18" drivers in ported boxes. I am not trying to knock them, I know there are guys out there that love them...they just aren't for me anymore.

@SunnySkiesInAZ 11 ай бұрын

@@SpecOfTech do you remember what it’s power rating was on that model? How would the Tonewinner stack up against it. I would assume the dual 18” would out perform a single 15” any day of the week. I do appreciate Amir since he’s helped guide me in some past purchases like my TW7300 amp.

@calvincurry8496 11 ай бұрын

How about comparing the tonewinner 6000 to the Monolith M 15 THX sub or the Mono 13 Ultra THX Sub. They are more evenly matched

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

I would love to. I have contacted them in the past, but I was unsuccessful in getting them to send me any review units. Hopefully in the future they will come around and send me a review unit.

@taxi615 11 ай бұрын

Exited for the 12inch this might push me to sell my PB-2000's and get some dual TW 12's

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

I will be releasing the review of the 12" next week Saturday if all goes according to plan. It has impressive output also, Tonewinner really did an excellent job with these subwoofers.

@taxi615 11 ай бұрын

@@SpecOfTech yeah results are amazing

@ChihuAudioMan 10 ай бұрын

I'm not exactly rooting for SVS, but picking compression values at 12Hz and 15Hz makes no sense to me.

@7eeYeaH 7 ай бұрын

My sentiment too. I’d like he’s making the SVS look worse than it should. I get it that SVS is overpriced, but at least do it fairly.

@demonreturns4336 6 ай бұрын

SVS is making themselves look worse charging ridiculous prices

@crazydwarfer 11 ай бұрын

What if we compare both of those with RSL 12S for $800. If you ever reviewed it, can it be comparable in terms of performance?

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

I have never reviewed the RSL 12S. If anyone has ever measured them with REW, it would give you an idea...even if it is in different rooms.

@crazydwarfer 11 ай бұрын

@@SpecOfTech Audioholics did that. I am only thinking about this as it costs $800. I mean, if we are talking from price/performance perspective, maybe, RSL is even a better choice than a Tonewinner. However, it has only a 12 inch driver.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

@@crazydwarfer I agree with you, it is a great value for sure, but there is no way the RSL out performs the D6000. The RSL is only a 12" driver with 500 watts RMS and 1500 watts peak. In my humble opinion, the D6000 is well worth the extra cost over the RSL. It would all depend on your bass goals and your budget though.

@davidyee361 11 ай бұрын

@crazydwarfer D2000 is Tonewinner's 12 inch model. D4000 is a 12 inch with a larger amp....same as D6000.

@gibluap 11 ай бұрын

Actually Barrett svs did increase the price of the pb-3000 in the United States during covid and they never went back down. They used to be 1399 I know because I bought two pre covid for that price.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

Yeah it's too bad that prices went up, and of course inevitably, will never come back down. But, that price increase during COVID happened in Canada as well. The price increase that I was referring too, was one that just happened a few months back. It was a 20% increase across the board of SVS products and it was only in Canada. That is why you can see the vast difference in US priced SVS product vs Canadian priced SVS products. Of course we do lose some due to the exchange as well, but the exchange doesn't account for the vast difference alone. You'll notice with other products, the pricing from US to Canadian is pretty accurately accounted for by the exchange rate...well not with SVS anymore. It's a shame, because it tells us that SVS doesn't really value the Canadian consumer. Good thing there are other companies like Tonewinner that want our business.

@raulgutierrez1501 11 ай бұрын

OK, the price is better and performance. I would like to see how it sounds with a sound demo maybe using the movie Fury. I have dual pb3000 which gives me an additional 6db increase. I would have to hear the quality of the bass. Also, what is their service warranty in case the amp go's?

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

Watch the review at this link, I answer all those questions in it, including the Fury demo 😉. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r5p4rMuIspeUiYU.html

@bkrhino1 11 ай бұрын

Ask questions before purchasing. What are the “certain conditions” The price is excellent, but there has to be areas where they cut to offer such performance at that cost. 36 month warranty vs 60 months from SVS. You also pay for shipping on the return. We are so confident in the quality of the D6000 that we offer a generous 45-day trial period. If, within this time frame, you are not completely satisfied with your purchase, you can return it under certain conditions. We believe in providing peace of mind to our customers, which is why we also offer a 3-year warranty on the driver and amplifier, as well as a 5-year warranty against manufacturer defects in the cabinet.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

@@bkrhino1 It costs $900 CAD to offer an extra 24 months of warranty, return shipping, and much worse performance? Sorry my friend, there is no way that 24 months more in warranty, return shipping and much worse performance is worth paying extra money.

@bkrhino1 11 ай бұрын

@@SpecOfTech - I do not have a dog in this fight, but as you say my friend, potential buyers need to ask the appropriate questions as sometimes that excellent price / performance comes with cuts in other areas. I completely understand your review and agree, but the informed need to weigh the pros and cons before purchasing.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

@@bkrhino1 I did give the warranty info etc in the review. I give as much info as I can for viewers to make up their own minds...cheers.

@steveny5384 11 ай бұрын

I’d like to see how the TW compares to Monoprice Monolith 15th sub. I bet they’re very comparable

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

I have tired to get Monolith to send me subs in the past for review...no luck so far. Maybe one day they will send me 1 and I can compare them.

@steveny5384 11 ай бұрын

@@SpecOfTech That’s disappointing to hear from Monoprice. Maybe the community needs to put some social media pressure on them to send you their subs for comparison. They shouldn’t be hesitant because they too have a great bang for the buck factor. They’re just huge and ugly! 😂Good luck.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

@@steveny5384 lol thanks brother.

@Professor5180 9 ай бұрын

I'm confused what is compression? Why is the top line always ignored? Thanks

@SpecOfTech 9 ай бұрын

Compression is when the DSP is compressing the signal because the subwoofer is at it's limits, at least at those frequencies. I didn't use the compressed line because it was already compressing, which means it was past it limits. We use the last line that isn't compressed, which show the max output before it starts compressing.

@jamiesmith8307 11 ай бұрын

Paradigm x15 would be nice to compare 😊

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

No worries, that comparison is releasing tomorrow morning.

@jamiesmith8307 11 ай бұрын

I just looked at the one with the x15 and pb3000 and the 3000 was better the the x15 don't have a chance haha oh will can't have it all for only $1400 I paid for the x15 haha😅

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

@@jamiesmith8307 The X15 is a great subwoofer, you have a winner. Dont' have any remorse, it performs very well.

@sanonmars 11 ай бұрын

Should launch 12 inch driver, 400 w amp at good price. I am waiting.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

Next Saturday I am releasing the review on the Tonewinner D4000. It's a 12" driver with 800 watts RMS, and some equally impressive performance. It's priced at $1099 USD. The also have the D2000 with a 12" driver and 400 watts RMS, priced at $799. I will be doing a review on that one in the future as well, but no set date on it yet.

@ediarapi2213 11 ай бұрын

Does the tonewinner have parametric eq, if so how many bands ?

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

It does, it has 7 bands if I remember correct.

@ediarapi2213 11 ай бұрын

Now we’re talking sir tech

@redkh2017 11 ай бұрын

But with the same power and a bigger driver, is the sub still well controlled? Is the base as tight as in the SVS?

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

My impressions on the sound quality is that they are very similar. To put it simply, the Tonewinner isn't, lesser than, when compared to the PB300. If anything it's on par or better IMO.

@eddietours3728 11 ай бұрын

Interesting

@ferrellbennett3622 11 ай бұрын

You should have compared it to the PB4000

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

But the PB4000 is even more expensive. Given the output increases the PB4000 has over the PB3000, the D6000 will mostly out perform the PB4000 as well.

@madcrabber1113 11 ай бұрын

SVS raised prices in the US about 2 years ago.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, they raised the price in Canada at that time as well. Then they raised the price 20% again, but only in Canada.

@madcrabber1113 7 ай бұрын

Gotta pay for that marketing budget including travel expenses it seems?@@SpecOfTech

@marcgallant5270 11 ай бұрын

SVS could easily increase the drive size throughout their lineup and solve their price/performance issues. I highly doubt it though, th3 D6000 has made my shortlist as a canadian How SVS should respond: PB1000 = 12 inch PB2000 = 13 Inch PB3000 = 13.5 inch PB4000 = 15 inch PB16 = 18 inch Im sure there would only be a 3-5% difference in margins for SVS but they wont do it.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

You're right, SVS could easily increase their performance for their prices, especially in Canada. I doubt they will unfortunately. They have a product and business model that is working for them. I can't blame them for sticking with their winning formula, but it definitely isn't a winning formula for Canadians.

@marcgallant5270 11 ай бұрын

@SpecOfTech IMO if the competition keeps increasing their value SVS won't have a choice. People are finally starting to notice the bad value SVS provides. PSA just launched the TV18F-M for $1499 using a traditional driver. HSU has been awfully quiet, I'm sure they're cooking something up, they're overdue for a lineup refresh.

@user-sq5qn3qm2b 11 ай бұрын

Oh no, don't beat on my beloved X15s :)

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

LMAO, sorry I don't control the outcome. The X15's are still an amazing sub in their price range...but the D6000 just might be more amazing lol.

@mikelary88 11 ай бұрын

So…. 1 JTR Cap 2400, or 2 D6000’s?? 😎

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

1 JTR CAP2400 and then add a second in the future lol. The D6000 is an amazing value, and probably the budget subwoofer to beat. That said, JTR CAP2400 is a whole other animal, flat to 10hz in my room and crazy powerful. Getting 2 D6000 subwoofers will probably get you close in output in some frequencies, maybe even a little more output in some frequencies, but the JTR is still the better subwoofer IMO. Depends on what your budget allows for my friend.

@mikelary88 11 ай бұрын

@@SpecOfTech well I was set on the XR13, which my wife still wants me to get because of overall footprint and aesthetics 🤣 So I’m mentally prepared to drop a few dollars. Cap 2400 it is! Thanks for your efforts. I appreciate the informative content that you consistently put out 👊

@jondoe9510 11 ай бұрын

Well in the US you could just about buy three of the d6000s for the same price of a jtr 2400 plus the shipping they charge. They are tempting to buy but unsure of the quality of the warranty and cs compared to jtr / rythmik / svs and psa.

@gufiaito69able 11 ай бұрын

@@jondoe9510customer service from summit hi-fi is amazing I'm in the US

@shawnsiref9271 11 ай бұрын

Now let's compare it to the PSA TV1513.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

Tom V at PSA doesn't send subwoofers out for review. As a matter of fact, from my interactions with him, he hates reviewers. Sorry to say, but the chance of that comparison happening is about 0%, but that is because of Tom, not because reviewers aren't willing to work with him.

@shawnsiref9271 11 ай бұрын

@SpecOfTech That's too bad. I know Tom has an ongoing beef with Audioholics, but I didn't know that extended to all reviewers. I'll have to consider the Tonewinner D6000 now, thanks to your review.

@CandBLawnCare 11 ай бұрын

I’ve always thought SVS was always overpriced and overrated. They’re living off their name and marketing to people that don’t know any better. Only more confirmation. Thank you.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

Glad to provide some helpful info...cheers.

@edwardsanchez3708 11 ай бұрын

It's like a race. Svs came out out top/ahead for a minute for the average Ht person but new companies and new products are overtaking them.

@tfk40 11 ай бұрын

In my best GSP accent; "SVS, I'm not impressed with your performance."

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

Lmao!

@dayonerecoverdub3626 11 ай бұрын

The pb3000 has always been overpriced even before the price hike

@gaurd3 11 ай бұрын

Tonewinner is the new SVS.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

Let's hope they do better, and never forget the little guy. I don't want them to price the average consumer out of their products like SVS seems to be doing, well, at least in Canada.

@gaurd3 11 ай бұрын

@@SpecOfTech definitely good they are creating kick ass equipment for a reasonable price. Actually the same price I paid for my first real deal, pb 12 back in the day. this sub is a no brainer.

@messyfart2364 11 ай бұрын

I hate this review. I wanna sell my pb-3000 now and buy this lol. I didn't oberpay, at least, i guess. Got mine for under $1300 a few years ago.

@SpecOfTech 11 ай бұрын

lol sorry man. The PB3000 are still great subs, only upgrade them if you feel your are missing something.

@messyfart2364 11 ай бұрын

@SpecOfTech I don't feel like it's lacking, just there are better options. Customer service has been great. Almost went Monolith, but I heard about some Amp problems and got scared away. Probably just add another pb-3000 and call it a day.