Q: Is this just your previous Pikmin Versus videos compiled into one? A: 90%? Every segment has new edits, information, and corrections to a few mistakes. Basically this is the intended way to watch this series of videos.

Gran Turismo 4, done saved you a hour

>gives the answer to the title in the first 5 seconds of the video. >1 hour explaining your point. Subscribed. Thats how you fucking do videos. Now I'm fucking invested. LETS. FUCKING. GO.

Why did Nintendo not expand on Pikmin 3's bingo battle in 4. Instead we got diet challenge mode

I’d definitely say Pikmin 3, not only bc of childhood nostalgia, but just how fun bingo battle is

I remember choosing that map in Pikmin 2 with the bomb rocks on it all the time as a kid. I found out that you could actually activate the bomb by punching it, picking it up, then running with an active bomb in your hands straight into the enemy. I got so many wins via Pikmin Extinction that way.

If I remember correctly, back when me and my cousin used to play Bingo Battle at like 14 years old we had a Gentleman's Rule where if you were going to use the Rock item, you had to loudly do a 3 or 5 second countdown to give your opponent time to react (can't remember exactly how long the countdown was) I don't think it necessarily fixed the problem but it did result in some fun counterplay.

Bro is just rubbing in how he has friends who like to play Pikmin! 😭😭😭

I didn't even know pikmin had multiplayer outside of nintendo land

Finally, a new video to rewatch endlessly, instead of jumping between the 3 separate ones

You know, i was just about to binge all of your pikmin battle mode videos back to back, but i guess if there's a definitive version, then i'll just watch this 3 times instead. Sounds reasonable.

Great review, you hit all the important points. This is the first time I've seen a review of pikmin by someone who has actually played the battle mode enough to understand the strategies and balance.

When my friend and I play, we just tell each other when we have a boulder and they drop their Pikmin and move away. Making them stop what they are doing and wander in a direction for a few seconds, maybe have their captain take damage, and move back to what they are doing, seems like a fair enough item usage so it's not like it's completely wasted, but not also too broken.

I like how they saw how deadly the rocks were in Pikmin 2, and just said "okay lets make them even more deadly" for Pikmin 3.

Nobody remembers the pikmin 1 battle mode (which makes sense because it’s unlocked through a secret button combo you only see in the credits), it’s olimar vs fiddlebert, Olimar has reds and fiddlebert has the battle exclusive green pikmin (in code a carbon copy of reds). There’s about 5 maps which for the short dev time of pikmin 1 is a lot (even if they’re just remixes versions of the 5 in game maps), for perspective the resources put into this hidden sub-mode that maybe like 5 people even knew existed before it became more well-known from the internet would’ve been enough to make a whole new area as big as forest of hope or forest navel. For those who haven’t played it I recommend it if you can get someone to play it with you, it doesn’t hold up incredibly well and there aren’t any power ups or anything but it makes for a funny play session.

My memories of versus mode consist of convincing my friend to play one round, having a ton of fun, and then stopping right after cause he got bored. I still love this mode in all the games but where the hell are you gonna find another person who likes Pikmin?

I honestly like the 2 battle mode the most

Any possibility of a Mario Kart Retrospective? I love just listening to your videos when I mow the lawn!

59:00 Also, I would like to note that "Pik" is LITERALLY IN THE TITLE! You'd expect plucking Pikmin to be more integrated into the game.

thanks for giving me an excuse to rewatch these! good videos!

thats pikked up

I didn't realize how many problems Pikmin 4's versus mode had. I've never had anyone to play Pikmin with, so Pikmin 4 was the first time I could actually play a battle mode since it has CPU opponents. I thought it was fun, but I didn't have anything else to compare it to. Still wish that 3 had online Bingo Battle.

Wii tanks guy to Pikmin versus mode guy What a leap

A well written pikmin video of the modes I love with lots of splatoon music in the background? Have a new sub

this kinda makes me wish someone tries to make a pikmin battle fangame combining the best elements of each mode

Saying that Pikmin 4 has the worst one so you don't have to

Some notes on Pikmin 3's Bingo Battle that might improve your enjoyment with it, as written by the asshole who wrote the Pikipedia strategy section on it: -The game unequivocally encourages screen-peeking. The game is at its most enjoyable when players are able to know exactly what is going on with their opponent; hence the really pronounced SFX for things like cherry roulettes and item triggering. This is slightly more clear if you play the game with the originally intended Wii U gamepad and dual Wii remote setup. This is also a major shortcoming of Pikmin 3 Deluxe, since its map blocks your screen but leaves your opponent's screen clear. -A lot of the items make more sense with the context of screen peeking. For a start, lightning is actually quite useful in disabling your opponent while they're engaging enemies. It also has some use in triggering opponent bomb rocks (although keep in mind that electrocuted Pikmin are unaffected by explosions due to what I can only assume is a programming error that doesn't allow status conditions to overlap). -The boulder storm is a pressure item, and you're supposed to keep an eye on your friend's roulette to notice when it's being readied. There is no way to avoid it consistently due to its massive spawn radius around the player and speed, as you demonstrated. There are, however, ways to be clever about it. Standing near enemies when it's used against you can result in some easy kills, and standing near any raised objects can potentially offer protection. The reason it's a pressure item is because it effectively prevents you from starting any new tasks that require large groups of Pikmin to be carried around. The major disadvantage for your opponent, however, is that they can only keep the pressure on you so long as they DON'T use the item; preventing them from getting items that may benefit them. If you're clever, it can actually allow you to put pressure on your opponent, by restricting opportunities where they would want to let it go to waste or give you an advantage. -Pikmin brawls are, unlike in Pikmin 2, greatly discouraged. They are messy and hard to control; and effectively only good for biding time. Since Pikmin respawn after being killed in brawls, they are also heavily weighted in favour of the player whose Onion is closest to the fight. This is intended game design; you're supposed to fight as an absolute last resort. Battles are weighed heavily in favour of the defender, not the aggressor; sometimes regardless of how large their armies are compared to each other. This is a big change from Marble Battle, but it is part of Bingo Battle's greater encouragement of planning and strategy over brute strength (Marble Battle's major weakness, in my eye). Additionally, Pikmin are actually quite simple to control in fights since they act by very simple rules. They will prioritise brawling over items or enemies, and will thus always attack other Pikmin when thrown. When CHARGED, however, they prioritise the item being focused on. The reason they may still end up in brawls after this fact is as a result of Pikmin attacking THEM, instead. I'll also note that Ultra-Spicy spray does actually improve the chances of winning brawls, but maturity doesn't. -The stages are a lot more balanced than it seems. My Bingo Battle buddy and myself are still constantly not sure if the fortress or the floor is the better location to spawn in. The fortress essentially gives you full access to most treasures from the start, and a significant amount of control over the map. The disadvantage of actually carrying items back to base being a nightmare is the major hurdle, but luck and good strategy can assure a lot of consistent wins. Rusted Labyrinth also isn't entirely broken due to the fact that the lower player can still gain access to the upper floor, but it's not quite as balanced regardless. In all my time playing, I never found that any of the maps present a significant advantage to one player that the other doesn't have. That's just me, though. -This is sort of a personal opinion, but I see Deluxe as a pretty major downgrade in a lot of ways. Even beyond the somewhat confusingly designed map display, it's just very obvious that the game wasn't designed to be played in this state. The controls are clumsy and confusing, there are FAR more bugs for some reason, and the changes to things like charging can severely affect the complex balance that items have, as well as the nature of brawling with other Pikmin entirely. -Buried Pond sucks.

My opinion on the versus modes are that. Pikmin 2's is the most nostalgic, As thats the one I played over and over again with friends. Pikmin 3's is the most thought out and well designed. The bingo mechanic was a fun way to give incentive to go for specific things instead of just stretching your forces too thin going around grabbing everything, but also to go after especially specific things to stop your opponent from finishing a line they're working on. While still keeping the victory macaroon/marble from pikmin 2 as an alternative option. And Pikmin 4's is probably the most integrated with the rest of the game, with the actual story mode making use of the dandori battles and in a sense preparing you to face off against your friends.

The preface was exactly what i was thinking when i clicked the video lol

Every time I've played this (which is quite a lot with 5-6 different people) we always truce the rock item, and either give a warning we will use it in 2-3 seconds, intentionally only use it when the other player has 10 or fewer pikmin nearby, or sometimes say the rock means you can no longer use cherry items and have it as a hindrance. I don't know anyone who thinks it's ok to just use it and let it carry out carnage on the other player cause we all think it's not fun to just upset the game that much.

i do appreciate how at least we have 3 very different vs experiences, rather than just 1 formula nintendo keeps reusuing. It helps make each game feel different, and it's why I like each vs mode for different reasons rather than having one clear favorite.

Fun Fact: Pikmin 2 versus was the first time my sister(older than me) won against me in a game in a really long time.

I still have great memories playing bingo battle with my cousin during family gatherings, but that makes sense because it’s so dang fun!

I wish they kept the pikmin being able to fight each other

What makes Pikmin 4's lacking Bingo Battle even MORE atrocious is the fact that its _part of the main story._ That means they put more effort into Pikmin 3's bonus side mode than they did an integral part of Pikmin 4's story mode.

But which pikmin is the cutest?

How about Pikmin 3's Bingo Battle with the map design philosophy of Pikmin 2 using themes from the story mode of Pikmin 4 with Pikmin 4's item competition (without the permanent laying down when knocked off part, obviously) and sneak bomb that causes half of your opponent's bingo entries to be ejected from their onion for you to collect?

Man I so wish i could find more people playing bingo battle. Its such a great game and i can only find like 3-4 KZfaqrs who played it and only did lke 1 rounds most of the time which i understand but i love to see the caos

I thought this was a video ranking the Pikmin based on how good they are on the VS Mode, forgetting you already did that lol.

The answer is Pikmin 2 4 player battle. One of the best mods for Pikmin.

The best rock defense is to throw your Pikmin like a mad man all over the place

My brother and I just warn each other when we get the boulder

Ok Dubble whistle is to prevent you from accidently just removing all your picmin when you didn't want to that's why I like it

I'm surprised you didn't point out how cheap it is to just take the pre-existing battle mode from Pikmin 4's story and just make it the only option for VS, when the bingo battle is a completely new, fully fleshed game mode built from the ground up for VS.

pikmin 3 multiplayer is kinda like troll face simulator. me or my sister begging eachother not to use the boulder item and then using it was the funniest thing at the time

Did you know that for 3 and 4, winged pikmin usually don’t instakill 1 pellet posies instead of flying and attaching on to them, but if you go under the pellet and throw a winged pikmin it’ll instakill the pellet

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"im going to head to bed" pikmin silokhawk video : wsp

the way that you described the 2p battles is exactly how I feel about the games themselves with 2 being my favorite 3 being probably the best and 4 being so close to being perfect that is upsets me. I wish there was a way to turn off some of the really annoying things that are in 4

They removed the picking from pikmin?! That’s like removing the pockets in pocket monsters.

I think the answer is that multiplayer is not the core of Pikmin. Of course, the battle modes made the games more robust in what they could offer to players. But it is not the thesis of Pikmin, like it is for Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart and Splatoon. Still, I would love to see an attempt at a versus mode that has almost as much billing as the story, because as an RTS there is so much possibility for a good competitive game.

in bingo battle just go under the onion if you're close enough because it breaks the boulders

Interesting that the Pikmin Wiki section was taken out from the Pikmin 2 section. Was it taken out due to it being fixed after the video was made?

i REALLY hope someone at nintendo sees this before they make 5.

Honestly, your thoughts on P4s battle mode reflect a lot of my thoughts on the game in general. Almost every change to 4 (and even 3 Deluxe to a lesser extent) simplifies the game and discards what the first 3 games introduced and evolved on. Combat, which was once incredibly nuanced and dynamic was completely killed, now being reduced to nothing more than a glorified cutscene or worse, a 5 second inconvenience. Caves have undergone so many changes that they might as well be like the Pikmin 3 "caves". I could go on but it was just a huge disappointment for me, especially with how previous entries chose to evolve concepts rather than remove them.

peak video

ANOTHER SILOKHAWK VIDEO :D

Anyone else think that wing pikmin should be immune to falling off of the map?

Pikmin 1 has the best vs mode

Hi silowhawk, I know this is kind've unrelated, but I remember you mentioning that you were gonna make a Pikmin 4 review. Do you still plan on doing that or nope?

Are you still doing a full Pikmin 4 review?

I LOVE PIKMIN!!!!!!

I'm hoping for bingo battle in the DLC when they add in challenge mode.

Fun fact: in pikmin 4 dandori battle you can hit the opposing captain when thow pikmin at them

with the blue bois in vs battle having a higher attack strength, if they were to have this 1.5x damage boost in the base game in pikmin 2 onwards, how drastically would the tier list change? Also great vid, here’s to hoping for pikmin 5 before the heat death of the universe

Wait you can’t force the what stage you want in the switch version? I knew it was random by default but I didn’t know if was always randomly generated

we already know its pikmin 3. nothing beats the bingo mode

I really like these versus modes, but if only they can be play online. Also, Dandori battle needs more maps. 6 is too small and that's saying something when Pikmin 2 versus have 10 maps and they're random.

Bingo Battle is Peak! P2 2 Player Battle holds up Surpringsly well & Dandori Battle whilst not being anywhere as good as the other two, still can be a decent time.

Throwing those Pikmin 3 cartridges was not necessary 😢😢😢

Tbh i think the biggest flaw of pikmin 3's pvp is lack of any sort of online play.

Me, I’m the best Pikmin battle mode.

not pikmin 4.

I think its called leafy showdown because in the story mode leaflings have leaves

Pikmin 3 is one of the best co op games of all time

31:35 I just... never had any issues with the boulders, they were always really simple for me to avoid? though I watch my opponents item roll, if I see that then they use it I know the timing for it, but I was trained by pikmin 2's caves

1:17:31 r.i.p. all the pikmin

i wish i could play these modes but nobody wants anything to do with me when it comes to multiplayer :(

My favourite is still Pikmin 2's but Pikmin 3 is also very much enjoyable. Pikmin 4 I haven't personally played as I bought it for my little sister instead of myself. I look forward to playing it with her next time I visit my family's house.

33:13 just go under onion this is run save or go to other capitan when you see the rocks

it’s 3

during this video i went to ebay and bought pikmin 2

Really hate the Switch for making the worst titles in nearly every respective franchise become record-breaking best-sellers.

by the way, there is a relatively active pikmin 2 & 3 competitive scene that I think people dont talk about enough. here's the twitch page: www.twitch.tv/sprouthouse/videos

Its 2 but 3 is also epic

The answer is pikmin adventure's.

When I was a boy - all the neighborhood children would play pikmin 2 battle mode. This one kid was an absolute prodigy - undefeated. But only when he put the controller on the floor and played with his bare feet. Whenever it was toe boys turn he would peel off his putrid socks and yell “it’s tootsie time!” I prefer bingo battle personally.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl is the answer

Pikmin 1.

hello silo

Pikmin 1?

27:31 huh?

Reminder that Pikmin is single player and only 4% of the fans will play the multiplayer This video won't make Nintendo make a better MP in 5

The answer is not Pikmin 4

I would 100% play a dedicated Pikmin multiplayer game. Call it PIKMIN DANDORI BATTLE!

Pikmin 4 is like Mario Kart Wii: its main mode is amazing but its side mode is mediocre asf

Seriously man... They BUTCHERED the Switch port for Pikmin 2. Over-sanitizing everything and removing any mildly "offensive" jokes, removing the weed plant, prioritizing the camera over swarming, and REMOVING all of the versus mode layouts? This is ridiculous! :(

Pikmin 4 multiplayer in general is just disappointing. First off, there’s no second captain. You can’t use another custom character, you can’t use olimar.. nothing. Basically removing the element of multitasking. Then, even after that.. they give you the dog, which is more like playing as a Pikmin than a captain.. and it’s a heavy afterthought. And even after that, the second player in the story mode doesn’t control the dog.. IT CONTROLS A ROCK THROWER.. literally, it’s just “little brother mode”.. since all you can do.. is throw a tiny pebble that does 2 damage. And that’s not even starting, on Dandori.

You called Olimar, Olimer, at the start of the Pikmin 2 section 💀

Sry couldnt watch the Video in High res Cause of Money so i will Not watch it. But i leave a comment for the KZfaq Algorithmus 😅