Which Pitchshifters are the BEST...Updated
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In this video I go through the latest Pitchshifter plugins on the market, and do a comparison to see how the work with single note riffs, chords, and sustained chord. And which one will come out best......
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0:00 - Welcome
0:11 - Previous Video Catch Up
0:35 - Pitchshift Plugins List
1:51 - Guitar Playthrough
Single Note RIFFS
2:47 - Single Note - Pitch Proof
3:02 - Single Note - Droptaver
3:23 - Single Note - TH-U Pitchshifter
3:43 - Single Note - Guitar Rig Pitch Pedal
4:14 - Single Note - Neural DSP - Petrucci
4:29 - Single Note - Helix - Poly Capo
Chords
5:00 - Chords - Pitch Proof
5:18 - Chords - Droptaver
5:32 - Chords - TH-U Pitchshifter
5:47 - Chords - Guitar Rig Pitch Pedal
6:09 - Chords - Neural DSP - Petrucci
6:26 - Chords - Helix - Poly Capo
Sustained Chords
6:52 - Chords - Pitch Proof
7:09 - Chords - Droptaver
7:25 - Chords - TH-U Pitchshifter
7:41 - Chords - Guitar Rig Pitch Pedal
7:59 - Chords - Neural DSP - Petrucci
8:18 - Chords - Helix - Poly Capo
8:39 - What Did you Think?
9:23 - Thanks for Watching
9:42 - Shout Out to Patrons!
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@DapperHesher 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic comparison, Gary! Thanks for the hard work.
@dendyadiluhung8315 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting comparison videos you had Some of those plugin definitely sounds good, but Line 6 Polycapo hands down! Great and informative videos man
@omynel 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, such a useful video. I thought Archetype: Petrucci would be the new standard but the PolyCapo sounds great.
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat Poly Capo
@travisself7583 4 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I thought too!! I am adding this plugin now
@lillehammerexperimental 7 ай бұрын
Nice one man thank you 🙏
@aangovan Жыл бұрын
nice information man
@AnalogJourney 11 ай бұрын
This saves me hours! Thanks a bunch! 😊😊
@GaryHiebner 11 ай бұрын
Awesome. Glad it was helpful
@BodyOfPlayMusic Жыл бұрын
Amazing video!!
@GaryHiebner Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@timonseidl9803 9 ай бұрын
Great Video, thank you. It would be great, if you could comment on the latency for each of these plugins. I
@gilgermano Ай бұрын
muito bom! obg!!
@ikestoddard2458 2 жыл бұрын
Pedals near and dear to my heart too!
@Nickolas_Riff 18 күн бұрын
Amazing! thanks for this video, you can test Hypertone from polychrome DSP
@GaryHiebner 11 күн бұрын
Yeah I wanna test that one soon
@spencersguitarcovers 4 ай бұрын
The pitch effect in Line 6's POD HD PRO X is top notch as well, I use it all the time!
@GaryHiebner 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if this is pretty similiar to the Helix PolyCapo module?
@judiaz03 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. i got the hx stomp and i was using the simple pitch, now i have to check the polycapo. I trought that the petrucci was the best way to do it becouse i tried the 14 days free sounds so good to me.
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I also had a Stomp and was using the Simple Pitch. But then I got some information back from a Line6 user to try out PolyCapo and was blown away. The name doesn't really make you think Drop Pitch. Replace all your Simple Pitch Blocks with the Poly Capo. But it is quite heavy on the processor. So if its greyed out then it means your chain already has too much and an instance of PolyCapo can't be added.
@judiaz03 2 жыл бұрын
@@GaryHiebner thanks bro i really appreciate
@cmd_f5 2 жыл бұрын
Polycapo still sounds the best to me. Ps: Cheers for adding chapters/timecode to the video. Makes it super easy to jump around and compare. By far Pitch Proof was the worst. Did ok on single notes but totally fell over with chords. Cheers :)
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah PitchProof wasn’t that great. And I had high hope for the new STL Tones Droptaver. But they do say they working on a new polyphonic pitchshifter. So that should be exciting
@lorenmorgan1931 Жыл бұрын
Yeah all my Floyds are tuned to half step, so I use Agean to tune to standard and if artifacts a ton. The poly capo on the line 6 is indeed the best, I had it on Helix. Now I'm all vst until I get the Tonex. Is this available in the stomp? I would buy one just for that function alone.
@stuartharris-jones9433 Жыл бұрын
Great video, and really helpful in deciding where to get my drop tuning from. Quick question though: Where in the signal chain is your pitch shifter? As I understand it, they work best before everything else in the chain, but I'd like to still use my HX Stomp then downtune in the software after. Will this work, or am I forced into vst guitar tones to make this work? Cheers
@GaryHiebner Жыл бұрын
Its best to put before anything else in the signal chain? What are you using to pitch shift down? I can highly recommend the PolyCapo in the Helix Stomp
@stuartharris-jones9433 Жыл бұрын
@@GaryHiebner Thanks for the response. Yknow I didn't actually think the Poly Capo worked on HX Stomp, as it was always greyed out in the editing software. I guess it's just very resource-intensive, as it works on a patch with little else on.... my plan I think will be to get Helix Native (cheaper, since I own the Stomp), and do reverb and other heavy stuff in there, so the Poly Capo can sit on the Stomp at the front of the signal chain. It's that or Pitch Proof destroying everything at the back end of my chain! Thanks for the insight 👍
@GaryHiebner Жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely try out PolyCapo. One of the better pitch shifters have used but it is CPU intensive. But yeah if you go Helix Native you can add an instance of Helix Native on each track and just use the PolyCapo there and used the Helix Stomp for other tasks.
@KusabiJr 2 жыл бұрын
Polycapo still sounds best and I think that's due to the Auto EQ. I sort of managed to make the same result with Petrucci by not bypassing the EQ or even better, creating another selective EQ plugin in between. However, that's too much trouble for something that Polycapo simply accomplishes with a single slider
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Hard to beat PolyCapo
@imraanakollo-arenz1449 2 жыл бұрын
If there is a part 3 I'd be keen on seeing the presonus pitch shifter in action
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
I totally forgot about Studio One pitch shifter. Will test it out and let you know.
@jamesirving3717 2 жыл бұрын
Just commented the same thing. Be cool to know, doubt it come close to the helix, maybe sit around the mid tier zone. But what I love about presonus is they're always working hard to improve the software. Definitely use your connection there with ideas and suggestions!
@jamesirving3717 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video dude! But curious, why didn't you use the whammy pedal on the ampire?
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
I tried to use plugins that weren't DAW specific. So more 3rd party pitch plugins that can be used in any DAW. But now thinking about it you can buy Ampire separately. Maybe in another update video will test it out
@jamesirving3717 2 жыл бұрын
@@GaryHiebner 100%! You can buy the ampire rig and but the whammy is part of the High Gain bundle. The one with the pineapple 🍍 Love the videos dude, good to see some solid SA content 💪
@fcknugget1654 7 ай бұрын
Hey guys, quick question. When I'm using the pitch glider on my POD, I can't get rid of the original pitch/tone, so it becomes a harmony. Turning the mix to 100% doesn't help either. Has anyone encountered this/Solved the problem?
@RolandoRamosTorres 5 ай бұрын
I think you should take cost as a variable too.
@garrettendi 4 ай бұрын
Watching for the first time today, and I used the Pitchproof plugin (also for the first time) yesterday. It's not the best but I don't think it's the worst and it's free which is great for my bank balance! What I will say is I noticed artifacts early on and I managed to clean it up by playing around with the settings in the bottom of the GUI. Rather bizarrely, I think I noticed less artifacts when I switched off "Transient Fix". No idea why. Also I noticed that once your guitar gets a certain amount out of tune, Pitchproof really struggles. But I'm happy with it for a free plugin, and I see no reason right this second to pay for anything better!
@jackjohnson8446 Жыл бұрын
I use NeuralDSP plugs with Gig Performer - works great drop-tuned and with zero latency.
@GaryHiebner Жыл бұрын
Yeah Gig Performer looks amazing. I want to try it out and build a digital live setup.
@selmics 2 жыл бұрын
Most pitch shifters seem to be ok up to about two semitones maybe three, I think more than that is maybe asking too much. Great video
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! I was trying to push them to the max. Most do 2 to 3 semitones fine. But am always super surprised how well Helix Poly Capo handles even up to 7 or even 8 semitones down
@DapperHesher 2 жыл бұрын
Tell that to any of the bands using them.
@anggeryudiarta9526 Жыл бұрын
hey, are we need the hardware when use helix 6 poly capo? .cause there is no polycapo in my helix 6 ..thamks
@GaryHiebner Жыл бұрын
There's PolyCapo in Helix Native
@GERMAUG 2 жыл бұрын
great video,, winner is the poly, THU its a surprise really, it's good for how old it is. please compare with the Digitech THE DROP, i have one and dont know if its better than the pretucci.
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah a Drop pedal is on my wishlist. When I get one I will do an updated video
@ShowboatJenkins 2 жыл бұрын
Poly Capo is a clear winner!
@jrcguitar 9 ай бұрын
Do you have a link to the best place to download the PolyCapo plug in?
@GaryHiebner 9 ай бұрын
Its in the Line6 Helix application.
@mikehunt576 8 ай бұрын
Kuassa whamy, 1990s digitech dimebag cooked whamy For clean pitch shift and more any neural dsp with Transpose - pitch shift is great, i use their mesa boogie effects section ad well
@GaryHiebner 8 ай бұрын
I haven't used the Kuassa Whammy yet. Is it good?
@mikehunt576 8 ай бұрын
@@GaryHiebner very good, depends on what you want, if its something like drop tune and whammy like the digitech its perfect..I prefer using my neural dsp mesa boogie with the amps off, it has a transpose function that is very clean with no extra colouring *diode leek the pedal* and in addition to this my mesa boogie has some drive comp and mod pedals if I want.
@creepymcpeepers 2 жыл бұрын
How do eq pitch shifted bass to drop a I keep gear a clicking sound
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
What you using to pitch down and how far are you pitching down? I find with bass you can't really go further than 2-3 semitones or else the sound really starts breaking up
@creepymcpeepers 2 жыл бұрын
@@GaryHiebner I have a bass in drop b and just pitch shifting with the logic whammy down to drop a
@CitizenFortress 11 күн бұрын
ok but how do I get polycap without a line 6 helix board and only with guitar rig 7?
@GaryHiebner 11 күн бұрын
There's Helix Native :)
@kibanboxings Жыл бұрын
What dou you think about Pitch Shifter from Amplitube 5?
@GaryHiebner Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's not the best. Too many artifacts in the sound compared to these.
@tonyohyeahyeah 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Where can I find or get access to the poly capo? Also I'm curious to know how the NDSP Archetype Gojira wow pedal stacks up with the rest (or if it's the same as the Petrucci). NDSP made a video and even provides presets to transpose using it. To add more logs in the fire, what about a DigiTech DROP pedal compared to all the above?! Maybe a part 3 in the near future?
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think Gojira and Petrucci are using the same pitchshifting algorithm. Except with Gojira its a whammy and you can't just input to drop it by 7 semitones. But its easy to pedal up or down to get -12 or +12 semitones
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
Poly Capo is from Line6 Helix Native. And is also in all the Helix amp modeling hardware units.
@Zhanibek.S 2 жыл бұрын
@@GaryHiebner can you do video about pitchshifter in bias fx2 and gojira neural dsp plugin i want hear differences
@IleniaCore 3 ай бұрын
Stupid question: can I use polycapo as a "standalone" plugin? or I need an helix or something similar?
@GaryHiebner 3 ай бұрын
PolyCapo runs on Helix. So you will need Helix Native. You can run this as a srandalon application.
@GaryHiebner 3 ай бұрын
PolyCapo is also in all the Helix Hardware. So Native is the software version of Helix.
@IleniaCore 3 ай бұрын
@@GaryHiebner thank you! I will try it out 😬 I saw they have 15 days free
@yobanyhernandez125 2 жыл бұрын
Poly capo vs drop pedal would be nice ☺️
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
If I get my hands on a Drop I will definitely do a video on it
@capedukewuhaha Жыл бұрын
I got both and on HX Effects the Poly Capo does cut away some frequencies. You slightly notice it and makes no difference in real life. But Drop Pedal doesn't affect tone that much
@ikestoddard2458 2 жыл бұрын
Please also do pedals?
@GaryHiebner 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ike. Would love to do a pedal comparison as well. Its on the wishlist. Getting a Digitech Drop and Whammy v4 DT. What other pedals are also good at pitchshifting? Heard the Ricochet is a contender as well. But that has fixed settings. So some intervals you can't get to.
@ikestoddard2458 2 жыл бұрын
@@GaryHiebner I am going to dig into my pedal pile and get back to you. Parallel to Boss Octave-3 was another company who did pedals like the Drop, so I will have a couple suggestions. Cheers!
@sonidojamon Жыл бұрын
The makers of Pitchproof (Agean Music) have a 65$ plugin, Pitchometry that is like Pitchproof on steroids(and polyponic!) Best pitch plugin around. Period!
@GaryHiebner Жыл бұрын
Oh wow. Didnt know they had another product. Will definitely check that out.
@pepedecoatza Жыл бұрын
@@GaryHiebner wondering if you are planning a comparison update about poly shift effects for guitar again. I Highly appreciated you work
@actuallyasriel 10 ай бұрын
Pitchometry has the same problem that Pitchproof has for me, and that's that it completely fails with lower notes. It's basically unusable for bass or extended range guitars.
@jann_rygh 6 ай бұрын
don't know what I'm doin wrong but Poly Capo sounds terrible - using Babyface Pro, Cubase Pro 13, Beyerdynamic 880s, and different Guitars on Neural DSP Plini X - Input Level is about -12 ~ -9 and the Artifacts are just Groundbreaking 😂 Petrucci is ok but only when I use the Plugin as Amp, when I use just transpose, also terrible. Playing with Fast and Stable on 128 Buffersize 48khz 24 bit. Trauer
@GaryHiebner 6 ай бұрын
Are you putting the PolyCapo first in the signal chain? It needs to be before the amp sim.
@jann_rygh 6 ай бұрын
@@GaryHiebner yes, tried it before and after - the Attack is gone and I just used -4
@AnonymousMetalHeadCrossBone 4 күн бұрын
There's a reason why pitchproof is free, it is just terrible.
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