WHICH SMASH CHARACTERS DESERVE TO STAY? (ft. Marss, ESAM & WaDi)

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2 жыл бұрын

Imagine: We are in some distant world, and Nintendo gets the news that the next Smash game can only have 30-40 characters. Which ones get the boot? Naturally, our SMASH PROS could answer this better than anyone; we got them to give their opinion.
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@lancelee338 2 жыл бұрын

14:20 The funniest thing about this interaction is because everyone’s mad for a different reason. Esam is mad because Byleth was up there in the first place. Marss is mad because he wanted too many Fire Emblem characters. Wadi’s mad because he doesn’t want Sora. It’s a funny interaction

@G_yeezy 2 жыл бұрын

Sora deserves it though

@ShallBePurified 2 жыл бұрын

I'm mad they decided to add in 4 Fire Emblem characters and 0 Xenoblade characters.

@ice5615 2 жыл бұрын

@@G_yeezydefinitely just like change his moves

@nuibaba280 2 жыл бұрын

@@G_yeezy Sora's never coming back in a limited Smash roster. He's an expensive Square Enix AND Disney character. Imagine how much they had to pay for the Mickey keychain alone lmao.

@G_yeezy 2 жыл бұрын

@@nuibaba280 true but again he was number one on the roster pick for smash

@ShayTheValiant 2 жыл бұрын

I think the original 12 characters are permanently in Smash at this point. Yes, the Smash team wanted to replace Jigglypuff and Ness in the past, but they ultimately decided not to. I doubt they would get rid of them now.

@zanpakutoman4225 2 жыл бұрын

Is this a wishlist roster, iconic list, or a prediction roster? Because I'd have a completely different list for each. I think the original Smash 64 cast would likely stay in, if they don't want to stray too far for a new Smash. But, a wishlist is a completely different story.

@castform7 2 жыл бұрын

Same, I get the argument of why not but if they've been around for so long a d have been in every Smash game, it just wouldn't feel like Smash without them. And if Ness's argument is irrelevancy, we might as well take out Falcon too. These characters have just been around too long for them to jet the boot now.

@slam6802 2 жыл бұрын

Eh, I can definitely see removing Puff, but Ness?

@theseb5981 2 жыл бұрын

@@slam6802 they were gonna replace him with Lucas, but they kept Ness bc Mother 3 was in development hell

@slam6802 2 жыл бұрын

@@theseb5981 I was referring to a future game, but thank you :)

@apb7955 2 жыл бұрын

"Arms isn't even a game. It was like a reward for buying the console" -WaDi

@ShallBePurified 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that they so easily kept 4 Fire Emblem characters but no Xenoblade or Kid Icarus characters is a travesty.

@itsturniptime3699 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to pull up the fact that Greninja won the last Pokémon of the Year by an absolute landslide. Not to mention he won the Pokémon of the Year before that too in Japan. Greninja is so popular to the point where there are groups of people who are genuinely upset he’s not in the modern games or anime as a hyper prominent role.

@slam6802 2 жыл бұрын

That’s fair, but I counter you this. Walk up to random people on the street and show them both Pokémon and ask for their names. Every single person who can name Greninja will also be able to name Pikachu. I just can’t say the same if it was reversed.

@loganp5833 2 жыл бұрын

@@slam6802 You are comparing based on a different factor. He's saying that Greninja won the Pokémon of the Year, I'm assuming that those who voted are fans or at least interested in Pokémon franchise. I can also counter what you said with this: Those same people can easily name Bulbasaur, Pidgey or Rattata instead of Greninja. Does that make them more iconic than Greninja ? It's up to you to believe so but I think it's just purely based on seniority (and marketing) and I rather give my trust on someone who knows well its subject than a random in general.

@salmence100 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta agree, you can't only hold Pokemon to the 'most recognizable from a random bystander' standard. Otherwise we'd be seeing Goombas and Koopas in the roster.

@itsturniptime3699 2 жыл бұрын

@@salmence100 *Piranha Plant*

@walkermartin5366 2 жыл бұрын

@@itsturniptime3699 plant isnt a koopa its less recognizable but a better character to make a fighter

@PYGMYSMASHER30 2 жыл бұрын

The objectively most bias tierlist to come out of these 3 LOL

@aetherjuice 2 жыл бұрын

ikr, they're so clueless when it comes to every franchise on there

@firefatesgaming1855 2 жыл бұрын

Lol. Way to little pokemon greninja and lucario would still be in the game. Nintendo would be stupid to not put them 2 of the most popular pokemon in..

@BigFlex516 2 жыл бұрын

@@firefatesgaming1855 greninja was popular like 5 years ago and lucario was popular 10. Big doubt

@firefatesgaming1855 2 жыл бұрын

@@BigFlex516 your not right there still both very relevant pokemon.. Greninja is still on of the most popular pokemon that did not change. You can look it up greninja was the most popular pokemon of 2020 and lucario was the second most popular.

@ffchickens1636 2 жыл бұрын

@@firefatesgaming1855 not to mention, I remember seeing that apparently Lucario is main character for the anime now

@Crowded. 2 жыл бұрын

Getting rid of Hero that quickly is an odd decision, Dragon Quest has been the most iconic traditional JRPG franchise for decades, especially in Japan

@sadgeman4589 2 жыл бұрын

It's big in Japan but it never really made waves outside it. I think the fact that Fire Emblem and Final Fantasy got representation before Dragon Quest says something too.

@aetherius6221 2 жыл бұрын

@@sadgeman4589 I mean fire emblem in smash is a huge meme but I'm here for it because I've played every game in the series (or it's remake at least, man I'm not playing fe1 or 2 that shit is clunky as hell) except 3 and its remake so I'm not complaining lmao

@Crowded. 2 жыл бұрын

@@sadgeman4589 DQ11 had yet to release at the time of smash 4 while FF7R was revealed the same year Cloud joined Smash, so Cloud was likely chosen as promotion. Square Enix was also clearly conservative with smash reps before ultimate since cloud only got 2 songs, so it makes sense Hero was released in the beginning of the first fighters pass.

@Geneolgia 2 жыл бұрын

I think Hero is the safest Square Enix rep to come back in a future Smash game if it happens, second is Cloud.

@Wizard_Lizard_ 2 жыл бұрын

Real talk, no DLC characters (especially the guests) are safe from being cut. Same goes for characters who were cut before, such as Snake, PT, etc.

@gabrfasass2058 2 жыл бұрын

Mars’s was somehow honest with himself about zss

@im_Spade_ 2 жыл бұрын

There's a first time for everything 🤣

@Hexumonium 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, right. They should make ZSS the reward for winning. I can't remember if SSB has done that before, but it would be a fun tribute to the actual games if they did that.

@TedjiroKamado 2 жыл бұрын

@@Hexumonium zss used to be locked behind samus final smash. or if you did button inputs before picking her i think.

@Core12054 2 жыл бұрын

Roy and Falco being in there is a strange decision. In the actual Fire Emblem series Roy is not a fleshed out or interesting character, and is from a mediocre game. Like Falcon he's basically a Smash character, but wasn't iconic enough to be in Brawl or Smash 4 outside of DLC. Falco is not an iconic character. It's only because of his prevalence in Melee that Smash players hold him in high regard.

@deleonfountain8220 2 жыл бұрын

It’s like you said, they’re iconic smash characters like falcon. They’ll make it on that premise alone.

@mitchelljohnson6106 2 жыл бұрын

I do think it’s weird that they took the most represented FE series in smash(awakening, with 3 character, thought two of them are echoes.) and make it unrepresented.

@artimist0315 2 жыл бұрын

I agree and would ad snake to the list, not because I don't like the character but because if we only have 36 characters, the number of 3rd party should be really limmited to keep the roster well balanced. I would also replace byleth by daraen, byleth got not style and his specials are boring, while daraen has one of the coolest design and his moves, while they shouldn't be ressource based, are unic enough and make a good moveset.

@alexmartin6561 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Roy should be out be out. If too many FE reps is a law in smash then it should be a awakening character that replaces him. Marth is too iconic as the first lord, Ike is regularly in the top of the popularity polls in all FE, awakening saved the series so robin or lucina get in, and byleth would represent the latest FE game that gets replaced when a new game comes out.

@artimist0315 2 жыл бұрын

I meant Robin, daraen is his name in french.

@TubercuLucas 2 жыл бұрын

Jigglypuff is in every Smash game. I think all original roster characters would make it in to any new smash

@ONLY_RR7 2 жыл бұрын

She barely made it into brawl, so if they had were to cut an original character it’d probably be Puff

@IdentificationBlank 2 жыл бұрын

If your gonna tell me that if they had to cut an original. I honestly think it should be ness don’t get me wrong I don’t hate him at all but I just don’t think his game is popular enough to keep him afloat and unlike captain falcon ness’s identity isn’t made from smash or at the very least isn’t as apparent as captain falcon. Puff is just to iconic for the series being the first joke character and her influence in melee. But still I think if there is gonna be a new game all 12 SHOULD be in but if they had to cut one my guess is ness

@sobbles6242 2 жыл бұрын

@@ONLY_RR7 at this point they are not gonna cut any of the original 12 since puff made it in smash 4

@ericchung4503 2 жыл бұрын

@@IdentificationBlank but there was already pikachu and stuff and yet out of all gen 1 pokemon, they decide puff. I say she even barely got in and other pokemon like mewtwo should have been part of the og roster. Ness is more iconic than puff in my opinion

@IdentificationBlank 2 жыл бұрын

@@ericchung4503 we gotta remember that this games is marketed toward kids now tell me if your a ten year old average kid in 2021 who do you think you might know more jigglypuff from one of the biggest games franchises ever or ness from mother :/? Earth bound sold 500,000 copies Pokémon BLUE sold 33 million copies so numbers don’t lie puff is def more iconic

@nickbotful 2 жыл бұрын

I like how they talk about ryu being iconic for his genre then immediately boot out hero, who comes from a series that made the rpg genre the way it is lol

@killanook777 2 жыл бұрын

Dragon quest is literally one of the most popular video game franchises in Japan smh

@sroth2021 2 жыл бұрын

The game series may be important but the character isn't iconic. Ryu is iconic.

@williamdiamant457 2 жыл бұрын

Cloud represents the JRPG franchise and is much more iconic as a character. Hero is great, but when you're cutting over half the cast, he's gotta go.

@artimist0315 2 жыл бұрын

We are talking about character here, not game series. Ryu is a super iconic character, everyone that have a slight idea of the video game landscape know who he is, Hero is just not as iconic as his franchise is. I think the same thing about minecraft, as super iconic game and one of my favourite, but outside of the smashbase, who gives a f**** about Steve.

@lifetake3103 2 жыл бұрын

@@artimist0315 I think a testament to your point in the series being iconic not the character is the fact the character is 4 characters in one with his skins. Not just color swaps, but skins because its the series and not the character.

@edsonolmedomunoz224 2 жыл бұрын

Just as a fact, if I'm not wrong Greninja is actually right now the most loved Pokémon in the last years

@ChiodosBlowsDogs 2 жыл бұрын

Without a doubt he is the most popular pokemon in Japan according the the latest pole I saw which was sometime last year I think but, it was above pika and zard

@HoshiArt 2 жыл бұрын

2021 popularity poll top 5 in order were 5th: Umbreon, 4th: Charizard, 3rd: Mimikyu, 2nd: Lucario, 1st: Greninja

@afoxy2028 2 жыл бұрын

I mean he wasn’t in the actual Pokemon game so I mean not so far fetched

@fendour_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@HoshiArt kinda sad to only see one 1st generation there... kids these days

@acola 2 жыл бұрын

@@fendour_ there are 5 in the top 30 from gen 1. Gengar got 10th bulbasaur got 13th pikachu 19th and eevee 20th.

@Xeconis 2 жыл бұрын

The life hack to get more characters is to include ZSS in Samus like Brawl did, same for merged Sheik and Zelda, and you have a tier to notate that, then you can fit more actual characters.

@striker3190 2 жыл бұрын

marss alt account detected

@craigmoon2121 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@draconocor1309 2 жыл бұрын

Put every single Fire Emblem character on the same character. Starting with Marth, press Down-B and rotate the stick to one of the 9 directions to switch to a different character.

@craigmoon2121 2 жыл бұрын

@@draconocor1309 Character select screen becomes a franchise select screen and then you do this with every character. Big brain strategy

@T.Gundham 2 жыл бұрын

@@craigmoon2121 Franchise select screen becomes a game select screen. Simply scroll until you get your wanted franchise and bam. Now we complete with your suggestion.

@aechman67 2 жыл бұрын

Smash blessed us with like 80 fighters and smash fans are obsessed with discussions about who should go

@nikzito2 2 жыл бұрын

shut ur mouth!!!! lmao

@smashssf2_ssbc15 2 жыл бұрын

Ironic isn't it?

@ShallBePurified 2 жыл бұрын

When you run out of characters to add into Smash, the next step is talking about who to boot.

@terencem.4459 2 жыл бұрын

Nintendo originally stated that making another smash game would be impossible but later redacted their statement. Almost feels like panda is trying to tell Nintendo that it’s okay if the game is smaller there’s still a big community excited about the game.

@Skelliiie 2 жыл бұрын

yes, because the next smash game (if there's gonna be one) is not gonna have all the characters

@startic7516 2 жыл бұрын

People forget that Pit is Sakurais baby. He is always in the middle or top of all the Smash artwork, he’s not going anywhere

@madmoxxi7397 2 жыл бұрын

I wish they took archetypes and play styles into account more

@greenchucklesjr 2 жыл бұрын

Nintendo doesn't so why should they?

@greenchucklesjr 2 жыл бұрын

I agree that it should be a factor, but they were going with likelihood, not preference

@madmoxxi7397 2 жыл бұрын

@@greenchucklesjr they do though. I’m not talking about which playstyles they prefer but different types of playstyles. It doesn’t matter how many characters there are if all of them play rush down for example Not only that but they didn’t take into account characters getting replaced for exAmple By the time the new game comes out nintendo will likely have a new mascot to replace inkling

@MB-nw8wu 2 жыл бұрын

@@madmoxxi7397 a new mascot to replace inkling ? You do realize Splatoon is like a top 5 Nintendo franchise nowadays with anew game coming out this year

@lifetake3103 2 жыл бұрын

@@madmoxxi7397 Along with me completely disagreeing with inkling dropping out ever they literally did consider characters getting replaced with pokemon

@SpencerBPD 2 жыл бұрын

You guys do realize that Greninja was voted the most popular Pokémon of all time TWICE by the fans right? There’s no way in hell Greninja is getting cut.

@RandomNirvanaSXE 2 жыл бұрын

They should echo Pokémon trainer into team rocket and have 3 other selected Pokémon

@nigele8625 2 жыл бұрын

Get em outta here

@iswiftyfox8997 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Lucario is also one of the most popular Pokémon but I think he might be too unpopular for the team to bring him back in this hypothetical 30 character roster

@michaualtington 2 жыл бұрын

@@iswiftyfox8997 in 2020 lucario and greninja were the second and first most popular pokemon respectively so not having any of them is pretty stupid

@iswiftyfox8997 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaualtington yeah but by unpopular I met he’s unpopular in smash

@wendydorsey7427 2 жыл бұрын

Keeping a blue bird who hasn’t gotten a new game in a hot minute vs the most requested fighter with the added bonus of Disney which in itself is a achievement, also a bit salty with puff since they were one of the originals

@phitran5336 2 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking the same. Some majorly disrespectful picks over Sora

@sandrocastanero3759 2 жыл бұрын

Keeping a boy with a key VS a fan fav from a first party IP

@meteornome2556 2 жыл бұрын

@@sandrocastanero3759 keeping the most wanted character for Smash over some bird that hasn't even had a game in YEARS.

@keithtestaverde3712 2 жыл бұрын

As long as we FIX GANON next game then everything will be fine. Can the man PLEASE get a real movset from his games

@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Ganon deserves his own moveset. Maybe they can add Black Shadow from F-ZERO and give him Ganon's old moveset

@Xeconis 2 жыл бұрын

For his final smash he now plagiarizes your evil plot just like in Twilight Princess when he took everything Zant had done and claimed it as his own

@MobileSuitLizzy 2 жыл бұрын

Sephiroth is super iconic he definitely deserved a spot

@ramziyanez4278 2 жыл бұрын

sephiroth over cloud 100%. super unique character design different kind of villain.

@GoldDragon20 2 жыл бұрын

For the OG 12, even if any of them dont really deserve to stay or need to be removed, they’re gonna stay. Because it’s the OG 12. Sure, Yoshi needs a rework, DK needs buffs, and Falcon needs to be in something other than smash, but otherwise pretty good list.

@thomasburns9018 2 жыл бұрын

personally would get rid of falcon for ganon as he is more iconic through gaming and ganon is pretty much a captain falcon echo

@GoldDragon20 2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasburns9018 understandable, but that would mean messing up the OG 12 like I stated above. For Ganon, reworking the Smashes was a good start, they just need to keep going. Make him even less of a Falcon clone.

@sukmykrok3388 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see Nintendo take ALL the echo fighters and either get rid of them all together or revamp them with their own move set making them NOT echoes anymore.

@parkerjowers7097 2 жыл бұрын

I still don't understand why echos aren't just different costumes. Make Dr. Mario a Mario skin, make Dark pit a pit skin, have a Medusa skin for palu, daisy skin for peach. Such an easy solution yet they've never done it

@doctorbielen 2 жыл бұрын

I kind of really like some of the echos. Like Lucina, Ken, and Chrom are cool cause they play different versus their counter parts (and I’d honestly move Dr Mario, Pichu, and one of the other links to echo at least). The other echos though…yeah they pretty much are just skins. :/

@sukmykrok3388 2 жыл бұрын

@@parkerjowers7097 even though Dr Mario has a similar move set Mario he's still WAY different from Mario. He's slower, and hits much harder for one. The Dr is not an echo.

@cyberm1037 2 жыл бұрын

The only three that are close enough to the original for this treatment are really Daisy, Dark Samus and Richter. The others play different enough

@Anomalocaris98 2 жыл бұрын

@@parkerjowers7097 Echos with actual differences should not be skins. Their movesets should just get tweaked

@ld6906 2 жыл бұрын

While the Miis may not deserve to come back, I know for sure that they will Nintendo needs to sell those costumes

@raphiemelak7811 2 жыл бұрын

Marss, ESAM, and Wadi are my favorite panda hosts for these vids

@blabla5268 2 жыл бұрын

Only improvement would be if coney was there too

@gavinmiller8980 2 жыл бұрын

Same

@raphiemelak7811 2 жыл бұрын

@@blabla5268 true

@bobbycritz 2 жыл бұрын

Man ZSS is like, one of the coolest characters. It makes sense but it hurts

@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu 2 жыл бұрын

She's only really been in zero mission and other m. But I guess there haven't been that many metroid games so that's still quite a few.

@aetherius6221 2 жыл бұрын

Flipkick is so epic guys I love unpunishable moves

@Geneolgia 2 жыл бұрын

Nah take her out and put Raven Beak or a new character fron Metroid Prime 4 if that or a new Smash ever happen.

@RaheemRollair 2 жыл бұрын

You can get rid of the third party characters that got in Ultimate by complete chance in the next game, but you CAN'T get rid of the original twelve.

@FirstLastname604 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see these three start a podcast

@jeremycarter2006 2 жыл бұрын

Retweet. Like a weekly/biweekly thing

@andymcclurg9916 2 жыл бұрын

Yes but replace Esam with Coney

@nick6019 2 жыл бұрын

Swap Sora and Greninja for Sheik and Ike and you’re perfect. Like ESAM said, he’s Sora. He’s literally the most fan requested character. Also I think Greninja’s popularity was underestimated here, he’s one of the most popular Pokémon ever.

@castform7 2 жыл бұрын

Eh, I think Sora's probably the first to go when vonsidering the next Smash. Getting him in this game was literally a lucky encounter and probably multiple hours of negotiation. Sora got in by the skin of his teeth and I think it's pretty safe to say he's probably not coming again no matter how many requests he got.

@gamerman23467 2 жыл бұрын

@@castform7 i mean he is already in the game, if anything that makes discussion easier for the next entry since the fate encounter already happened

@Valderami 2 жыл бұрын

Sora was literally the single most requested character of all time, put him in the game, he literally just got here

@researchinbreeder 2 жыл бұрын

My thought process would be to keep certain character archetypes preserved to some extent. For instance, you need either Robin or Hero for the magic swordsman and resource character, and you need Puff or Sora (or buff Kirby) to fit the super floaty role.

@GregCaldwellPlays 2 жыл бұрын

The amount of games Monolith Soft helps Nintendo with is staggering both Pyra/Mythra & Shulk stay. That studio is way too important for them not to have both characters in.

@SagaFraga 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, they basically made BOTW not to mention xeno is basically Nintendos first party version of ff at this point.

@ganondad1686 2 жыл бұрын

Tbh, if anything, if/when nintendo makes a new console, they will just add ssbu to it, but will call it ssbu deluxe and will keep all the characters including dlc, and will just add new characters. If they intend to do that then they will probably go until they can't anymore or someone at nintendo or Sakurai decides to make another one. Personally I think the keeping ssbu and just adding characters with new consoles is a pretty good idea, and it would probably save them some money as well.

@Espeon5 2 жыл бұрын

Ain’t no way nintendo boutta pay the Disney price tag for sora again

@Rspknlikeab0ssxd 2 жыл бұрын

I'd like them to do like 15 characters they'd like to see added to smash, maybe everyone could have one or two picks that nobody else has to agree on tok.

@L1N3R1D3R 2 жыл бұрын

By franchise: Mario (5): Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Yoshi Donkey Kong (2): Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong Zelda (3): Link, Zelda, Ganondorf Metroid (2): Samus, Ridley Kirby (3): Kirby, Meta Knight, King Dedede Pokemon (3): Pikachu, Pokemon Trainer, Greninja Fire Emblem (2): Marth, Byleth Other Nintendo (8): Wario, Fox, Captain Falcon, Villager, Olimar, Aegis, Inkling, Miis Third Party (8): Steve, Pac-Man, Ryu, Sonic, Snake, Cloud, Hero, Sora

@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 2 жыл бұрын

Smash considers Yoshi as a separate series

@L1N3R1D3R 2 жыл бұрын

@@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 I'm aware. I was trying to condense all the franchises with only one character into other categories. Yoshi is still closely tied with Mario despite also having a separate series, whereas Wario is separate aside from Mario spinoffs, hence my grouping of those two characters.

@smashdriven1640 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I would not mind if over half the characters get cut for the next Smash but the new ones that they do add would have to be stellar.

@parkerwicht800 2 жыл бұрын

Not Having Pit or a Xenoblade Rep is a big mistake. There's no way they would put out another smash game without representing Kid Icaruss or Xenoblade, and honestly Min Min should be in to represent Arms, which is one of there newer Ips.

@Xenowolf8 2 жыл бұрын

I think Shulk is guaranteed to stay for the same reason as Inkling. Xenoblade is a new up and coming Nintendo franchise, and Shulk is the face of the franchise. And Pyra/Mythra could easily be replaced with Elma or maybe someone from Xenoblade 3. I also think Terry stays because SNK fighting games are the reason Smash exists, and SNK was very generous with Sakurai adding a lot their characters and music, so it’s most likely licensing isn’t an issue.

@awesomeeevee133 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I think Greninja, Wario, Jigglypuff, and Robin should’ve been much more heavily considered. Greninja feels too popular to just say “nah he’s gone”, Wario very iconic, Jigglypuff has the 64 seniority, and Robin is objectively one of the most unique Fire Emblem characters in the game

@Pyco_ 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I can see them trying to keep Sora in the game but it wouldn’t be easy because Disney.

@theimpersonator7086 2 жыл бұрын

For the next Smash game, I def expect a way smaller roster with a overhauled moveset and maybe some new mechanics Mario could have Cappy, with its own mechanics, and say the Spin from Galaxy. Adult Link will be way more like a fusion of BOTW1 and 2. Samus will likely be a fusion of Dread and Prime Triology/ Prime 4 All I personally hope for is that Joker or a Persona Rep stays, along with a Xenoblade rep, and Sora

@Sponsie1000 2 жыл бұрын

Bro imagine if Mario could do a small galaxy-spin hop after using his double jump. Dont know if it should have a hitbox, but it would be a nice nod and cool unique mechanic

@theimpersonator7086 2 жыл бұрын

@@Sponsie1000 They could make a cool refrence and have Mario be able to do a homing attack groundpound like he could in the Galaxy games

@Dc-pm2hi 2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully sora leaves

@shkkrimp7344 2 жыл бұрын

@@Dc-pm2hi agreed sora needs to go

@artimist0315 2 жыл бұрын

I definitly agree with the smaller roster, the game has too many characters, but not that much less. I would prefer the power of the star over cappy and flood, I think both are a bit too complex for Mario, which should stay an easy to play jack-o'-all. I really, really disagree with the link one, I don't like what they did in ultimate, getting rid of 30 years of Zelda history just to reference one game because it's new a did well doesn't make sens, and overall I find the character less fun this way, it was my main in 4 and now he's just not fun to play. Having the hookshot and the gale/ melee bomerang as well as reverting the frame data changes would be necessary for me, as well as bringing the real design back and not the wish version we have in ultimate. BOTW link should be a skin and I've nothing against bringing back remote bomb and making the shield surfing a dash attack, since his new one is too similar to f tilt. I think the same thing would apply to samus, they could ad one or two ref from dread like the uppercut and slide, but her special represent her perfectly, exept for charged shot which is one of the most iconic smash move. I like joker and think he should stay, but in this particular set up there is no way he prioritize over any of the 36 characters, same thing for sora. I think the Xeno rep should be shulk, his game did better and the the oversexualization of pythra makes me extremely unconfortable. they also have really basic moves.

@Dddeltari 2 жыл бұрын

Dedede fightin for his life this whole damn video

@Logplank 2 жыл бұрын

Okay, as a mother/earthbound fan... ness stays not due to popularity, but being in the original 8 That means Jigglypuff is in due to this

@pkalexmariokart2091 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah.

@zacpadilla2432 2 жыл бұрын

Dang, Square lost all of its Ultimate characters 😂. I would’ve kept Hero judging of Japan’s overall reaction to the character. (I love Sora, but it would be probably hell to get him back)

@Joshua250 2 жыл бұрын

Cloud is still in there

@glitchx0861 2 жыл бұрын

i mean square is starting a new approach to video game partnerships which is what got sora into smash so i dont think it should harder than it was before

@TheDemonChara 2 жыл бұрын

@@glitchx0861 Well... Sora is Disney... Idk the specifics but we can be sure that Disney holds the cards when it comes to Sora

@zannax351 2 жыл бұрын

@@glitchx0861 the issue with getting sora in was never square enix, its Disney that technically owns the character.

@artimist0315 2 жыл бұрын

I mean it kinda make sens, sephiroth is cool but far from the main character, Sora is a disney charatcer and if we had to wait this much for him, we can live without him, and for hero, the character is not that iconic (and honestly is super ugly), Dragon Quest is super important in the gaming industry, but hero as a character ... not really. Cloud is really iconic, super cool , everyone play him, he's fun, and from the most iconic game in an iconic franchise that outshine every past and future entries.

@LucinaShepherds 2 жыл бұрын

I’m honestly glad they decided not to just cut all but 2 FE characters, I love all of their characters & I hate that it seems like soo many hate them, my favorites are Lucina, Chrom, & Corrin, Byleth is fun too, & Ike is great, & Roy just feels soo aggressive & it’s fun, I don’t really use Marth or Robin cause they’re hard to use & not that good

@anonymousnate678 2 жыл бұрын

One thing I think a lot of people forget when they talk about how Smash supposed to the big Nintendo collaboration and should have more Nintendo characters is that Bandai Namco made the game... Nintendo published and owns the IP yes, but the people actually putting the work into the game were Sakurai and the team at Bandai therefore the collaboration choices should rest more in their hands than anyone's since they're putting in the leg work.

@Bowcaster26 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't want to narrow the current roster down to 40 because I don't disagree with any that stayed but also K.Rool deserved to stay in and I'd want at least 1 Xeno rep

@artimist0315 2 жыл бұрын

well, more realistically, the roster wouldn't go under 60 character, though I think going under 70/75 is necessary for the franchise. Like some of the character they got rid of should obviously stay in a realistic setting. That was more for the challenge. I think they could have replaced steve by k rool, snake by lucario/mewtwo/meta knight and put sheik in the marss tier so we can have room for shulk.

@Sancnea 2 жыл бұрын

Marss being the voice of reason keeping Byleth in there. The man is definitely an FE fan.

@adriahrin3284 2 жыл бұрын

but would be cool to have a lot of fire emblem characters, for the simple fact that it would make smash players salty, and that's always fun

@spacialwanderer9552 2 жыл бұрын

@@adriahrin3284 you’re watching a smash video even though the game is over you’re a smash fan

@adriahrin3284 2 жыл бұрын

@@spacialwanderer9552 didn't say i wasn't

@aetherius6221 2 жыл бұрын

@@adriahrin3284 as a long time fire emblem fan, I agree, I'm mostly glad fe characters get in for the infinite salt

@dogAB 2 жыл бұрын

Marss defending the FE characters, love to see it

@SkySlug 2 жыл бұрын

Replace entire VIP section with Ice Climbers and you've got the best list

@claymore4852 2 жыл бұрын

I kind of agree with most picks, it's really hard to narrow it down so much, there are so many iconic characters. Tbh tho I'm not sure about the FE part, wouldn't cutting Roy make more sense ? He definetely plays nothing like Marth, but his moveset is visually really similar and I'm pretty sure he is a lord like Marth, while characters like Byleth and Robin would represent different stuff from the series. Also I wouldn't put Sheik over K rool or a Xenoblade character, She is cool but with such a limited roster I think Zelda, Link and Ganon perfectly sum up the series already

@silvergalaxia8538 2 жыл бұрын

I think you guys are really underestimating the popularity of Dragon Quest. Along with Final Fantasy it's basically the inspiration for all other JRPGs. Also I definitely think Roy would be cut, he wasn't in Brawl or the base game of Smash 4.

@lifetake3103 2 жыл бұрын

But literally brought to smash 4 because of popular demand

@tuckerbotts5106 2 жыл бұрын

@@lifetake3103 Roy's our boy

@silvergalaxia8538 2 жыл бұрын

@@lifetake3103 I'm pretty sure everyone would have preferred if they brought back a character like Snake or Wolf instead of Roy.

@byronlyons3548 2 жыл бұрын

@@silvergalaxia8538 If that were the case, they would have been brought back in on Smash 4 instead. But they weren't, were they?

@silvergalaxia8538 2 жыл бұрын

@@byronlyons3548 Nintendo doesn't decide what characters to add based on popular demand alone. Nobody asked for Corrin or Piranha Plant, but they added them anyway. imo the reason they added roy to smash 4 was because a lot of his animations could just be copied over from Marth.

@wildberry752 2 жыл бұрын

they said no to the first nintendo character (G&W) and yes to a character who was gone from the previous game (Snake) is this list just which characters you like and which you don't?

@ElectricRustyBanana 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like there will 100% be a Xenoblade rep next game with how much Nintendo wants to push that series now

@ShallBePurified 2 жыл бұрын

I find it funny they decided it was logical to have 4 Fire Emblem characters and no Xenoblade characters. They did it for the Smash memes.

@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 2 жыл бұрын

I'd be fine with a new Xenoblade rep as long as they don't make it a fucking annoyance like Pissra

@CorrinNohr Жыл бұрын

I knew I didn’t have much luck going into this, but I can be happy that one of the characters I use made it, which is Byleth

@spaghetnoodle7706 2 жыл бұрын

"Put Sonic up there too he's literally Sonic" 'Yeah... unfortunately" lmao

@redpandaplush5980 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it makes sense to cut out all of the Awakening characters. The game revived the Fire Emblem franchise and is probably the most popular one. Take out Byleth or Roy and put Robin in

@Athanatov 2 жыл бұрын

Three Houses is by far the best sold game.

@HoshiArt 2 жыл бұрын

yeah roy really doesnt make sense

@afoxy2028 2 жыл бұрын

@@HoshiArt to be fair he was in with Marth as the first two fire emblos

@aetherius6221 2 жыл бұрын

Man fe fans are so unbelievably sick of hearing about awakening saving the franchise when most players would rather play fe4 or 5 on original hardware, and trust me that's saying something. That game was so dogshit the highest difficulty put me to sleep

@captaindystopia 2 жыл бұрын

@@aetherius6221 lmao

@BigHuskerdustFan 2 жыл бұрын

One thing I wanted to mention is that P/M should be broken into two characters and only one gets to stay. I personally think if that happens, then Pyra would get in over Mythra.

@IceAnt573 2 жыл бұрын

I love that Marss successfully convinced ESAM and WaDi to put Byleth in VIP.

@krislillies8825 2 жыл бұрын

Personaly dissagree with banjo kazooie being immediate removed. They can easily get a re-work to have better moves+frame data. Just look how ganon and game and watch changed from their first instalments

@CurlyFries723 2 жыл бұрын

Yall really kept 4 FE’s but not 1 Xenoblade 🤨

@DaRealJake 2 жыл бұрын

Poor Puff. I really think all the original 12 will and should stay.

@nuibaba280 2 жыл бұрын

Puff has been very irrelevant to Pokemon. The fact that she got at risk of being cut shows how unlikely she is.

@DaRealJake 2 жыл бұрын

@@nuibaba280 she may not be relevant in Pokemon, but she’s a staple in smash. Kinda like falcon.

@nuibaba280 2 жыл бұрын

@@DaRealJake So was Roy but he got cut. And remember. Jiggs only made it into Brawl after it got delayed, she was cut otherwise. She's not as big of a priority as you think. Especially when many Smash staples will have bigger priority.

@very_gouda 2 жыл бұрын

It'll never happen, but my ideal sequel to Ultimate (where everyone is here) would be on a much smaller scale, and EVERYONE would be reworked. Mario's Fludd is irrelevant, he should have something pertaining to his more recent game (Cappy, maybe?), Link could be even further redesigned by implementing more of his Shiekah Slate toolkit in his his special moves, and so on and so forth. No one should play the same. It would be cool and fresh and different, and if people didn't like it, they could always play Ultimate.

@Kyro4Productions 2 жыл бұрын

Make cape down-B and then side-B can be Mario tossing Cappy out like a boomerang, but if you tap B again Cappy stops in place and you can jump on him. Or just give him Tornado back as a down-B and change the animation to a scaled-down version of the Cappy spin from Odyssey.

@very_gouda 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kyro4Productions omg, Cappy acting as a platform would be so sick. imagine the creativity one could implement in their play style.

@esrever6948 2 жыл бұрын

@@very_gouda how falcon gonna be different ? he gonna have his dumbass gun he never uses ?

@akio0191 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kyro4Productions Cape Down B and he can actually fly with it.

@very_gouda 2 жыл бұрын

@@esrever6948 shit, that thing really do stay chillin in the holster, don’t it? 😂😂

@absontchica6298 2 жыл бұрын

Seems pretty good, but I'd swap Diddy for k rool, needs more villains

@MK0DarkSpartan853 2 жыл бұрын

I'd say that I concur mostly with your selection, Roy and Yoshi were the only ones I'd take out for maybe Robin and Pit respectively. Though, I do have some ideas for a few of the 'See ya' character: Make the Echo Characters (Daisy, Lucina, Dark Samus, and maybe Ken) have the Alph treatment (make them skins), give ZSS available through the Smash Ball like in Brawl, and give Inklings some Octoling skins!

@MK0DarkSpartan853 2 жыл бұрын

@2fast 4u Same as the Jigglypuff, so...

@eyyy2271 2 жыл бұрын

Ngl, don't think Pit should come back

@nuibaba280 2 жыл бұрын

Yoshi is iconic and from the golden boy: Mario's franchise. No shot is he getting thrown out.

@VideoGamesEpic 2 жыл бұрын

Terry is 100% staying. Dude helped inspire Smash, hello?

@adambryant4149 2 жыл бұрын

You should Merge Sheik into Zelda that way you can fit more characters. I'd also drop Falco, Bayonetta, Roy, Ike, Diddy, and Olimar. With those slots dropped, you can now pick up Robin, Mewtwo, Pyra/Mythra (or Shulk,) Rosalina, K.Rool, Mii (Merge all 3 of them,) and Greninja. Robin represents the rebirth of Fire Emblem and the MC, while Byleth would be the modern Fire Emblem rep (you can't customize Byleth in the games so you'd still need something to represent them. Mewtwo is the stand-in for Pokémon's villain and represents legendaries. Pyra/Mythra or Shulk for reasons listed above Rosalina represents the modern Mario games while being fairly popular herself and having a whole set of games based around her appearance. King K .Rool because if we cut Diddy, we don't have enough DK characters and I believe having the villain instead of a side protagonist works better. The Miis are iconic for video games and will represent the Wii as a whole. Merging them will cut down slots. Greninja works as the final Pokémon slot (Pokémon deserves to have at least 4 slots.) Acts as the modern rep for Pokémon and is the #1 Pokémon voted as people's favorites.

@NrgSpoon 2 жыл бұрын

12:54 At this point, Persona is a spinoff of SMT in the way Super Mario Bros is a spinoff of Donkey Kong.

@Zeledon3 2 жыл бұрын

Olimar over Shulk is a god damn atrocity and y'all know it...

@KouteiEmperor 2 жыл бұрын

I guess I would say that Joker and Sora for them being probably alot of people's iconic trailer reveal might make their way into the game. Joker is from Persona 5 which is a spinoff of Shin Megami Tensei and i do see the point of that. But i do assume that Joker for being how iconic and how much of a giant deal is reveal would be would make it and the same goes for sora

@andrewtaylor5883 2 жыл бұрын

The new Smash Game should have the main Heroes and their Respective Villains: Mario/Luigi/Yoshi/Peach - Bowser DK/Diddy - K.Rool Samus - Ridley Link/Zelda/Sheik - Ganon Cloud - Sephiroth Fox/Falco - Wolf Kirby/MK - DDD

@jeremy.oliver 2 жыл бұрын

Byleth and many other 'almost new' characters are likely to be replaced by main characters from newer installments

@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu 2 жыл бұрын

I can see them get rid of pyra mythra and put in rex and one of them just because I think all the movesets will be mixed up and the gameplay will probably change too.

@hambughrr8186 2 жыл бұрын

That's actually a fair trade, Sakurai literally only cut Rex because of time constraints.

@ElChicoBush 2 жыл бұрын

My Fire Emblem picks would be Marth: First protagonist and perfect example of the Lord archetype Robin: Representation of the tactic side of the game, consumable weapons and usage of magic Byleth: Representation for the weapon triangle and usage of more than a sword Those three are perfect to me. Maybe Ike could pass too, but no more.

@IanZWhite00 2 жыл бұрын

Are we just gonna ignore Mars’s “Super Smash Siblings is just the Mississippi version” joke at the start?

@plantsun4442 2 жыл бұрын

Marss: Pyra Mythra cater to weirdos. The weirdo in question: Cosmos

@RibiRoo 2 жыл бұрын

AYYYY don't call out my boy Cosmos like that

@bnsz8704 2 жыл бұрын

Greninja is 100% in he was the most popular Pokémon back in like 2018 by a huge margin

@ismaelt9525 2 жыл бұрын

I can definitely see little Mac staying he's that guy he's an iconic guy that cam trow hands and along it fits with his story

@randomizedbeing9955 2 жыл бұрын

Many are talking about who should deserve to stay, but here are ones that I think should be added to the roster, least to best: Angry Birds: They would have to find a way for them to be able to to things without a slingshot, but would be awesome to see it if they managed to. Waddle Dee: Basic character but seeing what it can do it could do pretty well. Lucario (reworked): The moveset it has right now is boring, in the next games it should get moves like bone rush and close combat. Marx: Would be very interesting to see in future smash games. Decidueye (sorry if I spelt it wrong): The ranged moves it mostly has would be super cool. :) Waluigi: Not on the top of the list because, while it would be super cool to see it I feel like it should be introduced as a dlc for big reaction and so that it would be overpowered and stay that way for a long time. Absol: A very good pokemon, there are already enough but some (like Absol) are unique with moves like megahorn while also having moves like shadow ball. Scizor: My absolutely favorite pokemon and has so much potential, it has everything a smash character would ever need (being made of steel, having wings, and lots of mobility) and it looks cool. :) Anyways that is my list, plz recommend some characters for me to also give opinions on :)

@hambughrr8186 2 жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on the following: Toad (with Toadette as an alt), Dixie Kong, Impa (Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity), Ghirahim (Skyward Sword), Dr. Eggman, Zero (Mega Man X) and Alucard (Castlevania)?

@edelgarddidnothingwrong7994 2 жыл бұрын

Let’s all be honest, the solution to the fire emblem character problem is costumes. Just pull a straight bowser junior and make every “color” a different character for Marth. Then we can get Lucina, Roy, Chrom, and possibly others without taking up extra slots in the roster. They could do 2 colors per character and not add more characters, or throw in some like Alm, Sigurd, Erika, possibly Ike if he isn’t gonna be a separate character, etc. Then, maybe, just maybe, there could be some different kinds of FE characters; axes, lances, mounted (admittedly unlikely and probably hard to implement well), tomes, etc. Please?

@MoebiusX9 2 жыл бұрын

Robin should be there instead of Roy. Shulk, Wario, Pit, King K, Little Mac and Mewtwo should stay. I'd honestly swap Sheik for Mewtwo, maybe keep and ARMS rep too since it's a new IP but swap out Min Min for someone else

@ColgatetheTogekiss 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t agree with mac or pit but the other 3 yeah.

@eyyy2271 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, don't think Pit should come back

@MoebiusX9 2 жыл бұрын

@@eyyy2271 Why shouldn't Pit come back? Kid Icarus is cool and Sakurai did a lot to bring it back through Uprising at least Pit should stay

@eyyy2271 2 жыл бұрын

@@MoebiusX9 is he even relevant at this point?

@gamefreaknitro 2 жыл бұрын

@@eyyy2271 it’s not about relevance according to sakurai, it’s about them being fun to play, and mac and pit each have unique play styles for sure. Dude would put in excitebike if he could

@lukemedina19 2 жыл бұрын

Sora was the most requested character… how you not going to include him lol

@rafaelmendoza7108 2 жыл бұрын

As long as Sakurai and Bandai Namco are in part of developing Smash, Kazuya and Terry are safe from the boot by default.

@thecoomer6574 2 жыл бұрын

As a doc main i feel so offended with something I 100 agree with

@Antonio-is2cn Жыл бұрын

The only reason Doc got in Smash was because Sakurai liked the music of Dr Mario lol Dr Mario is the first puzzle genre rep in Smash so at least he has that going for!

@dannygoofers 2 жыл бұрын

I personally think greninja would stay because he is the most popular Pokémon by a large margin

@KrazyKyle-ij9vb 2 жыл бұрын

While I don't have a personal connection to the Castlevania games, I think Simon should be up there for being a Konami rep and for being part of a very influential game series. If I had to remove someone to put him in, it would probably be Falco (there is already a Star Fox rep and idk how influential that game was) or Sheik (there are already 3 reps from Zelda that are more important to the series).

@Xeconis 2 жыл бұрын

Snake is Konami, by the way.

@KrazyKyle-ij9vb 2 жыл бұрын

@@Xeconis oh. Well then let's get a SECOND one!

@im_Spade_ 2 жыл бұрын

11:26 out of context is amazing. ESAM: "Do you have arms?" WaDi: ".....No....." 😂😂🤣

@joshawatt3604 2 жыл бұрын

If i had to shrink the FE cast in 3~4 characters Stays: -Marth -Robin -Byleth -Ike (if there is room) Leaves: -Lucina/Chrom (Robin is an Awakening rep) -Roy (First appearance isn't even a FE game) -Corrin (lol)

@jairramirez1595 2 жыл бұрын

I personally think that Sephiroth, Terry, hero and kazuya should stay because they add a lot to the game and are super iconic in different parts of the world Others who should stay perhaps would be Joker, Pit, K Rool and Robin (instead of Ike) since they also bring something different to the entire cast In the same way I would like Sonic, Ganondorf, Samus and Banjo to be there but with a complete redesign of their gameplay since the current one I don't feel does justice to what the characters mean

@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 2 жыл бұрын

I'd rather replace Sephiroth with another FF character that isn't from 7. However I know next to nothing about FF so I don't know who should get in.

@irwin997 2 жыл бұрын

Smash 4 had 58 characters total so I think if they cut down the roster in the next smash game it’d be somewhere in the 50s for the base roster. 36 is way too small at this point of the series imo

@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 2 жыл бұрын

I think they should remove all the irrelevant characters like Sheik or Ice Climbers to make space for more third-party characters

@sandrocastanero3759 2 жыл бұрын

@@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 thats the worst quote I had heard

@captaindystopia 2 жыл бұрын

@@sandrocastanero3759 he is right tho. the worst characters imo are ness game and watch, duck hunt, ice climbers and pacman. they all beyond trash. worthless, infinitely worthless

@akio0191 2 жыл бұрын

@@captaindystopia By far the worst take I've ever heard.

@captaindystopia 2 жыл бұрын

@@akio0191 i am correct tho all of them ruin online gaming while also not being super infamous. they all are shit. (ness is debatable but the others shouldnt be in the game)

@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 2 жыл бұрын

Here's my list of who needs to go: Sheik: Hasn't been in a Zelda game for ages, needs to go. Ice Climbers: Too irrelevant. Dr. Mario: Just a Mario semi-clone. Falco: Too similar to Fox. Young Link: Link semi-clone. Pichu: Pikachu semi-clone. Roy: Marth semi-clone. Pokemon Trainer: Too many Pokemon. Ike: Another FE character. Lucas: Ness semi-clone (I'd rather make him an echo fighter). Zero Suit Samus: She's just Samus without armor. Lucario: Too many Pokemon. Wolf: Too similar to Fox. Toon Link: Another Link. Wii Fit Trainer: Too irrelevant to stay. Palutena: Another irrelevant character. Rosalina: Too many Mario characters. Duck Hunt: Hasn't been in a game for ages. Bowser Jr.: Another irrelevant Mario character. Corrin: Too much FE. Isabelle: Just a Villager semi-clone. Chrom: FE. Incineroar: Too much Pokemon. Piranha Plant: Just a pathetic joke character. Min Min: From an irrelevant game. Sephiroth: I'd rather replace him with another FF character from a game that isn't 7. Pyra/Mythra: Shulk is enough. Also I hate them. So with that, here's my list of who gets to stay: Mario: Mario, Luigi, Peach (with Daisy as an echo), Bowser Donkey Kong: Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, King K. Rool Zelda: Link, Zelda, Ganondorf Metroid: Samus (with Dark Samus as an echo), Ridley Kirby: Kirby, King Dedede, Meta Knight Pokemon: Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Greninja Fire Emblem: Marth (with Lucina as an echo), Robin, Byleth Other Nintendo: Yoshi, Fox, Ness, Captain Falcon, Mr. Game & Watch, Pit, R.O.B., Villager, Shulk, Inkling Third-party: Snake, Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man, Ryu (with Ken as an echo), Cloud, Bayonetta, Simon (with Richter as an echo), Joker, Hero, Banjo, Terry, Steve, Kazuya, Sora

@hakirayleigh 2 жыл бұрын

>Piranha Plant being a pathetic joke. Piranha Plant was a masterpiece cause watching Waluigi fans crying was really exquisite. Besides that, Byleth, Villager/Isabelle or Shulk/Aegis are fine.

@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 2 жыл бұрын

@@hakirayleigh Plant's addition was funny at first but then it got old

@hambughrr8186 2 жыл бұрын

@@forhisneutralspecialhewiel2295 Facts, it should've been Toad.

@flarekian2212 2 жыл бұрын

I feel they should’ve have putted Lucario in the Maybe section. Try’n to be unbiased as possible but i genuinely think they should add one more Pokémon rep, to be either Lucario or Mewtwo. I say Lucario recently he’s been a little more known than Mewtwo and He’s been on the Pokémon Anime a lot now recently. (Pokémon Journeys). The only problem is his current moveset and frame data. Sakurai would prolly have to change his moveset a bit, not like a lot of moves, but more so like 2 different Smash Attacks or something, or just fixing the hit boxes a little. It’s sounds dumb but Lucario is most likely the 2nd most “Cheese character” in smash, having joker as the first most. I really feel like Lucario is at least 10% more popular and better than Mewtwo.

@TheHorseWhoKnows 2 жыл бұрын

I think I’d drop falco and Roy. Falco only got his real big hype from melee and Roy’s game wasn’t that good snd Roy wasn’t even that good in his own game. Sora nowadays is too iconic and shulk with the resurge of xenoblade. I can’t in good faith put in aegis because their only popular because they busted af

@brizzyn 2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!! I feel like Shulk is much more iconic than aegis. Also Xenoblade 1 is the better game imo so he'd hands down be my pick.

@TheHorseWhoKnows 2 жыл бұрын

@@brizzyn I agree I just didn’t wanna say it lol

@byronlyons3548 2 жыл бұрын

At the end of the day though, I wouldn't object to Shulk. But I wouldn't have him in there, for kind of the dumbest reasons, like as was listed. It would only be because he was the first. That would be it, my only reason. Just like how FE has Marth, only because he was first, and I guess overall well liked. Unlike with Shulk on that last bit.

@doorbox788 2 жыл бұрын

also can someone explain to me why blaziken isnt in this game? he would literally be the perfect pokemon for a fighting game

@phatcat-st4gb 2 жыл бұрын

Greninja

@slam6802 2 жыл бұрын

Out of all of the FE characters to keep, honestly I’d say prob Byleth and Robin. Awakening and 3H have carried the series so hard from what it was. Personally I’d rather have Ike because PoR and RD are my 2 favorite games, but Awakening and 3H just did so much for the franchise Not to mention that Roy/Marth/Lucina/Chrom and even Ike are kinda just generic sword characters, and Corrin is from a black sheep game. Robin has a very interesting and unique kit, and so does Byleth

@BillytheEntertainer 2 жыл бұрын

i loved to see them do this concept again (36 character limit) but decide the characters based on what would make the game the most fun/balanced. Instead of only thinking about video game rep, they would instead think of playstyle

@NyctoNel 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta thank marss for defending the fire emblem cast, surprised they put roy over corrin, I get that Roy was in the first one, but corrin is much more known and probably more unique than Roy... Can't replace marth cause he's the face of fire emblem along with byleth now. And ike Is too much of badass to not force his way into the roster, i mean he legit leads an army to fight a god... (Wait a minute, isn't that just fire emblem games in general....)