and in Rugby, neither player (especially those on D) rarely builds up a full head of steam, so to speak, to collide. the action in Rugby is mostly to the sides with a short burst upwards from like a few yards. whereas in NFL, RBs can build momentum from like 7-10yds back, while receivers are usually in motion. more importantly, defenders in the NFL often have time to build up a lot of speed to collide with you.

Big difference mate in both rugby and league they don't have breaks for defences and attacking sides .They are on the for eighty minutes with a ten minute break after the first forty minutes Unlike NFL that constantly stop start and has more options for replacement players .

American football' is like everything from the US, more show than something else!

It's way more than that. The coaching staff in the NFL is constantly switching out players to adapt to certain plays on both Offense and Defense. Sometimes they bring them out for a breather for a couple of plays, but mostly it's to adapt and overcome to what the opposing team is trying to do. It's way more chess than checkers. People really underestimate the mental aspect of the NFL, and especially if you're a top-level QB or Coach, like Kyle Shanahan and Brock Purdy or John Harbaugh and Lamar Jackson. The pressure on those men is enormous.

@@Vladpryde tactic is crucial in every sport, but NFL sucks on every aspect! action, velocity and more

This is a load of bollocks. League players put a full impact tackles. They don't hold back.

​@@laurencebyron9183obviously you don't watch the Nfl. I watch both league and union and they don't compare to the reckless abandon players hit each other in the NFL

@@laurencebyron9183 agree mate. Are these tossers saying if rugby league players wore all that padding and NFL players didn’t , then rugby league is tougher. Typical Americans who think there tougher and stronger whilst wearing a heap of protective gear..

​@Laurence Byron the nfl has been trying to get its players to tackle rugby style because it's much safer for the players.

@@vivec1077yes if I wore bubble wrap during a match I’d also be a bit more reckless lol

When you said busted nose fat lip I knew straight away you talking out of your asss! 🤦‍♂️

1) you played rugby union, not rugby league. Rugby league hits are different because defence has to retreat 10m and many legal hits on RL would be illegal in RU. 2) Comparing a local RU club in the USA to the NRL would be like comparing an amateur Canadian football club to the NFL

So in Australia we play a schoolyard game called "British Bulldog"... It has been banned in many schools because thats where the boys run at eachother hard and alot of broken bones were the norm. The ones who can take it tend to play league. The rules for BB have been cleaned up to be tag now not tackle and used as a PE game. But I tell u back in the 70s when i was a kid, it was on like donkey kong at lunchtime.... australia has 1 hr for lunch in school so plenty of time to go nuts and get hurt. Great way to toughen up the future league players hehehe

⁠@@flaminjamin okay and people who play college, amateur and even high school football get injured.

No matter what league

⁠@@dutchdlite he might not know about the sport but he isn’t wrong…

@Morkz DeLorean that came off a tad deuchy, or maybe that was the intention. One would not have to know how many countries pay its players to form a rugby team, nor would one have to know the distinction between club rugby and pro rugby to know the basics of the game. Its played here in the states, its just not popular because most people here prefer football. But I've watched it here, and yes, the majority of legal football contact is not allowed in rugby.

Theres someone on my U17s Rugby team whos 6 foot 2 and 265 lbs Thats 16 year olds

@@deadlyjaguar89 that’s considered small for a linemen in america

@@dropemoff1877 Very small. Might be an okay Line Backer, but not a Defensive Lineman. And it's not just size, you also have to have speed and technique. That's why it's so impressive when you see someone like 6'4" 280lb Nick Bosa destroy a Left Tackle for a sack with the explosiveness and speed that a man his size possesses.

Rugby has more superficial injuries like busted up noses and black eyes but brother trust me American footballs hits are a whole other level of violent. Imagine a 6'3 265 lb man running full speed dozens of yards slams into you. It fucks people up and use to kill players before more rules were added

I was looking for this comment. According to the sources I can find, between 1900 and 1905 there were 45 football players that died.

@@chaost4544how many have died recently. I mean those stats are pretty old if you ask me😂

@@sampam3334they just explained why people don’t die anymore. The pads are the only thing saving these players

@@2patsfan588 oh so you DO think the pads are there to protect them? Make up your mind please

@@sampam3334 that’s exactly what it’s there for. But at the same time pads lead to wilder hits and bigger impacts. It’s really not hard to understand

Exactly. It’s not just about tackling. There is so much more to it

@@sampam3334doesn’t matter any nfl player can get on a rugby team. Not many rugby players can transfer over. Even when we are talking straight athleticism. You ever hear of dk metcalf? Go look him up and you will see rugby has no athletes like that.

hail to pitt baby!! spent a few years there

Morkz you made my point. Rugby is not a collision sport...maybe once a game you'll have someone flatten the fullback but that's the exception not the rule. Almost every play in football ends with a full on collision, Rugby is more of a grind. Intensely physical and an endurance test but a collision sport it is not.

I used hockey as an analogy because most Americans are more familiar with it than Rugby. Both sports are tough and the players are undoubtedly tough but football is the tougher game.

Also....HAIL TO PITT!

u don't know hockey if u think its not a collision sport

All that being said rugby is no joke !! More accumulative hits that hurt the bones .

But thing is, it’s not just about hits. And I don’t mind being hit super hard if I can take an hour break in between, plus the ad breaks and you keep getting water or some kind of hydration. Rugby on the other hand is getting all that work for 80 minutes plus you still have to constantly run at full speed with no protective gear, players are not getting swapped out much. All you get is a 10 minute break, broken nose, concussion, black eye, broken neck (maybe) and if your lucky no one will step on your face with their cleats. But there’s also a very high chance of ending up with cauliflower ears

@@sampam3334if you think the padding does so much watch damar Hamlins injury. Watch bijan Robinson and Kevin wares injury. Watch joe theismann’s injury. All it takes is one play, stop being ignorant.

@@2patsfan588 oh so the whole sport revolves around hits and injuries. So whoever gets injured wins 😂 I think we’re not watching the same sport bud

@@sampam3334 you wanna talk about toughness but don’t think a guy dying and being back to life on the field and playing the next year is tough?

80 mins of running and collision versus 10 mins in and out of 1 or 2 hits? Great debate I think.

Yes I would take what Joe Rogan says with a grain of salt when it comes to football. He never played it. How can you be so emphatic about rugby being tougher when you have never played that or football. He should have said rugby looked tougher to him. I've played football but never rugby. I've hardly ever watched any rugby so I really can't tell you anything about how tough that sport is compared to football. The only problem I have when people compare rugby and American football is when they bring up the wearing of pads in football and think that makes football a less brutal sport.

@Atheos B. Sapien (Ubi dubium ibi liberatas) cornerbacks and safety maybe🤷‍♂️

What’s tougher? Getting hit by someone who is fully recovered fully recovered or running for 80 minutes? 🤦‍♂️ rugby players get hit all the time, and they run non stop for 80, NFL players can’t run 80 minutes straight, but can hit and take a hit. So you tell me what’s tougher for you? Take a hit or run 80 minutes

@Atheos B. Sapien (Ubi dubium ibi liberatas) bro that’s why it’s not tougher🤦‍♂️

Rugby would have evolved to be as hard as US football if they also wore armor (helmets, pads, etc). That is the BIG difference. In rugby, you really have to be more careful bumping skulls. And the long false historical narrative that US football came from football (soccer), because of the same words, did not help either. US football by all intents & purposes really did descend from rugby. The only time you use the foot in US football is during kickoffs & field goal. The rest of the game, using your foot on the ball is a penalty. Thus, it should not have been called US FOOTball in the first place. It is irony.

Football players are faster and wearing equipment as well so if you calculate that each football hit is insanely tough to take a lot more than a rugby hit

@@robwebnoid5763 you do know that rugby is also a type of football right? Football isn’t really a sport it’s more of an umbrella term that was used to differentiate between sports that were played on horseback and sports that were played on your feet.

American foot easily. Rugby is tou but the pads add too much impact

​@@ftmws293 ... Yes it is a type of ball sport, but the term "football" has been a misleading description of US football for a long time. When we think of football today, it has always come to mean a sport that consistently & continuously means using the foot/feet in contact with a ball during most of the game. As mentioned, US football rarely uses the feet to play the ball. It also uses the hands for throwing, but yet it's not called throwball or handball. Over the years, "real" football/futbol (soccer) fans had always teased US football as not being football per se. Even in the US, the teasing was the other way around, saying that US football is the real football. The point is that the wording is not unique & does not describe the game more accurately. Sure there is running in it (feet), but many other sports with a ball also have running in it. Basketball is unique because it has the word basket in it, as established historically from its origin using actual baskets. When you have a sport with the word "ball" in it, it usually describes what you are doing with the ball. Baseball (bases), volleyball (volleying), handball (hands), etc. And of course there are ball sports with original traditional unique names in it that does not describe the sport point black with the name ... cricket, tennis, pingpong, badminton, golf, lacrosse, hockey (a ball in the form of a puck), etc. And rugby of course. With US football, with the unique oblong ball & above-ground non-net goal posts, at least these point to rugby as mostly its origin, yet the word "football" & not "rugby" was chosen. It's one reason why people around the world who have only seen global soccer become confused when they see US football, with the name "football", because they notice that the feet are not being used on the ball 99% of the time. If you could go back in time & talk to the people who were inadvertently making up the name of the sport to make it unique, I would have perhaps chosen "Runball" or "Carryball", which is a more apt description. Of course some people might laugh at those names but that's because of hindsight. In an an alternate universe where the game is actually called "Carryball", those people would then laugh if you called it US "football". And as with the point of the video, all that traditional rugby would have needed to get even hard-hitting was slowly adding on armor over the decades, much in the same way US football kept putting on better protection, since the days of leather helmets. You don't see people getting hit hard in a leisurely picnic game of US football because you don't want your family & friends getting injured. Same with flag football, because now tackling becomes a penalty due to avoiding injury & adding the flag as a form of finesse. Today & in the past few decades, long term brain trauma in US football is getting attention, including retired players who have this syndrome. That is one of the allures of US football ... hard hits. And there is a probability that less & less families are introducing their kids to the game during little league ages, although the numbers are uncertain. At the same time, there seems to be some research showing that rugby has 2-3 more head injuries & that's because armor is not traditionally used in the sport. In a way, the helmet in US football was to protect from a head hit, as it evolved from rugby, yet at the same time, adding the helmet meant being able to hit harder & harder over the decades. In rugby, you could use a helmet to avoid that 2-3x injury statistic but still play the game without evolving into harder hitting, although that could have eventually happened if helmets were introduced more into amateur/pro rugby long ago & then you just had to wait & see if it started to get harder when rules got modified, over the span of a century.

Sometimes grown men that are 325 running a 5 second 40 yard dash going full speed into people.

@@jimbojones7163 😬 yea dude. Seriously a brutal sport.

@@jimbojones7163 jordan davis is 330lbs 6’5” and runs a 4.80 secs 40 time

The way I was convinced to start playing was everyone said it doesn't really hurt the pads take most of the impact😂😂 well the Pads didn't help protect my broken and fractured fingers or my knees and feet

Y’all talking like every tackle in the nfl are big hits, they are all highlights 90 percent of the time it’s a normal tackle, Rugby? They run 80 minutes straight, same team defends and attack, and there’s big hits highlighted in there, Ask someone what they think is tough? Get hit being fatigued and running 80 minutes or get hit maybe once but you get enough sleep time on tge bench

Watched a game. There’s the issue. You need to watch many games to appreciate it mate. It’s an incredible sport with high intensity

@counselthyself I haven’t you’re right. I have way too much sport in my life at moment to try and keep a family together 😂😂

@counselthyself I’ll give it a watch. Is it in season now?

😂😂😂😂okay.🥱

Absolutely, I noticed that right away

the creator definitely favors rugby. all the clips were people talking down on the nfl.

Lie!

Hahahaha! I stopped watching when I heard the accents and just started reading comments 😂

Because they’re wearing shoulder pads and helmets

@@sampam3334trust. That shit truly does not help lol. Gives a sense of security to try to hit someone harder.

@@sampam3334 no it’s because of the directions they’re running. Often times in opposite directions towards each other with running starts. This is created by the forward pass. Rugby doesn’t have that.

@@billbrasky1288 rugby doesn’t have that, because they don’t wear so much padding and motorcycle helmets lol

@@sampam3334 no it’s because rugby players are mostly around the line. NFL players are coming at each other from opposite ends of the field at full speed.

But the tackling is usually soft so that everyone can get back up quickly.

@@areguapiri Just like NFL. 99% of tackles are soft.

@@laurencebyron9183 no they’re not

@@laurencebyron9183 lol

Cte is completely fake science.

You know nothing. NRL players would run full steam at anyone and they would tackle anyone too.... something those bitches in the NFL don't do. No running off to sit on the sideline while a defensive team makes all the tackles, or vice versa. No stopping the game after each tackle to fix hair and makeup. Also, you need fitness to play in the NRL, no NFL player could finish a half of an NRL game, they don't have the stamina to play non stop on both sides of the ball.

That's why rugby players try to make it in the NFL and fail?

@@mikeyerian2562 They get bored.

@@spiderrabbit1556 that's it, sure

@@mikeyerian2562 that response took about half the length of an actual game of NFL.

@@spiderrabbit1556 brilliant. anyway, rugby players fail in the NFL. Always.

And how many plays and schemes is the average League player expected to memorize to a T?

Ronnie Lott did not return after his finger was amputated , he left a game with a broken finger, had it amputated after , missed 1 game but played following game ! Lets not tell stories !

@@chiefkelce5017 Dude was still a beast. Love me some Ronnie Lott, his highlights are amazing.

@@Vladpryde He was a best but to say " He had part of his finger amputated DURING a game and returned " is a little bit of a story

@@chiefkelce5017 You're right, I'm not denying that. I'm just saying: he was a beast and his highlights are awesome. But you're right: he didn't have it amputated in the locker room lol. That's myth and legend.

Smear the Q….

@@djm3suxx That was the game every day of 5th grade recess tbh.

Jus search up which sport has a higher injury rate

You go know there are two different codes of Rugby don't you?

Rugby League dude. Different game. Similar but different.

@@billymack333 Interesting fact that Sam Burgess while playing Rugby League for South Sydney in Sydney had a stint playing Rugby Union in England said that he doubted the Union players had the fitness levels to play League. And i guess that would be true of NFL players that have different teams on the field at different at times in a game. He thinks of the 3 football codes we are talking about here that League players would be the fittest.

Comparing your college Rugby experience to the juggernaut that is college Football in the US is a bad comparison. No offense but your college Rugby team is probably made up of a few passionate individuals mixed with the rejects from the American football team. They would struggle against low tier amateur Rugby teams in Rugby playing nations.

What code of Rugby are we talking about here Anton, and in 'Football' there is very little doubt that either AFL [Australian Football League or Simply Aussie Rules] or Rugby League have the highest fitness levels. And NRL is largely ignored because of the stop and start nature of the game and most times it is played by 2 very seperate teams.

I love Clarkson, but I doubt he even knows what a Quarterback does.