You guys voted on today's video... Here is it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLp3qrmHxpqmYok.html Did Palpatine build the Empire to stop the Yuuzhan Vong?

FINALLY someone's talking about the practical side of Star Wars, instead of just going on about Rey's parents

CIS navy has the most kickass designed ships. They look freakin’ awesome and fit together so perfectly.

I disagree with everything you’ve said but I can’t fault your logic. Damn my irrational allegiance to the Empire!

Vulture Droids are the best! Cheap so when even the best pilots can take out a few at a time a 1v5 with the droids working together should be able to take them down... Unless you have plot armour.

Damn it’s a good day to be a Sepratist

I guess the Empire, but the Republic does have a special place in my heart. Got to love those Venators :)

Good choice. Most people don’t think of the CIS’s power often so this is a good way to get them thinking.

I have no doubt that the CIS would have won the clone wars had Palpatine been eliminated or if order 66 had failed. Their navy, generals and tactics were superior to the republic in many ways and the fact that they were far smaller in size compared to the republic speaks volumes for how long they managed to survive the war.

One thing I really liked about Legends canon is that the issues you mentioned with the Rebel Alliance Navy end up being solved by the New Republic, who both continued to support the build strategies they already favored, extremely dangerous Star fighters and efficient small frigates and gunships, while developing both dedicated heavy carriers like the Endurance class and BAC, and powerful battle line ships like the Nebula class and the MC90 and up Mon Cal designs. Essentially they became the most well balanced fleet in the galaxy, but it took them a long time to get there.

I gotta go with the C.I.S because they are my fav faction and for other reasons like EMP does less damage to most ships, and the fact they lost almost no life and no time while fighting.

What do you guys think, same thing but for ground forces tomorrow? Like this comment and the video if you want that!

For which is best in use I think the CIS has the best since they are great against other capital ships and star fighters. But in capital vs capital empire wins for sure

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I brought the vote back! Make sure to vote and like the video if you want the feature :). Also let's get some good suggestions in the comments today!

for the separatist alliance!

The Imperial Navy is obviously the most powerful and best designed of these factions. It’s merely a matter of who’s commanding those ships. When you have fools like Piett commanding the imperial fleet it allowed the rebels to exploit its few weaknesses.

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Could you do a fleet overview of the Sith Empire?

Go Seperatists!!! They're my favorite army, in the star wars universe.

Could you do this same video, but regarding ground armies?

"If I'd been in charge, I'd have introduced an upscaled Venator, replacing the ventral hangar with additional turbo lasers." You literally just described the Imperial-class, which they presumably developed to fill precisely the capability gap you were just discussing.

Legends provides more information on the imperial navy. They had many of the same light and medium type ships mixed in their fleets. But yes star destroyers were the primary ship type. Empire was designed for system denial and blockade

I personally would put the Republic ahead of the Rebels- while not shown/mentioned here (and one of these ships may now potentially be Legends-only), the Republic had Arquitens-class light cruisers and Victory I-class SDs (albeit, in somewhat limited numbers) as well, giving them a more powerful escort and a proper frontline combatant respectively. These two ships each fill a particularly gaping niche, though they alone wouldn't be enough to elevate the Republic ahead of the CIS (after all, the Arquitens probably isn't anything like as powerful as a Munificent, and the Victory I's a lot slower than it's peers.) Can't say I disagree with the idea of a Venator without that oversized central hangar, though. They could have cut it in half to keep a respectable strike load, and still made room for more/bigger guns (I mean seriously, only two barrels on the turbolaser mounts? There's enough quad-barrel turbolasers out there!)

Should make a video for legends navys Sith empire,old republic and maybe even madalorian navy

Totally correct. Long live the Confederacy of Independent System ! Roger Roger ! Core ships for the fire power and the ability to invade entire systems and a buttload of small capable fighters for space superiority.

When more information from the sequel trilogy comes out i hope there will be a part 2 to this video.

The empire doesn’t use a good doctrine, with its massive ISDs without point-defense and swarms of crappy fighters. The republic had a pretty good doctrine with its capital ship, the venator, was a all round ship. It was able to tear through CIS ships. It wasn’t meant for that, but it got the job done. Plus, all the fighters that it carries makes it more powerful. However i do think the republic should have dedicated capital and carrier ships. For example, as mentioned in the video, the venetors hangar bay could have been replaced with more turbolasers. Although the republic is my favorite faction of the four, I do think that CIS did have a well-rounded fleet and probably could have bested the rest of the factions, if there tech level was the same. The providence class was extremely powerful, which could be protected with somewhat powerful munificent class frigates. I say the seps win this, but I feel that the alliance doesn’t belong above the republic. The republic had high quality star fighters and its ships, through usually venators, do provide a lot of firepower along with its fighters. The venators were very durable as well, only being taken out by more numerous CIS ships.

Rebels:we got some fighters,freighter,and some stolen ships, oh yeah there’s also our OP plot armor Empire:we thought big ships would be good but we didn’t get enough lancers Droids:you want op fighters that if modified would be absolutely great? Well here we are boi Galactic republic: B I G B O I C A R R I E R

Eckhart, your channel is my favourite on KZfaq. I feel like we are very similar Star Wars fans and I enjoy every single one of your videos. Keep up the great work my friend.

CIS best faction The covenant couldnt beat the cis let alone the empire

If you account for imperial ships that are mentioned in books but not the movies, than the empire has a far better navy. It has ships like the lancer and Carrack, or like in EAW, the tartan. At the end of the day, the important thing is the commander and how they use the ships. If you only see Thrawn in charge, you’d think the design is amazing, but if you only saw Piett, than you’d think of it as horrible

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Great video I love the CIS. And in my opinion it also had awesome leadership count dooku, general Grievous, and Admiral trench.

Right on dude. I like these type videos a lot.

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Warlord Zsinj (SW Legends) vs Thrawn. Zsinj is the only non force-wielding Imperial that might not be utterly curb stomped by the Grand Admiral.

One of the best videos you ever made.

I really enjoyed this one, keep up the good work!

Where do you think the First Order and the Resistance would rank?

The vulture droids have the advantage because they are computers so they are PRECISE, but the clones and Jedi had the advantage because the vulture droids probably used the same tactics and could not come up with creative ways to destroy their enemy so they were PREDICTABLE

Hey.great work as always

I feel like the Empire fleet was designed to hard-counter a fleet like the Confederacy. Star Destroyers can tear apart the large capital ships of the Confederacy while their shields/armor and TIEs can hold off the droid fighters long enough for the control ships to be destroyed. This doctrine is obviously countered by the Rebel fleet, which was obviously designed to counter the Empire. More interesting though, is that I think the Rebels would have difficulty fighting a Confederacy-like fleet that uses a variety of heavily armed capital ships and swarms of fighters. The combination of huge numbers of fighters and defensive laser fire from the Confederate ships might overwhelm the Rebellion fighters, leaving their light capital ships vulnerable to the heavily armed and Confederate frigates and cruisers. The Rebels would certainly inflict casualties, but they would probably take just as many in return.

I would say the empire. It's specifically designed for ship to ship combat. While its anti-fighter defenses aren't all that great the number of fighters they have with them makes up for that. Although what really decides the battle is the commander. Do you have a fool, someone who's competent, or an expert? The imperial navy at endor was superior to its rebel opponents but with the emperors handicaps (and plot armor) the rebels under ackbar won the battle.

Long Live the Confederacy.

Very accurate as usual, however I would take numbers into account too. Great video still!

That TIE anime is awesome. The whole video is.

I honestly just love all the four main factions, they exceed on their own aspects but they're not always perfect

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Great video and I agree on all points.

I appreciate you not going with size and just defaulting on the Empire!

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The fact that the Rebels refitted civilian ships had more than 4x the firepower of a Venator really shows just how underarmed that ship was. I don't know who designed a main line crusier with just *8* heavy turbolasers,but they need to be fired. The Lucrehulks had 48 QUAD heavy turbolasers, for example. The Providence had 14 of those as well

I agree on you with the venator the ships roof door left it expose. And I agree with you strongly on adding more guns, and the hangers would be the sides of the cruiser that way it can left it less exposed.

I would be curious to see your thoughts on some of the legends fleets like the Vong or Fel Empire. As the last Jedi comes out and we learn more about the first order I would love to see how they stack up against the other factions. Part of me also wants to see what a guy like Trawn could do with a CIS fleet.

I think people underestimate just how massive a weakness the bridge of a star destroyer is.

The rebel fleet is my favorite, the miss match of unique ships and how it was actuality effective is something i love. I might be biased tho concerning the rebellion is my favorite faction.

Would love to see you do a video talking about the sith Empire fleet from either Star Wars old republic. Perhaps even manderlorians, old republic, and I think something called enteral empire? Always love how the weapons, ships, and technology looked in the games and ever here the talked about too much.

I would think Venators would be cost effective, as they are a carrier and battleship in one. Why spend more money and resources building separate capital, carrier, and battleships when you can build a ship that can fit all of those roles? The CIS had the resources to pump out ships, starfighters and droids at a high rate, they basically had the backing of all the major corporations and banks after all.

I always been a fan of the CIS but I think they need more Organics to supplement the limitations of droid intelligence, people say their droids are crap but that can be explained Away by then manipulation of the Sith Lord known as Palpatine, I also think some of the designs of their droid need to be rethink or replaces by a better design.

I Always Admired The CIS Navy. Very Unique & Very Cool🔥👍

The Alliance and the CIS. But those Venators for the Republic are really cool.

I'd go with the Rebel Alliance with there vastly superior star fighters and those Amazing Mon Calamari cruisers

I would go with the imperal in navy power and numbers.

You should do a part two where you take typical/evenly matched fleets from each of these factions and match them up against each other in a hypothetical battle.

The Imperial Fleet dur, Imperial SDs and SSDs will always have me enticed with them.

what about chiss?

The CIS is the best in my opinion because they had the Melevalence

You nailed it, as the New Republic developed though I think they had a strong chance of taking #1

Though I am an Imperial Navy guy, I see your point. And great video as I see it.

Can everyone Please watch the tie fighter short from the begging it is one of the best Star Wars shorts ever. I have loved it for as long as I can remember.

i would guess the republic and the empire

Here is an idea, what about a video on how you would design a space navy fleet? That would be cool :D

Love the topic

Good analysis. I disagree with your conclusion though, and instead I'd rank it as follows: 1. CIS-it has a good mix of ships to fill every role, as well as being specifically-designed to maximize the advantages of using droids as starfighter pilots/soldiers/crew in an attempt to mitigate the inherent disadvantages to that strategy.The simple decision to rely on droids to mitigate the costs of swarm tactics would be enough to push it past the Empire. 2. Galactic Empire-While you look to the biggest and flashiest examples of the Imperial Navy as evidence of poor design, you fail to take into account the wide variety of other ships filling a variety of roles such as the purpose-built Lancer-class, the well-rounded Carrack-class, the versatile Strike-class, the aging Victory-class Star Destroyers, or their game-changing interdictor cruisers which totally negate the advantages of the Rebel Alliance. In Episodes V and VI we are treated to large fleets and massive space battles, but in reality rather than the Imperial-class being the only ship that was used, it was the building block around which fleets were assembled, since a single Imperial-class was intended to have enough firepower, troops, and starfighters to overwhelm the defenses of any planet or enemy vessel it should encounter. Once paired with support ships such as those mentioned above or others, its weaknesses caused by being a jack-of-all trades could be easily mitigated. (Paired with a Lancer, an interdictor, and a handful of support craft like Carracks or Strikes, a single Star Destroyer could prevent the vital second half of Rebel hit-and-run tactics, and use its superior firepower to overwhelm a raiding party while also being adequately defended against starfighters.) The problem was rather one of leadership, where commanders failed to make use of all the resources available to them. (Such as Tarkin refusing to deploy fighters at the Battle of Yavin.) 3. Rebel Alliance-It's worth mentioning here that (aside from the Mon Calamari ships), the vast majority of the Rebel fleet was either ships that were woefully outdated, were adapted from civilian use (which even includes the Mon Calamari ships), or were captured from the Empire. Basically every class of ship that they had was either still in use by the Imperial Navy, had been retired from the Imperial Navy in favor of a newer alternative, or was not actually a military-grade vessel. (The Mon Calamari ships stand out as the exception, but most repurposed civilian vessels were trash with little to no value against their opponents.) Since the extremely-capable Mon Calamari ships were much rarer, that resulted in the average Rebel fleet composition being largely composed of corvettes, frigates, and maybe a light cruiser, which would be completely outclassed if confronted with the average Imperial fleet. 4. Old Republic-A lot of the Empire's naval doctrine was inherited from the Republic along with the Republic fleet, and the changes that were made to turn the Republic Navy into the Imperial Navy were done in order to address the former's weaknesses, namely the lack of adequate frontline capital ships. Much of the reason the Republic fleet ranks at the bottom of the list is because the Venator-class was simply a poor choice for a frontline ship. They had begun to rectify that with the introduction of the Victory-class by the end of the Clone Wars, but that transformation wasn't completed until well after the Republic had become the Empire.

At 4:51 does anyone know the name of that cutscene or whatever it is?

I find it very sensible and interesting that in the Clone Wars the Republic's fleet was (rather stuck most of the way) with a particular type of warship that focused more on hanger capacity but weren't very dominant capital ships, and transitioning into the Empire they inverted. The Empire continued the doctrine of having a singular ship type as they had the production capacity necessary (and needed it to subjugate hundreds of planets), but beefed up their ships for capital ship engagements while bringing down point defense and hangar capacity. From a lore perspective, this is extremely realistic and happens a lot historically.

Note: During the Clone Wars the Lucrehulk was actually upgraded further with crazy amounts of quadlasers and especially point-defense cannons.

FOR THE REPUBLIC!!!!

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It's worth noting that the CIS occasionally employed kamakazie strikes with their (completely disposable) starfighters.The mechanized nature of the CIS fleet also allowed them to easily replace starships and fighters, as no actual pilots were lost.

Another excellent analysis, I agree with your ranking of the navies. The CIS did have the most balanced force and I like the use of droid starfighters. Keep up the great work!

What about the resistance navy and first order navy?

Despite all the comments, the Empire has the weakest navy for a war by far. Lucas designed the fighting in star wars to be based off of WWII style air and sea combat. Which means carriers reign supreme while battleships are much weaker in terms of roles.

I read your post, and I understand you’re pretty busy, but could you do a video? (1 TIE Defender vs 30 TIE fighters)

venator mk2 was everything you described that the republic needed

"Isd has over expsed bridge" Every ship has over bridge it doesent matter where you put it its still a target

The rebellion or Republic would be my number ones. The Rebellions cost effectiveness made the imperial Navy defunct, and the Republic had more naval units then the venatie. Frigates, gunboats, cruisers. Etc.

Exasperated means frustrated, exacerbated means worsened. Thanks for the videos.

Here's a couple of Verses suggestions for you to do. *1. Imperial II-class Star Destroyer (Star Wars) vs Lucrehulk-class Droid Control Ship (Star Wars)* *2. D'deridex class Romulan Warbird (Star Trek) vs Imperial II-class Star Destroyer (Star Wars)*

Rebels is probs the weakest no offence orig trilogy lovers

This video is pure rebel propaganda

Nice rating, agree with number 1

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The thing about the Venator is that it is an escort for another Venator. So long as you have a competent commander, a flotilla of Venators is a proper blockade/blockade runner in and of itself.

Great! I know there's a TO&E for the Empire, but is there one for the CIS and GAR?

Good idea, and in terms of design and quality, I'd agree. Obviously, the scale is quite different in result.

In the old Legends Wedge always said the Empire had a bad case of Trench Run Disease, meaning their capital ships had very little in the way of point defense systems, and the Rebellion always exploited that. That's why the Empire made specialty ships like the Lancer to counter fighter attacks, as well as interdictor ships to keep them from escaping, but they never produced very many of them before the Emperor died.