Me and my buddies call that a “brovisional”… when you hit a good shot and can’t seem to find your ball so you drop without penalty

Generally agree, but you have to be realistic. I've played with guys who used the "lost under the leaves" concept to turn a 215 yard drive into a 270 yard drive. If you're playing on your own I guess you just need to hold yourself to account, obviously if playing in a group you can ask them about where you think a fair spot to drop would be.

Completely agree, if you’re turning 215 yard drives into 270 yard drives your score is meaningless imo.

@@MonsterERB that’s a very valid point. A buddy of mine was a real distance exaggerator. Don’t get me wrong, he could hit the ball a long way, but I remember he swore his ball carried this ravine that was like a 340 yard carry, I was like “my brother, you’re smoking crack”

I use to play in a club that had a seasonal leaf rule. It lead to people playing high risk shots blind, that they'd not normally try, knowing they could claim leaf rule for a lost ball. Playing sensible for position was then penalised.

I find it easy to avoid the fairway divots by simply avoiding the fairway altogether

And if they got a lucky good lie in the rough did they have to roll it into a bad lie?

​@@theythinkimmadyouknow And your the reason golf is boring

@@Bomion why, because I dont cheat? Dont submit fake scores and play the game as its intended and just have fun with it rather than whine that my balls in a bit of a scrape in the ground? Yeah, I'm the dull one alright🤣🤣

@@theythinkimmadyouknow They're middle schoolers. You're a grown ass adult. Calm down.

@@theythinkimmadyouknow explain to me why you’re allowed to fix a divot in your way on the green before you putt. That’s allowed right? Shouldn’t you just play it as it lies?

When you receive a penalty.. it is 2 clubs..whether it is a 1 or 2 stroke penalty. .... and if the relief is free it is one club length. Also..usually a 1 stoke penalty is given for things that occur as a result of playing a shot. 2 stroke penalties are usually when you do something naughty, or stupid, that you should not have done.

That’s obviously the only way to uphold a fair handicap system for players that compete, regardless of level of competition, and most golf players play in competitions at least once or twice per season. Those who never compete can of course do what they want, but is it really funny to have a lower handicap than you are able to play within the rules?

@@andersedstrom1139 why would you even try to have a handicap if you don’t compete? And what does this have to do with tons of ridiculous rules?

Drop height should have been changed to from above the knee and below the waist.

Concept: Masters- Lean traditional w/ electronic ban, more value in experienced, possibly give the caddie market a boost; Augusta already doesnt allow private recordings of the course, easy to adjust, plenty of history in the course to show how it evolved with the game and its practitioners The Open- 100% traditional; speaks for itself being in the homeland of golf US Open- 100% modern; plethora of courses of age, difficulty and infamy to test practitioners and push design and creativity to the edge( think like a profession greenkeepers revenge in a way); prime environment for brands and new ideas to promote product Pga Champ- lean modern with equipment band; skills test of talent on the most difficult courses; would either establish common lofts or establish a range of lofts in categories such as “modern” “”semi-modern” or “traditional” and the yardage each club “should” get with x club head speed in no wind, mild wind, etc. Prime environment for the community to really see the difference between the average golfer and the pros and the bridge that can be built with the industry.

@@cancersilver9546 yep, that's the general idea.

Have a tour event where every person has to hand in a shopping list: 12 balls, no more than 3 dollars MSRP each 1 putter, no more than 200 dollars MSRP 3 wedges, combined no more than 250 MSRP 1 set of irons P-5 MSRP no more than 500. 3 choices of Hybrid, Utility or lower woods no more than 150 each. 1 3wood and 1 driver, combined value no more than 400 dollars. The organizer then purchases all your stuff, marks it and you get the bag the day of the practice round Thats a 14 club bag for 1500 dollars with "cheap" balls. it will force every brand to have proper handicap 20 level equipment that is good bang for buck so amateurs can play without 600 dollar drivers. or just do events that only allow blades (so no woods/drivers) and the following event that only allows mallets (so no irons, only hybrids)

I would agree with the suggestion of Guy, you take it as if you are playing whatever stroke is after the lost ball off the tee is or you take an additional stroke and play a drop from roughly where the ball was lost

Losing a $4 golf ball is penalty enough

​​@@atthebrink74 ... what abnout a 0.50 golf ball?😂

I hate playing courses with rough and leaves everywhere and you cannot find your ball even though you know 100% it didn’t go out of bounds, but it just is under a leaf

@@gerhardprasent3358 in this economy every dime matters

Not practical for the walkers (if you’re not walking you shouldn’t be playing) to be carrying sand. Curiously it’s the golfers in carts who NEVER sand or replace their divots.

@@alliejr Thats a weak excuse. I’ve got walkers on my squad. They carry sand AND… wait for it… sand their divots.

@@alliejrso many players can’t walk 6-8 miles but can definitely play with a cart. That’s a crazy take 🤪

I don't think I've played a local course in the last 10+ years that has even had sand available to the players. Fixing a divot as was taught to me, was replacing the patch of grass back on the mark. Sand was something you only saw on TV.

@@yetisdeuce1315 I’ve only played short courses, full munis, public courses, & country clubs in California, Texas, Kyushu, and the Kanto areas. From 1988 I’ve seen sand not be provided ONE time (in Texas). I’ve paid green fees from $400 to $24, I’ve never seen ZERO sand provided. You should play better courses. Dont trust ME. I’m another internet rando. Go look it up. Players are EXPECTED to sand their own divots and 1 extra. Not doing that is like spitting lougies indoors and complaining about how nasty it is.

All over the world in the winter it's lift clean and place rules. Make it standard all the time. Doesn't affect pace at all. #1 cause of pace of play issues is golf courses running 8 minute tee times.

@@ProffessorJoe BINGO.

Agreed!

First rule of golf: play to pace. Second rule: play the ball as it lies. What you’re describing is not golf.

@@alliejrit’s fine in the winter though yeah? Just not the summer…… because that’s ‘crazy’. Why not just ‘play the ball as it lies’ when on a man-made path, or a sprinkler head, or in an animal scraping? The rules of golf has been changed numerous times since the inception of the governing bodies and 2019 was a significant year of change, making golf simpler and fairer. (Grounding the club while in a hazard being just one example) This is merely another change which makes total sense…… having to play out of someone else’s divot when on the FAIRway is nonsensical….. essentially ground under repair. How anyone can think otherwise I find astounding.

As someone who charges his electric cars at their home that's powered by their 38 solar panels, I must ask how you turn in your credentials to get "main hippie" standing. And yeah, he brought up the weed too early too; Rick could have been a cop, for all he knew.

@KeithMoon13 just the fact that he called it weed is telling. He doesn't even use the peace pipe with a beeswax hemp wic is infuriating. What about the planet??? Mother Earth's good green seed is NOT called weed. That's like something they'd say in impoverished urban areas. Guy gave himself away here big time.

Are you actually confused or trolling? If you hit a ball from the fairway, out of bounds, then the stroke comes from dropping a ball. Same goes for the tee. This isn’t Golf Clash 😂😂

@@jbeezy126 : I'm neither confused not trolling. But I do think you're simple. Stating the bleeding obvious like "the stroke comes from dropping the ball" & thinking it's some sort of slam dunk point shows how slow you are. You're also talking about off the FW which is NOT what my OP was about.

@@frog2210 I believe I just explained it to you, and now you understand. That’s why you’re mad. Read your OP. You’re not simple. You need help.

@@frog2210 it was a slam dunk. You simply don’t understand what O/B means in golf, yet you used it in a sentence. You’re dense.

There is no "extra shot". It is one for the first shot (that gets lost), one for the drop (to put a new ball into play - same as for _any_ drop) and one for the shot with the new ball. So which of those is the "extra shot"?

Agreed. The challenge is to get YOUR/MY COURSE to adopt it 🙄