Which To Choose? | Coachmen Galleria 24Q v Winnebago Era 70x

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Which To Choose? | Coachmen Galleria 24Q v Winnebago Era 70x | Affordable Touring Coaches

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Neil Balthaser

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@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

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@jaykaydee5772 5 жыл бұрын

Neal touches on the subtle details that make a difference to many people. Very excellent comparison between these two products!! Who doesn’t appreciate quality?

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

many thanks Jay! i try to create videos that are differentiated and valuable.

@1klouisek 3 жыл бұрын

One year later. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. We bought the Galleria 24Q 4x4 with upgraded solar. Still loving this unit. We have made made more upgrades and find our "B" reliable, comfortable and highly adaptable. Thank You!

@thomasdarby6084 5 жыл бұрын

A "touring" RV is useless to me, as a solo, senior-citizen traveler, but I can see the appeal. I'd much rather see you do an in-depth of the Coachmen Galleria 24A. I can't even find one on a dealer lot!

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

noted!

@BulldogBill 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultramobility I also would very much appreciate a review of the Galleria 24A as it looks like it will be the Coach I will buy in the Fall of 2020 BUT a review by your good self will go a long way to ensure I will be making the right choice.

@fuzzyip 4 жыл бұрын

Same, 24a review vs era would be amazing

@fredricunderhill204 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for finally considering the insulation package!! People buying these units are not just buying for the occasional weekend or week and parking meter duty but for full time.

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

i should point out that no class b is true 4 season not even the galleria. it is better equipped than most for lower temperatures but because the discharge lines and tanks are outside they will freeze in low enough temperatures or when driving down the road in very low temperatures. those components would need to be up in a heated and insulated basement like you'd find on a class A in order to be considered truly 4 season.

@fredricunderhill204 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultramobility Very true as temperatures below 5F (-20C) are going to cause problems. Sometimes retreat is a viable tactic. :)

@BulldogBill 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultramobility Neil I believe The Galleria 24A is a true 4 Season coach as the Water Tank is inside the coach along with the water lines plus the Li battery system and The Truma Heating system. The Grey and Black tanks are in different places with most of the black tank being inside the Coach under the Toilet and all tanks are heated. Oh and the Black Tank is 19 gallons!

@ManuelHernandez-bg8bl 5 жыл бұрын

I love these touring coaches! Kinda a limousine camper hybrid. As you know I have the Midwest Automotive Designs Weekender MD4 Lounge and use the extra seats all the time. I take my parents, children and grandchildren on mini vacations all the time. I also use it to carry business associates. If you are ever sleeping in one in a hot area you will appreciate an air conditioner that's quiet and runs off batteries like the Coachman Galleria. They really should make the back bench seat a lot more comfortable for sleeping, you will need to carry a mattress topper and you will loose a lot of carger space. You can leave the bed topper draped over the back bench but seem like Pleasure Way is the big winner on rear bed comfort. I prefer the sink stove on the passenger side which both of these don't. I vote for Coachman Galleria in this review. Great Review!

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

manuel - thank you so much for sharing your ownership experience with your touring coach! I know i found it helpful!

@paula.jackson5463 5 жыл бұрын

Well Done Neil, it is really good to see the options and to hear of the Fit and Finish on the Galleria. As always very good review!

@deebauguess4054 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for such details, this may be a repeat for some but I'm sure I'm not the only one that appreciates your honesty and inside information. I'm looking forward to hearing about outside storage and load capacity , people and "stuff" can add up quickly. I'm new to the search for knowledge before buying so even the smallest details counts. Storing hose and sewage hoses. Place for chairs and just basic needs. Also reliable awnings. I understand the inside steps verses the electric which could get hit is better. And a roof you can walk on for maintenance.

@doddt2002 5 жыл бұрын

Rapido Group who is owner of Westfalia has bought Roadtrek and Erwin Hymer Group of North America. Can’t wait to see what Class B’s they will be offering later! 😊

@MrNigelpickin 5 жыл бұрын

Good comparison and having just viewed a bunch of Era and Galleria vans its easy to see where the quality is. The Era is a lot of van for < 100k but the Coachmen seems to be far more robust - imho. We’re just about to drop some money on a Galleria 24 fl and want to thank you for your reviews which have helped us make this decision, (I’ve signed up as a Patreon by way of thanks and support). Keep up the good work and look forward to an in depth on the new Mercedes sprinter features when you are able?? Nigel & Ann

@smokematthews4251 4 жыл бұрын

Question, wanting a starter class B stepping down from a 40' class. Which bath would you recommend--wife not too excited about Wet Bath? Learned lot's from your videos. Smoke

@thebillbaker4793 5 жыл бұрын

Well my friend, I was on the fence until you started talking about quality. When you brought up the word Amish builders doing the cabinetry it was all over. I jump right on top the galleria with both hands on my hips. Once again a very good job. Stay thirsty my friend

@jackyou7598 5 жыл бұрын

Great review! Very detailed. Question: if a van is equipped with an upgraded lithium batteries and solar package, does that eliminate the need for propane. To be more specific, I'm looking to buy a Roadtrek RS E-Trek. The website says that the E-Trek model comes equipped with 470 watts solar.. Is that sufficient to run AC, stove, etc. . Or do I still need a generator at some point? Thanks.

@MarkBogojevich 5 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate this video as a touring coach is certainly a consideration for me with two young grandchildren. I like the option to use the coach for touring as the kids get older (possibly to out of town sporting events or something similar) while also being able to overnight somewhere with my wife. I really wish the Galleria offered 3-point belts in the back, and the ERA 70X offered head rests in the back.

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

I know right? The galleria has has headrests but no three pt Seatbelts. The Era has three pt Seatbelts and no head rests.

@rammovva4424 3 жыл бұрын

Just curious how hard or easy it would be to add head rests later ?

@ryancondon95 3 жыл бұрын

@@rammovva4424 I am investigating the same thing. Roadtrek and ERA 70X offer 3pt with one mounted to the side wall and the other mounted to the back wall. Makes me thing that there is not a hidden standards based 3500 mount location and then maybe you have to affix a metal mount anchor behind the wall. My neighbor has a roadtrek, so was going to see if you are able to see behind the wall and get a better idea how they mounted the anchor. I called a few different companies locally in Austin and Tucson about installing after the fact and no one wants the liability. It seems like it would be an easy add.

@rammovva4424 3 жыл бұрын

@@ryancondon95 got it thank you..yah seems most dealers decline to install seat belts or other accessories for liability reasons..which model roadtrek your neighbor has ? RS ? It seems to be the only one in that class (4 front seats) that is on the shorter 3500 (22’ 9”) and not on the extended sprinter one..I am waiting on the 2021 RS model if at all they have one..

@ryancondon95 3 жыл бұрын

@@rammovva4424 He has the CS kzfaq.info/get/bejne/atJ2dshir7WbdnU.html

@WingsandWheelsAlaska 5 жыл бұрын

Missed watching your reviews! When we went through both of these vans prior to buying our Revel we were surprised that the quality wasn’t as good in these as it appears. We found the era slightly more comfortable but we were expecting a lot more from both as far as quality goes with the price.

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

agree with your statement here. thanks for sharing your experience.

@johnpuccetti9383 5 жыл бұрын

I am looking forward to information on the Road-trek, Hymer saga as it develops.

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

you got it. i have to call rapido and find out what is going on.

@reginacarmel8421 5 жыл бұрын

Well done, as we have come to expect. Thank you, Neil.

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching @Regina Carmel!

@reginacarmel8421 5 жыл бұрын

Ultramobility What is the possibility of comparing some of the “best of the best?” For instance, it looks as if one company is doing several of the coaches (Irok, Great West - apologize that I do not remember names offhand) and they do good work and fine design. How would they compare with, say, PW? And I love that you are including some other Canadian designs/vans. Finally, since PW and LWV make B+/C vans, would I think of including some others with similar designs, ie, Tiffin, the larger Coach House, et.al.? Again, better quality coaches with innovative ideas. Always looking forward to your reviews. Some good products now being made. Thank you!

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

next week tiffin v winnebago navion!

@reginacarmel8421 5 жыл бұрын

Ultramobility mind reader! 🥰

@CarrieJo5916 5 жыл бұрын

Good Review, Thank You Neil!

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

you are more than welcome Carrie Jo. Thanks for watching! hope it was helpful.

@davidmurling4252 5 жыл бұрын

I personally don't care for diesel engines. I refuse to pay $300 for an oil change and other repairs and parts are priced in the thousands of dollars. That kind of takes away from the cost savings of travelling in a camper. Gas engines are much cheaper to fix.

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

i have a diesel and only pay like $100 for an oil change...

@Judy-cm6kp 5 жыл бұрын

I agree. I won't buy a sprinter with diesel. There are states where you can't buy the proper fuel mix for Mercedes Sprinter. Also repairs on MB is more difficult then gas engines.

@tomearly6165 5 жыл бұрын

David murling I have had 3 diesels and ordered a forth and have never spent a dine of engine repair, what diesel critics always seem to miss is the abundance of torque at much lower rpm which makes driving these heavy vehicles so much more relaxing.

@biaggiwins 5 жыл бұрын

My semi truck's 12.7 liter engine doesn't cost $300 for an oil change.

@juliapl3174 5 жыл бұрын

Great videos. When will you be giving us Dean’s answers? I can’t wait!

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

soon! i have like 6 videos work of stuff that i captured over 2 days there

@alextot4484 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Neil. Just one correction on your review. The back captain seat next to the sliding door on the Winnebago Era is a two point seatbelt and not a three point. I was in couple of these coaches (20017 & 2018 models) and noticed that this seat only has a lap belt where the opposite seat is a three point seatbelt. By the way, great review. Thanks.

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

Are you kidding me? thank you so much for pointing that out! i'll have to triple check these things moving forward.

@jeffh5934 5 жыл бұрын

Now if I can just get a Pleasure-Way Plateau XLTS outfitted like an upgraded Coachmen...12 volt air conditioning, mega lithium and new style insulation.

@s2k442 5 жыл бұрын

yes please!

@rojo7261 5 жыл бұрын

Another great detailed review Neil... ...Thank you

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

really glad that you found it useful thanks for letting me know!

@brianwhitaker6040 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Neil another great review you get some great options in the US

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

thanks brian! how's your new coach working out for you?

@brianwhitaker6040 5 жыл бұрын

Neil its going ok we took it to Queenstown in Jan Feb for3 week and Gisborne in March for two weeks all went well. Just getting some minor issues sorted this week and have had a power audit done because I feel we dont have enough power and it looks like we need to beef up the battery and solar panel In general iam really happy

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

really glad to hear it brian! love hearing stories of people who have moved into the rv lifestyle. keep making those memories and enjoy it! thanks for sharing.

@theseniorthrifter9994 5 жыл бұрын

I had been looking at Born Frees and RoadTreks, both of which went out of business. What are your thoughts about buying either of these due to the fact of their bankruptcies? I was looking at older ones. What about parts for repairs? Thank you. Very informative videos!

@johnyang1420 4 жыл бұрын

Any rv place can service these....so no problem.

@crizzo66 5 жыл бұрын

Have you given any thought to the American Coach American Patriot? The floor plans seem to compete directly with the 70x and 24q.

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

i believe it is a rebranded midwest automotive passage...

@Sonnyboy346 5 жыл бұрын

Not for me. I'm looking forward to when you get back to doing videos about true class B vans. Agililty, mobility, and stealth are what B vans are all about, IMO. If you can't park in a standard space, it's too big.

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

i hear ya!

@robertschimmick1698 3 жыл бұрын

Are any of the upgrades interchangeable to the ERA ?

@czaz1985 4 жыл бұрын

What it would be nice to C is a B van for couple who is big and tall cant find anything

@ronaldcreighton3289 4 жыл бұрын

I just found the Regency Traveler explorer model 7 ft 4 inside check it out

@ronaldcreighton3289 4 жыл бұрын

They have three models The explorer model has a little bed that comes down from the back you can sleep four and two three point seat belts behind the driver and on the couch in the back so we're checking it out this weekend out in our travels made in fort Worth Texas

@jayyoung5327 5 жыл бұрын

Did you talk about sleeping in these? Do the front captain's chairs align for extra beds? Wondering if you could sleep more than 2 people (or at least sleep kids in the front) :)

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

yes i mention that the memory foam is pretty thin on both these; that the bed is slightly larger on the era and that you'll need a foam topper for both to make them comfortable. they are designed for a couple unfortunately. you could buy an air mattress from the front seats to sleep a child.

@jayyoung5327 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultramobility you are right, sorry, I meant to discuss sleeping up front in the coaches. I guess they don't have this then. Some coaches I thought have "special air mattresses" to fit across the captains chairs to make additional beds. Always looking for possible ability to find a class B that is family friendly :)

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

@Jay Young you may be able to just buy the Pleasureway front bed air mattress and use it on one of these.

@Samuel10463 5 жыл бұрын

@@Ultramobility - 22' - 24' small class C can seat 4 and comfortably sleep 4 and is cheaper too... just saying.

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

i'm not aware of any class c that has 3-pt seatbelts outside the cab...

@maryalaw7612 2 жыл бұрын

Do they have o2 concentration ability

@Origen17 5 жыл бұрын

I'd love to know how much better you feel the Airstream Interstate Lounge or Regency Xalta is for their respective prices.

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

I like the interior design of the Airstream better but its price is way too high. i like the pseudo-dry bath on the Xalta plus that twin bed setup is nice. price is much better.

@wolfeb99 5 жыл бұрын

They have multiple seatbelts but no extra bed?

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

yeah it's a touring coach meant for carrying passengers on longer trips in relative comfort. then to act as an rv for a couple.

@sewistnotsewer 5 жыл бұрын

Put the kids in a tent. They love it!

@wolfeb99 5 жыл бұрын

JenBellingham that doesn’t really work at rest stops etc.

@kiwiwizard1 5 жыл бұрын

Brian Wolfe i own a 24Q & we make a bed for our son using 3 of the 4 front seats. We can still enter/exit without obstruction even if our teenager is still sleeping

@jorad4887 2 жыл бұрын

It's actually a dodge chassis.

@getcraig55 5 жыл бұрын

Coachmen Galleria wins my vote for sure.. but Neil, it looks like u wasn’t feeling ur best

@Ultramobility 5 жыл бұрын

I was tired. I had to write and film and edit 2 videos that week because I was heading to Canada. Plus i went unscripted for this video as a test. But glad that you watch enough to notice.

@getcraig55 5 жыл бұрын

Ultramobility jus tired I see, and I watch ur videos all the time.. I pay attention to everything. Jus didn’t seem like ur usual-self