Walmart Supertech MP10060 Oil Filter Cut Open vs. ACDelco PF48E Oil Filter Cut Open

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Whip City Wrencher

Whip City Wrencher

2 жыл бұрын

Oil Filter Review,
Is the ACDelco oil filter better than the Supertech oil filter? Let's open them up and see what's inside!
Walmart Supertech MP10060:
ACDelco PF48E RockAuto:www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo....
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@davidbaker3270
@davidbaker3270 2 жыл бұрын
well i would take the ac one more filtration because of the lack of metal plates and changed on a every year basis result better engine life so lets see some trials done on filters after say 10000 miles with flow rates before use and after then cut open checks
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Great Idea!👍👍 I dont use this filter but if anyone else does and wants to send me a used one I'll make a video out of it and see how it did. I'll pin this comment so it sits up Top.
@dealy9268
@dealy9268 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher I'm not going 10,000 miles on a filter to check!
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 2 жыл бұрын
@@dealy9268 I have gone 35 thousand miles 5 times before changing my full synthetic oil and it was still barley Brown not bad oils and filters can do it these days compared to 3000 mile oil changes from the 60s and I did that on a 25 year old 4runner
@dealy9268
@dealy9268 2 жыл бұрын
@@AntonioClaudioMichael Okay, you do you. As a former auto tech from the 2000's with 24 years experience I would not do that. But that's me.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 2 жыл бұрын
@@dealy9268 I been a auto Tech For 40 year if you were going to say you do you then you canceled out your own point ... I did it for testing and when the oil looks dang near brand new after 35 thousand miles that is impressive oil and I see how I wrote it kinda sounded like I was saying 35 thousand 5 times before I did a oil change and that is not what I ment I drove 35thousand miles then did a oil change and I did that 5 different times for testing with 5 different oil changes to test the consistency of the oil brand I was using
@jeffyoung6231
@jeffyoung6231 2 жыл бұрын
My dad was a tool maker for Campbell filter in Dexter Mo. They made oil filters. There was like 15-17 brands of oil filters. Everyone was made on the same line using the same materials. The difference came when separated at the paint line, some were orange, white and many other colors. There are very few companies that make there own filters and that are different.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
This is true, but even though the same company makes them, there are variants, bigger inlet holes, more pleats, holes, louvers, plastic cages, etc...These filters might be made by the same company, and may even use the same filter media at times, but if you watch my videos you'll see that the insides are different. This is what I try to show. You can decide which filter you want to use. Thanks for sharing
@dodgeramsport01
@dodgeramsport01 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher if 15 of them come off the same line and only separation is paint then how do they differ? And do you think wal mart has a filter factory and advance and autozone have their own filter factorys? Lol there all the same and you can not tell a good filter from a bad one unless you test them both after being in service! But I guess you guys don't want to get your hands dirty
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
@@dodgeramsport01 Please name me a filter that is the same for a Walmart Supertech oil filter, an Advance Auto oil filter, and an Autozone oil filter. I'll pick up all 3, cut them open, and see if they are all the same.
@IrrationalBstrd
@IrrationalBstrd 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher K&N filter vs Supertech... I believe they are identical inside.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
@@IrrationalBstrd They make 3 different K&N oil filters and 2 different Supertech oil filters. They are not all the same.
@user-lm1rf6hg7e
@user-lm1rf6hg7e 4 ай бұрын
I am a retired mechanic and I also spent 17 years in a GM parts department,AC Delco oil filters years ago were the best, but just like everything they made them cheaper,no big surprise.
@ChicagoRob2
@ChicagoRob2 2 жыл бұрын
The SuperTech is a damn nice filter. Metal end caps, silicone anti-drain back, lots of big return holes, high-flowing nylon cage, and plenty of filtration media. Best in its price range.
@Andrew__Smith
@Andrew__Smith 2 жыл бұрын
Are you loose your eyes? Both filter in video -piece of junk!
@ChicagoRob2
@ChicagoRob2 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew__Smith You’re out of your mind. Show me a better constructed filter in the SuperTech price class. I’ll wait.
@Andrew__Smith
@Andrew__Smith 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChicagoRob2 Sorry dear, but I'm not an expert on sorts of shits
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback👍
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback👍
@bjnopoli
@bjnopoli Жыл бұрын
Super t. Because I change my oil early. Usually by color. So saving the money on an oil change works for me. At the rate I change my oil both should have life left.
@veriuni
@veriuni 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching your videos and others they bring me up when I am having a rough day and not making any money in my side business of changing oil on my days off from work.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Glad you like the videos. Way to go with oil changing, 👍I'm sure you do a way better job than those quickly lubes. Believe me, I know, if you do a good job they'll be calling you to do other things as well. Have a Happy New Year!
@stevenw2866
@stevenw2866 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another inside look into filters. Media composition and filtration rates aside, which are sometimes impossible to obtain from the manufacturers or difficult to obtain on your own without costly apparatus, your videos furnish viewers with info they would not have unless they wasted money opening the unused filters that you open. Keep it up. I appreciate it!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!🙌 I'm glad you like the videos😊, I hope I can help some people out. Take care
@stevewinger7235
@stevewinger7235 Жыл бұрын
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@Chickenhead2174
@Chickenhead2174 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Great camera work too. Very clear. Thank you for sharing.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!👍 Glad you liked the video!
@user-px2xz1bu1x
@user-px2xz1bu1x 8 ай бұрын
I love these video's. I'm glad that your taking apart oil filters. It gives us a good review and look on how these filters are built plus it keeps the filter company's on their toes.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, Greg I'm glad you like the videos😊👍
@user-px2xz1bu1x
@user-px2xz1bu1x 7 ай бұрын
@WhipCityWrencher can you do something on oil additive. If there worth it or no
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 7 ай бұрын
@@user-px2xz1bu1x The only thing I could do with oil additives is send a sample to a lab and have it analyzed.
@user-px2xz1bu1x
@user-px2xz1bu1x 7 ай бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher ok thanks for the reply
@AlejandroAmayaCooking
@AlejandroAmayaCooking 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I’ve been looking forward it. It made my day! Thank you!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome! Glad you liked the video🙌
@poolmotorrepairguyFL
@poolmotorrepairguyFL Жыл бұрын
The Florida pool pump motor repair guy, approved ! that was good info, thanks WCW
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
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@rickbrown7067
@rickbrown7067 2 жыл бұрын
Another great job Peter! Keep up the good work!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!🙌
@rogerclark9285
@rogerclark9285 2 жыл бұрын
I think you could safely wager a large amount that those filters came from the same factory. When you calculated the area of the filter media you left off the part of the walmart filter that was cut off with the end caps. Include that and will have as much or more area than the Delco. Oil can still penetrate that part of the media and go around the flange on the metal cap.
@carlmclean5076
@carlmclean5076 Жыл бұрын
Oil will filter in the material cut off in the end caps. SuperTec looks overall better.
@gregrussell4189
@gregrussell4189 2 жыл бұрын
First THANK YOU for your complete breakdown on what is inside these two filters. I have a 2005 Envoy 4.2 inline 6 and its time to change the oil. As a side note I have used Castrol all synthetic Extended high mileage last two oil changes with the oil changed at 8,500 mile mark both times and this time its right at 8,000 , no use of oil, runs great and when I switched to this Castrol you could feel how the engine ran smoother and increased mpg slightly. Rolling at 183k miles. Hope this info helps other folks. Subscribed
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! and Thanks for sharing all that info!👍
@koshnaranek2317
@koshnaranek2317 2 жыл бұрын
I use the same oil myself the 5W 30. It has additives that help to soften and swell slightly gaskets and seals.
@imarobot3757
@imarobot3757 Жыл бұрын
good video , I use K N HP filters now to each his own in the 60's 70's used fram
@avalanche3084
@avalanche3084 2 жыл бұрын
Been using AC Delco for 35 years and not changing.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing👍
@TrueIndie88
@TrueIndie88 2 жыл бұрын
Supertech... Never would have guessed it would be a stronger filter by comparison. Thank you!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ajmedeiros77
@ajmedeiros77 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe how much better the super tech is. Can’t be beat for the price. I use fram ultra or purolator boss, but I’m going to use the super tech to do a marvel mystery flush. Now I’m confident using it. Thanks whip!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Your Welcome!
@greganderson4547
@greganderson4547 2 жыл бұрын
I've used AC Delco filters from Rock Auto (along with other brands) on my GM van and never had issues but I'll use Wix or Superteck from now on. Thanks for the informative video
@MrRodepp
@MrRodepp 2 жыл бұрын
Bought my 2016 Silverado, & started using Mobile 1 syn / factory specs, as GM runs Mobile fluids. I buy 6 AC/Delco filters, at a time from Rock Auto, at about $1.75 ea. My warranty has passed, but I'm sticking with this, just in case I ever have an engine problem.
@sirjohndoeofpa3292
@sirjohndoeofpa3292 Жыл бұрын
Does your van have a shag rug? A water bed? Or just some candy to bait in the children. Your license plate is CREEPR1
@jamielombardo5292
@jamielombardo5292 2 жыл бұрын
I stay with A.C. Delco for one reason above all. They do not leak out the gasket like so many others on my 350 Corvette motor.
@jimmyhamm6041
@jimmyhamm6041 2 жыл бұрын
I've never had problems with Ac Delco. I will continue with them.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing👍
@Pooroljc
@Pooroljc 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this informative video. I've always used the factory AC filters for years and years but now you have convinced me I could feel safe and use the Walmart brand. Kudo's too you..
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 4 ай бұрын
You're Welcome👍💯
@opera93
@opera93 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have used PF46E in my 2007;Canyon / 4 CYL OCCASIONALLY OVER THE YEARS…….. etc..
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
You're Welcome! Thanks for sharing and your feedback👍
@jackrein293
@jackrein293 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. When comparing filters the 3 most critical measures are the micron rating (how small of particles it will filter out), It's BETA rating (how efficient the filter is at removing these particles), and the last measure is how much of these contaminants the filter material can hold in grams. In general if one uses a good synthetic oil with a good filter you can easily follow the engine manufacturer's criteria for oil change intervals. If you are changing your oil at 3000 miles you are probably throwing away good oil.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!, Mileage and time spent in the engine are two things to consider.
@michaelherrell5381
@michaelherrell5381 2 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly the Super Tech is a better made filtet in my opinion. Both very similar in their design. But the Super Tech has better materials and construction. Good show.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!😊
@leocrisp6543
@leocrisp6543 2 жыл бұрын
Super tech may look nicer and appear as such ! But when you figure it took all that glue to glue metal caps on and then you lose length do to end caps on top of extra pleats does it restrict oil flow ! If go ac all day !
@Theywaswrong
@Theywaswrong 2 жыл бұрын
@@leocrisp6543 Slipping filter hairs I think. I still change my oil by less than 4,000 miles, shot for 3,000 so pretty much any filter will do.
@edwardthayer9386
@edwardthayer9386 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo! You are the winner!
@KM-os4be
@KM-os4be 2 жыл бұрын
Good timming. I just changed over to the Supertech MP10060 from the PF48E on my 07 LS2 Corvette last summer. So far all is good.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, guess so! Thanks for Sharing👍
@daviddill5227
@daviddill5227 2 жыл бұрын
I use the exact same filter size 10060 in SuperTech form. I knew from my own observation that AC DELCO makes Supertech. I have been using Supertech a long time now, as with my experience with AC Delco I have been satified with their performance. I will likely continue using SuperTech long into the future until they change things up again.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, Champ Labs Makes the ACDelco and the Supertech. Thanks for your feedback👍
@greggc8088
@greggc8088 2 жыл бұрын
I use anything but a Fram. Supertech is my most often used. Since Walmart in my area doesn't stock a good variety of filters I often order Wix since they are cheap on Amazon.
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 2 жыл бұрын
WOW for $3 ST looks great , I use Purolator One got several when they were on sale.
@GregHuston
@GregHuston 2 жыл бұрын
Good comparison, I think I'll buy the Supertech from now on! Usually run the ACdelco in my truck. I saw "Whip City Wrencher" and thought nah can't be Westfield. Then as soon as I heard you speak; gotta be! I used to spend lots of time at the BMX track there.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Whip City BMX, Ive never been to any events but seems like it would be fun. Small world, thanks for sharing
@davidr.wilson8194
@davidr.wilson8194 2 жыл бұрын
My 2003 Corolla , at 193,000 miles , still runs like new.Ive been using Walmart Supertech 5W 30 full synthetic and Frams cheapest oil filter.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Sharing!👍
@Bellathebear777
@Bellathebear777 2 жыл бұрын
My bros car 04 matrix ie Corolla 285 K still gets the Estimated mileage 30 Highway. 26 city. I'd use a better filter. Jus sayin. It's worth it. That's a great little motor..I was unaware that the matrix is a Corolla. I'm impressed by that little car. I'd love a old Crx or insight, but there way more $$$$$ than there worth to me. My bro asked me to go thru the matrix. & Bailed. I drove it a cpl days, & did all the maintenance. He has a small ps leak from the lower hose at the reservoir. So called mechanics couldn't find it. It left a heloifa mess. after going thru the motor, & changing out the trans fluid.( Do it" it has a drain plug. 3 Qts of T IV ) I am impressed with the car...He drives Uber, & said he has had over 6000 trips, with approx 10K customers in that car. But wanted to sell it. He was done. He sold it to me for the junkyard quote. I love this little car! Yeah the doors aren't heavy like a Lincoln mark viii, But it's just as reliable. I've owned over 309 Cars & trucks, I love finding a model I've never had, & making em go, like they should. I enjoy helping many keep there cars in top condition. Yes I loved my 91 SR5 V6 Xtra cab 4x4 on the fly,. But with gas here at $6 a gal. I don't miss that. P.s. the kyb front struts are Nice. Remember Americans don't buydung 💩 We knew years ago, these people were corrupt as hell, & now they're proving it, to the 🌎. 🙏💕💪✌️🏜️
@siryarwammowray3445
@siryarwammowray3445 2 жыл бұрын
205k miles on my 2005 2500hd gmc been using acdelco from the first oil change
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing👍
@aboyd1988
@aboyd1988 Жыл бұрын
I would definitely take a closer look at Super Tech after this. Never gave that brand a thought until now.
@jonallen1985
@jonallen1985 2 жыл бұрын
Please for the love of god never go 20000 miles between oil changes, I’ve seen what happens when you do and it’s not pretty.
@bgood213
@bgood213 5 ай бұрын
Even with full synthetic??
@esiljander2362
@esiljander2362 5 ай бұрын
I had a car with a cartridge filter, had to change the filter every 5k as it would start to crush in, but ran the oil a lot longer to what the oil manufacture indicated.
@donwyoming1936
@donwyoming1936 4 ай бұрын
Having just talked to a couple of oil industry chemists, they have spent decades developing additive packages and formulating base oils to last 20k miles. They have spent millions of dollars in development and millions more testing the oil in actual vehicles. Testing the oils constantly through 20k miles. Cutting open engines. Running engines until they finally fail. When they say the oil is good for 20k, it's better than good for 20k miles.
@prevost8686
@prevost8686 4 ай бұрын
@@donwyoming1936 The problem lies in the fact that the oil manufacturers can’t test every engine in production. Due to poorly designed PCV systems some engines will sludge regardless of the quality of the engine oil. I’ve seen certain models that have sludged up running synthetic oil at 5000 mile intervals because of poor design and no long drain oil can over that. Saying an oil can run X number of miles guaranteed is a blanket statement that doesn’t apply to every engine. After 30 years in the automotive industry I’ve seen my share of engines that customers sludged up because the design of the engine simply wasn’t conducive to long oil drain intervals.
@danielbonner8309
@danielbonner8309 3 ай бұрын
​@@prevost8686Absolutely. I learned that lesson first hand. You got to do your best to research the vehicle and engine your buying. I stay away from certain manufacturers. Though every brand has good designs and bad designs,
@WaybackTECH
@WaybackTECH 2 жыл бұрын
My 06 Fusion with the Mazda 2.3L engine uses one of those canister filters with just the media to replace. Shockingly those cost as much or more than a traditional oil filter. Making out good there I think. The cap comes off and has an inner nylon cage like these use. It seemed to me that was a huge improvement for oil flow, and I am glad to see that being implemented in oil filters. Having said that, I am going to start buying Supertech filters again. I used them years ago when they cost $2. I still have one from about 10 years ago. I will have to cut it open and see what they were like back then compared to now.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, They must make more $ on the cartridge oil filters, not much to them. But very easy for us, the customer to compare. I dont know if you saw this video I made on 3 cartridge oil filters a while back. It's a bit of an eye-opener on the price we pay for filter boxes lol. Thanks for the feedback 👍kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdmficeB2syzmmg.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
@chriscosby2459
@chriscosby2459 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2006 Fusion that uses a cannister, it is odd that you don't get a price break. You have to be careful with the o-ring, one time I didn't install the large o-ring quite right and I had a leak. Luckily I caught the leak while test running the car on the ramp. I have been charging my own oil and filters for about 45 years, and that was the first leak I've ever experienced.
@edy5082
@edy5082 2 жыл бұрын
If there is enough room to add an adapter, they see a modification to switch over to spin on filter instead of the canister style
@chriscosby2459
@chriscosby2459 2 жыл бұрын
@@edy5082 Interesting I will check into that.
@LA_Commander
@LA_Commander 2 жыл бұрын
The Ford Focus with the 2.3L Mazda engine came with a spin on filter, the FL-910. You can purchase the oil filter housing for the Focus and it bolts right on to your Mazda. They after that you can use the spin on filter. Word of caution: use the correct torque spec for the bolts because the housing is aluminum and it's very easy to crack the case.
@davekana8388
@davekana8388 2 жыл бұрын
Super Tech It’s the one I always grab for my Wife’s 2007 RAV4 V6, 171K and the Super Tech high mileage 5W30 synthetic oil, change it every 5K. Oil is still clean when I change it! 👍 Liked and subscribed, Dave.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!🙌 5K is a good OCI👍
@davekana8388
@davekana8388 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher agree! It’ll probably rust away before it wears out! I do Fluid Film it, so we’ll see!!
@ChicagoRob2
@ChicagoRob2 2 жыл бұрын
A great combination you can always rely on.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
► Oil Filter Friday, watch a New Automotive oil filter inspection video every Friday on this KZfaq channel.
@rp1645
@rp1645 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your details on filters. Great information. I always cut open my used filter just to see the color or junk on media. I just like looking at stuff like that.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
@@rp1645 Your Welcome! Thanks for sharing👍
@elsierra9741
@elsierra9741 Жыл бұрын
Went to Walmart yesterday and got a super tech oil filter and super tech 5w20 full synthetic. First time using this brand since I heard many good things about it
@sirjohndoeofpa3292
@sirjohndoeofpa3292 Жыл бұрын
Supertech full synthetic oil and filters are great! Just don't fall for the "advanced" 20,000 mile oil marketing trick. Why would you go 20,000 miles without changing the oil? Even 10,000 is pushing it!
@brown5252
@brown5252 Жыл бұрын
@@sirjohndoeofpa3292 unless they only change the oil not filter...some vehicles oil filter are a bear getting to it...
@btx5740
@btx5740 Жыл бұрын
Same thing or better Motor Oli & Filter
@Broman-es4sx
@Broman-es4sx 2 жыл бұрын
I would take super tech they’re so much cheaper and the metal end caps are boss, along with the silicone , should prove better under a wider range of conditions. Thanks for opening them up !
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Your Welcome! Thanks for sharing👍
@carlovanrijk4039
@carlovanrijk4039 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher I was just at Wal Mart this afternoon looking at both of these filters. The SuperTech MP series filters run about $3 less than the comparable AC Delco. I have even used the SuperTech filters on my niece’s ‘15 Chevy Malibu, and took an AC Delco off of it. For my money, SuperTech for the win!
@msclecarcrzy
@msclecarcrzy 2 жыл бұрын
I do believe both are made in the same factory. Slight differences and they duked it out but supertech comes out on top here!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
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@garyeckel8876
@garyeckel8876 2 жыл бұрын
Fram n Full Synthetic Oil, filter every 3K, Oil every 10K..no problems..200 to 300 miles a day 6 days a week 2.5L 2011 Ford Mazda Engine 350K and still going...
@gregbellinger5765
@gregbellinger5765 2 жыл бұрын
Good review and camera work.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Greg! Glad you liked the video!
@uglyhandgarage2927
@uglyhandgarage2927 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video Whip... I'm going with the Supertech. I really like the new MP Supertech line up!!!!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!🙌
@abea4696
@abea4696 2 жыл бұрын
I have been using supertech oil and filters for over 8 years. No problems
@gregdudleysalesconsultant4842
@gregdudleysalesconsultant4842 2 жыл бұрын
The filter sold under the AC/Delco brand is a Purolator filter that's what 'PF' stands for in the 'PF48E' product number, the Walmart brand filter is made by Champion Laboratories. I use Walmart brand oil and filters and have been having very good luck...
@CARyan08
@CARyan08 2 жыл бұрын
This was well done. You would be surprised as to the number of "Tier 1" suppliers that supply filters to the OEMs. Very short list. Oh, and all of them make 2nd and 3rd level filters that are less expensive than the OE service brand.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@MarcelloTheBandit
@MarcelloTheBandit Жыл бұрын
I honestly wouldn't feel bad using the AC Delco filter. That core looks just like a Mahle oil filter, save the reinforcement in the center. Changed every 5k miles, I never had a problem with them just like we haven't had a problem, with those ACD's. As far as I'm concerned, these are two good filters for a lot of people's needs. Not the best, not the worst, but very good for a large group.
@ellalamont6943
@ellalamont6943 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how Super Tech is 8 inches longer, but it's only a difference of 2 pleats. Another great review of filters!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ella, Merry Christmas! You and Dennis😊
@ellalamont6943
@ellalamont6943 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Merry Christmas to You and Family, too! 🎄
@lloydshultz9645
@lloydshultz9645 2 жыл бұрын
I use both. Never any problem
@shaggydogg630
@shaggydogg630 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using super tech synthetic oil for a while now. No problems.
@danray9744
@danray9744 2 жыл бұрын
Can't understand why everybody is all Bent Over oil filters with felt end caps I have Never seen one destroy a Engine ONLY THING i seen that Destroyed a engine is NOT Changing The OIL NOT the OIL Filter Failing .
@mikebennett703
@mikebennett703 2 жыл бұрын
I think supertech takes this one....It is made with better quality materials..Great video! 👍👍
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!🙌
@chucknSC
@chucknSC Жыл бұрын
I’ve used the AC Delcos ( mostly on GM’s) for years without any problems. Except on our Toyotas where I use Toyota filters.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
Hi Chuck, Thanks for Sharing!
@rhubarbsipes1
@rhubarbsipes1 2 жыл бұрын
The comments about splitting hairs and "good enough" for street and the price concerns reminded me to remind everyone here that the engineers and us are asking a hell of lot out of all these tiny displacement, direct injection, turbo and twin turbo engines. The tolerances on these things are very tight. No room for error. As I replied to a earlier post, I watched a Fram collapse on first start up. Fresh race motor on a stand that allowed me to see it crush like cheap beer can. Been doing street and race motors over 45 yr. and I'll tell you these tiny boosted motors are on the edge just like racing motors. Just keep that in mind when choosing your next filter.
@SlikLizrd
@SlikLizrd 2 жыл бұрын
Yo, UncleLarry !! You say that you "watched a Fram collapse on first start-up" -- which makes NO sense, because the oil filter is under PRESSURE, and it will BURST long before it could ever "collapse", or "crush like a cheap beer can". It's common practice for engine buliders to blame their mistakes on unrelated parts -- and the much-maligned FRAM oil filters are an easy target.
@rhubarbsipes1
@rhubarbsipes1 2 жыл бұрын
@@SlikLizrd Howdy Chuck; Beats me why it didn't swell instead of shrinking. Saw it with my own eyes though. No cannabis involved. I did ask around. Only explanation that made half sense was combination of high volume Melling pump and stuck bypass valve. Naturally I primed system first and had oil from all push rods and pumped up lifters. Maybe you can come with something.That was 20 some years ago and have not seen that since. I only used Frams for cam break-in because they were cheap. Not anymore. Hasting, Purolator, Wix or NAPPA for me. Race or street.
@Bellathebear777
@Bellathebear777 2 жыл бұрын
@@rhubarbsipes1 I believe you. My bro was letting a brand new bmw idle at the dealer, it overheated and caught fire. Lol. Poof ! 🔥
@dwendt44
@dwendt44 2 жыл бұрын
Both filters are made by Champ Labs. The AC here is more comparable to the regular SuperTech($3). the media in the ST is thicker making it a notch above the AC.
@gwarlow
@gwarlow Жыл бұрын
13:20 If you change your oil as often as directed in your owners manual, I doubt those metal end caps will play much of a role. On the other hand 2 dollars more is hardly a deal breaker when it comes to protecting your engine oil from contaminants. Nice video. Cheers!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
Thank You! Cheers!
@generalzod7959
@generalzod7959 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say the supertech wins especially when you consider it is less expensive. Definitely a better value.
@joshkonczal9327
@joshkonczal9327 2 жыл бұрын
The super tech was roughly 40% more according to the beginning of this video. Also the ST is a 20,000 mile filter over the AC was a standard
@SlikLizrd
@SlikLizrd 2 жыл бұрын
The Supertech's Silicone Anti-Drainback Valve makes it the clear winner.
@JorgeGarcia-ls1qy
@JorgeGarcia-ls1qy 2 жыл бұрын
Good job on finding out a good oil filter for my jorgegarcia Dallas Texas
@Dave-lm3th
@Dave-lm3th 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love em!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!🙌
@Ffsdevgj
@Ffsdevgj Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks man!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
You're Welcome! Thank You!
@fredkelso1089
@fredkelso1089 2 жыл бұрын
They are both built by Champ filter co.
@JohnSmith-yn8pl
@JohnSmith-yn8pl 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, just wanted to say when you measure the pleats , use the wide part of the calipers for accurate readings on soft materials.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion, I'm thinking of converting an extra caliper I have, maybe glue some small round flat disc on the caliper. Thanks for watching!👍
@SlikLizrd
@SlikLizrd 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher NAH. Don't bother. The thickness of the filtering media doesn't really tell us anything about the ability of the media to gather and/or trap harmful particles. The thickness of the media and the Day Code on the filter -- BOTH are un-necessary to report -- but thanks for your past efforts !
@PayNoTaxes0GetNoVote
@PayNoTaxes0GetNoVote 2 жыл бұрын
@@SlikLizrd I think build dates are applicable in case some time down the road they change design. It let's you know on "X" day we know they changed build quality.
@SlikLizrd
@SlikLizrd 2 жыл бұрын
@@PayNoTaxes0GetNoVote The subject was "Date Codes" -- which are rarely shown as an actual date, and often contain misleading digits that are of NO USE to the filter purchaser. Internal info, such as expressed in these so-called "Date Codes" is of no use at all to the consumer. As I've said many times before -- actual dates are expressed as "mm/dd/yyyy", or "dd/mm/yyyy". Yes those "build codes" are uaeful, but NOT TO THE CONSUMER. Whip City Wrencher tries to give us useful information -- and only an actual "Date Code" is of any use to the viewers.
@SlikLizrd
@SlikLizrd 2 жыл бұрын
@@PayNoTaxes0GetNoVote That's true --BUT -- it has nothing to do with the fact that those codes often CANNOT be of use to the FILTER BUYER, because they are NOT displayed as an actual "Date Code", in which it is expressed as an actual date-- ie, "mm/dd/yyyy". The point is that a bunch of random numbers and letters that's printed on these oil filters is NOT an actual date code, and should not be used to attempt to determine when the oil filter was made. The "code" is for THEIR use -- not OURS. It's a tracking code -- NOT a "Date Code". After observing dozens of oil filter "reviews" by different Filter-Cutter-Opener Guys, I found ONE (1) actual "Date Code" -- the rest were internal tracking codes that are of NO USE to the rest of us.
@jjanderson12001
@jjanderson12001 2 жыл бұрын
Like how in 10 months time (previous comparison video) these filters have completely switched in quality. Probably changed stickers.
@stevencroon
@stevencroon Жыл бұрын
The filter element you left in those steel end caps will still filter as the oil can travel up the side pleats! Looks like a wash to me.
@scottgriffin2005
@scottgriffin2005 2 жыл бұрын
Both filters seem like excellent choices. I usually go with a factory filter if I can. However I do not use fram oil filters any longer. Above all, just change oil at regular intervals, and use oil recommended by the manufactures.
@ramonlepana4360
@ramonlepana4360 2 жыл бұрын
frams are good
@rhubarbsipes1
@rhubarbsipes1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramonlepana4360 You are wrong. Been doing race engines for over 45 years. One step below crap. Watched a Fram collapse on a fresh engine on a stand during cam break-in. Looked like crushed beer can.
@peterlindvall7671
@peterlindvall7671 2 жыл бұрын
Fram used to be a good filter. They went downhill after Allied Signal bought them out.
@lard1892
@lard1892 2 жыл бұрын
Really....did Walmart tell you that?
@MrLukaszcu
@MrLukaszcu Жыл бұрын
Fram are junk anyone that has experience will agree
@b.powell3480
@b.powell3480 2 жыл бұрын
Where I'm at in Southern California, wal mart doesn't carry super tech oil filters, but started carrying the ac Delco brand, however they still have some super tech brand oil in stock!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@TTime685
@TTime685 2 жыл бұрын
The super tech filter material is longer because the individual folded sections are wider. I use super tech oil and filters in all my vehicles 👍🏻
@Monza62000
@Monza62000 2 жыл бұрын
Champion Labs make Supertech oil filters. They are made in the United states of America. In terms of manufacturing, Supertech oil filters are manufactured in about six different states. ..same for ac delco...
@miker252
@miker252 2 жыл бұрын
The felt doesn't bother me. It is commonly used on the very old to newer designed HVAC chillers I've worked on from small to 400 ton. The metal end caps partially restrict some of the filter area. A filter cannot compensate for improper maintenance and I'd be ok with either. So why not buy the cheaper OEM filter?
@Wizkid490
@Wizkid490 5 ай бұрын
Both of these filters are made by Champion labs, one the two three biggest filter manufacturers in the US. There is likely a lot of parts sharing going on here... Those Supertech MP series filters are pretty solid for the money. Hard to find anything much better than locally for a reasonable price.
@ohiostate9156
@ohiostate9156 2 жыл бұрын
I use the AC delcos on all 3 of my gm vehicles and OEM on everything else. I learned my lesson about 10 years ago when the guy at napa gave me the wrong filter for my zero turn that had a kohler engine on it. Filter screwed on but caused oil starvation issues and about mid summer the engine went. It was under warranty but not after they seen it was the aftermarket filter that caused the issue. I use OEM not because they are vastly superior but just so i can say hey GM,Kohler whoever your approved OEM filter caused this issue not something I done and that is something that will stand up in court, Thats how I look at it anyway
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
I can understand warranty issues, I might do the same if I had a new vehicle. Thanks for watching and for your feedback.👍
@mecalpsha4473
@mecalpsha4473 2 жыл бұрын
Always use OEM as well, OEM parts ect.
@2olvets443
@2olvets443 2 жыл бұрын
@@mecalpsha4473 There comes a time when OEM no longer makes the product and you have to settle. Many sell using the term OE and to me that is false advertising. If they claimed OE specs, just like this video shows specs are different, so that too would be false. If they some things were made to OE specs, say water pump as an example, the warranty would/should be much more than what any of the after market offer, as we all know things give out years after purchasing a brand new car. At least in most cases.
@beddozo
@beddozo 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with ya ,,, OEM regardless of where it's made , although it pisses me off when I get a GM part that's made in Mexico . My two Yellow Top batteries that I just bought used to be made in the USA ,,, And now made in Mexico ,,,, And with that said we'll see how long they last in Florida with our Heat
@ansv3340
@ansv3340 2 жыл бұрын
What a load of crap dealer unloaded on u with the engine starvation story and bad filter. Engine went because gm builds crappy engines !
@philc.9280
@philc.9280 2 жыл бұрын
A very well-done comparison. I've been watching these filter comparisons for years as a DIY homeowner with several cars over the years. Been changing oil for over 40 years now myself. I've said several times that I buy whatever is on sale and it's the frequency of oil changes NOT necessarily the type of oil filter. I've used Fram, Supertech, and all the brand names. Years ago we used to change the oil every 3,000 miles. Now I do it between 6-8,000 with synthetic oil or whatever is on sale (even Supertech synthetic). Funny you use an AC PF48 filter. That's the same one on my 2013 C6 Corvette.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!👍
@stevev3142
@stevev3142 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, I have always used either Fram or what ever is on sale. I have never had an engine failure. People make way too much about different brands... As you get older you learn to look past the sales BS and use what works. I used Pennsoil for years until it caused the lifters to sludge up in my 1999 2500 6.0 Sierra. I changer over to full synthetic Supper Tech 0-20 and over time the ticking has gone away.
@ThunderAppeal
@ThunderAppeal 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevev3142 Yes, if you drive like a little old lady then yes it wont make a difference.
@ThunderAppeal
@ThunderAppeal 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you drive like a little old lady on her way to the super market then you are correct it wont make a difference.
@stevev3142
@stevev3142 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderAppeal Won't make a difference if you drive like Richard Petty or a little old lady. Oil filters simply keep out the chunky stuff. They have a bypass valve that opens if the oil pressure gets too high, then you simply bypass the filter. Filter media is rated by micron filtering capability. If you have a tight intake system with a decent air filter, there is not much dust to get into the oil. If you drive like hell and something lets go in the engine no oil filter will help that situation. Engines run better if they are loose than super tight.
@michaelhowell2541
@michaelhowell2541 2 жыл бұрын
Have used Super tech for years. Good filter for the money.👍🇺🇸
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback👍
@michaelhowell2541
@michaelhowell2541 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher Always ready to give it to intelligent creators. Keep up the good work.👍🇺🇸
@MrMaddparkison
@MrMaddparkison 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I love super tech products. An I've used others but I also love to use factory equipment as well. Great video.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! and Thanks for sharing!
@gabagool2064
@gabagool2064 Жыл бұрын
I’m not exclusive with a particular oil filter brand. I bought every Castrol oil filter Menard’s had when they were clearing them out for my 2006 GMC Sierra. 160k miles and it still runs like new. I use Purolator filters in my 2016 VW Jetta daily driver that I get on sale from Farm and Fleet. I’ll probably start buying more from Rockauto and they don’t sell either brand so I may switch again, probably Wix for both cars.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@peterk2455
@peterk2455 Жыл бұрын
I've been inside a number of Chinese factories, over the years that I worked there. Saw quite a number of products, some famous brands too. They ALL had 'Made In USA' ( or Germany, UK, etc) on them. It comes down to knowing where the factory is located.
@chrismemphis8062
@chrismemphis8062 2 жыл бұрын
Supertech wins on price. I've been running supertech full synthetic and filters for 20 years and keep all my vehicles well over 200k. No problem here.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@Bellathebear777
@Bellathebear777 2 жыл бұрын
They look fine.
@k20fa5
@k20fa5 2 жыл бұрын
Both made by Champion Labs. The new PF63 looks more like that Supertech as far as construction goes. The old PF63E looks more like that PF48E.
@hudsonvalleyrailandriverandair
@hudsonvalleyrailandriverandair 2 жыл бұрын
I am a believer in oem, simply because of premature engine failure and warranty protection, "your not covered, you didn't use our oem filters as prescribed in our vehicle warranty agreement "
@Elcherokee719
@Elcherokee719 2 жыл бұрын
Jus to give an idea for micron: a white blood cell is 20 microns, fine dust is 40 microns and hair is approximately 80 microns. I would imagine that oil filter manufacturers follow ISO guidelines. Great video!
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! and Thanks for the micron rating😊
@Bellathebear777
@Bellathebear777 2 жыл бұрын
Ty
@squidusn71
@squidusn71 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comparison. I put honda filters on my honda but recently started using Fram Ultra synthetic filter. It's more pricey but I've done away with the old school 3k mile oil changes and just follow Honda recommendation entervals which is at least twice as long.
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 2 жыл бұрын
6K should be fine as long as the engine stays clean and the oil is high quality long life. A small amount of engine treatment before an oil change helps.
@ramonlepana4360
@ramonlepana4360 2 жыл бұрын
fram baby!!!
@davidcarper5411
@davidcarper5411 2 жыл бұрын
Oem is far superior to fram Hilarious
@Bellathebear777
@Bellathebear777 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramonlepana4360 lol, a a little nollege is a dangerous thing. BUYDUNG HARRIS 2020!
@Bellathebear777
@Bellathebear777 2 жыл бұрын
You won't see Honda engineers putting in a fram filter on they're cars. But then again I haven't seen the inards of that filter in the past few years. It may be superior " but I doubt it. Will it hurt? I doubt it. Will it help? I doubt it. Would I choose fram over wix Purolator ac Delco or the supert . Hell no
@erastuserazade9785
@erastuserazade9785 Жыл бұрын
Supertech engine oil is definitely a totally excellent product ; same for oil filter. Surely, regular oil change keeps engine running great. Our 2003 vehicle runs great, as engine oil change is done within 7,500 mile interval.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing👍
@letaloudone
@letaloudone 2 жыл бұрын
I use WIX on most of my cars. Motorcraft on my Ford diesel. Walmart notorious for cheap quality.
@Theywaswrong
@Theywaswrong 2 жыл бұрын
If you change your oil by 4,000 or less like so many still do, like me, either filter will be fine. I won't lose any sleep switching from Wix to a Super Tech which I have done on my daily driver.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing👍
@googleusergp
@googleusergp 2 жыл бұрын
There's a good chance that Champion Labs is making both filters and that's why the quality is similar/close on both. The "E" in the Delco part is for "E-Core" which was done some years back in order to consolidate applications and lower the amount of SKUs that have to be carried on the shelf.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
The are both made by Champ labs. Thanks for the feedback👍
@googleusergp
@googleusergp 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhipCityWrencher Sure. There are only a few real "manufacturers" out there. Everyone else is a rebox/private label of one of those few manufacturers.
@Bellathebear777
@Bellathebear777 2 жыл бұрын
Champion labs = Nice quality
@greggttube
@greggttube Жыл бұрын
My uncle in Florida told me he saw this in orange juice canneries. Same juice, stop the run, change the labels, restart the run. Just a fact and the reason I do a lot of blind taste tests.
@msk3905
@msk3905 Жыл бұрын
Been driving and building cars since late 80s in that time i have used almost every oil filter sold, yet i have had zero failures due to oil filters. Oddly none of my friends ever experienced a failure due to a poor oil filter? Change oil and filter regularly and you’ll be fine.
@deniseandmarkfirestine7443
@deniseandmarkfirestine7443 Жыл бұрын
Been using tech filters for years, no problem...
@Joe_Blo
@Joe_Blo 2 ай бұрын
What kind of glue do they use to glue the paper filter to metal inside? I want some!
@jimlong527
@jimlong527 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Infomation thank.
@bubbatennessee7531
@bubbatennessee7531 11 ай бұрын
I will go with the Super Tech
@peterlindvall7671
@peterlindvall7671 2 жыл бұрын
Which one would I use? Wix...
@gerrylindberg9367
@gerrylindberg9367 2 жыл бұрын
should check out Cat filters and how donaldson makes them and the diffference betweeen and why
@philllsxga.7737
@philllsxga.7737 Жыл бұрын
what people do not understand about OEM parts is that they are DESIGNED to a certain specification for that vehicle. flow rate of oil etc.. I've been using AC Delcos on my GMs over 30 year's with no internal engine problems. just use the OEM filter designed for your engine...
@rtazman2004
@rtazman2004 2 жыл бұрын
Good Video I Us AC Dalco and WIx for my oil filters and Air I like The Wix and Cabin Filter the AC Delco are the best they are the heaviest and have the best fit in our 2007 Chevy HHR with a 2.2 later 4 Cyl a n d of course it doesn't have a fuel filter is built into the Fuel pump and don't have a external Fuel Filter Just saying good Video.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You! and Thanks for Sharing!
@vegiguy16
@vegiguy16 2 жыл бұрын
My problem with oil filters from most manufacturers today is they keep getting smaller, which seems like it would reduce the filtering capacity. Some filters are so tiny they look like they would be useless after a certain amount of time, depending on the driving conditions. Wix seems to be a little better in this regard, but I still like to try to find the largest filter I can find to fit my car's engine, even if it means using a big block Chevy filter on the small block engine in my car because it's usually larger.
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
If it fits and functions properly go for it. Thank for sharing👍
@whatthewhat11
@whatthewhat11 2 жыл бұрын
Engines and thus oil capacity have become smaller as well. Don't need the same size filter on a 2L I4 as you do a 5L V8
@HappyJ
@HappyJ 2 жыл бұрын
I added a remote oil filter manifold that does 3 things.1) Slightly increases oil capacity with two filters. 2) can mount the manifold away from the heat of the engine. 3) double filters the oil, if you go with that option.
@pjimmbojimmbo1990
@pjimmbojimmbo1990 2 жыл бұрын
Some look like they belong on a Brigs & Stratton Lawn Mower
@txplumcrazy
@txplumcrazy 2 жыл бұрын
MobileOne filters usually are bigger in capacity for every vehicle just letting u know. But u can also do cross references because I ran into two different recommendations for different part numbers for the same motor just for different year models. So check around and make sure u know how much room u have and that way u don't have any clearance problems. WIX makes O'REILLY and NAPA oil filters and they are a better filter just letting u know. The company that makes K&N also makes the Supertech filters FYI. Always remember the name and/or price does not make the better or lesser filter so do ur research.
@edwinallison3799
@edwinallison3799 2 жыл бұрын
Change the oil often and go with either filter.
@JasonKale
@JasonKale 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I learned alot, Good job..
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video.
@traderjack6151
@traderjack6151 Жыл бұрын
Very educational video nice job , the big question is which filter cleans or filters the contamints from the oil? . An oil analysis would give us that result. Filter construction quality and number one how clean is your oil after it’s filtered and returned to sump . A Quality constructed filter that cleans up oil the best. Any body out there sent there oil out for analysis? Project farm?
@WhipCityWrencher
@WhipCityWrencher Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Here's one using a Supertech oil and filter. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d5uni9eK0Mq0iIE.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
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