Whizbang Cider Part 1-Grinding Apples To Mash

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Herrick Kimball

Herrick Kimball

8 жыл бұрын

Important Update: The new WhizbangCider web site is now at this link: whizbangcider2.blogspot.com/
This video introduces you to the amazing homemade Whizbang apple grinder developed by Herrick Kimball in 2008. Instructions for making the grinder can be found in the book, "Anyone Can Make a Whizbang Apple Grinder & Cider Press." More details at this link: whizbangcider2.blogspot.com/
Be sure to watch Whizbang Cider: Part 2-Pressing The Apple Mash at this link: • Whizbang Cider: Part 2...

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@phil8911
@phil8911 7 жыл бұрын
Having built the whizbang press a few years ago, I finally got around to building the grinder... Unbeleivable, I could grind apples faster than my wife could cut them in two pieces. We made 7 gallons of apple juice and asian pear juice in less than two hours.
@lyletimms9891
@lyletimms9891 5 жыл бұрын
pruning blueberries
@erikabuck3881
@erikabuck3881 4 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic! Thank you for making this video!
@ciprianoroi
@ciprianoroi 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a great life you're living. It shows in your videos. I wish you were my grandpa. I think there are a lot that you could teach me, and I bet it's fun spending time with you. One day I will also have, what you have.
@edwardpfaffel4502
@edwardpfaffel4502 9 ай бұрын
Hello. This is a great video. Thanks for producing it. My disposal is a big one but doesn't grind as fast as yours. I solved the over heating problem I drilled a hole near the motor brushes and welded on a male air fitting. Hooked it up to my air compressor and set the pressure to about 5 pounds. Solved the over heating issue. The other thing that works nice is I took a very large stainless bowl for the apple hopper. Just used a hole saw the size of the hole in a sink and buzzed it in. The bowl works nice and looks cool. Hope this helps someone. Thanks, Ed.
@timstricker7850
@timstricker7850 3 ай бұрын
Great video just love your set up. Thanks for sharing-Tim in MI
@mariewhitebowling5775
@mariewhitebowling5775 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I would love to do that.
@gardenertimelapse2877
@gardenertimelapse2877 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Greetings from Poland!
@jerrycampbell9376
@jerrycampbell9376 5 жыл бұрын
Always fun to bring the grandkids into projects! I do the same with mine!
@ralphieclark562
@ralphieclark562 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of the wiz bang series. After watching these I will going to be adding them to my arsenal. Ps.the grandkid is too cute. My grandnephew would love it
@Exal191
@Exal191 5 жыл бұрын
What’s the name of the system again?
@josephvogel7234
@josephvogel7234 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@markdelapeyre2666
@markdelapeyre2666 4 жыл бұрын
How long do you leave the apple juice in the maturation chambers before you get the cider and what yeast do you find is the best?
@user-ii4cm2om4g
@user-ii4cm2om4g 7 жыл бұрын
perfectly!
@tnyberg67
@tnyberg67 6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to built or buy something like this to just grind up extra fruit from our tress and produce to feed chickens. What is the cost on this thing when it's done?
@frankland2000
@frankland2000 5 жыл бұрын
Can you identify the brand & model number of the disposal?
@ryantomkinson583
@ryantomkinson583 11 ай бұрын
What brand and model of the disposal did you use for this?
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 6 жыл бұрын
I've used a couple of disposals and not all are created equal. The better one has a 1hp motor. I modified it to let the pulp through faster, but its still not as fast as yours, even with the large motor. My next plan was to add a ventilation fan to the bottom to force air directly through the motor housing and out side vents. Even though the motor is not probably designed for continuous duty, I suspect that will keep it running, if not indefinitely, then for a long time. Have you tried that? It would be a lot less expense and messing about, and also lighter and smaller. I built a table for mine. The longer portion of the table has 1/4 inch hardward cloth, so you can dump on buckets of wet apples, or rinse and sort them on the table before pushing them over and into the grinder. I like the disposal grinders, but one issue is that they mash apples more than scratter or slicer/crusher type grinders do. The hammer mill just beats them up a lot. That's okay if the apples are firm fleshed, but over ripe or many dessert apples can turn into apple sauce which is hard to press. I've also ground biochar in mine. It wasn't super fast either, but it's okay. The occasional nail or rock is also an issue, but the guts of those things are pretty tough. My char it usually quite dirty as I make it outdoors in piles and pits.
@quinnsommerfeld7458
@quinnsommerfeld7458 6 жыл бұрын
You letting your kid grind apples like that is great! We need more hands on parents like you in the world.
@unbaisedwine7768
@unbaisedwine7768 8 жыл бұрын
thanks you for this!
@drivinglessonscavanleossch9574
@drivinglessonscavanleossch9574 7 жыл бұрын
That kid is going to get his hand chopped off
@kansaIainen
@kansaIainen 6 жыл бұрын
I made an apple grinder from a wood chipper. Actually all I had to do was to sharpen the blades and change the upper part to a funnel that lets whole apples go through.
@MrRhino12667
@MrRhino12667 6 жыл бұрын
What brand chipper?
@rtrspb
@rtrspb 5 жыл бұрын
))) I did the same!
@viktorstech2302
@viktorstech2302 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I get these grinder? is that from rubbish grinder ?
@bartofilms
@bartofilms 3 жыл бұрын
The garbage disposal will be challenging to sanitize, and will grind up seeds and cores, adding bitterness and traces cyonide to your juice, other than that, looks like a cheap, effective way to pulp the apples.
@michaelstavely8769
@michaelstavely8769 5 жыл бұрын
Hey , take and build a apple slicer. Make it to set over a bucket , has stationary blades with plunger handle. Drop apple in tube ( 4-5 inch) plunger pushes apple against blades, slices and drop in bucket. As fast as you can drop , pull , slice. No danger of knife and a lot faster.
@jimdent351
@jimdent351 5 жыл бұрын
Does the grinder break the seeds open at all. I'm just wondering how this would work for grapes. It's my understanding that you don't want to crush too many grape seeds when you are making wine.
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, some apple seeds are cut when the apples are ground up. I once ground grapes and it was very messy. They are so juicy that I'm pretty sure they can just be pressed without grinding. But I'm not positive about that. Maybe someone with some experience pressing grapes can comment.
@jimdent351
@jimdent351 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@waterboy5056
@waterboy5056 4 жыл бұрын
no need to grind grapes. just crush it is a gentle process>Red wine leave skins in the juice/ must. after ferment press it. White wines .crush then press The press lets juice out keeps skins in
@DW-jb5rz
@DW-jb5rz Жыл бұрын
Little furureman is dying to see what happens if he jams his arm down there
@GeirGJohnsendto
@GeirGJohnsendto 2 жыл бұрын
I like to make a similar apple grinder but then I need a drawing that is easy to follow. Do you have the drawing on your website? Also the electrical motor (mark name and quality) and horse powers (1/2 HP) are important. You used a disposal grinder and made a grinder of it. Really smart and it seems that the electrical motor is excellent for grind apples.
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball 2 жыл бұрын
www.planetwhizbang.com/cider-making
@GeirGJohnsendto
@GeirGJohnsendto 2 жыл бұрын
@@herrickkimball Excellent, thank you!
@philliptandymiller1058
@philliptandymiller1058 4 жыл бұрын
If you plan to make more than say 5-10 gallons a season it's worth investing in a grinder that can take any sized whole apples without cutting. Say you're grinding and pressing 500lbs of apples in a day, it would take an absurd amount of time to cut them into halves or quarters. There are many reasonably affordable options on the market, although I'm sure they aren't as inexpensive as this is. I guess if you had people helping maybe this system works well
@HectorPerez-tb8hn
@HectorPerez-tb8hn 3 жыл бұрын
omg !! you're allowed to have and outdoor sink ? in the state of New York > do you have to pay extra property tax ?
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball 3 жыл бұрын
😁There are 2 New Yorks in New York. Downstate and Upstate. I'm in rural upstate. It's more free up here. As far as I know, I can have an outdoor sink and no extra taxes are expected. But I might be breaking a law and don't realize it. A friend in a neighboring rural town told me a couple years ago that some sort of inspector bureaucrat told him he could not have an outdoor shower. He had a camper on his land and a hose hooked up to shower with. I was very surprised to hear that.
@MrMadlionsmith
@MrMadlionsmith 8 жыл бұрын
haha wow, 1/2 HP?
@ranganatharao
@ranganatharao 5 жыл бұрын
The method is simple and easy to do. But the latest finding says that the apple seeds are poisonous. I think it is good to slice the sides of apples leaving the central part containing seeds to trash. And use only the seedless portion.
@THOMAS01ify
@THOMAS01ify 4 жыл бұрын
Humm I bet I can use an onion chopper to separate the cores out.
@ronweszely7498
@ronweszely7498 2 жыл бұрын
Can you let the mash ferment for 10 to 14 days and then press it into hard cider?
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think so.
@ronweszely7498
@ronweszely7498 Жыл бұрын
@@herrickkimball Thank you, it sounded good to me, but I'm just getting into Cider.
@GregariousAntithesis
@GregariousAntithesis 5 жыл бұрын
I am all about kids helping but you have more trust in a child that young than I do.
@tuubeystuff3718
@tuubeystuff3718 5 жыл бұрын
yeah and some ear muffs might have been appropriate
@dylandavis9406
@dylandavis9406 5 жыл бұрын
It's really not that loud. I have/use one, I can tell you that most of the noise is amplified by the mic.
@richlaue
@richlaue 5 жыл бұрын
You guys who feel that a child should be well protected, shielded from all dangers are getting annoying. When the Apple for stuck, did the child push with his hand or the stick? He has more sense than some of the grownups posting A person would need to reach into the drain to reach the blade. I do believe the typical child has enough sense to follow directions. Besides most farm kids are operating $100K farm tractors by 12 years old.
@clivedavies3
@clivedavies3 4 жыл бұрын
There are quicker grinders available without a persuader
@rubygray7749
@rubygray7749 Жыл бұрын
Great info, tragic music!!
@57region57bet
@57region57bet 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, do you have an electronic version of the book Anyone can build Whizbang Apple Grinder & Cider Press?
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have a pfd download of the book. Here's a link... 222218.e-junkie.com/product/1371732#Anyone+Can+Build+a+Whizbang+Apple+Grinder+%26+Cider+Press
@erichaskell
@erichaskell 5 жыл бұрын
Not sprayed equals full of codling larvae? Why is keeping the apples free of invasive pests a negative?
@henrydog6
@henrydog6 7 жыл бұрын
Is there Arsenic in ground apple seeds?
@hjgaming3960
@hjgaming3960 7 жыл бұрын
Paul Fisher arsenic is found in crude oil
@farmbeet2542
@farmbeet2542 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. That's what they say. But it is a small amount. I have a suspicion that a little bit of natural arsenic, along with the juice of the apple, might actually be good for a body.
@artstewart1894
@artstewart1894 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. I would not use this system (a garbage disposer) to grind apples for cider, unless someone other than myself was to drink the cider. For safe cider, seeds should remain whole in the mash. Broken, ground up seeds can introduce cyanide into the juice.
@SkillCult
@SkillCult 6 жыл бұрын
Apple seeds are not as toxic as people think and probably have health benefits. I eat them all the time as do many other people. And yes they compounds are cyanic, not arsenic.
@jameshartwell1429
@jameshartwell1429 5 жыл бұрын
The tiny amount of cyanide that exist within apples is so small, you would actually have to eat the equivalent of an average person's body weight in apples, cores and seeds in all before you begin to feel the effects of any poison, but by then, you are going to have a lot more problems then worrying about that, like how you managed to eat that much apple and how to pass it due to all that fiber from the apples.
@anthonydimoe
@anthonydimoe 7 жыл бұрын
Can this grinder do grapes also
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball 7 жыл бұрын
I have run grapes through the grinder and it liquified them. No pressing required. Just strain. But it was a real mess. I also ran a lot of rhubarb through it once for a wine-making neighbor. Juiced it nicely.
@mike31593
@mike31593 Жыл бұрын
Dude what about the seeds
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball Жыл бұрын
Seeds are not a problem. Commercial cider mills grind apples up with the seeds in them. If you are concerned with the natural toxins, just core the apples. I've heard of people doing that.
@actontreadway1168
@actontreadway1168 2 жыл бұрын
Does no one worry about worms and so forth? I harvested a ton of apples from my trees and about 95% of them have holes from worms, which are usually still in the apple...
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball 2 жыл бұрын
Worms are a concern to some, and not a concern to others. When I'm washing and cutting the apples I'm looking to cull out worm damage and the worms.
@lobo1368
@lobo1368 Жыл бұрын
Worm/parasites are already in your body. A yearly or bi yearly cleanse is wise.
@therickpound
@therickpound Жыл бұрын
Adds to the flavour, sometime we throw a rat in if we’re making a limited edition…cheers
@geraldtompkins7209
@geraldtompkins7209 2 жыл бұрын
I want to grind apples not to make juice
@tomrussell2560
@tomrussell2560 5 жыл бұрын
The reason that you want to use a sanitizer or bleach in the water is to avoid comingling any apples that may have listeria. Listeria although unlikely and not expected to be found has been found in the calyx and deep in the stem of apples. The bleach will help to kill any bacteria that could be lurking. If you are making hard cider the chances of it living decrease but why not take the extra step? :)
@mytech6779
@mytech6779 3 жыл бұрын
"the whizzbang cider making system is remarkably efficient" ... requires hand slicing every apple. hmmmmmm
@jonautry
@jonautry 3 жыл бұрын
It clearly doesn’t require that, as he specifically shows that gridding apples whole works fine. How you prep them is up to you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@kennybrooks4570
@kennybrooks4570 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t like this design
@shandon147
@shandon147 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the kids grind those apples made me cringe how close to pushing his hand in trying to push apples down not great parenting I wanted to scream NO!
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball 2 жыл бұрын
No worries, Martin. The parent showed the child what to do, gave very clear instructions, was watching the whole time, was standing about 3 feet away, and the cutter blades were far enough down inside the machine that the boy would have had to put his arm several inches into the disposal to reach the grinder blades. If you watch closely, my grandson is being very careful. We aren't stupid people here. There was no danger to the child at all. Zero. Thanks for your concern.
@jameshack485
@jameshack485 5 жыл бұрын
Your lucky you didn't have bonus footage of you rushing to the ER with your grandson and his mangled hand. Maybe you are OK with him having a hook for a hand.
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball 5 жыл бұрын
James Hack Thanks for the great comment. I carefully instructed him about how to safely do what he was doing, and I was standing 3 feet away from him the whole time, watching like a hawk. The cutter blades are several inches below the opening. He was followingMy instructions and being very careful. That should be obvious when watching this video.
@mamamoolover2534
@mamamoolover2534 5 жыл бұрын
those apple seeds are toxic and should be removed before mashing..i dont like u mashing apple seeds into the mix..i dont want cynide in my belly
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball 5 жыл бұрын
You can remove the seeds if you like. But I can tell you that no commercial cider pressing operation removes apple seeds. And there are a lot of people who believe that the natural cyanide compound (amigdalin, aka, vitamin B17) is a powerful natural cancer preventative. The same natural chemical is found in apricot seeds. Personally, I have no reservations at all with eating apple seeds. I make a point of picking them out of the core and eating them when I eat an apple.
@mamamoolover2534
@mamamoolover2534 5 жыл бұрын
Herrick Kimball ..good reply..but cynide is never good for human body
@mamamoolover2534
@mamamoolover2534 5 жыл бұрын
i do like taht u take critisism well..very mature
@oby-1607
@oby-1607 5 жыл бұрын
Better not drink water. Drinking too much water can kill you. Some people see a shadow and start predicting the end of the earth.
@mamamoolover2534
@mamamoolover2534 5 жыл бұрын
@@oby-1607 hahaha. .
@jalenjose3905
@jalenjose3905 4 жыл бұрын
Am surprised democrats didn't tax you for the apples.
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think the government is done with new taxing schemes. The apple tax may yet come. :-(
@jaworcyk
@jaworcyk 5 жыл бұрын
This work is dangerous for a child
@herrickkimball
@herrickkimball 5 жыл бұрын
Bernard z Clairvaux The child was instructed about how to perform the task safely, then he was watched the whole time by an adult, standing 3 feet away. The only significant danger was that he would put a hand too far into the disposal. If you watch carefully you will see that he is very conscious about not putting his fingers into the disposal. This is an intelligent child. He would have to put his hand 3 inches down into the disposal to be harmed in any way. Bearing all of that in mind, The child was in no danger. Thanks for the comment.
@tylerhall6455
@tylerhall6455 6 жыл бұрын
Thumbs Down cuz I was sick of the stupid music he was playing.
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