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Who are the SONS OF GOD in Genesis 6? | In-depth textual analysis | Bible study

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@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 2 жыл бұрын
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@crisde2822
@crisde2822 Жыл бұрын
You are preaching this out of context taken by bits and pieces. Read the ENTIRE BOOK CAREFULLY AND ASK FOR DECERNMENT! They are fallen angels. That's why God says Noah was perfect in his generations l( genealogy). The sons of God are the fallen angels. That is why God flooded the world and only saved Noah and his family. Reread it.
@crisde2822
@crisde2822 Жыл бұрын
@@lisachambers3683 nope. Reread it.
@diaskent829
@diaskent829 6 ай бұрын
So, who are the sons of God in 1 John 3 v 1, 2
@bobthomas1536
@bobthomas1536 5 ай бұрын
@@diaskent829 it doesn’t say sons of God it’s says children of God. It’s ambiguous. It’s a general statement.
@lartiga
@lartiga 4 ай бұрын
This is a better interpretation from a professor at a christian seminar: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7Gke9qUmNOxiWw.htmlsi=vlnABmyebcPw5cZj
@Matthew209100New
@Matthew209100New Жыл бұрын
the "Sons of God" are mentioned in the book of Job 1:6 and they are seen as heavenly beings in the verse
@larrymoore2571
@larrymoore2571 11 ай бұрын
@Matthew209100New Hi Matthew, why do you believe these are heavenly beings in Job 1? ~ Job 1: 3-5; When the days of feasting had completed their cycle, Job would send and CONSECRATE them (Job's sons), rising up early in the morning and offering burnt offerings according to the number of them all; for Job said, “Perhaps my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.” Thus, Job did continually. Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. The LORD said to Satan, “From where do you come?” Then Satan answered the LORD and said, “From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it.” (Summary) ~ Job and his sons (Godly men 'sons of God') are 'CONSECRATED', presenting themselves before God with ‘BURNT’ offerings (sin offerings for sanctification, but burnt offerings are complete submission to God). Satan was among them on earth. God asked Satan and he said he was on earth. The next four verses Satan describes Job’s hedge of protection, his blessings and riches etc. Satan has been there with Job. ~ This isn't angels presenting themselves to God in heaven, this is Job on earth, with his sons called ‘sons of God’. Consecrate: to induct a person into permanent office with a religious rite i.e., to ordain the office of Bishop. To make or declare sacred, to devote irrevocably to the worship of God by a solemn ceremony. God Bless and Look UP
@alltimeislikethepresent
@alltimeislikethepresent 8 ай бұрын
You wrote: _"the "Sons of God" are mentioned in the book of Job 1:6 and they are seen as heavenly beings in the verse"_ By writing that, you show that you have never read the book of Job, and that you have no clue about what you're saying.
@Matthew209100New
@Matthew209100New 8 ай бұрын
​@@alltimeislikethepresent They don't call them "heavenly beings" in Job, but from the evidence of them being in Gods presence they would have to be. Exodus 33:20; But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”
@larrymoore2571
@larrymoore2571 8 ай бұрын
@@Matthew209100New Hi Matthew, Godly people 'present themselves before the Lord' all the time, it does not require one to be in heaven, remember God is OMNIPRESENT. ~ 1 Samuel 10:19; “But you have today rejected your God, who delivers you from all your calamities and your distresses; yet you have said, ‘No, but set a king over us!’ Now therefore, 'PRESENT YOURSELVES BEFORE THE LORD' by your tribes and by your clans.” ~ Joshua 24:1; Then Joshua gathered all the tribes of Israel to Shechem and called for the elders of Israel and for their heads and their judges and their officers; and they 'PRESENTED THEMSELVES BEFORE GOD'. ~ Daniel 9:20; "Now while I was speaking and praying, and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my supplication 'BEFORE THE LORD' my God in behalf of the holy mountain of my God," Best wishes and God Bless
@alltimeislikethepresent
@alltimeislikethepresent 8 ай бұрын
@@Matthew209100New _"They don't call them "heavenly beings" in Job, but from the evidence of them being in Gods presence they would have to be."_ What do you mean by "being in God's presence"? _"Exodus 33:20; But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”"_ Where does the book of Job say anything about the sons of God seeing God's face?
@Alfaronico
@Alfaronico 10 ай бұрын
How are we to handle Job 1:6, 2:1 and 38:7? The use of sons of God here are clearly about angels? Also, how would we then determine the origin of the nephilim or ‘giants’?
@status8477
@status8477 2 ай бұрын
Are the Sons of God some celestial type of being? I would say absolutely! I believe conclusively assuming/interpreting they are angels limits God. Going with interpretation, nowhere in Job does it say the Sons of God were angels. So we still need to go looking before we settle on that. Satan stood in for Adam having defeated him and turned Adam mortal in contrast to his pre-sin-made-in-the-image-of-God. That seems to be something most agree with. If Adam was the rightful son of God. If would make sense that the others could be the first created Steward of God's creations on their own planets. What about 38:7? Should we assume Earth was the first planet created, God probably did not stop creating since before Adam up to Job. Job mentions the Sons of God shouting for joy. I'm going to assume that the punctuation is correct and that this was indeed during the creation of the earth rather than two separate events like the many events God shared declaring His glory. So maybe they are in fact angels?? Or….. As MT1016SheepAmongWolves brought my attention to Hebrews 1. It is (sadly to some) likely that the angels were never referred to as sons of God. Then where in the universe did these other “first created beings” come from?! Maybe time is indeed variable throughout space. Or maybe God might bless us with that answer here or when we get to heaven. I clearly do not have a definitive answer and even if I did, why would you accept it instead of arguing with it considering the video makes a better argument than I do and yet you found something you didn't find an answer for.
@carriecarter08
@carriecarter08 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is the best explanation I’ve heard for these verses. I’ve watched quite a few videos and read commentary about this but never felt like the interpretation was based on the context of the Bible. I think many people hold to the idea that the Sons of God were angels to explain why there were giants in those days. But Jesus said that in heaven we’d be like the angels that don’t marry. So I’ve always thought it was illogical to think this passage indicates angels having children with people. I really enjoy your videos and always get new insights into to the text that I hadn’t seen before. Thank you!
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Glad the video was helpful. :) The giants are part of a "human greatness" theme in these verses that culminates in God's observation that their wickedness was great. In case you're interested, I've written more on this here: fascinatedbytheword.wordpress.com/2015/10/26/true-greatness-part-1
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 Жыл бұрын
@@MasterpieceBible Nice! I like what you're getting at here and will be checking out that link.
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 Жыл бұрын
@@MasterpieceBible I'm curious why the Sethite view wasn't proclaimed until Augustine? Any insight on that?
@zeke9067
@zeke9067 Жыл бұрын
@Carrie Carter the angles of HEAVEN do not marry. So yes that would sound illogical, but these angles were no longer apart of Heaven nor cared about the will of the Father. @Masterpiece Bible did a tremendous job with this video and explanation, but there are a few sources in other areas of the Bible not talked about here. Not even trying to change anyone’s mind or come off as an attack, just wanted to share my thoughts! God bless ma’am!
@magistradox39
@magistradox39 Жыл бұрын
​@@truthbebold4009 Because the Sethith view is wrong. Sadly the author ignores all passages in the Bible where the Sons of God clearly refer to Angel's. Like in the book of Job.
@pr.marlon
@pr.marlon 2 жыл бұрын
Keep posting these! You give such great explanations and in the process we learn how to better study and interpret the Bible for ourselves. Thank you Chris for this great ministry.
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback and support!
@mrlnsfrt
@mrlnsfrt Жыл бұрын
@@lisachambers3683 I believe that as the Spirit leads Chris and teaches him from the Bible, we benefit from what he is learning. I have no doubt the Spirit is working, as you can probably tell from this channel's content. I agree that spiritual things are spiritually discerned. The Spirit can and does teach us as we study the Bible. In my personal experience with the Bible, I find that when I apply some of the principles I have been learning from this channel I can reach new depths in my study of God's word. What I learned from Chris does not take away from my personal study of the Bible but rather enhances it. That said I agree that we should always pray for the Holy Spirit to guide us when we read the Bible.
@GodCalledDalAnswered
@GodCalledDalAnswered 11 ай бұрын
Wow. I knew we didn’t need the book of Enoch, the Bible is all we need! You blew my mind brother!! God bless you and your channel. Thank you.
@stanbrown4757
@stanbrown4757 10 ай бұрын
You are probably right but there is one thing that I need clarification about. Who are these angels who didn't keep their position of authority in Jude 1:6?
@brianneovers776
@brianneovers776 9 ай бұрын
And why does Jude 1:6 quote Enoch almost word for word .. Enoch fills in so much of what the Bible is missing
@bobthomas1536
@bobthomas1536 4 ай бұрын
The problem with this master class it’s not addressing the elephant in the room. The Bene Elohim, Sons of God. When the Sons of God passage was put into Genesis 6 by Moses, he already had context for Sons of God from the book of Job. Job predates Moses and some believe he was the author. In Job 38 it clearly tells one who the sons of God were. “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding. Who fixed its measurements? Surely you know! Or who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its foundations set, or who laid its cornerstone, While the morning stars sang together and all the SONS OF GOD shouted for joy? It clearly states that the Sons of God were in heaven at creation. So were the morning stars, angels. (Rev 12:4 angels are stars) It doesn’t call the Sons of God angels, it’s two separate groups and we know man was not even created yet. In Gen 6 Moses figured the reader already knew who the verse was talking about. You can’t read Genesis 4 and 5 into 6 without dealing with the Term Sons of God and the Nephilim. The Nephilim we know who they were because of Numbers. They were giants, they were different than regular men but were men. They were ALL to be destroyed though. Moses, the author again figured everyone knew what he was talking about when inserting Nephilim in verse 6. That is the context for the whole verse, Moses assumed the readers knew what he was talking about. The genealogy.verses before 6 simply show the line of Christ, that’s its purpose. Both 4 and 5 have a flow but when one gets to 6 it upends the previous verses. Something different happened that would lead to the flood. If it was Cain mixing with Seth there Wasent any prohibition with mixing clans anywhere in Gen pre flood. The Bible never says that. It’s not even implied. As a matter of fact Cain had to have had a wife from Adam or Seth. The lines mixed then. See the problem with the master class interpretation. I kept on seeing that angels don’t procreate? other than Jesus saying in Heaven we will be like angels not marrying, there isn’t any other verse that says that and Jesus wasent discussing angles but human marriage. It also doesn’t say what the state of FALLEN angels are like. Jude and Petter explain Jude 1:6 “ And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day”. Peter 2:4 God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered theminto chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment” Both Petter and Jude figured their readers knew what they were talking about because they were discussing the same thing and that was Gen 6. Where else in the Bible do we have Heavenly creatures leaving there position or place. Needless to say the Bible never Says the Sons of God are Angels. The word Angels simply mean messengers. It became a generic term. It doesn’t tell you what kind of creature it is. Angels can appear as normal men that eat, walk, talk and have body mass. They look just like men. Any heavenly creature can be a messenger but not all creatures are sons of God. Scripture is clear Sons of God are heavenly beings that came down and had relations with the “ DAUGHTERS OF MEN”. not daughters of Cain or Seth but men which is both. Something happened during this period that caused the flood, it wasn’t Cain mixing with Seth it was spiritual. Just a thought, the only place that makes mixing a problem, until Moses era, was in the Garden when God put enmity between the Serpent seed( it has seed) and the woman’s. ( line of Christ) Why did God make the distinction? The narrative seems as though the Sons of God corrupted the human line to Christ hopping to stop his birth. So God destroyed the bad seed during the flood. Moses though says the Nephilim were there after the flood he knows this because he was fighting them. They were to be destroyed, completely. Why them, the nephilim and the Nephilim ancestors? Because they were tall? No, because they carried the seed of something evil, and it wasn’t Cain. At the time of David killing a giant could make or break one’s kingship, Saul was afraid of Goliath because he was unreal and he was big. But it wasn’t cartoonish like some imply. The Nephilim were different creatures and goliath was an ancestor of that line. I feel all the information above makes more sense of Genesis 6.
@seloheist
@seloheist 3 ай бұрын
@@stanbrown4757exactly
@johnjohn-hj3bl
@johnjohn-hj3bl Ай бұрын
very correct, the spooky stuff is pagan
@pastorbarnett3049
@pastorbarnett3049 9 ай бұрын
Right on brother. I’ve been teaching the same thing in my church for years. At one point I even read the whole book of Enoch just to see what it had to say, but clearly the book of Enoch is nothing but Jewish mythology. And if the sons of God were angels, we would expect God to judge the angels as well as man in Genesis 6. In fact, that’s what God did in Genesis, chapter 3, when Satan tempted Eve to sin. The fact that nominal believers living in sin brought judgment should be a warning to the world today. Thanks for putting this post out.
@webocoli
@webocoli Жыл бұрын
Amen! Thanks - so refreshing - no hocus-pokus! Just plain reading and comparing scripture with scripture . That nailed it!
@soyjosemejias4379
@soyjosemejias4379 9 ай бұрын
This is bu far THE best explanation to these verses to me. Thank you! I struggled with the possible idea that "fallen angels" slept with human woman and such, I couldn't wrap my mind around that. So, this makes MUCH more sense. Thank you.
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 9 ай бұрын
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful.
@fabiennemitchell2371
@fabiennemitchell2371 3 ай бұрын
​@@MasterpieceBible what about what many have stated, and experienced, regarding incubus and succubus?
@charliethompson5813
@charliethompson5813 2 ай бұрын
Sorry, but his expectation is incorrect. Please keep studying and praying. God will reveal the truth to you
@educational4434
@educational4434 2 ай бұрын
It was fallen angels sleeping with human women. Angel is not a description of biology, it's a job description that can apply to any extraterrestrial being, which is exactly what angels are. Angel as a term is vague. Prior to the creation of mankind, heavenly beings existed. That means that they were not from Earth. And any being not from Earth is automatically an extraterrestrial because they are not from the terrestrial. So, the pre-ademic races of extraterrestrials, which we refer to by their job title of angel, have physical form. This is how when angelic beings, or extraterrestrials, visited Lot in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, they ate and drank with him. You can only eat and drink if you have a physical body. They also looked like men. And if you have a physical body in the form of a man you must be able to pee, etc. And if you can pee, then you have male anatomy. And if you have mail anatomy, it is possible you can be with a human woman, particularly when you look like a man. And as is written about the serpent (a form of angelic being), he has seed and offspring. So angelic beings have the capability, at least in some cases, of having seed. This video is misleading you 100%.
@lizzardlife
@lizzardlife Жыл бұрын
This explanation speaks true to me. I've heard lots of other possibilities but none feel right, this feels correct. I'll have to pray on it. Thanks for this video.
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful. What matters in the end is which explanation is actually supported by the text.
@sharonangela1835
@sharonangela1835 Жыл бұрын
It's 12.00 AM and I'm seriously watching your video. I'm glad I found it. God bless you for giving such a wonderful explanation.
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that!
@dracon5244
@dracon5244 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Like all of us, I had heard all kinds of speculation about this strange chapter 6. Your view is the simplest, clearest and most revealing of all of them, the others seem like science fiction fantasies in comparison. Congratulations.
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, I do believe this is what makes the most sense in that particular context.
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 Жыл бұрын
It's unfortunate that men like Michael Heiser have attracted so many followers to this sci-fi version of God's word. He taught there were like four or five rebellions of the supernatural kind. Apparently they are extremely susceptible to rebelling. There might be more of them rebelling as we speak. Better hide your wife and daughters.
@user-uq9ll3ys3k
@user-uq9ll3ys3k Жыл бұрын
This subject always worried me.. but this explanation is both logical and rational and puts a new prospective to my belief system. Thanks you.
@JocobsComments
@JocobsComments 8 ай бұрын
I agree. Always thought it was angels but it did not make sense. This at least is more logical.
@BrianTHOMAS-ei8fu
@BrianTHOMAS-ei8fu 5 ай бұрын
Best and most logical explanation of that text. Some would make it more sensational but we want truth. Thank you
@KOYARTOS
@KOYARTOS Жыл бұрын
First I watched this video and then the video by Inspiring Philosophy on the the same subject. I was reminded of the truth of Proverbs 18:17 "In a lawsuit the first to speak seems right, until someone comes forward and cross-examines."
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 4 ай бұрын
Well I watched IP and Michael Heiser first and then I watched this video, so obviously this one is the Truth
@user-np7fk4lq1h
@user-np7fk4lq1h 5 ай бұрын
This is the best explanation thus far.
@amyparker4455
@amyparker4455 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great explanation. Blessings 🙌🏾
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@HoyAshley-ik5tk
@HoyAshley-ik5tk 5 ай бұрын
When someone truly studies it shows. Great job!!!
@PedroCastillo-yj7tq
@PedroCastillo-yj7tq 2 ай бұрын
Yep, another one just like him.
@ebentechstudio
@ebentechstudio 5 ай бұрын
I think the "sons of God" were humans beings who were faithful to God and God counted on them to live for Him but they disappointed Him by doing what the wicked people on earth did and also by going into them by marrying them without the concerns of God. For example, Noah could also be part of the sons of God who lived differently to please God other than following the stepss of the rest of humans on earth. God had expected his faithful ones who He called His sons to have lived to please Him but did not and rather saw the beatutiful daughter of men, where men here refers to the wicked humans on earth. So in order to distincquish between the humans who please God and the ones who did not, the word "sons of God" was used. For example, both christians and non-christians are all men created by God but the distinction comes in when christians call themselves sons of God because they have come to believe in Jesus and have been born again by the Holy Spirit.
@biblebasics101
@biblebasics101 Жыл бұрын
Bravo! This is how you properly exegete a text. The law of biogenesis debunks angels mating with humans and producing offspring.
@charliedeannjohnson8864
@charliedeannjohnson8864 Жыл бұрын
Genesis 4 and 5 were the missing links to Genesis 6 that we needed here. Context is everything and these 2 verses explain two different geneologies mixing in Genesis 6. I cant believe how twisted people make Genesis 6 out to be with Angels. Angels are spirits not flesh and bone. Malachi 3:1 prophesies a messenger in John the Baptist who was born of flesh and bone from a (woman). To say Genesis 19:1 were Angels from heaven in the flesh is a farce. Messengers (Angels) are helpers and appear in scripture as messengers but messengers in the flesh are men messengers. There are other verses that prove men born of a woman were messengers in numerous places and not Angels. Great vid! Shalom!
@ChristinewithaC
@ChristinewithaC Жыл бұрын
Angels can take on human form, like the ones who rescue Lot. The men of Sodom told Lot to bring them out so they could have sex with them. Of course, their plan was thwarted, but it was a possibility.
@alisonjones4881
@alisonjones4881 5 ай бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER SO CLEARLY - AND HOW IT ALL FALLS INTO PLACE. I also believe Jesus holds the key to understanding the text about the 'sons of God' marrying the daughters of men. In John's Gospel chapter 10 verses 34 to 36 (when the Jews threatened to stone Jesus for claiming to be God) ... " Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your law, 'I have said you are gods'? ...... and goes on to say - "IF HE CALLED THEM 'GODS' TO WHOM THE WORD OF GOD CAME - AND THE SCRIPTURE CANNOT BE BROKEN - what about the one whom the Father set apart on His very own and sent into the world ?" To my mind this absolutely clarifies the whole subject, and I thank God that all we need to know is hidden in His Word.
@LocoMenteClaraOne
@LocoMenteClaraOne 2 ай бұрын
THIS is a perfect example of using CORRECT Biblical exegesis!!! Gracias hermano
@gmc8099
@gmc8099 9 ай бұрын
Thank you this is exactly the way God showed it to me and I have had many debates with people over the years that believed that the fallen angels and humans had offspring and it was the line of Seth crossing with the line of cain thank you
@TheExastrologer
@TheExastrologer 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent exegesis, especially the parallel with the language of Gen. 3 when Eve sees that the fruit is good and takes it.
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🙂
@douglasquenzer9361
@douglasquenzer9361 5 ай бұрын
This also parallels what happens to Solomon when he took wives from foreign lands. It leads to his downfall.
@JamesSmith-ds9yc
@JamesSmith-ds9yc 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Great point. This should be an example people use. Not Angels having sex with humans.
@michaelguidera1876
@michaelguidera1876 2 ай бұрын
The other context being fallen angels actually makes more sense considering the sons of God mentioned in Job 1 and Job 37 obviously represents spiritual beings. Also the depravity brought in by this unholy union was passed on through the giants that played a major part in leading the nations away from Yahweh to follow the other gods. Babylon was founded and influenced by these nephelim. They introduced brutality into human society and used their power and superiority to deceive the people that lived under their rule. The angels chained in the underworld are these.angels.that left this normal.aboad.
@traceyburbridge1596
@traceyburbridge1596 Ай бұрын
Yes! Yes! Yes! Finally somebody here gets it!
@williamgarcia9411
@williamgarcia9411 Ай бұрын
I want to point out the Adam is called the "son of God" in Luke 3:38 which that the Genealogy of Adam is the godly line called the "sons of God" as you point in Matthew 5:9 and Romans 8:14.
@jackcarraway4707
@jackcarraway4707 Жыл бұрын
The biggest flaw I see with the sons of God just being wicked powerful rulers or Cain's evil line is what was the point in the Flood when similar people such as Nimrod, Og and Goliath walked the Earth afterwards. Clearly there's something more about this product of the sons of God and daughters of men that caused God to commence the Flood.
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible Жыл бұрын
Well, if we stick to the text, the reason God sent the Flood was because the wickedness of mankind on the earth had become great and every intent of the thought of their hearts was only evil continually. The issue is the exceeding wickedness of mankind (the same word that's used prior to Gen 6 to designate regular human beings). Of course there were very evil people after the flood as well (and God also held them accountable), but the situation before the flood was so bad that only eight people were willing to go into the ark. Basically evil had overtaken the world almost entirely (which suggests that the Flood was not just an act of justice but also one of mercy that secured the future of mankind). I don't see that kind of situation after the Flood - locally, yes, but not worldwide.
@ocho552
@ocho552 11 ай бұрын
Job 38:7 indicates that the “sons of God” are angelic beings “Whereupon were the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner-stone thereof, When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?” ‭‭Job‬ ‭38‬:‭6‬-‭7‬ ‭
@ocho552
@ocho552 11 ай бұрын
The apostle Peter also says “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;” ‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2‬:‭4‬ ‭ He was talking about the angelic beings in Genesis 6
@ocho552
@ocho552 4 ай бұрын
@@SeekingAlfalfa in this case he’s talking about angelic beings , context my friend
@ocho552
@ocho552 4 ай бұрын
@@SeekingAlfalfaAgain, take in context in the 2nd letter Peter wrote. Both in Genesis 6:1 and and Job 1:6 refer to sons of God as angelic beings. So maybe you should take your own advice.
@emmanuelmakoba6085
@emmanuelmakoba6085 9 ай бұрын
Wow.... that's incredible. Thank you, man 🙏🏽
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 9 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@travishunt8999
@travishunt8999 3 ай бұрын
If they were simply human then why aren’t their offspring simply human? Apologies if you mentioned the Nephilim but it seems you avoided that all together.
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 3 ай бұрын
I don't see any clear indication in the text that they were not human. "Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown" sounds like humans to me. Same with Num 13:33.
@travishunt8999
@travishunt8999 3 ай бұрын
@@MasterpieceBible Right, because if you combined any other humans on the planet you wouldn't get "mighty men" offspring. Only combining "good" boys and "bad" girls allows for offspring so mighty they have a special name for them... It just doesn't make any since whatsoever to point out their children being ANY different than any others if they were mere humans.
@smittybob100
@smittybob100 3 ай бұрын
The genesis 6 passage says “bene Elohim” it means angelic beings. The passages he said about “sons of god” use completely different words. People need to study the word “Elohim”
@bobthomas1536
@bobthomas1536 3 ай бұрын
@@MasterpieceBible The Context of Sons of God is not chapter 4 and 5 but Job 1:6 and and 38:7. Both verses clearly use the term Sons of God and they are with God. Verse 38:7 clearly shows they were there before creation. Most scholars believe Moses is the main writer of Genesis and they believe Job is an older or contemporary book during Moses time. He knew the term Sons of God and he knew his audience knew it.
@bobthomas1536
@bobthomas1536 3 ай бұрын
@@MasterpieceBible . Genesis says the Nephilim were on the earth in those days. So in other words they weren’t around until then. Where did they come from, what caused them? It’s a clear distinction between Nephilim and ordinary men. They were men, but were not ordinary The Nephilim came about because the sons of God went into the daughters of men. Once again, there is a clear distinction between sons of God and daughters of men. The daughters of men are the daughters of all men. That includes Cain and Seth. One more thing, you can’t use the new Testament as context for the sons of God. The writer of Genesis, Moses did not have the New Testament, he probably did know about the book of Job. The book was around then. Also, Paul and Jesus say the sons of God will be revealed at the resurrection Luke 20: 34 and Roman’s 8:18. Men did not have the opportunity to be sons of God or adopted sons until Christ so the new testament cannot be used as context for Gen 6. Once again Job is the context.
@olweyokennedy266
@olweyokennedy266 25 күн бұрын
For sure , he who does the will of God is considered to be the son of God , Noah as the blood line of Seth Adams son , the daughter of his lineage were taken by Cains sons giving rise to generations of perdition full of evil and could be the reason why God decided to destroy the whole creation. Angels can never marry . Thanks for this explanation.
@charliedontsurf334
@charliedontsurf334 6 ай бұрын
So the Sons of God appear elsewhere, and in one case are even called "gods." (Psalm 82:6) Deuteronomy 32:8 says the nations were divided by the number of the Sons of God. Daniel talks about how all the princes (sons of the King) except Michael have turned against the Most High (Daniel 10:21) The Sethite view only comes about because of St. Augustine.
@pedrosotelo5804
@pedrosotelo5804 4 ай бұрын
This is exactly what is wrong with Bible teachers. Total and complete lack of exegetical work. There is a context that is also completely ignored. If you want a deep dive into these passage read the book by Dr Heiser Reversing Hermon. Him and the majority of biblical scholars disagree with the Sethite view as it falls from context with just examining the text in Hebrew as it does not follow English grammar being that these two languages do not have a natural link. Therefore, English interpretation of the Bible needs first Hebrew understanding followed by historical context.
@CranstonSnordd
@CranstonSnordd 5 ай бұрын
This was a helpful video; this is called Perspicuity of the Scripture. You have to use scripture to interpret less clear verses of scripture. When a Bible study leans on an external perspective to understand the Bible (evolution or recent PHD perspectives…) which relies on confusing and non-obvious premises; you’re probably not doing it right.
@rijomathew3310
@rijomathew3310 Жыл бұрын
Sir ur bible study class is amazing and God will blessed u a lot
@jacobmijar2195
@jacobmijar2195 2 жыл бұрын
Hello sir please uploads your video we are always waiting for your video .bcz your explain is from god 💞💞( i am from Nepal love you )
@helenmooraley3329
@helenmooraley3329 7 ай бұрын
Thank you...I was having some trouble reading and understanding the bible but you really helped me
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 7 ай бұрын
Glad to hear that!
@shakeelnayyar5970
@shakeelnayyar5970 3 ай бұрын
Concise and to the point. Thanks sir
@salamatpatras3556
@salamatpatras3556 11 ай бұрын
Superb explanation. I think its enough for thise who believe about strange marriages of human and other creatures.
@whitebird357
@whitebird357 Жыл бұрын
Now that was a Biblical and contextual presentation on the topic. Very good breakdown into the scripture. Very good spiritual application.
@TheSinCityPreacher
@TheSinCityPreacher Жыл бұрын
This doesn’t explain the Nephilim…
@jthomas7904
@jthomas7904 11 ай бұрын
Fallen people? If you are trying to make them into Tall People, which the Old English word for giant didn't mean, you're in error. Furthermore, all those tall people defeated came from the line of two people. When Ham, a son of God, took for himself a wife from the daughters of men. Nimrod, a man of renown and the first king mentioned in the Bible, also came from the same lineage.
@bobthomas1536
@bobthomas1536 5 ай бұрын
@@jthomas7904 seriously? It doesn’t say that. You are trying put the pieces together using you’re tradition. Calvin?
@jthomas7904
@jthomas7904 5 ай бұрын
@bobthomas1536 Lol.... you jump from old English terms to Calvin? Blahahahaha. Calvinism takes scripture out of CONTEXT. Have you tried reading Genesis 6 in CONTEXT? Try starting with Genesis 1 : 1 or at least Genesis 3 : 1. Why even bother with lineage of Cain just 2 more chapters and they're all washed up? What is the difference in Lamech's? Similarities? Why is Seth referred to as a Seed and his lineage starts with God vs Cain called a man. Finally, please tell me where the Word Nephilim comes from. While you are at it how about the Hebrew words for : Angel, Fallen angel, or Demon? But whatever you do! Please, never ever no matter what, compare a word used from 1611 to 2024. That's just crazy, right? Someone may question if you're a Calvinist.
@bobthomas1536
@bobthomas1536 5 ай бұрын
@@jthomas7904 are you? It matters how you wrongly interpret Genesis. So it’s not a jump.
@jthomas7904
@jthomas7904 5 ай бұрын
​@bobthomas1536 The sons of Ham were Cush, Mizraim, Put, and Canaan. 7 The sons of Cush were Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, and Sabtechah; and the sons of Raamah were Sheba and Dedan. 8 Cush begot Nimrod; he began to be a mighty one on the earth. 9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord; therefore it is said, “Like Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.” 10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, Erech, Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. 11 From that land he went to Assyria and built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir, Calah, 12 and Resen between Nineveh and Calah (that is the principal city). 13 Mizraim begot Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuhim, 14 Pathrusim, and Casluhim (from whom came the Philistines and Caphtorim). 15 Canaan begot Sidon his firstborn, and Heth; 16 the Jebusite, the Amorite, and the Girgashite; 17 the Hivite, the Arkite, and the Sinite; 18 the Arvadite, the Zemarite, and the Hamathite. Afterward the families of the Canaanites were dispersed. 19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon as you go toward Gerar, as far as Gaza; then as you go toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha. 20 These were the sons of Ham, according to their families, according to their languages, in their lands and in their nations. Aren't a lot those "ites" the same ones that Joshua conquered entering the promise land? You know.... the "giants".
@lynnMariEisaman6797
@lynnMariEisaman6797 6 ай бұрын
What about Enoch?? That is what this pertains to if you research Enoch. I respect anyone who shares The Bible. I just needed to express that this is pertaining to Enoch. The book that was removed from the Bible.
@michaelwittkopp3379
@michaelwittkopp3379 3 ай бұрын
Hmmm... You've given me something to think about. I'd never looked at it that way. I'd always taken the view; that Elohiym _(term used in Genesis chapter one for God),_ does not always mean God. _(Which it doesn't. It means; "One of authority and with many powers.")_ Not sure if I 100% agree with your summation, your thoughts, but there is something to them, that is logical, and cannot be denied. Just, yours might not be the whole of it. This needs thoughts and prayers. So thank you, for your insightful video. I've subscribed; and gave it a like, because of it.
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate the thoughtful feedback! Let's keep studying and praying for insight. Blessings!
@adejodavid9226
@adejodavid9226 Жыл бұрын
In genesis 6 :1 the bible says when "men began to multiply "... which was natural men then in verse 2 it talked about sons of men( which were supernatural men you see there is a clear distinction in that context between the men and the sons of men. So the sons of God in that contex are supernatural beings that was why they produced giants according to their kind. Let's study scripture in contex and objectively.
@AtreyuKhalil
@AtreyuKhalil Жыл бұрын
How can Spirit body angels have sex with physical human women and reproduce after it’s kind? That’s impossible, a human and and angels body are two separate things and they are two different species of beings.
@GodCalledDalAnswered
@GodCalledDalAnswered 11 ай бұрын
Did you even watch the video? Or is your mind more consumed of supernatural things?
@jvill79
@jvill79 7 ай бұрын
Angels can take on a physical body. The angels that saved lot had a physical body.
@jvill79
@jvill79 7 ай бұрын
@@AtreyuKhalilhow can a woman give birth to a child without having sex with a man?
@larrycamden9485
@larrycamden9485 6 ай бұрын
No where in the Bible do you find evil angels taking on human bodies. Only good angels, sent by God, took on human bodies.
@traceyburbridge1596
@traceyburbridge1596 Ай бұрын
The sons of God are God's divine counsel
@beofgoodcourage2714
@beofgoodcourage2714 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful! Someone finally gets it right. I have had a personal Angel encounter and I know that angels can have masculine or feminine attributes but do not have reproductive abilities. They are spirit messagers to bear messages and minister to those who are to receive salvation. They are in full submission to God and are not to be worshiped.
@rustyshadow7
@rustyshadow7 Ай бұрын
This is a fascinating topic, one we can agree to disagree on without being rude or nasty. Here is what two of my favorite scholars have to say on this topic. The term "sons of God" (Heb. beney' ha- Elohim) is used in the Old Testament of either angels or men who were true believers, committed to the service of God. Passages that refer to angels as beney' ha- Elohim include Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7 Psalms 29:1; 89:6 (89:7 MT). The Masoretic text does not contain this phrase in Deuteronomy 32:43, but a fragment of a Hebrew text found in Qumran cave 4 reads: "Shout joyously O heavens, with Him, and worship Him O sons of God [beney' ha- Elohim] and ascribed to him might, all you sons of the mighty [bênê 'Ēlîm]. Shout joyously, O nations, concerning His people, and accord strength to Him, all you angels of God [malakhey Elohim]." This is considerably more expanded than the received Hebrew text (MT) of this verse, but it may possibly be the original wording. It was probably the passage quoted in Hebrews 1:6--- though Psalm 97:7 may also be the source for that verse. But the occurrences of beney' ha- Elohim referring to men standing in covenant relationship to God are fully as numerous in the Old Testament as those referring to angels (cf. Deut. 14:1; 32:5; Ps. 73:15; Hos. 1:10 [MT=2:10] ---and we believe Gen. 6:2 as well) The reasons for understanding Genesis 6:2 as referring to members of the covenant family, descendants of the line of Seth, are quite compelling. Scripture clearly teaches that angels are spirits, "ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation" (Hebrews 1:14, NIV) While they may on occasion appear in bodily form in the semblance of men, they have no physical bodies and are therefore utterly incapable of carnal relations with women. The rabbinic speculation that angels are referred to in Genesis 6:2 is a curious intrusion of pagan superstition that has no basis at all in the rest of Scripture. The fact that some children of gigantic stature (v.4) resulted from these marriages offers no evidence whatever of angelic paternity. No one claims that the sons of Anak, Goliath and his brothers had any angelic forebears because of their great stature; nor is there any reason to suppose that of the antediluvian giants had supernatural forebears. What Genesis chapter 6:1-2,4 records is the first occurrence of mixed marriage between believers and unbelievers, with a characteristic result of such unions: complete loss of testimony for the Lord and a total surrender of moral standards. In other words, the "sons of God" in this passage were descendants of the godly line of Seth. Instead of remaining true to God and loyal to their spiritual heritage, they allowed themselves to be enticed by the beauty of ungodly women who were "daughters of men"--- that is, of the tradition and example of Cain. The natural result of such marriages was a debasement of nature on the part of the younger generations, until the entire antediluvian civilization sank to the lowest depths of depravity. The Lord saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time" (v.5, NIV). The inevitable result was judgment, the terrible destruction of the Great Flood. Perhaps one last comment regarding angels would be in order here. If we were to concede that spirits could somehow enter into sexual relations with human beings---which they cannot---then they could not even so be fitted in with this passage here. If they were minions of Satan, that is, fallen angels, then they could not have been referred to as "sons of God." Demons of hell would never be so designated in Scripture. Nor could they have been angels of God, since God's angels always live in total obedience to Him and have no other yearning or desire but to do God's will and glorify His name. A sordid involvement with godless young women would therefore be completely out of character for angels as "sons of God." The only viable explanation therefore, is that the sons of God were descendants of the godly line of Seth. Dr. Gleason L. Archer, Jr. Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties pp. 79-80 Some interpreters claim that in the Old Testament the phrase “sons of God” always refers to angels. The phrase is used in Hosea 1:10 to refer to humans, but advocates of the angels view argue that this phrase cannot mean the same thing as it does in Genesis 6 because Hosea used the singular form of the word “God,” El, whereas the writer of Genesis 6 used the plural form, Elohim. The assumption here is that because these passages do not use precisely the same terms, they are not referring to the same thing. This assumption is incorrect, however, because different words are often used to refer to the same thing. The words El and Elohim are frequently used interchangeably in the Old Testament, and there is no doubt that both passages refer to God. It is not the case, therefore, that “sons of God” always refers to angels. Most advocates of the angels view point to Job 1:6 and 2:1 to support their claim that “sons of God” refers to angels. They argue that since it refers to angels in Job, then it also refers to angels in Genesis 6. In this case the assumption is the opposite of the one above; that is, these passages must refer to the same thing simply because they use the same terms. This is not necessarily true, however. Words or phrases often mean different things or are used differently in different contexts. The phrase “Son of Man,” for example, refers to Ezekiel in the book of Ezekiel, but in the Gospels it refers to Jesus. One must demonstrate from the context of the passages in Genesis and Job that “sons of God” means the same thing in both passages and not simply assume this is the case because the words are the same. The passages in Job are also used to argue that “sons of God” refers to fallen angels. There is nothing in these passages, however, that indicates that they are fallen angels. Job 1:6, for example, says, “the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them.”1 Satan was not one of the sons of God, but came in “among them.” In Job, the reference to the “sons of God” does not include fallen angels such as Satan. Additionally, it seems very unlikely that the expression “sons of God” would be used to refer to fallen angels. This argument incorrectly assumes that the two passages are referring to the same thing simply because they use the same terms. Other commentators appeal to Jude 6-7 to support their contention that the “sons of God” were unfallen or heavenly angels who then fell because they had sexual relations with female humans. They argue that Jude compared the prideful fallen angels to the sexually immoral people of Sodom and Gomorrah. The problem with this assertion is that it assumes what it must prove. Proponents of this argument use their interpretation of Genesis 6 to understand Jude, and then use their understanding of Jude to support their interpretation of Genesis 6. This is circular reasoning. The angels view also assumes that angels can have sexual relations with female humans. Bruce Waltke points out, however, “This interpretation…contradicts Jesus’ statement that angels do not marry (Matt. 22:30; Mark 12:25). It is one thing for angels to eat and drink (see Gen. 19:1-3), but quite another to marry and reproduce.”2 Some interpreters respond that Jesus was referring only to the marriage contract and not to the marriage bed, but this makes Jesus’ statement nonsensical in its own context. Jesus was responding to the question about having a marital relation resulting in children, and He clearly denied that heavenly angels can have sexual relations. Other defenders respond that Jesus is referring to angels in heaven, whereas Genesis 6 is referring to fallen angels. The problem with this explanation is that prior to having sexual relations with female humans, these fallen angels must have been unfallen, heavenly angels; but Jesus said heavenly angels could not have sexual relations, and, therefore, they could not have committed the very act that is supposed to have caused them to fall. Furthermore, this view not only assumes that unfallen angels can have sexual relations with female humans but also that it is necessarily sinful. No commentator has attempted to prove this assumption. Dr. Thomas A. Howe Professor of Bible and Biblical Languages, Southern Evangelical Seminary
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing those quotes. Some good points.
@rustyshadow7
@rustyshadow7 Ай бұрын
@@MasterpieceBible Thanks for the video... and channel.
@grandeopera
@grandeopera 4 ай бұрын
Where did the Nephilim come from then? Why did the early Church believe they were angels???
@smittybob100
@smittybob100 3 ай бұрын
The Hebrew for “sons of god” and “daughters of men” are completely different. The “sons of god” term is always related to spiritual beings and the “daughters of men” is referring to humans. The flood story and the Tower of Babel follow right after. These stories of humanity becoming corrupt because of fallen angels runs all throughout the bible and ancient texts. The interpretation in this video is so basic and fails to capture what the Old Testament and New Testament writers believed about giants and the rebellious angels
@elspeth8476
@elspeth8476 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I will be following….
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@davidheaton6206
@davidheaton6206 5 ай бұрын
The angels were punished and are bound in chains and are mentioned in Jude. There is also mention of this in first Peter.
@davidheaton6206
@davidheaton6206 5 ай бұрын
Who were the Sons of Anak?
@davidheaton6206
@davidheaton6206 5 ай бұрын
Who were the watchers?
@ChristinewithaC
@ChristinewithaC Жыл бұрын
If the “sons of God” refers to humans, why would their offspring be referred to as “giants” and “Nephilim”?
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible Жыл бұрын
It really depends on how you define giant. If these were people of exceptional size (as Num 13 seems to suggest) and/or power/reputation (see Gen 6:4 "mighty men", "men of renown") then I don't see why they could not be the offspring of humans.
@ChristinewithaC
@ChristinewithaC Жыл бұрын
@@MasterpieceBible Wow! Thank you! I didn’t really expect a response. I appreciate the work you put into your videos. I agree with you on most things.
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible Жыл бұрын
@@ChristinewithaC Sure, thanks for the feedback!
@larrymoore2571
@larrymoore2571 11 ай бұрын
@christinewithac512; Hi Christine remember 'Nephilim' can also be defined as 'Fallen Ones'. ~ Psalm 53:2-3; “God looks down from heaven on the children of man to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God. They have all ‘FALLEN AWAY’; together they have become corrupt; there is none who does good, not even one.” The terms 'Mighty Men' and 'Men of Renown' (Hebrew: Giborim and Sem) the same words that describes David's warriors, they were amazing fighting men, but still just men. God is perfectly capable of creating very large people like Goliath, and famous powerful mighty men like Samson, for His glory and for the good of His people... no angels are required. God will not share His glory with false gods. What fellowship has light with darkness. Here is one of many Bible verses that is a warning to God's people not to marry pagan idolators: ~ Deuteronomy 7:3-4; “Furthermore, you shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughters to their sons, nor shall you take their daughters for your sons. “For they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods; then the anger of the LORD will be kindled against you and He will quickly destroy you." God Bless and Look UP... y(our) redemption is near
@Duck-xc1sy
@Duck-xc1sy Ай бұрын
Correct
@aishanusoul
@aishanusoul 6 ай бұрын
Soooo good ❤
@kampambabowa5398
@kampambabowa5398 11 ай бұрын
So clear & simple!..
@anamargaritasuarez3072
@anamargaritasuarez3072 Жыл бұрын
Great!!
@DonaldSeymourjr
@DonaldSeymourjr 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@gbakasefanu2564
@gbakasefanu2564 4 ай бұрын
Great exposition! More grace to carry on!
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, appreciate it!
@MarkVergini
@MarkVergini 3 ай бұрын
So your saying regular human being built pyramids and where are all the heavy equipment, our society today can't even constuct such structures,ARCH ANGELS ARE POWERFUL, ONE CAN SLEIGH 30 THOUSAND MEN , AND WHEN A FALLEN ANGEL APPROACHED YAHWEH, BEFORE ( JOB 1-2 ) SONS OF GOD IS SLANG FOR ANGELS
@MarkVergini
@MarkVergini 3 ай бұрын
Anakiem , OG , GOLIATH..AS THE MUTATION DIED OFF .. A TAINTING FROM ARCH ANGELS IN REBLLION , THE PROFF IS PAGAN NATIONS WORSHIPED THESE REBELLIOUS ANGELS ...
@MarkVergini
@MarkVergini 3 ай бұрын
Read your bible in context of the entirity , you may know GOSPEL, you may know about NOAH , BUT FROM BEGINNING UNTIL CHRIST RETURNS , YOUR INTERPRETATION IS A DUMBED DOWN VERSION BECAUSE OF THE AMBIGUITY OF ISSUE , NONETHELESS..CONNECT THE DOTS
@rumplestiltskin5036
@rumplestiltskin5036 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for being able to rightly divide the Word of God. It never ceases to amaze me how many fails to follow a simple story line. Astonishing!!!!!
@aishanusoul
@aishanusoul 6 ай бұрын
It also makes sense because i think I recall there are parts of the bible that say something about angels not able to be given in marriage
@trojenell
@trojenell 6 ай бұрын
Makes no sense. How do men from Seth genes and women create giants? Sons of God in the book of JOB are clearly some type of angelic being who is able to go before The Most High and Satan was among them. In Ezekiel, the Angel called him son of man. Mark 2:10 refers to Jesus as Son of man born from Adam, a man. So why not just call them sons of men? Why even make a distinction at all if they were both just men and women? Beause there were gaints in those days before and after the flood, trying to get rid of them. Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate but left their own habitation. Which lets you know they had the ability to leave heaven and they did.
@amandajohnson1645
@amandajohnson1645 6 ай бұрын
This is the absolute truth! My pastor taught us this , & Like the teacher said why would God punish man for what fallen angels did ?Also angels can’t reproduce they don’t have reproductive systems b/c they’re spiritual beings, great teaching sir !
@benanders4412
@benanders4412 3 ай бұрын
Angels can take human form. Hebrews 13:2
@candicevega719
@candicevega719 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I spoke to God and he said it was ridiculous to even think angels were having sex with humans!
@wewuzwolves4428
@wewuzwolves4428 2 жыл бұрын
How did the giants and "mighty men of renown" (sounds like the Greek titans) come about? Was the line of Seth and the line of Cain so genetically incompatible that the offspring would grow into literal giants and titans?
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question! The text does not clearly specify the origin of the giants. It simply says that they were on the earth in those days and (possibly) that they were mighty men and men of renown (if "these" in v 4 is referring back to the giants). They are part of a theme of human greatness that begins in v 1 and climaxes in v 5 with God's assessment that the wickedness of man was great.
@wtpiep82
@wtpiep82 Жыл бұрын
If God regretting making mankind (in His image) did He ever state that he regretted making the serpent/Devil/Satan?
@smittybob100
@smittybob100 3 ай бұрын
This passage is clearly talking about fallen angels creating giants. There’s lots of supporting passages throughout the bible. The writers of these biblical books would have viewed the world this way.
@bobthomas1536
@bobthomas1536 3 ай бұрын
@@MasterpieceBible The problem is Moses the Author of Genesis clearly is calling them Giants. They become Men of renown because of their strength and they were respected as warriors. Num clearly calls the Nephilim giants. Whether they were in the towns or not the spies called them Nephilim and that they were huge in stature , not important men. Moses was also the author of numbers. He clearly gives the definition of Nephilim from Gen 6 in Numbers.
@malarkey_detected
@malarkey_detected Ай бұрын
If the giants were the exclusive result of inbreeding between angels and women then why does the Septuagint use the same word for the nephilim & mighty men (γίγαντες - giants) in Genesis 6 as it does to describe Nimrod (γίγας - giant) in Genesis 10? We know that Nimrod was not fathered by an angel because he was the great grandson of Noah. Genesis 10:8-9 Cush was the father of Nimrod, who began to be a mighty one on the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD; so it is said, “Like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the LORD.”
@PPWWSS
@PPWWSS 7 ай бұрын
Amazing
@barend4803
@barend4803 Жыл бұрын
Excellent !
@jeffjackson9936
@jeffjackson9936 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps I don't understand. Noah is not referenced in Genesis Ch 4 vs. 1:6 Noah was not talked about in the Bible until Genesis 5:29
@johancoetzee589
@johancoetzee589 Жыл бұрын
Thanks ...first person I agree with ...non of the farfetch fallen angel stereotypes. Hallelujah flesh and blood can't reveal it to you ...
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible Жыл бұрын
Happy to help
@joshwilliams3939
@joshwilliams3939 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree!!! You got it my friend
@mukeshscott3538
@mukeshscott3538 10 ай бұрын
Nice Praise the Lord
@kenyareads6918
@kenyareads6918 6 ай бұрын
I think that analyzing this question shows why we have to be very careful about "academic" translations of the Bible from Hebrew. Many Bible translators have been accused, for example, of changing the translation of "virgin' to "young lady" to water down the power of the message of Christ's birth. That even though the context of the story of Mary is that she had never had relations with a man before she gave birth to Jesus. Getting back to this question of the interpretation of "sons of God", depending on which Bible translation you use, Job 1:6 is translated as either "sons of God" or "angels". To the credit of the NIV, it has a footnote that states that the original Hebrew word directly translates to, "sons of God". King James Version leaves Job 1:6 as, "sons of God". The "sons of God" appeared before God, and Satan went with them. Combining this with Genesis 6, I suggest that it makes more sense to infer that the sons of God were heavenly beings with earthly bodies. Cain was human. Intermarriages between humans don't result in giants. The offspring of the sons of God and daughters of men resulted in giant offspring. The descendants of whom included Goliath. So marrying a daughter of Cain, if the daughter acknowledged and gave reverence to God, was not necessarily a sin. Many children acknowledge the mistakes of their parents, and do not necessarily do what their parents did. The Bible does not talk much about ladies. So there is no way of knowing if all the wives of Noah and his sons were only of the bloodline of just Abel and Seth, with no contribution from Cain. Thus, my opinion is that, "sons of God" are heavenly beings with earthly bodies. They were in the world before the flood, and also afterward.
@bbl5499
@bbl5499 3 ай бұрын
You're right. Angels do take human appearance and attributes as can be read in whole Genesis 19, "Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares" We can say Hebrews 13:2 KJV testifies to this Genesis encounter, but it is more than likely refering to the story of Tobit, who was fully unaware of the "heavenly" nature of his host, angel Raphael, unlike Abraham, Lot and the evil population who knew who the "men" were in Genesis. And in all those "bodily" incursions, free will do apply for all creation. And Genesis 6 is unambiguous about who did what. 1 Enoch gives more details about it, and also their subsequent judgement, 2 Peter and Jude refers to angels being in chains of darkness for going agaisnt their order. Drawing clearly from Enoch. As for me, i used to trust these types of scholars, like hey they should know better, but i realised they're gate keepers, knowingly or not, keeping folks from receiving the whole Truth, as written somewhere in Mathew 23 i think. Everything becomes clear once you start asking yourself "what writings were Peter, Jude, Hebrews, Marc and other epistle writers using/preaching out of?" 1. Enoch, Jubilees, 2. Esdras, Tobit are clearly among them, full of concepts and principles quoted by them and Jesus Himself! Some say Jesus said angels mary not, and don't multiply. It's true of course, they're not meant to, as long as they are in heaven in they're angelic form. But once they take a bodily appearance, they also inherit the characteristics, and can experience what that body is submitted to here on earth. That's the context of Genesis 6.
@pabloestabla3707
@pabloestabla3707 Жыл бұрын
I Don’t see “ Sons of God” used in scripture before chapter 6..
@larrymoore2571
@larrymoore2571 Жыл бұрын
Romans 8:14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons and daughters of God. Genesis 4:26 To Seth also a son was born; and he named him Enosh. Then people began to call upon the name of the LORD. Chapter 5 genealogies include Enoch that walked with God and he was not found, for God took him. The same blood line includes Methuselah oldest recorded human @ 969 years and down to Noah the last faithful man before the flood. Genesis 6 talks of the fall from the grace of God by once loyal followers of God (sons of God) to paganism. Just like Solomon, Samson and so many others the lust of the eyes (beautiful idolatrous women), lust of the flesh, and boastful pride of life. Here are some examples of this repeated scenario: ~ Deuteronomy 7:3-4; Furthermore, you shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughters to their sons, nor shall you take their daughters for your sons. For they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods; Then the anger of the Lord will be kindled against you, and He will quickly destroy you. ~ Nehemiah 13:25; You are not to give your daughters in marriage to their sons, nor are you to take their daughters in marriage for your sons or for yourselves. ~ Exodus 34:16; ...and you take some of his daughters for your sons and his daughters play the harlot with their gods, and his daughters would play the prostitute with their gods and cause your sons also to play the prostitute with their gods. ~ Joshua 23:12&16; ...and intermarry with them so that you associate with them and they with you & then the anger of the Lord will burn against you, and you shall perish quickly from off the good land which He has given you. ~ 1 Kings 11:2; ...& you shall not associate with them, neither shall they associate with you for they will surely turn your heart away after their gods. Solomon held fast to these in love. ~ Ezra 9:14; ...shall we again break thy commandments and intermarry with the peoples who commit these abominations? Would You not be angry with us to the point of destruction, until there is no remnant nor any who escape? ~ 1 Kings 11:4; For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father.
@schalkvanheerden315
@schalkvanheerden315 Ай бұрын
Nope. But kudos for trying to resolve the mystery with a literary approach - I haven't seen that done before.
@jonasbauer3942
@jonasbauer3942 Ай бұрын
"some people have entertained angels without knowing it". The fallen ones could certainly not not have mated with women, or could they?
@WinstonKnights
@WinstonKnights 2 ай бұрын
Did you read the book of Enoch?
@JeffKC58
@JeffKC58 2 ай бұрын
Go the book of Job and find out who "sons of God" are. How do giants come from regular men?
@nicoleodeh1985
@nicoleodeh1985 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@rogerweir1772
@rogerweir1772 6 ай бұрын
Genesis 24:3 And I will make thee swear by the LORD, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell: Exodus 34:16 And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.
@_mcknight
@_mcknight 11 ай бұрын
Mmmmm, nah I still think the 'sons of God' had to be spiritual beings. They are also mentioned in Job 1: "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them." I imagine these had to be spiritual beings if they were able to present themselves before the Lord. It doesn't make sense for Genesis 6 to mean sons of Seth or any kind of human sons. If that were the case, why is there a contrast between the 'sons of God' and the 'daughters of men'? As if these are strictly two different beings - supernatural beings and human women. Plus it says "that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful" as if these human women were a new thing to them, as opposed to human men who were already aware of beautiful women and sexual intercourse.
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 4 ай бұрын
Initially, the bloodline of Seth would have intentionally created distance between the two groups in order to not fall under their influence. But as time went on, and as always happens, the descendents of Seth relaxed their concerns and began to not see the necessity for remaining isolated. No doubt the line of Cain had merchandise that would prove helpful. The women from that line would have dressed more provocative and more sensual and would have been more flirtatious then the more modest women from the line of Seth. The men essentially let down their guard and perhaps there was even some organized plan by the Cain line to have their females seduce the "sons of God" and marry them for some advantage.
@_mcknight
@_mcknight 4 ай бұрын
@@truthbebold4009 No, it doesn't make any sense for the sons of God to be the sons of Seth. Why from Seth's line in particular would there need to be giants and strong men? Again, Job talks about the sons of God being there when Satan went to speak to him. I don't think they were Seth's sons.
@CaukyAsian
@CaukyAsian 6 ай бұрын
This guy does a ton of mental gymnastics to explain away the most obvious explanation.
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 4 ай бұрын
Reading the Bible in its context (as was done in this video) is the complete antithesis to "mental gymnastics"
@davidharrigan9884
@davidharrigan9884 2 ай бұрын
Gensis 3 talks of enmity between Satan's seed and Eve's seed. DNA is God's creation, Adams seed was through Seth
@campland2880
@campland2880 6 ай бұрын
Why are you afraid of the MOST LIKELY truth: "fallen angels"? Why does this bother you, and so many others? You accept all of the other parts of the Bible, too include bodily ressurections, and parting of seas and mana from the clouds, but not this? Genesis, Exodus, Numbers, Job, Daniel, Jude, Peter, Matthew, Luke, Revelations and others, too include the popular book of Enoch of course would disagree with you. Very curious. . . .
@bbl5499
@bbl5499 3 ай бұрын
They gatekeeping, clearly.
@visamap
@visamap 11 ай бұрын
Thank u all very much
@isabelnuriat574
@isabelnuriat574 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much you made it clear ❤
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible Жыл бұрын
You‘re welcome!
@chuckwieser7622
@chuckwieser7622 7 ай бұрын
I think that the significance of the term 'Son's of God' still point to something of the divine council. But you certainly made a good case. And point out some important ways to cross reference scripture. Thanks
@johnsey2625
@johnsey2625 6 ай бұрын
This is interesting perspective but what about Jude 1:6-7?
@Troy-Moses
@Troy-Moses 6 ай бұрын
_Luke 3:38 Enos, which was the son of _*_Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God._* So the "sons of God " are the descendants of Adam through Seth.
@Duck-xc1sy
@Duck-xc1sy Ай бұрын
No
@robusc4940
@robusc4940 8 ай бұрын
Do you teach JUSTIFIED/saved/enter Heaven by faith eg Eph 2:8-8, Gal 2:16, Rom 4:5 or faith AND WORKS eg Acts 26:20 ?
@levymalikebu1813
@levymalikebu1813 4 ай бұрын
If the narrative is that way about sons of God you are referring as the line of Seth and daughters of man referring to line of Cain, why don't we have the same giants in our time as the world still shows that there are sons of God and daughters of man people who don't worship God. Those giants were not simple giants incredible in all ares. We have a problem here.
@Thechomp1eman
@Thechomp1eman Ай бұрын
I saw someone say 1st Enoch interpretation is that they were angels?
@larrymoore2571
@larrymoore2571 11 ай бұрын
Great video, I love that scripture defines the scripture without wild speculation. I love that you mentioned God's definition of 'sons of God'. ~ Romans 8:14; "For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God." Is there evidence that God's Spirit was leading in Genesis 6? ~ Genesis 6:2-3; ... the ‘sons of God’ saw that the ‘daughters of men’ were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. ‘Then’ the LORD said, “My ‘Spirit’ shall not ‘ABIDE’ with ‘MAN’ forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless, his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” Why does God immediately proclaim that He is removing His 'Spirit' from ‘MAN’? Because God will not share His glory with another pagan false god. What fellowship has light with darkness? ~ Deuteronomy 7:3-4; "Furthermore, you shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughters to their sons, nor shall you take their daughters for your sons. For they will turn your sons away from following Me to serve other gods; Then the anger of the Lord will be kindled against you, and He will quickly destroy you."
@MasterpieceBible
@MasterpieceBible 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting. Had not noticed that before. Thanks for sharing!
@artemusbowdler7508
@artemusbowdler7508 6 ай бұрын
Men began to multiply and Sons of God are two different beings
@Martipee
@Martipee 6 ай бұрын
Forgotten verse here is Gen 6:4: "..... , ." (NKJV), meaning they were 'valiant' men who were 'ancient' and 'reputable'. Doesn't sound like evil men, even though being thought of as the Nephilim, nor do they sound like angels. Described as giants, their character relates more to being noble than wicked, yet skimmed over like the sons-of-God being angels. No mention of their origins either, so are they part of the original creation, but not important enough to be part of the main genealogy including Jesus?
@davidclark6694
@davidclark6694 4 ай бұрын
Finally someone with commong sense. Christendom is filled with pagan beliefs from the heathens. Adam was the first high priest and the line continued through seth. The sons od seth abandoned their priesthood and adopted (married) pagan beliefs. The priesthood ended and there was no intercessor between god and man. Hence why the world went crazy
@JamesHardy1000
@JamesHardy1000 Жыл бұрын
Accurate! This is exactly how the Lord revealed it to me as well. This Enochian Magic released by those who are deceived by it’s heretic book called Enoch” must pray that they would allow God to open up their understanding and preach the truth of God’s Word and not fables. Bless you man of God.
@zeke9067
@zeke9067 Жыл бұрын
As “heretical” and “magical” that you yourself are calling it, Jude actually quoted it. So, although the entirety of the book isn’t divinely inspired, therefore disallowing it to be included in the canon, some of it is true and is included in our Bible today(1 Enoch 1:9 talking about the Second Coming of Christ). All authors of the New Testament knew about Enoch and his writings and I don’t believe it should be considered “magic” as if demonic in nature. ESPECIALLY if you haven’t taken the time to read it yourself. Not saying you haven’t but hopefully you aren’t making these claims based upon what others have said. Also, prudence and caution should be used when claiming the Lord revealed something like this to you, especially if I would say the Lord revealed the other interpretation to me. Not that you don’t hear from the Lord or spend much time in His Word or can’t hear from Him, but I’ve also done the same and have studied the original language as well and seem to come to a different conclusion. I hope this does not sound like an attack of any kind, brother, just wanted to share my thoughts on it! God bless man!
@wendisonsantos5953
@wendisonsantos5953 11 ай бұрын
WHO WAS WITH GOD WHEN HE CREATED MAN?
@charliethompson5813
@charliethompson5813 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for reading your bible and sharing what you believe. One day we will all stand before God himself and give an account of our actions here on earth, including the information we may have shared with others. Please take a look at the term "sons of God" again. It appears twice in Genesis and three times in the book of Job. They all speak of angels or heavenly beings that have direct access to God. Mankind does not have this access in the old testiment (read Luke 16). In the new testiment mankind is given the power to be called "sosn of God" through Jesus.
@frankiemadrid9030
@frankiemadrid9030 Ай бұрын
They were royal descendants, human men and its generations of men "taking" women. Which ones? Their patriarchs are mentioned in the genealogy before, i believe
@elitedrumlessons6174
@elitedrumlessons6174 Жыл бұрын
You have to look at the original Hebrew text in the OT not English! Bene Elohim is the term used, which is also used in Job speaking of angelic beings! The Book of Enoch has the same exact story as Genesis 6 but expands on the story in greater detail. Enoch was considered scripture up until 300-400 AD so there is no debate that the ancient reader considered Genesis 6 supernatural and not about men. Most biblical scholars believe in the supernatural explanation in this story, because remember they actually research the original Hebrew/Greek/Aramaic
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 Жыл бұрын
Satan has been laying the groundwork for end time delusions for thousands of years. Angelic hybrids with humans is part of that delusion.
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