Who Can Build The BEST Sleeper? (Automation | BeamNG Multiplayer)
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5 ай бұрынToday @Butch13_Gaming and I are back in Automation and BeamNG to build and race SLEEPERS! But who built the best sleeper? Watch the video and let us know in the comments, as well as give us more ideas for challenges!
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@echo9082 5 ай бұрын
You two should target a power to weight ratio when setting up these builds. I think a tighter criteria would help!
@darealkosmo 5 ай бұрын
I agree! We've been discussing tightening up criteria and having more structured comparisons :) I think the next one we have planned will hit some of this criteria for sure!
@Limitless154 5 ай бұрын
Top gear transit sleeper vibes
@axelvandelft8982 4 ай бұрын
I agree maybe also same body only engine build and then test it
@RmX. 4 ай бұрын
I wanna see a competition of a race cars Max 2 liters engine Min 1000kg car No quality
@MrGatanasov 2 ай бұрын
@@darealkosmo Try building the most reliable I4 and make it a diesel.
@UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx 5 ай бұрын
Mismo casually running like a 7.8 quarter mile in a full friggen cargo van
@UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx 5 ай бұрын
(It autocorrect Kosmo to mismo :/)
@sanoshawntalik5069 5 ай бұрын
@@UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx You can edit your comment.
@Thatonefuckinguy 2 ай бұрын
bro made a hacker/robber van. 💀 "GO GO GO, THE FBI'S ON TO US MEN!"
@TarisSinclair 5 ай бұрын
I'm sure Butch's 1800BHP engine variant would receive Clarkson's stamp of approval: "Speed And Power Solve Many Problems".
@ghomerhust 3 ай бұрын
right in the mind of stuffing the jag xj220 engine in that transporter van. pretty epic!
@NullCreativityMusic 3 ай бұрын
Put that engine in the sleeper van
@alexc9434 5 ай бұрын
Pro tip: I think what you’re doing wrong in the beginning is your engine keeps blowing up. So to fix that you just need to make sure your engine doesn’t blow up.
@darealkosmo 5 ай бұрын
you know...I think you're onto something here...
@Linkbond 5 ай бұрын
That van is very much a sleeper. You hear it roll up and your like it's a base V8 and then the race starts and it's just GONE and the other person reacts like Butch did.
@stevepittman3770 5 ай бұрын
Next idea: tractor pull? Make really beefy torquey vehicles then hook your rear bumpers together and see who can pull the other.
@ghostsgarage2964 2 ай бұрын
Pulls are typically bad and don’t show actual power. It’s who ever has more traction in the beginning typically so if one person has no traction the pull is bad and can’t be counted
@justinpatterson5291 5 ай бұрын
4WD + Drag power = OP traction and take off control. You need to drop that thing in a Baja vehicle or something.
@JanTonovski 5 ай бұрын
Looks like you made the "Ferd" supervan 😂. That acceleration all the way to 300kph was just mind blowing. Maybe a challenge for next time would be a certain cost limit. That way one could build a crappy 10 liter engine and the other a perfect 3 liter.
@zeaaronkuehn4045 5 ай бұрын
I think he definitely succeeded at building a sleeper van I would just be afraid to go near it because kidnapping
@jessealan1873 5 ай бұрын
I just wanted to throw out there how much I enjoy watching the engine building on your channel. I’m a mechanic irl and everytime I see the engine try to destroy itself I just have to laugh 😂
@MechaNexus 5 ай бұрын
The fact you went with the shady white candy van made this whole thing even more hilarious. XD
@alexanderliebscher3472 5 ай бұрын
Having the turbocharger come on around 4000+ RPM is not good in the slightest. You choke out all the power the engine makes low down, making the turbo effect jarring and sudden, causing wheelspin (in BeamNG). Try a turbo that comes on sooner, your engine will rarely run in its perfect powerband, especially when shifting a lot.
@miguelgameiro8063 5 ай бұрын
I play automation regularly and I still can’t make tiny turbos running straight but he should be upped all quality sliders to help
@wobblysauce 3 ай бұрын
Same thing in real life... to much power early and you bend rods, so you need some rpm to assist, 4k is a good spot.
@NatalieTG 7 күн бұрын
Dohc engines dont have pushrods :)
@Stork2204 5 ай бұрын
Automation Turbo engines prefer around 70-80% exhaust flow and the compressor can be more like 150%, it will drop a little power but will spool much sooner
@ducewags 5 ай бұрын
@Stork2204 ProCharger's, blowers and super chargers have a question. What lag? Also no extra heat, it's a win win.
@rickcupola6262 4 ай бұрын
@@ducewags Centrifugal superchargers... Make them run on 48V or 400V (if you're extra silly) like Garrett is developing recently and you'll be golden. There will still be more heat when forcing more air density in. More air mass = more fuel has to be burnt.
@ducewags 4 ай бұрын
@@rickcupola6262 Atomized fuel is like AC to an engine, and the more you put in, the cooler the charged air is. You kinda missed that part in the air charge.
@rickcupola6262 4 ай бұрын
@@ducewags I wasn't talking about the inlet air density increasing due to the latent heat of vaporization of fuel cooling the intake charge. I was talking about the overall heat output of the engine increasing due to the increased cylinder pressure. More chemical energy put in, more kinetic energy and heat energy put out. Apologies for the unclear wording.
@ducewags 4 ай бұрын
@@rickcupola6262 Oh I don't know about the numbers you got. I run a Pro-Charger on my 7.3 oil burner, and a 14-71 on my drag car. Fun fact, you can grab my zoom tubes on my 570 after a 7 second run. 13 gallons of fuel is a ton of engine AC in any book.
@eddiejackson1566 3 ай бұрын
Guy says "a motor that diesnt sound good all the time" then makes a V8
@Glocktopus42 5 ай бұрын
The goal was to build a sleeper, and of course Kosmo builds an actual sleeper van 😂😂😂 great video man!
@PiX3LS_XD Ай бұрын
0:26 love how he just rips his bumper off
@dni9283 5 ай бұрын
imagine your kidnappers kidnaps you with a sleeper van lmao
@kelevra558 5 ай бұрын
Brother that turbo ramp was PERFECT when you said you didn't like it. Thats pretty much exactly what you want. A visible ramp in, then flat as possible through the end of the graph. Regarding torque anyway. Horsepower, you want the same kind of ramp in, then you want to set your rev limiter the second power starts falling off.
@TinaGloria2012 5 ай бұрын
Not all sleepers sound like normal cars 😂😂😂
@emilyanahara767 10 күн бұрын
Fastest kidnapper van on the planet. rolls around the neighborhood sounding like the catalytic converter got stolen off that stock V8 work van luring in kids with candy and soon as the cops catch on you're 3 states over in 10 seconds flat. Definitely a proper sleeper build.
@youtubeSuckssNow 5 ай бұрын
Usually if you sleep in it it's a sleeper. So if there's a bed in the back it's a sleeper.
@asaphuntthemunk5243 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@KARR 5 ай бұрын
Well they both looked the sleeper part!
@sativa1320 3 ай бұрын
"I want something that doesnt sound like much at idle" Chooses a v8, notorius for having a crazy and great idle sound lmao
@danielllitpek2014 3 ай бұрын
An Inline 5 Turbo would've been great, Volvo had built a lot of sleepers in their time and their I5s are iconic
@MikkoRantalainen 3 ай бұрын
Inline 5 is also easy to make sound as non-performant on idle.
@Ninotipinoti 3 ай бұрын
'yes officer its stock' :P
@WoodenPlankGames 7 күн бұрын
Frankly, in terms of being a sleeper, having omega power at high revs is a good thing. However, putting slicks, much less soft compound (note: the highest grip) slicks on a sleeper is no bueno. Nobody puts racing slicks on their work van, they're not even street legal.
@lordsrednuas 5 ай бұрын
Just casually breaking 300kph with a van :D
@No-vq1iv 3 ай бұрын
That's not a sleeper, it's an AWD race car with a van's body. I think there's actually a classification for that in racing.
@lrander 5 ай бұрын
0-100 km/h in 1,833 seconds - not many cars can do that! Yeah, I counted frames... 🙂
@asaphuntthemunk5243 3 ай бұрын
So 1.833 seconds in a 0-100 is insane
@probablysomeonesomewhere 5 ай бұрын
smaller turbine = faster spool, but more heat
@Remmes 5 ай бұрын
Would love a build where you use a random number gen for certain things, if it doesn't work out you can roll again until it does work (but can't re-roll for a better number once working)
@darealkosmo 5 ай бұрын
omg haha, great idea.
@mikejefferys 5 ай бұрын
That’s just asking for trouble 😂 5:16
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 5 ай бұрын
We need more automation multiplayer!
@usshared1649 5 ай бұрын
Hello again
@General_Madness 4 ай бұрын
If it revved a bit higher and didn't have a turbo, I would think you would be trying to make a nascar, as that's what it reminds me of for some reason. Edit: I change my mind it sounds exactly like ken block's gymkana hoonicorn, and it has similar specs actually! (KB: AWD, 1400hp, V8 twin turbo; Kosmonout: AWD, 1600hp, v8 twin turbo, and also both cars sound very murican.)
@timarc9895 14 күн бұрын
I enjoy watching you two build crazy stuff and competing against one another, cool video 🙂
@SrFrancia0 3 ай бұрын
Just two dudes trynna have fun. I love it
@subjectc7505 4 ай бұрын
Definitely something you wouldn't expect to be fast until the driver floors it
@solidmoon8266 3 ай бұрын
The deal with a sleeper car isnt based on sound. Its about suping up the car while keeping the exterior as unmodified as possible. Since you kept everything under the hood and no altering exterior, its an easy pass
@jackmagnium6115 5 ай бұрын
the V12 you made in the last video is supposed to be a 90 degree V12 with old school distributor ignition and an LT1 1990 corvette style intake
@dayzer001 28 күн бұрын
Kosmo made the "hey I got candy" van and Butch made a 1970s wagon LOL
@MassiveSquirrel42 5 ай бұрын
I think you should make cars under 200hp
@Yes.-_- 4 ай бұрын
In my eyes a sleeper is just what’s seen from the outside, i think it’s less about how it sounds, fast looking cars are expected to be fast, what you don’t expect is a van going 200mp/h in 5 seconds 😂 I’d say it’s considered a sleeper build.
@ZhaojuEphastine Ай бұрын
Imagine you're showing off to this van and it rockets you into shame in 0.5 seconds x}
@bencemuller7919 28 күн бұрын
If you want a smooth drivetrain(=more grip), go with helical lsd and awd. The viscous are useless, the on-demand also. In the engine, an undersquare (long stroke) config gives you in general more torque in the lower rpm sections.
@user-jy3gs5yg1r Ай бұрын
18:47 omg😂😂😂😂😂😂what kind of monster did you cook up
@Darkslide2AR-FE 3 ай бұрын
so basically you built a drag sleeper and he made a drift sleeper
@Hi12190 5 ай бұрын
Bubbles got my crack up.
@atrumluminarium 4 ай бұрын
The van was an interesting choice 😂
@flakey7832 3 ай бұрын
Turbos are not as hard as they seem. 4 graph is a must. Compressor size makes the bubble bigger and moves it up and to the right. Trim moves the bubble to the right and up (slightly). Boost moves the blue boost line up and to the right. Turbine size is just used to control how much flow (hp) you want your turbo to support (your engine to make), and to increase or decrease turbo lag/minimize surge and exhaust temperatures. Intercooler size does pretty much nothing at this stage, I think they're trying to fix the calculations.
@flakey7832 3 ай бұрын
If your turbo is doing some crazy stuff just increase turbine size/compressor size or decrease boost. Then start again from a point where it is stable
@Tim_The_Dim 3 ай бұрын
You should do a build were you set a (low) price limit on the cars, automation should tell you the price in the summary section
@louismaas9349 5 ай бұрын
smaller turbos spool up quicker which will give you that low end torque but you have to kind of balance that with how much power you want to make
@miguelgameiro8063 5 ай бұрын
You should be gone with 4 valves since it allows VVL and your idle would be not been so choppy
@hyper14102 3 ай бұрын
Here's an idea for a challenge: Weight to Power ratio. This makes things interesting since there's so many things you could do
@SamuraiGamingMikejr 3 ай бұрын
dude made a van that looks like its giving out candie
@wulfleyn6498 3 ай бұрын
Van reminds me of the best racecar i ever made in auto, was a van with awd and a 10l v16. Kinda wanna experiment with hiding aero and other parts to make an ultimate sleeper van.
@thecommenternobodycaresabout 4 ай бұрын
I like building F1 style cars. So far, AWD is by far the best in, pretty much, every aspect. Cornering is a 7/10, on keyboard, but acceleration and handling, especially during acceleration and turning is 11/10. I cannot understand why there are no AWD F1 cars in real life. I have a video in BeamNG showcasing that.
@ajmayse7716 5 ай бұрын
It's a great sleeper lol I have 02 Chevy Silverado 6cyl with 600 HP
@austinkingan9073 3 ай бұрын
a sleeper is something that looks stock outside of the car but inside the engine compartment is totally different
@docternoblex 3 ай бұрын
The van reminds me of the Dodge vans with the big block hemis, absolutely bonkers vehicles
@Oakleythomasson 5 ай бұрын
bro i always saw your trailmaker videos but i never knew you made BeamNG videos
@zerrierslizer1 3 ай бұрын
my guy, you built a NASCAR VAN!!
@ZebbePlayz 5 ай бұрын
To be honest i think that butch built a more realistic sleeper, but yours is cool too
@AlexLinder-zn2lv 2 күн бұрын
I would love to see a v 20 engine in a go cart
@fenrir324 15 күн бұрын
that turbo lag is insane
@Debi2137 5 ай бұрын
Now try to build rally car
@damoncatlin734 5 ай бұрын
I play a hell fo a lot of automation and i am a mechanic irl and teh best way to make power is watching the flow graphs its on the right like the stress graph and running nitro on an n/a motor you can make dumb power ive gotten 1500+ out of an n/a 4.5 v6 with nitro and the power band is much smoother
@Meyer-gp7nq 5 ай бұрын
I clicked on this expecting a van that you can sleep in, for like camping or being a hippie. This is much better
@romainsoupedrouet3374 5 ай бұрын
Insane video ! I love this concept!! I have a question, what's de plateforme on wich you are building chose engines, I would mike to try it !
@dion256. 3 ай бұрын
nice ETK 800 series at the start of the vid.
@olbik5171 Ай бұрын
4:02 Use Nithromethane fuel, it is the best for power
@randomone649 2 ай бұрын
Make a city car, a small and compact car with a small compact engine for driving around the city
@JoMomma-pj3io 5 ай бұрын
Imagine that, a dude in a green family car going 150 km/h just steals your wheel
@aidanschmidt 5 ай бұрын
I would have out some crazy vvl and vvt on it. that would give it a good low rpm sound and a crazy high rpm
@aidanschmidt 5 ай бұрын
also flatplane crank
@gojimeteor7986 3 ай бұрын
Very cool super van! Definitely not a sleeper with that sound lol Idk if it’s an option in automation but irl a thing you could do to fix the sound would be to tune the ECU to run less fuel at lower rpm’s and higher fuel ratios at higher rpm’s. Once again don’t know if that’s in automation tho 😅
@derekspringer6448 3 күн бұрын
You run however much fuel the engine needs... Doing more just wastes gas and loses power.. Less just makes the engine unsafe if it doesn't immediately blow up, depending on how much fuel you're talking about taking out. Plus it doesn't change the sound in any meaningful way... Who told you this crap? Because I know for a fact you aren't wrenching on cars for real to have gained this "knowledge" yourself. You'd know better by the time you actually figured out how to change the engines fuel map.
@insomniacbritgaming1632 3 ай бұрын
so butch builds a sleeper. Kosmo builds the Ford Supervan...
@VampyrMygg 4 ай бұрын
Just a quick thing on the bypass valves, they're not manually operated, basically meant to be so that with normal driving you use the full exhaust, but once you go full throttle it bypasses the exhaust, at least that's how the developers of Automation have explained it, how it works in BeamNG is another thing.
@darealkosmo 4 ай бұрын
ohhhh gotcha!! Thanks for explaining. I thought it was like one of those ghetto eBay exhaust valves that you operate with a key fob xD
@user-gh5vp6vh7j 3 ай бұрын
The delayed jump in power is a typical turbo rather than super charged
@Markgamer480 3 ай бұрын
i've seen some cars have dual exhaust but one exit, maybe try that or make them go behind the bumper like hidden
@plagueless9829 5 ай бұрын
Bro said he didn’t want it to sound good and chose a v8 😂
@arsiiskay_official 2 ай бұрын
Pls try 13.1 comp ratio, high cams, advance ignition timing, 14,000rpm Square engine ( same sized bore and stroke ) in an N/a engine
@lunarz7117 5 ай бұрын
Make a Track Monster for nest race! Mid Engine Boxer!
@robsorgdrager8477 4 ай бұрын
For the best sleeper builds in real life N20 is the king. Build a low comp engine with forged internals. Cam profile with good lift but not a bunch of separation or overlap. Cram like 200 hp worth of nitrous through it.
@CarsenLee-ud8fv 3 ай бұрын
Def a sleeper, Also love the videos keep up the great work!
@darealkosmo 3 ай бұрын
thanks! :D
@3DVikig 2 ай бұрын
Use nitro methanol next time for massive hp gains
@zloboslav_ 3 ай бұрын
Everybody knows the best sleeper in BeamNG is "Mattress Sport" LMAO XD
@severinghams 4 ай бұрын
for more power at low rpm youd want a belt driven supercharger but theres no option for that.
@lordsrednuas 5 ай бұрын
I mean, its not the most sleepery sleeper. But I also dont know what you could do to it where breaking 300kph in a van wouldn't be surprising. Anything short of a rocket engine sticking out the back and it probably counts as a sleeper
@sijonda 5 ай бұрын
If you wanted to go sleeper, do a 4 or 3 cylinder. Everything else has torque.
@MrLarsgren 5 ай бұрын
maybe a pulling challenge. all about planting the power to the ground and not roast the tires
@CAPTAINVR8 2 ай бұрын
8:40 sounds like a mustang or a dodge charger hellcat or a redeye engine ngl Btw kosmo if you used a Supra mk4 ish shape those make awesome sleepers
@pwm_vrt6 2 ай бұрын
supras are not sleepers at all, they're literally sport cars
@astrokiller1993 3 ай бұрын
need to add timing down low to spool faster
@odomokdragon Ай бұрын
I wonder if you could even make a sleeper rotary... 🤔
@tjockisleffe3847 4 ай бұрын
Butch sounds like sean strickland
@cozycab 5 ай бұрын
This is a great video idea
@tomaszskowronski1406 3 ай бұрын
Of course its a sleeper. you can sleep in the back after all
@caralho5237 5 ай бұрын
From all the things to pick, you chose a van...
@Sandell21 5 ай бұрын
I'm assuming here, that you guys saw that episode of top gear when they took on the Australians and made a very fast van? 😊
@hyper14102 3 ай бұрын
5:07 Turbo's typically give boost at higher rpm's. If you want low-end boost you should take a supercharger. Also, is it possible to twincharge an engine in automation?
@RickolasBigDickolas 3 ай бұрын
No superchargers in the current builds of automation but they are currently under way and should arrive within the next 10 years.
@hyper14102 3 ай бұрын
@@RickolasBigDickolasWhy aren't superchargers there yet? I mean yes they are more complex than spooly boiz but still
@Thatdoglover9411 5 ай бұрын
You want the intercooler to be around the same strength as the engines hp If you have a turbo charged engine that has 1000 hp then you want the intercooler to be at 1000 hp to maximize engine power.
@johnathanedwards9054 4 ай бұрын
I'm currently stuffing a 460ci (stroked to 532ci) Ford big block into a pos ranger. A huge engine in a small vehicle is a great way to make a sleeper 😅😂😅
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