Gaming Historian This is (so far what ive watched) ok (I'll tell more opinions when I finish watching)

Gaming Historian Ok, so in my opinion, this was a solid episode. I think that you should do more of these. It had everything you really need to know.

Gaming Historian While your big projects are definitely the draw of the channel, these short one are very welcome too! Topics that don't warrant a full time episode, but are still worth talking about are perfect. Like you said: short, but informative.

These shorter episodes are great for fans waiting on your next, larger-scale video. I say keep it up. Btw, this was a great topic; I had never really thought much about where the D-Pad came from.

This was cool, do more.

This is the first time I've seen a decent KZfaqr leave a comment and no one saying "on my God you're that guy!"

Lol

Wowwwww

I understand why

@@Lexilove2016 wait your right

HoopsandHipHop another guy who doesn’t come up as much as I think he should is the father of the PlayStation ken kutaragi.

And sadly the Virtual Boy.

@@Akrenix and the wonder swan

Wasn't he involved in the creation of the Game & Watch handheld too?

@@Akrenix for every success, creative geniuses have 100 failures. Their tenacity and drive is what finally benefits the industry

Mainly because it's a cheap piece of shit way to control games actually.

Smartphones would like a word with you.

Noxedwin Tepes Eh, we wouldn’t be talking about this if our TVs had touchscreens.

Yup, I hate using analog sticks for menus. D-pads are definitely better and more accurate for this.

sweetnumb to control 3D games it’s bad but for 2D it’s so much better than using the analog stick

You might want to ask your parents to send you to a better school...

should have called it the lower case t pad

Once they said that if it ate faster. I would get pregnant and would die, I am a boy.

when i play minecraft on my ps4, i use the left joystick to navigate menus almost all the time!

Also, fighting games!

But it takes very little long to get there its not that big of a deal

For the joycon, it was because it was two smaller controller in mind. Well, nintendo should have offerred the choice of a dpad or 4 buttons for multiplayer.

How would somebody turn it on its side to play multiplayer

@@ct2651, there is an aftermarket switch mod for a D-pad joycon

And is required in Megamix.

Plenty of indi-devs as well as some AAA devs (such as Sega and Capcom) still make 2D games which would be unplayable with analog sticks.

I mean 2D games are playable with analog joysticks but it's a really shitty way of playing a 2D game

And you can map certain functions to a d-pad since some games don't use it at all, like minecraft. Some functions aren't on by default, and need to be mapped. Just use the D-Pad!

And Tetris

No D-Pad?! Failure! Naw, I'm sure he would've been cool with it.

He would've supported it, it fits his design philosophy, which is that power isn't everything, but it is what you do with what limited power that you have that counts.

Merrick Egber Very true. He insisted on using common, cheap, off the shelf parts that were a few years old and not top of the line powerful anymore for the hardware of the GBA and that system was hella popular.

He would've wanted it to be simehwt different.

"He insisted on using common, cheap, off the shelf parts that were a few years old and not top of the line powerful anymore for the hardware of the GBA " he did? He died four years before it was released

Did you just say the analog stick is good for shooters? Because if you mean shmups then no. If you mean first and third-person shooters, it's better than a d-pad but noooo.

Not to mention RPGs or any other game that requires extensive use of menus.

Acejinjo The D-Pad is amazing for almost any kind of sprite based game. The Analog Stick is more better for most 3D games

Acejinjo I didn't enjoy games as much before I experienced the NES controller. It just felt so natural.

Yeah arcade sticks are better for shmups and especially fighting games because with a d-pad your thumbs just get murdered.

why it is a cross pad,but we call it d pad.

@@strategicfooyouagencyfirst8197 It's short for directional pad

@@johnn6681 thx🤣。i get.

@@strategicfooyouagencyfirst8197 :P

It ok it's not good by any means the dpad on the lite is sharp and hurts after awhile of fighting games. sony wins that hands down xbox controllers have the best buttons but their pad sucks too.

I always thought it came from it being the "Directional Pad"

@TrueSinister Don't blame me,blame the scriptwriters In the manga it all ends at Battle City

This is one of the majar pros of d-pad

This episode took very little time actually, in fact the insert shots were done this week.

While he continues to collect donations from idiotic Patreon backers.

Why hate the backers??

noo if you're into engineering this was really cool

Uh, why the sudden "hate" for Gaming Historian? Did I miss something? Catching up a lot right now...

That's what she said

Yee

puellanivis yes I'm pretty he knows that

Yep! I just thought it was funny that both Sony & Microsoft still use it but Nintendo, the creator, does not. Not out of the box anyway. Those pro controllers are pretty sweet though!

That hefty price tag on the pro controller though... Sheesh.

we all know this. I would honestly rather hath a dpad in the box than that feature tbh

I always believed that the D-Pad was an evolution of the arcade sticks and the intellivision round pad. Nintendo got it right.

Set "requires click" to off in the steam controller settings. It makes it a lot better. Still weird, though. I would prefer a DSi XL d-pad over it any day

Anything from Big N relating to hardware during the 80s was most likely Yokoi

Or Genyo Takeda. He did the more technical stuff like hardware spec and interfaces. Those two were crushing it back then.

Michirin9801 haha me too! I feel like such a nerd!

best d-pad in my book is the "rubber" versions of the genesis 6 button...the following are so CLOSE to that controller i would pretty much slot them in the top spot as well... 1.) Saturn bomberman "joycard" controller. Dpad is rubber but slightly softer...another god tier d-pad 2.) Sega saturn model 2's...best "plastic" dpad. i would love it if these had rubber dpads as well....i have heard from some that variation exists, but i have never seen it myself. i have gone thru the trouble of getting the saturn ones to work on pretty much all my consoles thru adapters. My one huge knock on the genesis is that i do not know of converters for it. Its worth mentioning but its not a "d-pad" but the PS2 version of the neo geo thumbstick pads are god tier level controllers as well..... for retro gaming, everything else feels like a notch or two below.

Unfortunately, I haven't used any of the controllers you've mentioned so I can't confirm or deny what you said... That said though, even though some of my favourite D-pads are also rubber, I generally prefer the clicky ones, you know, like the Game Boy Advance SP and Nintendo 3DS D-pads, especially when I'm playing fighting games, they feel so responsive! You always know for sure that you've pressed what you wanted to press, without pressing any in-between directions, you have no idea how many times I wanted to switch from holding left to holding right or vice-versa on the NES or the SNES D-pads only to accidentally press up in the process, that really throws me off when I want to do a Kikosho on Street Fighter for example... That NEVER happens on the Game Boy Advance SP, I can always consistently throw as many Kikoshos as I want on SF2 Turbo Revival, and the clicky D-pad also helps A LOT with Shoryukens, which again, I can only consistently pull off on the GBA or on Street Fighter IV on the 3DS... But yeah, even though I find clicky D-pads to be more responsive and reliable, my favourite ones are rubber because they're just so comfortable, and they get the job done on pretty much anything else that isn't a fighting game... What really doesn't help the 3DS's D-pad though is its placement... My overall ranking for D-pads is probably the PC engine ones on the top, mostly the Avenue Pad 6 because that one is just perfect, then GBA SP below that, and then the Wiimote, and then the SNES and NES, then the 3DS (which would be A LOT higher if using it wasn't so uncomfortable) and then the Dualshock controller for the original Playstation, then there's the Wii Classic Controller Pro's D-pad which is just plain awful, but it's not nearly as bad as the Game Cube's D-pad, I played Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom on someone else's Wii using the Game Cube controller, and I can't stress enough how much I HATED the GC D-pad... Everyone says how much they love the Game Cube controller for smash, maybe it's good for that, or maybe they're just so used to playing Melee that they don't realise how much better the Sideways Wiimote is, but let me tell you, it is the absolute WORST controller for a traditional fighting game, the button placement and shapes doesn't help either... Honestly what were they thinking when they designed that controller? It certainly wasn't about Fighting games, that much is for sure... A good controller should be good for _all_ types of games, not just one single game... Any other controllers I might have used I either didn't use the D-pad (PS2) or don't remember using it...

That's not true. Some patents are incredibly broad and accordingly strong. It's much harder to secure a broad patent which is why most patents are specific. For a patent to be broad and enforceable, you really have to be at the forefront of innovation in a field, but it happens.

Except that it's not technically a d-pad, nor is it technically a joystick... BUT IT'S SO. DAMN. CLICKY! :D

Don't tempt them lol

@@15r52 and then they followed the trend of using two analog sticks and discs

@@nobodyimportant4285 what are you a sony fanboy looking for attention? Go away weirdo.

@@nobodyimportant4285 and moved away from discs asap because optical media isn't the best for gaming

Is it me or is the sega channel forgotten by most? I loved it

Keep searching, I found a video by a guy who rigged his to simulate the channel with each reset (100% of the channel's content on a MicroSD instead of being plugged to a cable service).

Most of the 3DS is cheap feeling, to be honest. It was obsolete when it was launched .

But New 3DS (both small and XL) are awesome to me. (Well, 2DS is so cheap-feel like what you said.)

Jesse Krämer It's all bad even on the New 3DS models. I had to get mine repaired 2 months ago simply because it was slightly dirty.

The god awful circle pad is also a host of problems for a lot of people. One of my friend's circle pad completely broke with just a dozen hours of Smash 4. I think the LR buttons are the only well designed buttons on the 3DS

Valanway I can vouch on behalf of this exact thing happening to me. Though I don't blame the 3DS so much as I do the game being made on the console. That Circle Pad was not made to play such intense games like Smash Bros.

I read this in the voice of Carl from Sling Blade.

Is sony .

@@lightyagami8645 [...]s competitor Nintendo

@@benjaminbodewig3572 sony > Nintendo

John Martin Sony wouldn’t even exist without Nintendo

It was intentionally to make games more difficult for right-handed players so that they would spend more coins ... I'm sorry I forgot where I heard that. Some (old) arcade games have it on the right.

Findecanor Total shot in the dark, but was it from Guru Larry’s channel?

As a violinist it makes perfect sense to have the less intensive and more commonly used interface on the left and the more nuanced and more powerful interface on the right.

It's more like the N64's camera buttons to me.

It's too bad the Joy-Cons don't use a true D-Pad. But at least the Switch Pro Controller has one.

Pierre Begley they made it like that, because they wanted the joycons to be similar to one another for multiplayer games.

Chuy Renteria Yeah that's right. :D

whining this bad, you don't deserve a d-pad

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Abel Perez This, so much

i came out of your body

Not get hit by a car, for one...

Design a practical and fun vr headset based console that has more than 2 colours?

Virtual Reality.

Most d-pads suck, but the Super Nintendo and Wii Remote d-pads are awesome.

AVGN Reference!!

Onion Knight wrong. the wizard reference.

It's a reference to a movie actually. The 1989 Nintendo produced movie/commercial entitled "The Wizard". The line was "I love the power glove, it's so bad". AVGN is referencing that movie when he uses the line. It's also a meme.

Nintendo 1st party controllers too Wii classic Wii U classic controllers as well have amazing D pads

Za Goudou same here. I thought everyone knew that.

Yeah everyone knows that. He created the Virtual Boy too. It's common knowledge. This still was an interesting video. I didn't know Nintendo actually patented the D-pad (not like it mattered).

God Migikarp your lucky

Some RPGs.

Vehicle simulators change view with it.

Shovel Knight, Breath of the Wild...

Bethesda games use the select button as a "wait" button if I remember correctly, where you can wait to skip ahead a few hours in-game

I think you mean to ask: "Are there any modern console controllers that still have a 'select' button?" And I believe the last popular (and I use that term loosely) console that had a 'select' button was the Wii U. Modern Consoles still have a button opposite of the 'Start' button, but they aren't called 'select' anymore. Hell some controllers don't even have a button labeled "start' anymore.

Bob Labinne That's such a retro gamer thing to say, kinda biased

Bob Labinne Nah, that's what EA is gonna do on their next game. Pay for the $50 season pass and you can use the D-Pad.

Random Person Kinda biased towards modern gaming.

Ummm, probably it'll be better with separated microtransactions. Pay 10$ and you can use the UP button. But only 30$, for all UP\DOWN\LEFT\RIGHT to be able to do the Konami code.

Nintendo has already done that. Want to use a D-pad on your Nintendo switch? Pay 70 bucks for the pro controller

ZSTO Anthony E. Magoris in 1892.

I posted this exact comment, letter for letter, until I realized you did it first! Great minds think alike!

Slim shady, of course

but the patent allowed for sony and sega's to help improve and change the d-pad, i prefer the sega genesis d-pad over nintendos

Maximillian Lylat me too but you understand what I was saying. Patents actually deter such competition. But competition is where innovation truly happens.

the saturn Dpad is amazing!

Just a matter of preferences, even I have a Genesis and Saturn I don't like much their D-Pad, I prefer the one from nes/snes, one of the worst D-Pad for me comes from my beloved Dreamcast

Altough I like Sega since the Master System, they, in no way, perfected the D-Pad. Maybe it's only your specific thumb. To add to that... the 6 Buttom was a pain in the ass, with games like Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat. The Snes controller was the best, in this time, to play games. Anyway, it must be your entire specific hand. Did you play hard with this hand, like some kind of a JOY STICK or something?!

Steve Lalancette I was under the impression the six button lay of the genesis/PCE was the preferred one for fighting games like street fighter... most of the fighting pads released for the snes also have said layout.

You can test it with old friends. You just need a computer with both controllers Sega/Nintendo, with any emulator and multiplayer games... You'll see. Anyway, this result is coming from Canada... Maybe it's different in the american parts of Canada or in the USA. You know, french people are very different from you... That's why we have Zelda-A link to the past in french Québec and many other french games available to the american SEGA/Nintendo consoles.

Bruno Lôbo Agreed. I can't imagine playing a side scroller in handheld mode.

BirdGod that's exactly the problem. all i can do is buy the pro controller, sigh.

Saying "sigh" is incredibly stupid...

Juan Sanchez wow thanks for the tip, keep me informed of your nitpickings.

Kurt Angerdinger yeah, i see your point. the whole concept of switch wouldn't be possible otherwise.

The DualShock's D-pad was the best.

Personally, *scoffs* these D-Pads aren't nearly as bad as they're made out to be. They're just different, and some people abhor different.

I agree with you. While there ARE examples of terrible D-pads, most are acceptable. It often comes down to individual preference.

WellDoneTurner no fuck you 😂😂 Playstation and Nintendos are best.

JB 44775 why is everyone fighting over which piece of plastic in a plus shape is the best

There were earlier instances of directional BUTTONS, but not a Directional Pad.

hullstar242 it's just you.

Yes, just you.

It's just you.

hullstar242 for me it was OK, it could've been better.

The first ones (the whites) have a issue, but the newest ones (black) don't. What is wrong with then is their position on the face of the controller, not the action per se. If these d-pads were as bad as some people think, I didn't have finished Battletoads in one of them.

Mickael Mc Sony was the first company to do the analog stick better though. You didn't lose your hands when spinning the stick.

Nintendo invents the stuff, the others perfect it. It's like an exchange type thing.

Makes sense.

SuperGlued Crown It's kinda easy to improve upon something that's already invented.

Linksoer I was just making an example.