They really fumbled their best antagonist, fleshed out and believable, his motives were understandable and it really led many in the community to want to turn to his side. And in Ubisoft fashion they ruined it

"Who is Arron Keener?" The best villain and written character in the series(in my opinion). Love your content.

Keener is highly intelligent, resourceful and charismatic. His major flaw was that he kept burning bridges. He saw people/factions as tools that he dispose of instead of maintaining the bonds that kept them

Keener was, for the most part, a charming and intelligent operator. His anger at being abandoned consumed him. From hero to villain. Though in his eyes, he still saw himself as a hero. Just the hero that had to do bad, to get good done. But again, his views were twisted since his abandonment in the dark zone. Why his character worked so well throughout the Division games. I still want to know more about the rogue network he set up.

His road from patriotic fanatic and SHD agent to becoming villain should be a movie tbh its such great story, after they killed him this game died for me.

A legend. That is who he is. The man that out reach is still felt today through his rogues and those he manipulated to fight for himself. The man that made factions that would shoot him on sight to unknowingly fight for him. *He is infamous*

Hopefully we get more info the ANNA network. I find it hard to believe they’d leave that. There could be other Rogue cells that worked with him.

My favorite Keener quote: The quarantine as it's set up is good - good at keeping idiots on the island. Sure, the Coast Guard's watching the water, and the JTF's guarding the bridges and tunnels, but the thing is this: the weakest component in any system is people. All it takes is one guy who'll take a bribe, one optimist who thinks he's smarter than everyone else, one desperate mother or father who'll do anything for their kid, and the whole system breaks down. And that one little slip, that one tiny crack - that's all I needed.

Aaron Keener was a great Antagonist, who I wanted to hunt down all through Division 1. But, at the same time I understood why he switched to a Rogue, I honestly probably would have done the same if I had been left behind, abandoned, denied any kind of help. Just wish they had done the end of his story better

The Division always felt like it was missing something important ever since Keener died. Our best rival. Always one step ahead, silver tongued and deadlier than every enemy faction in the game.

Easily Keener is one of, if not the most, interesting game characters ever written. Very compelling character.

I hope we use his rogue network in the future that would be so cool .

Your narrative of the Division is so mysterious and suspenseful. It makes the lore of the game so interest and changes the perception of the entire gameplay. Thank you for your dedication

Division literally needs its own series. Way too much lore to cram into a 2 hour movie. Done right and the series would be awesome

This is my speculation, but I think the rogue network is being used by us right now. And that the rogue network basically allows the agents to access all of ISAC's Systems without drawbacks. There is also the fact that I think Keener's legacy is indeed helping the Division tackle future problems. He did comment that he was always one step ahead of us, and it didn't seem to me that eliminating the Division was the primary goal. I rather believe that he was trying to pull the shroud out of whoever it is that allowed the collapse of society to happen. A lot of the new lore and content, at least in the games, points out that the Division's mission is flawed yet still feasible to be accomplished. I mean, Keener was doubting it, but I didn't encounter any information both in Division 1 and 2, pointing out that he specifically said that the mission isn't accomplishable. He simply was suggesting to adapt, and given that information, maybe ANNA was a way for the Division to adapt. At least it makes sense lore and game-wise how we are able to customize our agents to our preferences after Warlords of New York through levelling the SHD Watch. I may be overreaching it on this one, but heck, this is my opinion xD Please feel free to disagree and point me where I got it wrong o7

With the movie on a backburner (last I heard), I would still really like some more media made for Tom Clancy Division series. A thought. An anthology miniseries based on a different character, either day of life after the green plague, or based on important moments from the games along with new stuff from a collection of writers and directors. Just a thought.

The best vilain in the division franchise, before Natalya Sokolova earned that title.

His condition at the end reminded me of Emeline Shaw. He looked run down and tired, just as she did as an asymptomatic person. I'm wondering if he somehow got infected, only to find out he was asymptomatic? Anyway, I too am a bit agitated at how his story ended. I guess I let myself believe that Keener had a bigger plan, and not seeing how it was supposed to play out (at least not yet) has left a bad taste in my mouth. I too refuse to believe anyone else is the main villain of this game.

Anytime I think the word Rogue I hear your voice.

they should make a series about divison

I wonder if he knew about the hunters, Natalya and Calvin

Keener had a purpose and served it well. Good or bad he was great at it. Moreover, he stayed on mission, just readjusted. McManus is the one we have to get to now. Sokolova here and there we've been told lately but suckanus is the one pulling strings. Extremis Malis Extrema Remedia

Here's my two cents on the matter. I didn't mind Keener's portrayal in the second game as I assmumed eclipse was meant to do two things: Wipe away the last remnants of a government that wasn't worth it, and deny the Black Tusk from establishing a new dynasty through scorched earth tactics. The rest is history, those few who survive will be given a second chance in the long term. I also thought Keener allowing our agent to confront him was intended. As our agent would be a great asset if they could be turned. Keener is a capable fighter, and we aren't the first agents he's tried to recruit who refused. He just killed those who wouldn't side with him. This was probably no diffrent for him. After planting the seeds of doubt in our agent's head in the first game, and the first part of the final manhunt mission, us seeing the payload was probably where Keener thought it would all "click" in our heads and we'd finally understand. The only time he was probably "thrown off" the entire time was when we actually put up more of a fight than expected. If I had to guess the rogue network was intended to be activated at a later date or as a contingency in case he died to make sure his ideal new world came to pass and stamp out unwanted elements that may have managed to slip through the cracks. He can't be everywhere at once and to be completly fair having a backup in case someone managed the remove the mastermind from the equation sounds a lot like the kind of forsight Keener would have. Reguardless how vein he is. I understand it's far from perfect, as even if Keener thought he could 100% turn our agent, he'd still be making a substantial lapse of judgement by letting them within shooting distance of the payload. When it comes down to it, I don't think how Keener's story ended was all that terrible.

The way Keener uncharacteristically changed in attitude and conduct is the same way the Fei Lau changed. And now they're both dead. Uncharacteristically.

Can't wait til you hit 100,000 subscribers. It's long overdue

Yes!! Can't wait to get back to Keener's story - you were right, by the way, I think!! In older vids. He knew. He d**king knew!!

I fear that they're going the same "wacky, comic book villain" route with Sokolova too. She used to be more like pre-WONY Keener. You didn't really hear her much, instead you heard ABOUT her. But at the end of the SP manhunt, she's engaging in these lengthy, overwrought diatribes, literally negating all of her mystique, just like Keener did in the end.

Good sir , you always do such a amazing job , thank you for all your hard work and time you put in these .

Awesome video, man. Thank you for doing this.

This top tier stuff, mate. There are some good lore-related content creators out there for various games but this is definitely above par.

I don't think Keener is really dead and it all comes down to one simple interaction that happens in The Tombs mission : "You shouldn't trust ISAC, its not that hard to fool".

This was incredible. Awesome job!

Great content and analysis as always! Good job

What makes sense to me is during his own investigation of the outbreak, he learned about Sokalova and the Dir. of DHS, as well as the hunters. That’s why he made the People you’re working for being irrelevant comment.

Awesome job. Totally with you on being angry that he got written off so soon. I feel his character complexity could’ve gotten drawn on a little more.

Fay Lau broke my heart man😤💔

Awesome work as always :D

Yes my favorite villain in Division universe. Great lore video again!

I am genuinely interested and excited to see what else will be able to learn about Keener and his fellow rogue agents in the new year. I have a sneaky suspicion do that his version of ISAC is going to play a significant role.

I hope Theo switched Isaac’s face recognition of keener and keener faked his own death… one of year 5’s season is called keeners call sign “vanguard”

He’s back!

Love your videos, keep it up!

I was re-listening to this as I'm hungry for more lore talk, and only now, *10 years later* I somehow realised what SHD stands for. I apparently just hadn't thought about it any deeper than "Shade"...

I haven't really played too much of The Division 2, much less understand the lore, but Aaron Keener was such an amazing antagonist in the first game that they had me actively seeking out collectibles to learn more about him.

Pardon my French but, Fucking Thank you for making these amazing video's, love the content, love the depth you go into, love every minute of it!

*cough* This gonna be need a big update *cough* *cough*

im convinced we will make use of ANNA somehow someway. i don-t know what will lead to it, but we will use it im sure

Who is Arron Keener? A man that shouldn't like in the eyes of the boldest Rogue agent of all time, Agent Kai Phillips 😎

I just realized that we never did find the 3D printer on Liberty Island fighting keener (if you did, please tell me where it is at)

I'm just coming back to the Division after a long time away, and man, I feel like I missed a little more than a little bit.

Personally i would say that keener should've lasted until maybe s3 or s4 manhunt cause that was when the black tusk were starting to come out of the shadows. maybe even till the end as he could've survived and kept leading the rogue network, i also didn't want him to last too long as many would've started to find him annoying and tedious rather than a villain that we could be excited about. as the for rogue network i would simply say that they've gone underground with the death of keener. Thing is keener was kinda like a rogue agent commander like how faye lau was a commander for the division. he was a leader that could rally rogue agents but with his death the rogue network didnt have a leader to organize themselves around. also i can't say that the rogue network would last long, the problem with the network is that its essentially a loose alliance between rogues leading various factions and this was highlighted with the manhunts. You had keener's warlords where dragov was only concerned about amassing a criminal empire, kajika was only concerned with revenge against the jtf, conley was a typical cleaner wanting to eradicate the virus, i would say that theo and kajika were the only true loyalists to keener's cause as both of their views were similarly aligned with keener's. also i would say keener made a mistake with abandoning theo. theo singlehandedly created the rogue network and knew the technical workings of it as well. keener would've definitely needed theo to maintain and watch over the network. To conclude, im kinda hoping the rogue network makes a big comeback somehow especially with the recruited novel and the recent manhunt telling us about st louis.

Sometimes I forget digision 2 still gets 'content' story wise, im not sure if theres new stuff in the loot pool but its always good to see more story

Dude you really should do A audiobook narration!

Aaron Keener will forever be the best anti-villain in video games

I recall the brief cutscene where the agent is on the ferry to liberty island and Keener was observing it from the screen. He coughed briefly before laughing as the missiles hit the ferry. If I had to speculate, he was probably dying from some illness and might as well not escape

What I dont understand about SHD agents is they go into the program being told, “you are the last line, there will be no support if you are deployed” and then when they are deployed with little to no support they get angry?? I dont understand their reasoning.

I Enjoyed this video

I hope they expand on Keener a bit more in Resurgence. It is a huge opportunity since they are exploring events that happened between D1 and D2.

some of these Div 2 clips I've never seen

I'll never understand why they killed Aaron off so fast. There were so many layers to that character.

Knowing keener the slimy bastard that he is and how quickly he was put down I feel like he traded places with someone to get the hell out and had kept a REAL low profile Being so careful he doesn’t even communicate with anyone kind of careful But he’s probably dead thi

Keener is a surprisingly well-written antagonist; aside from being an polymath he's a very human and relatable character. I almost wish we hadn't killed him and instead he became the figurehead of the rogue agent faction which we could've gotten the option to join later in D2 or in the hypothetical D3.

That dialogue at the last. Portrays Keeners background perfectly. "When you look at the balance sheet..." He basically differentiates between people throught assets and liabilities. Something a wall street dealer would perfectly understand. Because they analyze balance sheets on a daily. Then the part where he says "Its almost as easy as putting two bullets in the center mass and third one in the head." Thats something i believe is said in the military? Whenever engaging with an enemy you shoot two in the chest and one in the head. An effective way to confirm your kill. Great voice acting. The dialogue is said so menacingly too

I 10000% think he isn’t dead; I think when Parnell screwed with ISAC’s recognition algorithms, he changed it that Keener couldn’t be recognized correctly. It totally fits with Keener’s personality and manipulative nature.

Im kinda surprised people are forgetting about the Warlords of New York mission with the Hacker. he was able to spoof the records a few times to say a body was his when it wasn't. im gonna put my money on that happening along with either some one who looks similar or made to look similar to him.

It really did blindside me with how easily we were able to take Keener out it didn't feel right to me at all. He was always not just 1 step but 2 steps ahead of everyone the man was genius he knew how to play everyone like a fiddle. The fact we seemed to be able to catch him off guard was just idk it didn't feel right. I was expecting him to pull off like a last minute get away at least but nope he died and it just wasn't right. The only way that I could make it make sense to me was that like Apollyon in the For Honor story needed to take herself out of the picture for her plan to actually work. So I been just telling myself that he let us kill him so his real plan would set in motion

I’m really glad the devs said they are going to expand on what he said when we killed him in year 5

Could have been awesome for D3 to have had the opportunity to join Keener side and run seasons based on whether JTF or Keener won out depending on the agents who join each side.

I think Keener was Right...we got played,We were all(Well some or most of us) were focused on winning,and these fights and small battles,were leading us..to one thing.WAR...and this war is what Keener was warning us about.And WE didn't see it before it was to late,and it caused it almost everything and Allies and the white house is in peices,BUT maybe Keener has another gift to Give US the Agents Kelso and manny along with others a fighting Chance to WIN...Nat thinks she has one.But she is No aaron keener,She will lose. and when she does...THAT will be our victory.But till then,Keep looking for clues or what ever keener left.Cause who knows.they could help us win this war.

Genuinely when I was beginning the fight against him I was questioning SHD and if Keener was right the whole time

Great video as always! I too was a bit upset when they got rid of Keener, but I also did some lore searching and theory crafting of my own. What if Keener used Theo's decoy tech to make someone else look/act like him so that he could go into deep hiding for a while? Could it be plausible for him to do something akin to that? Which could in turn, would give him time to travel further west, or even south "recruiting" as he travels. It could be a good way to setup things for year 5 and/or the next DLC? Or even Division 3.

Mate your spot on with this lore, always had a man crush on Keeners wit great job. (no homo) lol

Keener sounds like the voice actor for Max Pain

Has anyone noticed that keener sort of looks like a young Sam fisher?

I can't believe there is a video of me but here one thing that they got wrong i will never die -Vanguard

I wish there was a gameplay selection in the future where we can join keeners side and actually know what the hell is happening

Aaron was an idealistic man who suffered horrible near-death trauma that, coupled with being flat out abandoned by orders of ill-informed high-ups, shattered him. That experience combined with his innate self-assurance that he was the smartest guy in the room to turn him into the beast we simply know as "Keener". As much as I hated him and loved beating his smug ass down in his manhunt, I also felt great empathy for him because it was really all so avoidable.

Wish they made a way to play the entire game under Keener as a rogue would have made the entire game a hell of a lot better.

We should get a game where we play as keener and be the villain that would be sick

NGL i saw Keener as an antihero before he went all loony toons towards the end with the big pointy missile.

This is the reason why Div 2 on my desktop is called 'R.I.P Aaron Keener'

Maaaan these rogue videos makes me so sad we dont get too choose what side we wanna be on 😢 like imagine having one rogue agent story and one division story. The more i hear from the views of the rogues i wanna be one of em xD

they need a dlc in which you play as Aaron Keener, because in all honesty i dont think he's dead, i believe some time in the game's future he makes a sudden appearance while you're in trouble and helps you out, at the same time telling you everything thats been going on, and eventually you and manny realize it, while kelso goes rogue

“If you never take control you’ll never have control” Aaron Keener

Your storytelling made me reinstall these games and trully play them now

Wouldn’t make sense to make a division tv show movie without keener as the protagonist

what if he uploded his mind to the rouge network ? i just thought about this because we know keener shows up in the upcoming Descent game mode trailer and in PTS it says that Descent is like a simulation and our watch turn different color when we play Descent

Aaron Keener is a psychopath. It's clear he's using and discarding people around him just to get to his own ends like how he dropped Theo and no remorse when he hung that JTF soldier. From his home life it's clear that Keener had everything. A rich and comfortable upbringing, stellar schooling and some of the BEST training ever. However, it seems that it also installed in him a "save everyone" ideal and a hero complex. Also it seems he never had any tough situations to deal with as it sounds like he had an easy ride. The dark zone was a shitty situation, not going to lie and the loss of the civvies was shit yes. BUT it was a situation that went from bad to worse. The Rikers killed those civvies NOT the JTF and after losing that situation he got pissed, understandable but it seems he was never taught that civvie losses do happen. It's an unfortunate fact of war or any battle where there are innocents on the front lines. Then he believes he can do a better job then those who were in charge. Able to make a new society it would seem and he is the only one with the know how and drive to get it done. Also gathering agents to him to make it a reality means that aside from being trained and with new gear, he and his rouges are just another gang. Same thought process, different excuses. Also Keener thinks he is the ONLY one that is worthy of this new vision for the future and he's willing to leave people in their suffering just so he can focus on his own plans and goals. Then he makes Eclipse, as if the people of New York haven't suffered enough. He's willing to cull those who he believes who is "unworthy" to be in his vision of the future like the general population or the whole world. Even those who side with him are disposable assets much like how he abandoned Theo. He also shows contempt for others where he pauses when speaking Dolores name, first or last. He is so sure of himself and he believes he is smarter then anyone else as he is able to manipulate people rather easily as he can see or ascertain peoples weakness and prays on that i.e Dragov's loyalty to family, Theo's paranoia, Conleys obsessive need to finish Ferro's work and Kajikas need for revenge. He has also developed an ego it seems as he knows his plans will come to fruition and he has control over everything and that he's not afraid to take control away and that following orders makes such things predictable. Still the funny thing is the more Keener tries to take control the more he loses and having orders means control is maintained. It's funny really as it was his own hubris that caught up with him. He overestimated his own abilities and skills and under estimated his opponent.

i wouldn't be suprised is he's actually still alive. most of the time in WoNY he was bloviating about how ISAC can't be trusted and soo on and then in the end when he's dying, the only thing that confirms if he's dead is ISAC? kelso, doesn't check if he's dead and the player character just stands there

I'd would love if the the division 1 agent you play as becomes the new rogue agent you have to kill but he kills you and you become him again at the end

NGN question are you still going to do the what if the division game what happened to it?

I'm still holding out hope that the keener we killed in WoNY was a body double.

That how I leveled up my expertise level by defeating Aaron Keener Deleting my character, start over and over with a new character put all my points on everything except exotics need more exotics component to level up other exotics Eagle Bearer already at 22 🤔🤨😉👍

I hope the next game gives you a choice to go Rogue or stay with the Division. Let the actions you take during mission change your status

I really did not enjoy the direction they took Keener in the second game. The Division ends with nothing but *potential*. An extraordinarily capable, extraordinarily motivated individual with the means to... Well, to do anything really, with the protein printer, Tchernenko and Amherst' research. Then in comes The Division 2 and he is all about anarchy through genocide? His demeanor with his agents is great and fits the charismatic and manipulative villain we knew from the first game, but they do nothing to sell you on his evident descent to madness, to the point that he is facing an army, on an island, alone, and without escape route. In a way, I feel like they just gave his character arc to Lau. It made sense for it to be Keener who went after the government, even more so, to have a personal vendetta against the president. You can sort of argue that he does, through this whole anarchy thing, but his revenge isn't directed at them. For some reason the object of his haltred aren't those responsible for wronging him, but literally everyone else. Natalya so far has been fantastic and I hope they land her third act better than they did with Keener.

Had Kenner not fallen to Amherst's level by not being able to properly distinguish between saving the world and destroying it, I would have respected him more and may be I would have considered joining his cause.

I really don't believe Keener would let himself die so easily. He probably used a body double to keep everyone off his back because the black tusk and the division were doing better than he anticipated. So that way he can finish with what he had truly planned

14:10 What if keener forced dragov into working with him was a personal vendta because of this incident ? @NGN

I am still not convinced that was Keener that we killed.

I wanna know if us are the main character from the division one or we are one of the many divisions agents meaning if we agents go to do a mission it be us 4 agents doing a mission