Walter is definitely packing some BDE (big dad energy). Especially that one call when he says one of the companies doesn't value 621 but is going to talk with them.

@@garrulousgoldmaskalso that one scene where he tells him to “get some rest 621, and that’s an order”

@@garrulousgoldmask Yeah, and he even told Snail to check his attitude and "show 621 some respect"

​@@jokerledger5400Snail needed to be put in his place, ie. 6ft under

I prefer IV

Snail is a douche bag pos

Wait till you get to new game++.

@@gaunterodimm5974 Yeah, i know, im in the middle of NG++ atm, but i already saw the spoilers, it saddens me more. D:

How did Walter get caught?? Is he in Rubicon?

@@poweredbythemakyostar8896 Yeah, he was probably somewhere nearby, maybe in a orbital satellite. Snail implied they already know where he is when he incapacitated us. Aquerbus is pretty much the top dog at that point and even taken control of the PCA security system, it not hard for them to find out his location.

I can see Michigan and Walter being old friends/colleagues especially how Michigan just forgives Walter and 621s betrayal, Walter even paying for Iguazu and the other guy's repair cost.

funny how out of everyone in Arquebus mostly look down on Walter and 621, only Rusty consider 621 as a friend and an equal fighter

Great write-up! I'll also add that Sulla has been working for ALLMIND, while the Arena bio for Waltuh says "that man has greatly delayed our efforts." So he's definitely been going at it for a while and could have been the biggest obstacle to ALLMIND. Though exactly how long (and how he has the resources to fund a private war) are unclear, but could make for some awesome DLC/spinoff title.

@@garrulousgoldmask Ohh! So that is why there is static or glitches during Sulla's arena introduction.

The interesting thing about 621 Raven is that he's a Gen 4 augmented which is considered the most outdated model of AC augmentation and many people write off 621 as just being lucky or having half decent skills until they actually fought him and discover 621s an incredible pilot with a big example being Brass Ox who is legitimately stunned that 621 was able to fight 3 veteran Nest Mercs at the same time on even ground and responding in disbelief. Really goes to show that 621 is a legitimately powerful AC pilot relying more on skill than on their augmentations and winning despite the odds being stacked against them.

Michigan felt like a commander I would fight to hell and back for😢

Ngl cool theory that in the end, the Allmind Ending being almost all the best outcomes of both previous endings being combined (The threat Coral poses being eliminated - Walters' Wish - and Coral being able to "live" and not be used as a mere tool - Ayres' Wish) Tho I wouldn't say that it would resolve ALL problems with Coral and in fact may even create new ones all together Sure, no more self propogating world endingly explosive particles that could expand across the universe, external problem solved, but now you have the internal problem of the people who have been "touched" by the Coral and have a synched C-Wave response. Since we know that the "voice of Coral" is not unique to 621 as seen in the Liberator ending with Walter hearing one himself and seeing Ayre somehow, and in the Allmind ending we still hear Ayre talking despite being "one" with her now, it would probably be reasonable to assume that everyone can hear their own "Coral Person" now. And since there seems to be an implication that Coral also houses replica personalities of the people that were touched by it, it seems that depending on whose C-Wave is bonded to could lead to some rather unfavorable outcomes. Maybe clashing personalities since C-Waves like Ayre have the capability to actually affect the outside world. Probably a theme for the next AC Chapter. All in all, the Allmind ending does solve alot and is seemingly the best "at present ending"... but it feels like it is also a setup for an Expansion for AC6 (Maybe DLC or a 4 Answer type deal) and I cant honestly wait to see where this is going!

So now everyone has their own imaginary girlfriend It's truly is the best ending

Waltuh even built Jesse a robot so Breaking Bad is now an Armored Core-like. Bravo, Vince!

Walter is best dad, Michigan is best uncle, Rusty is best bro, Ayre is best brain-wife.

Who is Walter's friend is definitely a great question though it would make a lot of sense if it's also a voice from the Coral. I also think it's quite possible that Ayre's voice could have been the voice of Walter's mom. From what Iguazu tells us, the Coral seems to only have that one voice even if it goes by different names.

​@@garrulousgoldmaskWhen you get sniped by Snail and receive Walter's message after waking up he says something on the line of "621, a friend of mine's sent a request...... No, this one comes from me". That made me think that every time Walter said that he was hiding the fact that this was a personal misssion he was giving to 621, to keep things more professional since he is supposed to be a merc handler, not a mission giver.

​@@YewBadgerGood point!

​@@YewBadger Yeah, Ayre also points out after one of his "I got this from a friend" requests that she'd tracked his communications and he'd not talked to anybody else. Although there's always the possibility that his "friend" is the dead scientist who'd left him the legacy of keeping the Coral contained. Not that he's in communication with the dead, but that he views all the missions in furtherance of that goal as being part of that friend's last request. Just like after you both are captured and he's presumed dead he leaves you that recording requesting you finish what he'd started.

Or Walter never had a “friend” in the first place. It could just be a silly excuse to make things sound less personal. It’s like asking for “research purposes”, or for “a friend” because it’s embarrassing otherwise.

Coral is Stem-cells meet Oil

And there's also the data log you get in the Alt Attack the Watchpoint mission which says ALLMIND detected a Wave Mutation, right before you meet Ayre.

Plus lsd!

@@garrulousgoldmask Ok but my brain-wife calls me Studmuffin tho so checkmate.

Ok, but after she learns that she can actually pilot coral based AC's, such as the Ephemera model, then she might be able to inhabit a synthetic, cyberpunk type of body and transcend this way the "brain wife" status and become a "real wife" . A real, custom made synthetic/android body to suit all tastes 😏. So there's still hope for us.😉

The Fires of Raven ending is such a Bad End. You betray and murder your only actual friend, and destroy untold lives, and for what purpose? The idea you might be saving a crappy humanity that's pretty much on course to destroy itself anyways without any external help? You're kicking the can down the road and leaving yourself either dead or so isolated and alone that you might as well be. For all that it's stupid for Allmind to betray you in the end, I think she was right that connecting humanity and the Coral was probably the only way to save humanity in the long-run.

​@@Reldanliked the ending because you were avoiding galactic infection or at least infection on massive scales. In 4he new frontier, there will be new lives. New beginnings. And we shallnt exacerbate the sullied chances of mankind just to aid a newly found friend. The corporation's withdrawal means siphoning another population for resources, yes, but to aid the cause of universal survival, despite the selfishness of a many, Is a heroic act undeserved, but needed. It's a bad end. But not *The* bad end. Connecting the coral and the humans would be sufficient to aid humanity but at the cost of infecting everything else? Not necessarily. Now what I said would be righteous if it weren't for one or the endings allegedly corroborating the truth that coral would be more helpful than harmful, but in 621's mind , that most likely was the only viable option. Though yeah blowing up it again is kind of a dickish move, justificatifion aside.

in my head, in the fires of raven ending, raven gets the ending he went to rubicon to find. finish the job, undo the surgery, become normal again. and since being normal means he's no longer raven the undefeated AC mercenary pilot, he lives on in relative insignificance, somewhere in the galaxy.

Someone said it best, the first ending is about Legacy, righting the wrong of the past, and put a definitive end to the Coral war. We burn a system to do it, but it could be worse if Coral spread beyond the Rubicon system. The war for Coral would be a galaxy wide war, and if someone accidently ignite it, it could potentially burn the entire galaxy. We dont even know if humanity is that much at risk of extinction, so far it just 2 corps dicking each other and the PCA trying to tell everyone to behave with RLF fighting against their "oppressors" There is no good, bad, or true ending, it just how we feel about each. I like Walter, Carla and even Chatty, and they have sacrifice much to get here. Honoring their wish is the least I could do. For me this is the best ending, but the Liberator have more "Fuck Yeah" moments.

@@ReldanYou killed a planet to save a galaxy from getting super space nuke oil all over the place and potentially blowing the fuck up and killing everyone and everything in the future. Seems pretty reasonable. Sure you committed genocide, and everyone you'd known died along the way, but it's simply the nature of your job and they all knew what's at stake, and more importantly, you're not risking turning the whole galaxy into a powder keg.

He had already had it covered: making sure 621 earned all the credits.

i just found out you can kill swinburne anyway after accepting his request, fucking hilarious

1 MILF waifu please 😎

@raynalldoprime I think so too, they’re just consumed by the fire of Ibis (so no seggs though)

It's a good thing Ayre is easy to S rank (I took my sweet time and a lot of damage), I will never replay that stage again

Thank you! And I'm definitely planning more!

Thank you!

Thank you so much!

I don’t think augmentation works like that. All cases of pilots coming back after defeat are implied to be because they physically ejecting from their AC in time rather than any kind of brain downloading. G4 Volta stays dead after the failed attempt at climbing the Wall after all. So unless Walter got downloaded into ALLMIND I highly doubt he stands to make a comeback.

This could be true since the ibis weapons are autonomous except walters AC but it could be a misunderstanding in translation and only his mind is connected. Walter never appears to be near 621 on any missions so I doubt hes actually on rubicon or anywhere close

​most new gens can remotely control their ac

@awhellnah__ that’s specifically related to ALLMIND, I don’t know the precise details but it can seemingly absorb minds into itself or something like that.

You're goddamn right.

Lol

Also, Waltuh: "Say my name."

I'm planning on it!

Yep! There's also the arena entry for G6 who says he was inspired by Michigan's victories in Jupiter.

@@garrulousgoldmask oh, I missed that one. Thanks!

Except Snail, fuck Snail

There ARE heroes and villains, they're just all stained in blood. Rusty is a hero, and Snail is massive villain.

Yea if he made contact with coral and lived he may have had a new point of veiw😢

I'm thinking that too! And I think Carla was also involved with Walter and those independent mercs since Nightfall Raven and Chartreuse also use parts made by RaD, who also made the AC you start the game in.

Thanks!

Nah, he really cared for 621. All the dehumanization and distancing and masking and he still ends up taking pride in 621's capabilities, concerned for 621's general well-being, and urging 621 to find their own freedom.

Absolutely-there are so many great stories AC 6 sets up!

They always come in 2's in armored core...at least the more recent titles, such as 3, 4 and 5. Considering also that the AC 6's success exceeded their expectations, chances are they might already be preparing the sequel that adds a ton more weapons and parts on top of what we already have and a new story or continuation. At least I hope so.

Ahh The "permanent malfunctioning" approach

Yeah for me killing red gun six was too cruel when literally everyone else he knows is dead by our hand and his final lines of dialogue really makes you feel like a piece of shit 😢

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that!

@@garrulousgoldmask if they really took inspiration from Solaris then coral might be the most dangerous thing known to man.

@@Cold_Zero_The_Wise Then the Fires of Raven ending doesn't seem like a bad ending now

@@CharlieFillmore was thinking the same thing

@@Cold_Zero_The_Wise I haven't read the book so can u give a summary of how dangerous it could be?

What happens when u finish NG++? Does the campaign reset?

I think he's dead in the Fires of Raven ending too. He still ends up captured by Arquebus and re-educated, and it's likely that he was on Rubicon when the Xylem crashed into the Coral storage and died in the fire. Might have even sortied in the Hal AC but never got deployed or did but couldn't reach the Xylem before everything blew up.

He still ended up being "re-educated" though. Even if he lived, his fate is still a terrible one.

It's like Fromsoft having some resentment at Walter and decided to kill him 3 TIMES just for good measure

Fulfilling endings? Ayre could inhabit Coral based AC's or a synthetic cybernetic body for that matter, thus achieving physical form...😉😏.

​@@harkon6569watch their be a fan art where she has a plump hourglass figure and never loses it like every man's wet dream😂

There's a theory that Carla being young is a result of being subject to augmentation or extensive coral exposure since Sulla should be pretty old at the point we encounter him but still sounds quite young. Human+ pilots in previous AC games also aged very slowly. One pilot in the manga even looked like a preteen despite being a bona fide adult and showed next to no emotional responses.

You can find the video record for the Fires of Ibis at the very beginning of the Coral Convergence mission: Go left from where you spawn in and it's on top of one of the tallest ruined buildings-hope that helps!

@@garrulousgoldmask thank you for the help, I didn’t realize I was missing that data log until I saw your video

Thanks! And none taken!

If he actually met her earlier he might have changed his thoughts on Coral then but that is an interesting thought 🤔

He did make Jesse a robot so it wasn't too much of a leap!

Oh interesting idea-what makes you say that?

@@garrulousgoldmask 1. Nightfall's ac is similar to Walter's Hounds' in the trailer 2. 617 didn't excatly died like other hounds. His ac broke down like Rusty after using pulse armor so he could be alive? 3. Fought with the Caterphract 4. The place of the tutoital mission asks us to retrieve mercenary license is similar to where the trailer is.

What's your thoughts on this🧐

Lol

I also think that Walter and Clara lives longer Before the mission "Reach the Coral Convergence" Walter tells a story about two scientists. It feels like a very personal story. In the same mission, after this story, we can find prof. Nagai's AC. I think that prof. Nagai is the scientist who init fires of IBIS, who "set all ablaze" as Walter say. The second scientist, who delve into coral secrets, is Walter. So he feels guilty for the disaster and the deaths of friends and wants burn coral to the end. Walter called institute city as mausoleum of the sinners. Also he knows too much about RRI, coral, c-weapons and etc. It seems that more than anyone else. He instantly identifies cel-240 as a IBIS series and explains that it special for prevent coral disasters. I think that it too much for child from sketch. Also in 2 endings he pilot of IBIS series AC, If in the ending with the arquebus it can be assumed that they gave him this AC, then in the ending with ALLMIND it seems that it is his AC. I don't know, but it looks like Walter took this AC with him before the fires of IBIS. Ok, but who is the boy from sketch? We know only two character that connected with Jupiter - G1 Michigan and boy. Мaybe it's the same person. Walter knows G1 well and gets upset when Raven kill him. It is quite possible that Walter considers this a necessary sacrifice, but is still upset. When we start this mission after brief Walter say "just get it done. There's nothing more for me to say" Another interesting point before we choosing a beat red guns or vespes Walter talk with Clara and says "i think 621 got friends to worry about too". In fires of Raven he say something very similar "you found a friend". He probably has a friend like Ayre, and requests from a friend are not a cover. Before mission depth-3 Walter say that coral wait us deeper. Ayre say that it's like Walter know where coral and can't understand why he so confident in this. Probably he also can see the coral and coral voices like Raven. But he can to convince his friend that coral should be burn.

Ayre feeds you nothing, but RLF missions the first and second playthrough and gets cozy with the ALLMIND when she realizes what is happening. Clearly showing a preference in the outcome of the story. Furthermore, she drops you the moment you don't make the "right choice" and side to keep Carla alive. She is a self-interested mind parasite who lives off the host. Walter in a sense has already written off his life for his mission in Overseer and that's why he is more brazen with his mercs. Unlike Ayre who protects her life (coral) at all costs going as far to turn on her host in a moment's notice without the need for any kind of "reprogramming".

The chad ending to be honest, felt dirty doing the other endings, while i do get rusty and ayre is a great character and companion i just dont think killing carla (the person whos helped us the most in the playthrough) was the right thing to do