Who Is Jhin, The Virtuoso? || League of Legends: OST

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MarcoMeatball

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Жыл бұрын

Honestly have no idea if I'm right - it doesn't matter. This music is too damn good. ‪@EBMusicForTheMedia‬ is fantastic. Such a smart move using weaponry as an instrument. Left me so amped up.
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@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
Nope, turns out Jhin is truly bad to the bone. But every villain has their humanity...
@orangedream267
@orangedream267 Жыл бұрын
Nah, he just likes the number 4. >gunfire in music Didn't our boy Carl Orff do that first? And frankly I think in a more bombastic way. I guess rito gave it their best shot too, three, and four.
@atlopes1611
@atlopes1611 Жыл бұрын
He's the best artist I've seen no cap
@ghostshrimp5006
@ghostshrimp5006 Жыл бұрын
I mean when your skilled enough assassin you make it a point to blow your victims up into a violent viscera then sprinkle some illusion magic to give it the appearance of psychedelic flowers for an artistic flare. Gotta say my guy, that’s pretty bad
@Daniilloveminecraft
@Daniilloveminecraft Жыл бұрын
Bad isn't the right word, he is just ... misunderstood
@Razielts1
@Razielts1 Жыл бұрын
Jhin is a psychopath that's obsessed by the number 4, and fascinated by death, and how beautiful people look as they die, ( to him ). So he kills people to turn them into works of art, and he strives to outdo himself every time, to achieve a masterpiece. The dramatic part is highly tied to the killed person, making it feel like he stalks his prey for days, and studies them, so that he can create the work of art based on the victim.
@quinnholton773
@quinnholton773 Жыл бұрын
Marco: Jhin is a tragic character. Jhin: Only if blood came in more colors. Marco: 😱💀💀💀
@vincent686
@vincent686 Жыл бұрын
@Poor Quality Gameplay actually Jihn finds a certain exaltation in the death of his victims, going so far as to say that their death IS the art that he creates, and because of the magic infused into his bullets, the gore and brutality of the murder is visually changed to appear as beautiful flowers of crimson, but upon touching the illusion it fades to show you the true horror of his acts
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink Жыл бұрын
@@vincent686 Which makes him quite like what I imagine the Demons of Runeterra to be: their goal is to kill the victim at the peak of the emotion that they represent. Fiddlesticks is pure animalistic fear, Evelynn is pain that she enhances by juxtaposing it against the pleasure, Nocturne kills his victims in a nightmare(his ult) and Tham Kench draws it out with addiction consuming everything his victims hold dear before he finishes them off. Now our boy Jihn kills his victims when they are most beautiful and perfect...
@kubbley_5277
@kubbley_5277 Жыл бұрын
Homestuck moment
@Y0gSogg0th
@Y0gSogg0th Жыл бұрын
iirc before he met his "patron" who's providing him with the magical bullets and ofher equipment, it's implied he'd carve victims into flesh flowers, basically.
@CarinaKeKz
@CarinaKeKz Жыл бұрын
@@Y0gSogg0th nope, he had used magic infused daggers before. that and some other details are explained in the comics and in a Q&A they did with him after release. His father had a dojo with fast dagger throwing techniques similar to what Xayah does (Jhin learned but hated it)
@SebitorLP
@SebitorLP Жыл бұрын
Jhin as a character summarized in one sentence: In carnage, I bloom, like a flower in the dawn.
@lefteron6804
@lefteron6804 Жыл бұрын
Death is certain, but killing doesn't have to be ugly.
@kosmonaft
@kosmonaft Жыл бұрын
I live for ovation, you'll die for it
@Algayersz
@Algayersz Жыл бұрын
" They are gonna live, until they die"
@awesomepsume
@awesomepsume Жыл бұрын
4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@abdulhafyzhuzairy4696
@abdulhafyzhuzairy4696 Жыл бұрын
@@awesomepsume on the 4th comment too lmao 🤣🤣 technically 4th comment of this line
@Voibbd
@Voibbd Жыл бұрын
I can see how you would misread Jhin from this one, since the song is a killing from his perspective. The loading of the gun, the four shots, the peaceful silence. He sees the violence in the brutality he commits but also sees it as the highest form of art.
@Helyssea
@Helyssea Жыл бұрын
Jhin's theme is separated in 4 parts : The hunt, The kill, The silence, The beauty. Knowing that jhin is obsessed with the number 4 and think of taking a life as the purest and most beautifull art, i just find this theme outstanding overall.
@machintruc2328
@machintruc2328 Жыл бұрын
I quite agree, although i would have rather desciphered : The preparation, The Carnage, The Contemplation, The Hunt of the survivor. But still, quite agree. All the more with the obsession with 4.
@redroseibarahime8755
@redroseibarahime8755 Жыл бұрын
4 means death in japanese :)
@Eedden42
@Eedden42 Жыл бұрын
@@redroseibarahime8755 It's really more that the words for "four" and "death" have the same basic pronunciation, just with a different accent.
@Blegh2
@Blegh2 7 ай бұрын
This needed a 4 comment
@michaelcrabbe3722
@michaelcrabbe3722 5 ай бұрын
What’s interesting is the way Jhin see’s it all as a performance donning a theatrical mask over what we’ve been told is an average face
@horusemerald97
@horusemerald97 Жыл бұрын
This is quite fascinating to me. Because while you did not zero in on who Jhin really is, you did get exactly who Jhin WANTS others to believe he is: a tragic character turned to vengeange, motivated by some noble and powerful emotion. This is because, as others have mentioned before, his theme is "from his perspective": he's a deranged killer, but in his mind he's actually a misunderstood genius of an artist. Very very interesting how that came across.
@LeatherNinja
@LeatherNinja Жыл бұрын
I was going to try to say exactly this but you said it better than I could (also you said it before me anyway)
@gaeuchyaer5338
@gaeuchyaer5338 Жыл бұрын
"I'm misunderstood, beauty can't be evil"
@captaineflowchapka5535
@captaineflowchapka5535 Жыл бұрын
he don't want ot be scene as something else , he his just sad that people don't see it as well as he does . he is a monster but that doesn't mean he is ugly , in the horror and shock of people he see the marvel to the point of terror , in the panic he see his own excitation.
@operatorchakkoty4257
@operatorchakkoty4257 5 ай бұрын
He's not a deranged killer. He IS a misunderstood artist! >:)
@killerzer0x74
@killerzer0x74 5 ай бұрын
There are two things still that I am trying to fully understand...Yes I do acknowledge that to be solid way of looking at it....however to me there are still two holes. One, the shattered mirror...to me the mirror is a symbol for self-reflection, he is looking back at himself, his spirit looking at his physical self, the fractures of the mirror... a sign of inability to look back at himself, as if he had gone too far and is now so obsessed he cannot go back, or perhaps he looks at himself with self-hatred, as though he became the very thing he sought to hunt and now cannot stop... or he is looking back at the very day it began, a deep emotional moment that drives him forward, a tragedy which must be punished, the very first death he had seen... and then his very breathing......at the end of the teaser, all we hear is that deep, unsteady, long breathing...he almost reminds me of myself when I'm trying to hide fear or nervousness or any emotion really... or when I'm about to cry...like he's holding in tears... or, he could be holding in laughter now that I listen to it a bit more I still like my other idea more but it sounds more like he's holding laughter as though the moment was enjoyable...but he's hiding it...he may not want to be seen as a, or potentially not even become a psychopath but really deeply enjoyed that man's death...perhaps the very man who started his curtain callings...or just someone who hurt him or someone else deeply in some way...regardless it's all just various theories but Jhin is really one of the only few characters who's lore I enjoy
@slaynealbus6156
@slaynealbus6156 Жыл бұрын
If you play as Jhin in league, everytime he speaks it's always accompanied by an instruments and opera. But if you play against Jhin, you can hear him speak but this time there's no music accompanies his words.
@tempermen6032
@tempermen6032 4 ай бұрын
And when he hits you with an ability he kind of “Talks” to you, individually.
@VeylmanTheRock
@VeylmanTheRock Жыл бұрын
He'll let people survive if he failed to kill them in the perfect way. That's how much of a perfectionist he is. Also the many Fours and asymmetry of design is peak.
@thedanksoul
@thedanksoul Жыл бұрын
is the letting people live a reference to the comic? cause i dont remember jhin stating he lets people live like that
@donutdog4127
@donutdog4127 Жыл бұрын
@@thedanksoul he doesn't state it its more implied since jhin didn't shoot camille up until he lead her to the stage to give her the greatest finale but since it didn't kill her jhin let her run off. Since she didn't die on the stage jhin saw it as it wasn't worth.
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink Жыл бұрын
@@donutdog4127 Too good of a material to waste on an imperfect compisition.
@rustywind9602
@rustywind9602 Жыл бұрын
4!
@ninjatoriumnova2483
@ninjatoriumnova2483 Жыл бұрын
@@thedanksoul Yeah, in fact, he kills a woman who survived him years ago.
@albertoencinar95
@albertoencinar95 Жыл бұрын
Jhin see's killing as an art itself is an artistic obsessed psycophat very carismatic but also very scary
@jodacioriginals8077
@jodacioriginals8077 Жыл бұрын
so hes a drama queen
@albertoencinar95
@albertoencinar95 Жыл бұрын
@@jodacioriginals8077 exactly xD
@vincent686
@vincent686 Жыл бұрын
@@jodacioriginals8077 no no no, much worse, he is the lead actor, with a superiority complex
@rokasb9441
@rokasb9441 Жыл бұрын
There's an old movie, about such character, actually. About a man, seing art in pain and death, and exploring the depths of one's cou nciosness
@Ajehy
@Ajehy Жыл бұрын
@@vincent686 a classic diva, a Prima Donna.
@JudgeAngelz
@JudgeAngelz Жыл бұрын
"They call me mad, all artist are mad." -Jhin I love this quote from him
@azeTrom17
@azeTrom17 Жыл бұрын
Jhin is among the darkest characters in the league universe....and he's nothing more than a man. A generic serial killer. The true horror lies not in his work, but in his perception of his own work. He's obsessed with beauty, only to him, the most beautiful thing to him is death. There are two sides to him. The first is the version of him in his own head. The angelic choruses, the beautiful violins, the soothing voice and dramatic movements.....in Jhin's eyes, he's glorious, beautiful, serene. His theme is his perspective. The beginning is the preparation, the middle is the kill, and everything else is pure ecstasy. Jhin isn't grieving. He's reveling in the wonder. The reason the music is so sad is because the audience is meant to know how awful his work really is. Then there's the other side of Jhin. The version of him that everyone else sees. While he sees his work as being beautiful, in reality, it's horrifying and grotesque. So much so that one of the most influential characters in the league universe pursued him for years....and was driven utterly insane by the unspeakable, twisted carnage Jhin left in his wake. You guessed that Jhin is conflicted. It makes sense why you'd think that, even though it isn't accurate in this case. You were picking on on these two sides of him, assuming that there was conflict. As it turns out, the two sides are completely separate--the heavenly world in Jhin's head, and the nightmarish, demonic hell he's creating for everyone else as he performs his sick art. There's a reason this theme is so beloved by the community. It's equal parts heavenly beauty.....and nightmarish horror. Masterfully summarized in a single piece.
@Gofex1337
@Gofex1337 Жыл бұрын
I would HARDLY call him a Generic serial killer. He's a very special, exceptional serial killer.
@azeTrom17
@azeTrom17 Жыл бұрын
@@Gofex1337 fair
@kikow3792
@kikow3792 3 ай бұрын
Who was driven insane by him?
@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
What's of course curious here is that despite being incorrect in terms of context. The big thrust of this channel is the idea that you can theoretically be right any time you have an interpretation. Using your imagination to consider what something sounds like is a fun exercise. But, im also thinking now...What if...Do we know why he became what he became?????
@silentcalling
@silentcalling Жыл бұрын
The true history, identity, and purpose of Khada Jhin, which is nothing but a stage name, is largely unknown. He has a long and stories past involving several other notable characters, which in large part he serves as an antagonist.
@sehguhnai8223
@sehguhnai8223 Жыл бұрын
The self hatred is very interesting, because whilst Jhin doesn't feel remorse one of the stories states that Jhin's appearance causes him "pangs of self conscious loathing". Seems like you were still on to something, as the imagery of the broken mirror also reflects this
@sehguhnai8223
@sehguhnai8223 Жыл бұрын
Oh, also, the instruments used, a violin, with 4 strings, and a choir probably divided into 4 parts , SATB
@WhyAllTheGoodNamesTaken
@WhyAllTheGoodNamesTaken Жыл бұрын
@@sehguhnai8223 It’s actually known that Jhin does not like his appearance because it is far too plain and average. Jhin’s appearance is so average that he would be harder to identify without the mask than with and this upsets him. Jhin wants his art to be seen and recognized not only for the arts value but his value as the arts creator.
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw Жыл бұрын
So far we lack a lot of information of his past.
@collinjerez
@collinjerez Жыл бұрын
I think a theme that most league players forget, is Kindred's. Just two instruments, yet perfectly portrays the character. I would love if you took a look at it.
@davesevil3247
@davesevil3247 Жыл бұрын
I think it's great but to understand kindred the teaser story is needed as well
@jolfouv9406
@jolfouv9406 Жыл бұрын
i'm realy stuned by how this theme is forgotten. It is, according to me, one of the 5 best theme in league but no one talks about it.
@firstwaddledee9182
@firstwaddledee9182 Жыл бұрын
YES
@VERG646
@VERG646 9 ай бұрын
​@@jolfouv9406u mean one of 4?😅😅😅
@koyomiararagl
@koyomiararagl 4 ай бұрын
wouldnt it be because jhin is literary a fan of the kindreds XD
@julienpitot6691
@julienpitot6691 Жыл бұрын
You were a little off the mark on who Jhin is: He's not a hired assassin, he's a sociopathic serial killer who tries to make every murder into a performance: in his twisted mind, a bullet wound becomes a blooming flower and such. He literally says "this would be easier if blood came in more colors" He didn't have a tragic past, he was never kind, he never lost a loved one: As far as we know, he was always a monster. It's more clearly shown in the "Awaken" cinematic/music video, where you can see him surrounded by an audience of corpses. He has set traps everywhere, waiting for the police to show up, right on cue. He doesn't do this against his will: murder is art to him. It's all he wants. The violin and opera isn't meant to show his sadness, but the "beauty" of his atrocities. GREAT VIDEO THOUGH! I loved hearing your interpretation!! You could try listening to some of the voice lines of the champions after the music, the voice acting is always stellar, and gives a great understanding of who the champion is. Suggestions for other great League themes: Ornn (try watching the Teaser trailer first) Camille (She also in the Awaken cinematic alongside Jhin) Aphelios and Diana both have great vocals in their respective themes... I'm partial to Renata Glasc, she has a very complex character, I'm curious to see how much you can get from her theme alone. But if you are in the mood for something a little more spooky, Fiddlesticks is amazing (though you should watch the trailer before the theme :P )
@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
Cool!!! Fascinating sympathetic music in some ways. My streak is over. I’m retiring. 😂
@marcrobinos5023
@marcrobinos5023 Жыл бұрын
technically he got hired by Ionian higher up after noxian invade for exchange of letting him out of prison
@julienpitot6691
@julienpitot6691 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcoMeatball Noooo theres so many more cool themes you should try listening to ;_;
@UndeadLromor
@UndeadLromor Жыл бұрын
@@marcrobinos5023 I mean he isn't exactly hired imo he got freed from prison to kill but he doesn't get paid for it, his murders are his payment, he does it to enjoy himself he even has a quote saying "Until they stop me, I will keep going." So yeah basically the higher ups unleashed a monster onto the world just so said monster could do their killings for them.
@nordiclight8453
@nordiclight8453 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcoMeatball Absolutely not, you can't quit before I get to see you listening to Fiddlesticks theme! xd If you do watch it, you have to film it the first time you see it tho, there is so much you get to feel only the first time
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 Жыл бұрын
That description would probably the illusion Jhin would want to maintain. A suffering misunderstood artist whose art both plagues and fulfills him. There is some agony and pain by its sheer morally empathetic absence. A pain he blissfully ignores but is still there. The pain of not being normal.
@EliasKaydanius
@EliasKaydanius Жыл бұрын
"I'm misunderstood.. Beauty can't be evil"
@bojidarprokopov9762
@bojidarprokopov9762 Жыл бұрын
I love how technically wrong yet sort of correct your reading of his character is. For example, he did love the woman with the flowers, except he was in love with her dying body twisted by his bullets.
@kileythayer
@kileythayer Жыл бұрын
It may have been a little off the mark, but your analysis opened my eyes to the possibility that his theme switches between Jhin's and his victim's povs. The first part of the song is the actual assassination/performance taking place, represented by the gun, and voices (the victims), and the violin (jihn). Then the moment of slow sadness and regret is his victim's final thoughts as they watch each other get assassinated one by one. Then eventually Jhin joins back in, who acknowledges that sadness and finds intense beauty in it. When the violin joins he never quiets the choir, instead, the violin leads them and dances around in their voices. Finally, once the voices stop, Jhin also stops in perfect timing with them. Yet another perfectly orchestrated performance by Jihn the virtuoso.
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 Жыл бұрын
What is ironic about Jhin is despite his extravagant mind and mask...said mask has nothing to hide since without it he looks so plain you couldn't recognize him from a crowd.
@LiloDemon
@LiloDemon Жыл бұрын
When I used to play league, Jhin was one of the characters I liked the most. He is a very authentic character in League of Legends because of his thematic of a not comprehensive artist. I think the duality you feel in the song can be shown by the broken mirror and the Mask. Because he has a line:" Everyone has a mask, I've only created mine." And yeah, he is obsessed by the number 4 and if you make a link his name letters J,H,I,N on a keyboard you make a number 4. And 4 in Japanese culture can be pronounced "Shi" wich also means Death.
@treyatkinson7564
@treyatkinson7564 Жыл бұрын
Same with Chinese, shin is a word that can be used for 4. It is uncomfortably close to the word death, in pronunciation and written formats, that they try to avoid saying it lest they gain bad luck
@gerelttsolmon6510
@gerelttsolmon6510 Жыл бұрын
In lot of Asian countries there lot of places there is no 4th floor or number 4 in their streets etc
@donzdu3097
@donzdu3097 Жыл бұрын
@@treyatkinson7564 so true, in china, some of the buildings don't even have a fourth floor.
@blubboiii7706
@blubboiii7706 Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD YOU CAN DRAW THE NUMBER 4 BY TYPING HIS NAME THAT'S GENIUS
@ArenJohnston
@ArenJohnston Жыл бұрын
Jhin has been my main since his release. When the teasers started releasing everyone was so confused as to what was going on. What does he even do to his victims? Then the trailer came out and it became clear as to why flowers and trees were sprouting out of his victims. They actually weren’t. We were seeing it all through his twisted interpretation. He had everyone’s curiosity and attention from the get go and has never really lost it because of how strong an impression he left through his character alone even when he fell out of favour gameplay wise for a short while.
@swolegolisopod7340
@swolegolisopod7340 Жыл бұрын
He actually uses some form of illusion magic so people do see the flowers and stuff until they touch it and get left with the reality of people who were completely eviscerated
@TheIrrelevantYT
@TheIrrelevantYT Жыл бұрын
I think Marco's headcanon on the tragedy of Jhin may be a little close. Jhin always strives for a perfect kill. So many things, even the smallest of mistakes may sour the feeling. The setup, the timing, the act and performance must be nothing but perfection. That must be where Marco hears the emotional strain from the music. Jhin is experiencing anxiety, excitement, anticipation as he gets closer and closer to the finale. EVERYTHING. MUST. BE. PERFECT.
@Birkes3
@Birkes3 Жыл бұрын
Jhin is simply The best written character in league of legends from his story gameplay and Music
@SIMEN480
@SIMEN480 Жыл бұрын
Wolf: "Lamb, tell me a story." Lamb: "There was once a pale man with dark hair who was very lonely." Wolf: "Why was it lonely?" Lamb: "All things must meet this man, so they shunned him." Wolf: "Did he chase them all?" Lamb: "He took an axe and split himself in two right down the middle." Wolf: "So he would always have a friend?" Lamb: "So he would always have a friend." Keep this quote from a character centered around the duality of life and death in mind, when thinking of jhin
@ilhomanforever78
@ilhomanforever78 3 ай бұрын
beautiful
@Pup_Polydon
@Pup_Polydon 8 ай бұрын
I love that jhin's obsesion with 4 also is heared in the start: opening the gun, empty the gun, reload the gun and close the gun.
@mariusgreve5106
@mariusgreve5106 Жыл бұрын
Jhin comes from a life of poverty and suffering, he sees himself like a Lotus flower Blooming from the muck. Because of this he sees life as ugly but his “art” his killing can bring beauty to the world. “Life is ugly but your death doesn’t have to be”
@Revenant-oq9ts
@Revenant-oq9ts Жыл бұрын
The song is meant to evoke a sense of longing, or loneliness. Marco wasn't off about what Jhin feels in that regard. He was off about the why behind it. He's lonely because he feels others don't understand how he sees the world. He believes himself avant garde.
@pance2992
@pance2992 Жыл бұрын
I really love this interpretation of Jhin based on the music and imagery in the teaser, and I can completely see exactly what gave you those feelings of self-hatred and longing for something that is forever lost. The violin at 8:30, which comes right after the "reflection on the past" as you called it, almost gives me this sense of the present creeping up on him, things getting out of control, him losing grip on his life. And when it becomes even faster at 8:50, to me it gives off spiralling into complete insanity, losing his mind due to the horrible things he's been doing for so long, and starting to get a twisted outlook on them, even starting to enjoy them. Losing the ability to even see other people as anything other than a canvas to spread his "art" on. If you interpret the violin as the voice of Jhin's mind, and the choir as the narrator, then the violin abruptly ending on a high note suggests that Jhin no longer feels regret, he no longer looks back, and he can't wait for his next victim. Then, right after you got that glimpse into Jhin's downfall into remorseless insanity, the narrator comes in with a low hum - "This is what this man has become". It's sad, it's scary, and it's unsettling. Obviously, as others have mentioned, Jhin's past is not really explored much in the lore, and instead the interpretation of "His theme is what a killing is, in his mind - a masterpiece" is probably most widely considered the correct one. But I think it's beautiful that music can be interpreted in many different ways, and in Jhin's case, I think it's even more encouraged. He *is* the virtuoso after all, and interpreting his music, trying to get into the mind of the composer, I think is pretty much what you're supposed to do with this one. *Especially* because his past is unknown, and, as far as we know, his theme might just be the only clue we've got.
@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
Im glad you liked this and thank you for your insights! You’re right that there is no true “wrong” when it comes to music interpretation!
@itjustworks2993
@itjustworks2993 Жыл бұрын
It would be dope af if u could react to Kindred next. Their thematic is simply too good
@surgrus4367
@surgrus4367 Жыл бұрын
Its not good lol
@Meibu1
@Meibu1 Жыл бұрын
@@surgrus4367 Why is it not good?
@david_8916
@david_8916 Жыл бұрын
@@surgrus4367 you're right, it is amazing
@progdragon9218
@progdragon9218 Жыл бұрын
I think that, at 4:00, exactly at the part where the violin begins playing again, you can definitely hear the passion. As you described it, the violin is a very virtuosic instrument. The fact that it sets in right after the gun cocking and -shots really shows that there's a connection between the artistic value of the instrument and the intended use of a gun.
@dead9580
@dead9580 Жыл бұрын
Minute 4 😳 jhin reference??
@LightningXIII6366
@LightningXIII6366 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, Jhin is obsessed with the number 4 From his skills to the number of his normal attacks in-game, they all hit 4 times (except the 3rd skill tho) The number 4 is represented in this composition too from the tempo to the beats
@gabrieldossantos1116
@gabrieldossantos1116 Жыл бұрын
The mark on enemies when he or allies deal damage lasts for 4 seconds.
@khono2349
@khono2349 Жыл бұрын
the trap reveals enemies for 4 seconds, so the 3rd skill kinda still has a semblance to his 4 obsession
@princeapoopoo5787
@princeapoopoo5787 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the number 4 also associated with death in various cultures? Dunno if that's a coincidence or not.
@khono2349
@khono2349 Жыл бұрын
@@princeapoopoo5787 im pretty sure its not a coincidence
@Doublejho
@Doublejho Жыл бұрын
his name is spelt by inputting a 4 on your keyboard, too
@imbigbilly1352
@imbigbilly1352 Жыл бұрын
I think the beautiful music mixed with the gun shots and cocking noises are to blend the way Jhin sees something has horrific as taking another life and the beauty of art.
@treyatkinson7564
@treyatkinson7564 Жыл бұрын
Bro, every time I check out the next video, it's heartwarming to see your channel has grown Aside from that, it feels like someone is dedicated to a specific ideal, something that they view as elegant and beautiful
@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Trey, means a lot. I love this channel.
@tomasramos4281
@tomasramos4281 Жыл бұрын
Love how Riot implements the characters story in their music, using the gunshots as a melody almost takes us inside Jhin's mind. (I think "Old King Allant - Demon's souls" would be a really nice ost to react btw)
@funkliner31
@funkliner31 Жыл бұрын
most people don't know that jhin *is* a paid assassin, he's paid to continue his "art" by the corrupt nobles in piltover and noxus IIRC. Also I'd recommend listening to Taliyah's theme
@mrwallace7645
@mrwallace7645 Жыл бұрын
He's working in secret with the Navori council if they didn't retcon it since last time I checked. That's also how he's able to obtain and repair his gear as it's made using Ionian Hextech (which we haven't heard of ever since) since he can just ask the highest authority in Ionia for new parts.
@johnpauljonesisabadass8134
@johnpauljonesisabadass8134 Жыл бұрын
@@mrwallace7645 where the fuck did you read that bullshit from
@taliyahofthenasaaj7570
@taliyahofthenasaaj7570 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this recommendation!
@sionkikuchi1807
@sionkikuchi1807 Жыл бұрын
I love this little series youre doing! This is a unique format for me personally and I really enjoy it a lot
@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Did it by accident but I'm glad it is appreciated. I was trying to move from blind reacts but in the context of character themes it's genuinely fun.
@dollblossom_
@dollblossom_ Жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS SO MUCHHH, the idea of guessing what ones like through their song alone is so amazinf
@mariapazgonzalezlesme
@mariapazgonzalezlesme Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing this time and I was like, this dude have class. Looking back at this theme, you can notice the odd mix between Jhin charges the bullet cases synching with the violin melody. And then, the melodic chaos starta at 3:48 --- the sound of gun shooting and the violins gets higher and higher --- as is the person is sensing a moment of happiness, of sastifaction of his job, he views his killing as form of art.
@s1mplysucc607
@s1mplysucc607 Жыл бұрын
He is one of the few pure evil character in the League universe. It is interesting to see you interpreting it this way given that you haven’t read the lore. Me knowing the lore interpreted the first part at the pov of his victims, fear, menace. The violin parts is him romanticizing his killing. The woman and the man you saw in his teaser are actually his victim, in the moment they got shot, through his eyes. Jhin in the story thinks killing is an art, and he use his masterful planning to create the “perfect” masterpiece.
@s1mplysucc607
@s1mplysucc607 Жыл бұрын
@Poor Quality Gameplay Jhin is a drama queen after all!
@SalvadorTorres-nb2ik
@SalvadorTorres-nb2ik Жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel today after watching the Pyke video. Currently going down the list of your other videos. Super cool stuff! I've seen people already recommend Kindred, so I'll put my list of OST: Aatrox, Aurelion Sol, Neeko, and Qiyana.
@bangchanns
@bangchanns Жыл бұрын
subscribed because you reacted to tartaglia's battle theme, my favorite character and musical piece from my current favorite game. and now you're reacting to jhin's theme, one of my favorite LoL characters and musical pieces from my main game up until recently! just perfect
@emilyg9918
@emilyg9918 Жыл бұрын
Dark Cosmic Jhin is my favorite theme for him. It's so epic. His original theme is really captivating too.
@kunibertrandolf1886
@kunibertrandolf1886 Жыл бұрын
I like how kind you made him in your interpretation simply since no "sane" person would guess that the whole theme is an instrumental version of murder as an art form. The sharp dissonance of the real events to the thing literally playing in Jhins head is amazing. The music talks of a glorious, amazing intro, a moment of silence to collect the spirits and then a carefull, emotional recollection and installation. In reality, it is a gruesome murder, followed by the murderer standing in awe and then getting off on the memories and bloodbath before him.
@ionaskualexander1255
@ionaskualexander1255 Жыл бұрын
The first time I heard Jhin's theme I immediately thought of Perfume: story of a murderer. U know that movie where a guy murders to create the perfect perfume. Jhin has the same vibe
@carlospastorsempere4433
@carlospastorsempere4433 Жыл бұрын
this series of yours remind me so much of the Fantasia movies that disney did a bunch of years ago, that noone liked but they were a masterpiece. Just a music telling a storie without any dialog, cause it dont need it. Leting the music guide you through the experience. So good.
@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
Ya!!!!! I loved fantasia 😳 - that’s the goal. Glad you like it.
@glu9862
@glu9862 Жыл бұрын
I love when you describe the meaning and your understanding of the visual and audio elements, thats epic
@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
Glad you do
@stevsan3050
@stevsan3050 Жыл бұрын
according to lore when he is not in his "finery" he is a pretty normal guy who is great at the arts and is a violin virtuoso. But in his suit he is a murderer who likes to make the murders beautiful, his weapons make illusions of flowers on people when they are hit.
@johannesbottiger1754
@johannesbottiger1754 Жыл бұрын
Would LOVE to see you do Sylas, and check out his lore/cinematics afterwards as he has some of the deepest backstory of all characters in the game. His theme is one of the all time greatest also, and really reflects his personality and story.
@BrosTheNugget
@BrosTheNugget Жыл бұрын
I actually kinda saw it as he loves carnage and chaos. When he fires the gun, the smoke of the gun is shown being the smoke from a woman's red lips. As he shoots a person, suddenly their death blossoms into a tree with branches upon branches and roots sprawling out. The music seemed to be saying that on the outside he's just shooting a gun, but in his mind he was leading an orchestra through their final chords as he fired the round that ended a person's life. The background of a shattered mirror can mean a few things, one being that the person feels disgusted with what they've become and another being that they are twisted and tormented. To those of us outside, it's just a process: find the target, aim, fire, reload. To him, he's creating works of art through utter destruction. Thanks for the video, as always!
@gergelycseri9180
@gergelycseri9180 Жыл бұрын
I've had a lot of fun watching these videos you made about league characters and their theme musics. You could include a bit at the end where you read up on the character and who they really are comapring it to what you thought. Keep it up I'm hungry for more!!
@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
Ah I could do that on video too, good idea.
@kollide3140
@kollide3140 Жыл бұрын
the most scary thing I've heard about jhin was about aurelion sol telling jhin "What if you had a bigger canvas" or so along the line
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 Жыл бұрын
With this theme we see what Jhin sees...or wants us to see. The illusion, the smoke and mirrors, the grand & ecstaticly deluded mirage of a megalomaniac dream. Death is his muse and the lives of others is his canvas. So it has to end up perfect! The self made illusion is perfect. The reality is much uglier by contrast.
@Ichigoeki
@Ichigoeki Жыл бұрын
There's something almost ASMR-like in the initial gun cocking motif, can't get enough of it after all these years.
@Tana_ka
@Tana_ka Жыл бұрын
Omgg thank you for reacting to Jhin's OST, he's one of my favorite character from LoL!
@Cwronaga216
@Cwronaga216 Жыл бұрын
You should definitely check out more of the music video cinematics for the game. Also I mentioned it in the last video but you should definitely check out some of the character osts from The Killer Instinct game and you should definitely start with the Arbiters theme from that game as the titular character from Halo made an appearance in Killer Instinct with a unique track made just for him
@BurritoPower
@BurritoPower Жыл бұрын
That was great! Jhin's theme is one of my favorites in the League soundtracks! Loved your interpretation, even if a little off the mark, can't get them correct all the time :D
@Phantasmguy
@Phantasmguy Жыл бұрын
Your description of Jhin is so amazing, I wanna use it for a character in one of my DND games
@cellover_
@cellover_ 2 ай бұрын
it's the purpose of instrumental music, one has stories themselves and feels different meanings in this masterpiece. Your interpretation is so intriguing me
@queendread4427
@queendread4427 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Jhin likes painting himself as a villain in a victim's tragic story
@undeadtoast7554
@undeadtoast7554 Жыл бұрын
Jhin’s release was one of the most beautiful releases that league has had TO DATE. The amount of showmanship and bravado they gave him in his voice lines, his music, his trailer, it was all done so meticulously and has to be one of my favorite memories of my long history with this game
@moek25
@moek25 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video! When I frist listened to The Virtuoso I already knew who he was and could see how this psyco saw the world, but seeing you guess who he is blindly is amazing!
@WeirdTroll666
@WeirdTroll666 Жыл бұрын
Damn, this sounds beautiful, also i love your breakdwons!
@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@isajohoff
@isajohoff Жыл бұрын
What's fascinating is, whilst you're off the mark in the big picture, you correctly deduced that Jhin can definitely be interpreted as a more tragic character. Yes, he's a serial killer who takes joy in his "craft" - he lives for the rush of the performance. But his relation to his art isn't just that of an artist, it's an addiction. He's a slave to the killing. Perhaps he could have been saved from this life, but he's too far gone now.
@araragisenpai4088
@araragisenpai4088 Жыл бұрын
FOUR!
@jcon2060
@jcon2060 Жыл бұрын
I'm many months late to this... But i loved your analysis and how it has progressed over the months and across games.
@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
:)
@sweetmachaq1602
@sweetmachaq1602 Жыл бұрын
I love how the composer added Jhins theme with number 4 , you can hear the gun clicks go like 1,2,3,4 over and over again plus you can hear when the beat rapilty reapeats it always stops after the forth with it always winding in a gun shot.
@attackontitan6097
@attackontitan6097 Жыл бұрын
Really nice reaction, I recommend you to watch Yone's theme its pretty good and with a different style.
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw Жыл бұрын
You know, it's fitting that Marco missed the shot for this theme because what Jhin sees is a blooming flower in his performances. Reality, however is blood, chaos and death.
@ionaskualexander1255
@ionaskualexander1255 Жыл бұрын
It's always nice when KZfaqrs listen to their viewers. Really glad you listened to this piece.
@sleepisgood2936
@sleepisgood2936 Жыл бұрын
In the cinematic jhin is shown killing people while beautiful roses or art are forming in them, this is because its jhins pov what he sees in what he is doing is "art" it the comics it was described that jhins victims were molded and bended to the point that you cant recognize them it was so bloody and gruesome but is also barely forming a flower or something
@B.Scruby
@B.Scruby Жыл бұрын
Your interpretation of Jhin would make him extremely happy and validated. But nah mate, Jhin ain't a hitman, he's straight up a serial killer. He doesn't get paid for this stuff, he's literally an art snob. Narcissistic, self-absorbed, etc. He's more the Hannibal Lecter without the Cannibalism part but with extra OCD. He's extremely intelligent, extremely famous even before people found out he was a serial killer, and very perfectionist up to the detail on who his victims will be. He doesn't kill just anyone, there needs to be symbolism in everything he does and he does it meticulously; from picking who the victims are, the time and date they die, the manner in which they die, the time elapsed from the time of the kill to when people find the body, what the scene will look like when people find the body. Absolutely no one was safe, didn't matter who you were, if Jhin picked you, you WILL die. Why does he do this? Because FOUR. Everything he does has to do with the number four. Sounds insane right? He terrorized the Ionian provinces for so long, i'm talking decades across (20 years, maybe more iirc), that people actually believed he was a demon. So the Kinku Order (literally a brotherhood of magic ninjas) was sent to destroy this creature and imagine the horror they felt when they found out that he was a human who just loved killing because the scenes he left for people to find were VERY VERY GRUESOME that the only plausible explanation was that it was a demon doing these things. So there's no humanity there. He was ecstatic when the Kinku finally figured out his identity, like an artist that does public performance art finally getting the credit he thinks he deserves. Man was so perfectionist that it took months for an order of magic ninjas to catch him because he also planned for the escape. But he wasn't sad when he finally got caught, he was happy because in his mind, people finally will have a face to the "unknown artist" that gave the people the "beauty" of his "art". He actually considered the cat and mouse game a "part of his performance", challenged the ninjas to stop him before the next kill.
@mark42881
@mark42881 Жыл бұрын
The only issue I see with this interpretation of the music is that you say that the story revolves around Jhin, when it probably wouldn't. Jhin sees himself as a director, while his victims and the people they leave behind are the players in his play or orchestra. Maybe there is a character that's wallowing in his self hatred on a quest to avenge a lost lover that this song is encapsulating. Jhin isn't the main character this song is for, Jhin is the one that is directing these moments of tragedy and drama you hear in the song. Even in the cinematic, we see how most of the time, the camera isn't on Jhin, its on his victims.This song depicts someone else's character arc that Jhin is actively shaping and twisting to form what he thinks is beautiful.
@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
I can totally see that. Very interesting.
@revlover3797
@revlover3797 Жыл бұрын
I interperted that ending as like an exhale or a sigh after he is done relishing in his work, right after the climactic bit.
@KermitLeFrogg
@KermitLeFrogg 8 ай бұрын
As a Jhin main, i liked the perception that you gave him, the reasoning behind his acts, but as many others say, he is a serial killer, someone who sees death as art, thus the magic infused bullets that create flowers, trees, things that are naturally beautiful. His main land being Ionia, where magic flows everywhere and the nature his highly respected, he tries to add more beauty in his land, by making people his canvas. But nonetheless great video, been enjoying the past few vids, keep up the good work!!
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 Жыл бұрын
My favorite quotes from Jhin are: "You inspire me!" "Places, everyone, places!" "You have way too many lines!" "I'll sell my soul to you....if you'll shut up!" "Oh, heheh that looks awful. Who made you wear that ugly thing?" (Not 100% the same quote!)
@Fedorchik1536
@Fedorchik1536 Жыл бұрын
I will not suffer that ugly miss.
@bansame3261
@bansame3261 Жыл бұрын
Quite the fan huh
@Jan-nl6kq
@Jan-nl6kq Жыл бұрын
Hes making fun of Tahms small hat. XD
@59347351
@59347351 11 ай бұрын
its so amazing to me that the composrers of this peace chose to portray who jhin wants others to think he is and they succeeded at it, but in that quiet part of the song i think they wanted to show that there is a vastness here, a lurking, a true monster hiding somewhere behind this fasad of a person, this music only shows us who jhins wants us to think he is, who he sees himself as, but in reality, he is evil, a liar, a killer and deep in hsi heart he knows and loves it.
@notnotagoodguy9600
@notnotagoodguy9600 Жыл бұрын
There are some truly evil people who even though they have done horrible things they feel no remorse. Not because they believe what they did was right, but because they do not care. Be it trauma or be it faulty wiring in their head, they find beauty in suffering. He found the the most awe inspiring part of life, it's end, and the making of such beautiful art, it can only be described as Jhin
@Tomehawk95
@Tomehawk95 3 ай бұрын
Being a huge Jhin lover and a fellow musician, it was very interesting to see you parsing his personality through the music. Once the song became choral, seeing you take a perspective on pain was understandable and relatable. I think the key to understanding would have been to think back to his title of Virtuoso; it’s the struggle of making sure every detail is right. For those who don’t know, Jhin is a serial killer who found elation in his first victim, and wanted to share that joy with the world by turning his victims into art. However he has a strong case of OCD, especially in relation to the number 4, and had to make sure that every single detail was perfect. This is why, during the vocals, the violin comes back in. He fully embraces the struggle, being completely absorbed in the details enough to flesh out a plan that will span weeks at some times, so that he can show his artistic abilities to their fullest.
@DanSto11
@DanSto11 Жыл бұрын
It's so much fun to listen to someone who really knows music appreciate the gorgeous music, and also hear their take on what they think that character is. Missed the mark on he's personality this time, but fun to see how you interpret it
@KatShaw
@KatShaw Жыл бұрын
I have always loved that even in his music the 4 theme is ever present. Everything they do with him they make sure it's there even if we dno't see it at first.
@Enderspider
@Enderspider Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do one of these for kindred, these are incredible to watch!
@panzerkampfwagen8439
@panzerkampfwagen8439 Жыл бұрын
I think the most interesting thing about Jhin is that everything we've seen so far, in game and in lore when he's present, is that we've only ever seen things from his perspective. The traps/mines he uses, which resemble flowers, are hideous amalgamations of blades and razors that literally shred whoever steps on them - but we've only ever seen bright colors and "beautiful" shapes made out of them. Whenever he speaks in-game or uses his ultimate skill, music starts playing. Even in his character splash art, you're not looking at him - you're looking at a mirror, from the perspective of Jhin. Hinting at the possibility that everything, in game and in universe, is just Jhin's sick, twisted game.
@nagasimp1855
@nagasimp1855 7 ай бұрын
the way an interpretation can change how you see a character, Jhin, the widow maker, the capitulation of masterpieces, the creator of beauty is transoformed int Jhin the marksman, the standalone, the one who survived and continued living
@Link-kr2bc
@Link-kr2bc Жыл бұрын
I see that many here dont seem to know this but the flowers and the art is not just in his mind. His weaponry is enchanted to create an illusion which is what we see. If someone was to try to touch the illusion or something it would collapse and reveal the true horror and gore
@glu9862
@glu9862 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your content its very nice
@Addeand
@Addeand Жыл бұрын
This just makes the times you were right so much more powerful, like how pike or Viego are presented in their themes
@holitron
@holitron Жыл бұрын
You go over a lot of music from games I play.. good taste 😉
@botchubi1731
@botchubi1731 Жыл бұрын
DUDE THIS IS AWESOME! so cool to have this new kind of perspective from someone going "blind" into a character. You may not get some points of the character right of course due to the lack of context and the artistic way of the cinematics don't help to much. I really love this, i belive that the things you said were honest and true. The music i belive it take us through the moments of jhin (a psychopath with tendency to the theatrical) making a "performance" and to summarize, theres a line in game that says "the moment before the shot, is painful". So YES the sadness and melancholy that YOU noticed was imtended and real.. just in a more twisted way. I really love this, so cool to have someone that doesn't play trying to give form to the character
@MarcoMeatball
@MarcoMeatball Жыл бұрын
Aw! Im glad you like it!
@MattJDave
@MattJDave 9 ай бұрын
Another comment noted it too, but it's fascinating seeing you become sucked into Jhin's twisted perspective. To himself, he really is a tragic figure, an artist so compelled by his pursuit of beauty that it is a compulsion, despite said art being, y'know, murder. On the outside, he's a truly monstrous serial killer, but in listening to his music, you get caught up in the melodrama within his own head.
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094
@v.emiltheii-nd.8094 Жыл бұрын
Also there's something I should've mentioned before, aside from what I similarly mentioned last time. "Like his music and "murderous art form" all you saw and heard is the beautiful illusion he strove for! Something that he isn't but somehow veeery deep down wished he could've been in another life! Although he doesn't hate the 'current setup' either".
@jodexstar2238
@jodexstar2238 Жыл бұрын
Four bullets, four bounces of a grenade, lotus trap that reveals enemies for four seconds, four letters in his name itself, everything is a four about Jhin and I love finding them everywhere.
@twelfthyem2047
@twelfthyem2047 Жыл бұрын
Its very interesting how you could get such a viewpoint based on music and imagry it may not be 100% acurate but it is fasinating none the less
@Hbizzjohnson
@Hbizzjohnson Жыл бұрын
I remember reading somewhere that each section represents how jhin sees the kill as a theateical performance, the beginning is setting up and going on the hunt, and when it climaxes and settles down its him enjoying the beautiful scene, and it represents what he is seeing, and so on
@VeylmanTheRock
@VeylmanTheRock Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this!
@iamwafflo3551
@iamwafflo3551 11 ай бұрын
i just love the 1-2-3-4-reload at the start, it encapsulates the methodical nature Jhin has, no bullet wasted, everyone perfectly used. Then the harmony in the background relating to him seeing this as a form of art.
@jhinnnn8430
@jhinnnn8430 Жыл бұрын
I love this vid Jhin teaser makes me cry everytime, too beautiful
@joelaguila719
@joelaguila719 Жыл бұрын
Ahhhh~~~ the ecstasy of opening night....
@grantharriman284
@grantharriman284 Жыл бұрын
Jhin is V from V for Vendetta meets the Joker from DC Batman. There is a deranged elegance to him and an obsessive attention to detail that makes perfection a legitimate possibility. Unfortunately if you are witnessing that perfection it is probably you who is the victim.
@thesaviorofsouls5210
@thesaviorofsouls5210 Жыл бұрын
I do love that you get a character wrong now and then, at least in some way since you did pretty much get his perspective right as some have already said. But it proofs your...perceptiveness in music i guess? Shows youre the real deal and not just someone who reads the backstory and then proceeds to project it onto the music. Love your reactions man
@Azayel
@Azayel Жыл бұрын
There is another amazing music peace named: Dark Cosmic Jhin | Login Screen. Really amazing. Ty for the video
@calinstan3403
@calinstan3403 Жыл бұрын
I think the pain you talk about is not felt by jhin, but more by us the spectators, seeing death made as a show, even if you want to stop it, you can't, you have to stand and watch. The show must go on
@atreus3006
@atreus3006 Жыл бұрын
Although Jhin is a psychopathic murderer, he still is an artist. As you could have guessed, his theme represents one of his performances, which I personally divide in: 1) The Hunt: Here Jhin is playing with his victim, as you can hear from all the times he reloads Whisper (his gun), waiting the perfect moment to strike the killing blow 2) The Kill: The fact that here all the recharging and shooting sounds are the same makes me think that, if this was a cinematic/video, the final shot would be represented in different perspectives. 3) The Silence: Jhin has completed his mission, but the best part is yet to arrive. This, although being a really long part, doesn't last very long during the performance, being concluded in a matter of seconds. 4) The Beauty: As planned, the magical bullet starts shaping the victim's flesh into a twisted, cruel masterpiece
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