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Andrew Marr reveals why Keir Starmer's background could make him "our man" and the next Prime Minister
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A new biography reveals Keir Starmer's background, from working class roots to a career in Human Rights Law to leader of the Labour Party, via Brexit and Jeremy Corbyn. Andrew Marr explains how Starmer's life history sets him apart from predecessors including Tony Blair, and how the Labour leader's experiences shape his politics.
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@momo8200
@momo8200 3 ай бұрын
It shouldn't be forgotten that Starmer has as much to thank Boris' incompetence, arrogance, and laziness for Labour's current standing in the polls. People are voting against the Tories rather than for Labour.
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
Apart from the tiny minority of vested interests who realise Starmer is the best hope for a continuation of right wing ideology (Marr being a prime example) noone is voting for Starmer.
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 3 ай бұрын
​@@totalvoid6234give it a rest are you a Tory political payed blogger your all over this comment board spewing bile
@callyyeadon2653
@callyyeadon2653 3 ай бұрын
Watch the Labour files
@mrD66M
@mrD66M 3 ай бұрын
That must be a new type of ballot paper that has a "if you want to kick tories out put a X here" 😂
@alextettenborn269
@alextettenborn269 3 ай бұрын
You'd have said the same thing about Corbyn and Miliband though and look how things turned out for them
@regarded9702
@regarded9702 3 ай бұрын
If I find someone who loves me like Andrew loves Starmer I will be a happy man.
@mp71001
@mp71001 3 ай бұрын
He’s definitely besotted 😍
@celestesmith6060
@celestesmith6060 3 ай бұрын
Treat em mean keep em keen.
@tonyf9984
@tonyf9984 3 ай бұрын
It's just the contrast with the Tory ghouls ...
@yuchoob
@yuchoob 3 ай бұрын
And if I find someone called Andrew Starmer who loves me like he loves you, he will be a happy man.
@davidneverdave
@davidneverdave 3 ай бұрын
Just shows the left wing bias of the BBC. All its ex presenters go on to do pro-Labour podcasts/shows.
@markeightfourone8693
@markeightfourone8693 3 ай бұрын
I wish I could get as excited about Starmer as Andrew Marr seems to be . . .
@matthewtrow5698
@matthewtrow5698 3 ай бұрын
The way I sum this up is that Keir Starmer is ruthless in the pursuit of whatever goal he sets his mind to and cares not what people think - very thick skinned. He is an incredible political operator, that's for sure. Managing to turn around the fortunes of the Labour party in 4 years to the point where they look set to win is no small feat. However, it is clear that the Tories are gifting Labour a near certain chance of taking the prize. A majority of the electorate is at the point where anything has to be better than what we have, but there's clearly little love for Starmer as a leader. Does there need to be? Time will tell, but it is certainly refreshing to have a potential PM that isn't involved in the cult of personality, Lord knows we've had enough of that nonsense over the last decade...
@mrD66M
@mrD66M 3 ай бұрын
"there is clearly little love for Starmer as a leader. Does there need to be?" No. A *competent* leader does not need love - what they need more than anything is the respect from those they lead. Once the last vote goes in, it ceases to be a popularity contest, and then it becomes a matter of clarity of vision, communication, intent and a positive, focused, steadfast energy. Thatcher wasn't loved - she was respected (I refer to her specifically because she is the last person IMO to be a competent leader of the UK, despite being despised by many). A leader who craves the cameras and the public (cough dePfeffel cough) will easily lose focus and get distracted. A leader who is constantly obsessed with projecting strength/confidence will lose sight of the future for small gains in the present.
@fang_xianfu
@fang_xianfu 3 ай бұрын
One thing Starmer seems very good at is delegation. A lot of members of his team have made large policy announcements and speeches of their own. Their performances at the despatch box are just as good as Starmer's and sometimes possibly better, without him ever seeming upset about that. He has a solid team around him and they're pulling in the same direction. Since Blair people seem to have thought that being Prime Minister is more about being presidential, but it's not, it's about leading the team. That's what I respect least about the Tories since Boris. Even if you just take their ideology as given, they're so incompetent that they can't even implement that vision without constant bickering in the media and arguing over the agenda. Slagging off the Supreme Court and crapping on the constitution instead of trying to pass laws that actually work. While simultaneously doing less work than ever before. If they had the exact same policies, but they were competently implementing them, they might stand a chance, but even people with conservative views know that this group of imbeciles won't be able to implement them.
@user-eg4dv1bm2e
@user-eg4dv1bm2e 3 ай бұрын
It's always the government's to lose not the opposition's to win.
@goonerboz6023
@goonerboz6023 3 ай бұрын
Hes lied on everything he ran on so need to stop him now
@naziphone7260
@naziphone7260 3 ай бұрын
Why would the electorate love him - he will ditch any policy that he thinks might give the Tories an attack line instead of defending and selling policies he believes in.
@alexzarifeh8848
@alexzarifeh8848 3 ай бұрын
Kier might know who he is, but do WE know?? What is Labour offering to change? There needs to be some hope, a mandate for change. What would a SK gov prioritise?? It’s all wishy-washy vagueness at present. Obsession about winning is not enough. There has to be a mission we can galvanise around. Continuously underwhelmed with Kier Starmer’s Labour. This election will definitely be a case of the sitting government losing rather than Labour winning it through appeal. 😒 We can & MUST do better than this!!!!
@SimplySketchyGT
@SimplySketchyGT 3 ай бұрын
Because they have not published their manifesto. PR has been adopted as party policy, as have giving 16/17 year olds the vote (no taxation without representation) Party policy includes better trading relationships with the EU. A focus on healthcare and education. These aren't wishy washy sentiments, they're literally party policies that were voted on by the party.
@PNETriffid
@PNETriffid 2 ай бұрын
@@SimplySketchyGT 'A focus on healthcare and education', means absolutely nothing.
@John-gr5tx
@John-gr5tx 11 сағат бұрын
Labour offers nothing! No polices that he will admit to. Just empty retartic that avoids answering any questions!
@John-gr5tx
@John-gr5tx 11 сағат бұрын
​@@PNETriffida sniper takes a focus on a target before killing it.
@Robert-vw3od
@Robert-vw3od 3 ай бұрын
Jeremy Corbyn was a proper labour politician on housing healthcare, education equality in this country. Whilst there will be things I disagreed with him about immigration drugs on international affairs He was not a statesman but he was 100% correct as a labour leader on this country.
@yongjinnkim9207
@yongjinnkim9207 7 күн бұрын
As the number of lawyers involved in politics increases, the prospects for the working class become more bleak.
@DCI-Frank-Burnside
@DCI-Frank-Burnside 3 ай бұрын
Just a guy who likes chilling out with a beer, watching football with his diverse friendship group and listening to *insert popular group or singer here*. A relatable guy.
@lesliescottw
@lesliescottw 3 ай бұрын
or the guy who turned a blind eye to jimmy savile
@grahamegaw-mc3bw
@grahamegaw-mc3bw 10 күн бұрын
@@lesliescottw Something which Andrew Marr failed to mention- or chose to ignore.
@andrewwebb4635
@andrewwebb4635 3 ай бұрын
I cling on to Andrew Marr as a tiny beacon of support for Keir Starmer! I desperately hope he is right about Starmer despite the facts of him dropping practically everything hopeful he’s stood for. We need a change of direction and it looks as if Starmer will be the captain but surely all of us now doubt that he and Rachel Reeves have it in them? I simply don’t understand why the Labour Party doesn’t own the housing problem. To me, the lack of secure housing for young people is the single biggest factor against the young entrepreneurs of the future taking the necessary risks to try new things out. We need hundreds of thousands of really cheap council houses. A post-war programme to get everybody properly housed and on their own feet.
@buzzukfiftythree
@buzzukfiftythree 3 ай бұрын
I don't sense that he's not owning the housing problem, but until he becomes PM, nothing can realistically be done. It will not be easy; the coffers are not just empty, the national debt is huge.
@plebjames
@plebjames 3 ай бұрын
@@buzzukfiftythree he is not making a case for it now, meaning he will not have the democratic mandate to do anything radical. He needs to tax the very richest and borrow to invest. The analogy of a household budget is often used. Well, households get mortgages to buy (aka invest in) houses all the time
@salamisfamagusta2918
@salamisfamagusta2918 3 ай бұрын
The answer to your doubts is that both mayor parties are controlled by the same paymaster and consequently and when is too late the country will have to pay the penalty for these treacherous peoples sick decisions.
@poquelin1823
@poquelin1823 3 ай бұрын
@@buzzukfiftythree Appreciate the sarcasm. The coffers are full by the way, with bodies of Palestinian women and children!
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 3 ай бұрын
We are talking about the Labour party which under Blair somehow managed to build less council housing than the Tories. Starmer is on record of wanting about 70% of people being home owners...Labour have little interest in increasing the supply of affordable housing aka council housing
@mikeyb4610
@mikeyb4610 3 ай бұрын
A very coy yet accurate summary of the man who is on track to be the next UK PM….Andrew’s years of experience and expert knowledge of politics has marked this presentation as more of a prediction!…Starmer is what the UK needs to lead and guide it out of its current convoluted state of perpetual demise bought on by Conservative miss management…hopefully we will return to this piece after the next GE to tick all the relevant boxes… Thank you Andrew ..more please
@tarscase7653
@tarscase7653 3 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 3 ай бұрын
Expert knowledge? He's an establishment voice box and generally clueless
@archvaldor
@archvaldor 3 ай бұрын
"Andrew’s years of experience and expert knowledge of politics has marked this presentation as more of a prediction!" Wow, you are one really annoying human being.
@thecrimsondragon9744
@thecrimsondragon9744 3 ай бұрын
Both Conservatives and Labour have lost my trust. Neither will get my vote. Starmer is little more than a weasel.
@caraynemalham8640
@caraynemalham8640 2 ай бұрын
My father always liked an EXPERT to....an Ex is a HAS BEEN ...and a sPERT is what W⚓️ers do
@wesleygold7997
@wesleygold7997 3 ай бұрын
You've pinned your colours to the post Andrew! By God I hope you are right because we are in perilous times!
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
Only have to ignore every single fact available to believe it too.
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 3 ай бұрын
The whole of the MSM tries to paint labour as the worst
@ghostbro2721
@ghostbro2721 3 ай бұрын
@@totalvoid6234lmao I bet you would have us bring back the lettuce
@socialgadfly5305
@socialgadfly5305 3 ай бұрын
“Perilous times”, caused by the Tories, and you really have to be an amoeba 🦠 to vote Tory. “The only way is up”, comes to mind.
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 3 ай бұрын
He's going to be as right as his claim that the Iraq War would be bloodless
@meldanvers
@meldanvers 10 күн бұрын
Opportunist is a word that springs to mind.
@LuisMartinez-og8bk
@LuisMartinez-og8bk 3 ай бұрын
You Andrew, you really moved me with the last words of your video. Thank you.
@Dani20240
@Dani20240 8 күн бұрын
Vote labour, worker party, liberal democrats, independent.
@AndissKevlar
@AndissKevlar 3 ай бұрын
I'm excited.. I want someone in office who is now focused on effective leadership moving the country towards a more left of centre position, than the mess we have at the moment...
@naziphone7260
@naziphone7260 3 ай бұрын
Except he isn’t offering that at all unless he is going to u turn on everything if he wins.
@grayssportsalmanac85
@grayssportsalmanac85 3 ай бұрын
Starmer is nowhere near left of centre. He's been further right than the Tories on some policies ffs.
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
Ok, but why focus round an ultra far right dictator?
@Morning404
@Morning404 3 ай бұрын
Starmer is a liar and a authoritarian.
@HoneyBAJR
@HoneyBAJR 3 ай бұрын
Kid Starver is also a liar.
@JimPea
@JimPea 3 ай бұрын
Andrew's second video titled "Who is Keir Starmer, really?" in less than six months, and truth be told, I'm still not sure I know who he is - except not the leader of Tories. That seems to be all that matters at this point. I won't be sure who Starmer is until he's started the job, but if you think he can rebuild this country without taking radical progressive action, well, that's what it'll take to get ourselves off the track the Tories have set us on.
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
Just pay fucking attention to who he is, he didn't spring from air two seconds ago he's been around making things worse for people for decades now.
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 3 ай бұрын
​@@totalvoid6234what worse? Fighting for removal of the death penalty great job I say
@bwright227
@bwright227 3 ай бұрын
Watch the video for goodness sake. Or read.
@TheGreatLeslieBand
@TheGreatLeslieBand 3 ай бұрын
Spot on. Agree with all of this.
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 3 ай бұрын
How can this country be rebuilt without taking progressive actions?
@antonyware9887
@antonyware9887 3 ай бұрын
I think we can all see who Starmer is, what’s the mystery ? You’ve been around professional politicians so long you’ve lost your sense of direction
@josephjones1093
@josephjones1093 3 ай бұрын
Very much enjoyed this, thank you Andrew!
@andrewhague1521
@andrewhague1521 3 ай бұрын
Starmer may not have charisma, but he does have personality. Charisma you can learn, it's a performance art. Personality is the truth of who a person really is. Give me personalty over charisma any day.
@VinceLammas
@VinceLammas 3 ай бұрын
Boris Johnson’s “adopted persona” is deliberately designed to hide his true character and personality behind a smokescreen of apparent charisma.
@joebowden4065
@joebowden4065 3 ай бұрын
Yeah ok
@Happinessis_74
@Happinessis_74 3 ай бұрын
A well considered piece. Thank you! I hope for Britain’s sake that Keir Starmer is the next PM.
@aclark903
@aclark903 3 ай бұрын
I hope for Britain’s sake he isn’t.
@gos4343
@gos4343 3 ай бұрын
🤦‍♂
@englishsteve1465
@englishsteve1465 3 ай бұрын
That word "considered" is what Starmer is. He might not be left enough for me _but_ he is a man who genuinely lived a life, much of it a working class life, before entering politics at 52 and his law career, despite making some decisions I would not have, was very successful. Career politician he is NOT and he _has_ gotten Labour to the edge of power. We must see, but I am hopeful.
@englishsteve1465
@englishsteve1465 3 ай бұрын
@@aclark903 Yawn
@gos4343
@gos4343 3 ай бұрын
​@@englishsteve1465 The problem is it is Labour in name only. Starmer: Tory donors. Tory PM put him up for his Knighthood. Former Tory Chancellor of the Exchequer endorses him to be PM. Tories crossing the floor ( one openly bigoted). Mandelson openly saying they lied to 550,000 members to get their man Starmer the leadership. Starmer himself pronounced “Labour are the real Conservatives”. A Blairite advisor said Starmer is “Telling Thatcherites it is safe to come home to Labour”.Your reservations about him would be fine if he was in the LDs of the Tory party but he has usurped a Democratic Socialist party for the establishment. Turning the UK into a US duopoly party. Now a *Labour* party is espousing austerity after it is a known failure of a policy. Both Starmer and the Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer using the economically illiterate “credit card” line shows us all we should need to know. Even the IMF admitted they got it all wrong with austerity after 2008 crash. I’m afraid your hope is a forlorn one weighed against the empirical evidence against Starmer.
@Da1Dez
@Da1Dez 3 ай бұрын
Bridge Keeper: STOP! What is your name? KS: It's Keir Starmer MP of Holburn and St Pancras... Bridge Keeper: What is your quest? KS: I seek to become Prime Minister of Great Britain. Bridge Keeper: WHAT IS A WOMAN!? KS: Umm..... well.... I.... *waaahhh!*
@sharifsazal
@sharifsazal 3 ай бұрын
On the Corbyn question, why do centrists and rightists get horrified when anybody has any association with Jeremy Corbyn?
@Weejie2011
@Weejie2011 3 ай бұрын
There are a few on the left who are disappointed with him too. He was very clumsy in practice and easily outmanoeuvred.
@Titus9508
@Titus9508 3 ай бұрын
Likely an end to Lobbying.
@belindamay8063
@belindamay8063 3 ай бұрын
@sharifsazal. Corbyn disappointed me. He just relied on tribal support. He coasted it.
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 2 ай бұрын
Fear. He scared the bejebus out of their cosy little lives.
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 2 ай бұрын
​@belindamay8063 really? The rallies and speeches he made all over the country were 'coasting'. I have never seen such diverse and enthusiastic rallies in my lifetime and I've been following Labour for 60 years. They were not tribal at all, they were diverse in age, background and ethnicity.
@garnGad
@garnGad 12 күн бұрын
Modern party leaders or successful politicians, don’t vote for what they believe in, but vote for what is beneficial to them in their efforts for power and their success. No integrity ❤
@fang_xianfu
@fang_xianfu 3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure how many times you can make this same video, Andrew. Starmer has given enough interviews, made enough speeches, written enough policies, that it's obvious what he's about, what he cares about, and what he's delegating to his team. Maybe this will be the last one?
@gio-oz8gf
@gio-oz8gf 3 ай бұрын
You do know that you're not forced to watch it, don't you?
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
No because if his voicee can suppress democracy by 2% then that's a good job well done.
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 3 ай бұрын
Starmer is simply establishment. Marr even goes near to saying there won't be change with Starmers govt
@MissRG_THFC
@MissRG_THFC 3 ай бұрын
I have pre-ordered the book. I have been patiently waiting for this election. Can't wait for a change.
@jeremymanson1781
@jeremymanson1781 3 ай бұрын
My patience wore out a long time ago. Right now I'll clutch at any straw.
@MrBaritone38
@MrBaritone38 3 ай бұрын
He's not the labour leader for me. He's a "Blow with the wind" Politician who flip flops when to his benefit.
@GJAllKnowing
@GJAllKnowing 3 ай бұрын
Kier Starmer, a hollow man without a spine
@running4fun863
@running4fun863 14 күн бұрын
Wow! Andrew Marr, my favorite what a brillent introduction to Keit Starmer .
@Dragonsitter
@Dragonsitter 3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the book. It’s ordered! I am from similar roots made it out of mining community via grammar school scholarship. Have been a teacher of children and teachers, and I want everyone to break the class ceiling! I will trust him to do us proud HIS way, not by flashy gimmicks but by careful, assiduous planning. Governing is not sensational hype it’s careful thought and steady nerve. I want nationalisation et al but it’s not in reach just now. Build for all our futures. I’m 78+ and I have faith for my grandsons
@willrelf1377
@willrelf1377 3 ай бұрын
Younger people don’t see a positive future though. We need radical change now, something Starmer will not deliver.
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 3 ай бұрын
​@@willrelf1377you can only deliver radical if you have the people behind you. My now dead parents voted for Atlee after the war then slowly switched to Con, the dysfunction during the 60s 70s left a lot of scars as did the Thatcher years on me
@Dragonsitter
@Dragonsitter 3 ай бұрын
@@willrelf1377 that’s not surprising after 14 negative years. But I believe the Labour Party will start to turn the corner and work towards a more positive outcome. The Democrats in US have already done that turn. It can be done 😘
@Dragonsitter
@Dragonsitter 3 ай бұрын
@@SlowhandGreg I lived though that Welfare State birth. With vision like that, we can do better. Lol we can’t do worse than the last 14 miserable years! I watched Starmer talk about the folks who brought about change before and I believe he has the steel to emulate that. 😘
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 3 ай бұрын
@Dragonsitter Marr gives me hope, the politicking to get here is painful, if you look into Starmer in detail he appears principled yet very pragmatic but utterly ruthless A story I heard the other day was that Sue Gray has banned WhatsApp and confiscated phones at shadow cabinet meetings and is being used as a sounding block as to how policy could be implemented successfully
@kenmay1572
@kenmay1572 3 ай бұрын
He may not have charisma but he has a good legal brain. Give me a brain for a PM over the likes of charlatans like Johnson and Cameron every time. Another plus is that he didn't attend Eton, a breeding ground for the entitled born to high political office.
@LuffyDaGoat
@LuffyDaGoat 3 ай бұрын
Good legal brain huh. It’s a shame has a human rights lawyer he failed to recognise that Israel withholding water and electricity to the Gazans breaks human rights laws
@khar12d8
@khar12d8 3 ай бұрын
Isn't Starmer being a liar/ opportunist/ charlatan right at the top of his charge sheet? You clearly don't read Owen Jones 😅😅
@rw31415
@rw31415 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I can't understand all this obsessing over an individual. Are we bothered about what sort of person one's brain surgeon is ? One's pilot ? Starmer gets it from both sides - idiots like McDonnell & all the government-leaning press.
@catherinemartin6258
@catherinemartin6258 3 ай бұрын
👊✊
@peterclarke7240
@peterclarke7240 3 ай бұрын
Starmer basically understands the assignment: His job is to get Labour to win. He knows that preaching to the choir doesn't work, because Left-wing Labour voters are heavily concentrated in cities and tend not to vote, despite it being in their best interests (although this is often down to confusion over WHERE students are allowed to vote), verss the Tories, who's voters are spread out all over the shires and tend to vote. He also saw that Corbyn essentially SCARED tory voters, particularly the light-blue, small c voters, into voting against the Lib Dems and Labour. His job, essentially, is to walk into the stables without scaring the horses. And so far, he's doing a very good job. I don't agree with the positions he's been forced to take, but equally i accept that his job is NOT to appeal to Labour voters on an ideological level, but on a "do we want to get the Tories out before they do any more damage?" level. He's also got some serious heavy-weights in his cabinet, unlike Sunak, Johmson, Truss, or even May, so he must be doing SOMETHING right.
@kylewhittle6565
@kylewhittle6565 3 ай бұрын
Andrew has done more to humanise Kier than anyone else. I respect the fact that Kier (unlike most politicians) came from a truly working class background. You may not like him, but the experience of poverty gives you grounding in life unlike Jacob Rees Mogg!
@lizziemcbizzierobin
@lizziemcbizzierobin 3 ай бұрын
Erm why do you admire this about Starter?? He does nothing for working class people. He works for himself (and Israel too). Starmer is nothing but an ambitious narcissist.
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 2 ай бұрын
It's not that working class though. Frankly I don't care. Sorry about his Mum though. I don't care about people's background, I care about what they stand for as adults. Still nice to see a fan club for him .
@stalfithrildi5366
@stalfithrildi5366 3 ай бұрын
Did this get reuploaded cos too many people were saying 'he's a knob"
@Weejie2011
@Weejie2011 3 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the Knob Mob.
@theoblongoldfish
@theoblongoldfish 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your analysis, he's not going to set the world on fire but he's clearly principled and has a strong moral center and I agree that he's a good step in the right direction for the UK
@Morning404
@Morning404 3 ай бұрын
He's a fraud and authoritarian.
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 3 ай бұрын
Principled? Has a moral centre? 😂
@jeremymanson1781
@jeremymanson1781 3 ай бұрын
There will always be those who would prefer to get on their high horses whilst preserving the purity of their particular dogma and just criticise from the sidelines. Against this, KS sees his current assignment as 'win the next election'. He is known to be totally focused on winning. I have heard he is a bit like a football manager. If a player is not performing he will bench them without a second thought. If the current formation isn't doing it then he will change it. He loathes being powerless in opposition, as there is so much real work to be done which only a government can do.
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 3 ай бұрын
@@jeremymanson1781 so tell me what changes will Labour make?
@jeremymanson1781
@jeremymanson1781 3 ай бұрын
@@keithparker1346 If I knew that I would place a bet. My pure guess is Labour want to prevent the Tories undoing everything. They have published an 83 page discussion paper on devolving power away from Westminster to the Nations and Regions. It includes replacing the HoL with an elected second chamber. The problem is that Labour will have 100 days to convince the public they can make things better. That will involve sorting the NHS, Social Care, the justice system, the delapidated schools, the polluted rivers and beaches, the overflowing prisons, the poor infrastructure and housing stock, the lack of affordable homes, establishing the UK Wealth Fund and GB Energy, reforming employment law etc etc... so there is fat chance of fitting in constitutional reform!
@DipakBose-bq1vv
@DipakBose-bq1vv Ай бұрын
I was a member of the Labour Party since 1976 to 1993. I left the Labour Party when I have realized that The Labour Party is for Pakistanis. Then Blair, the spiritual son of Thatcher, came and ruined socialism completely. Today there is hardly any difference between the Conservative Party and the Labour Party. Starmer is the same as Blair, no difference.
@bigo7748
@bigo7748 27 күн бұрын
"Labour Party is for Pakistanis" The most ridiculous and racist part of your statement, the rest of it bizarrely made sense......
@VeronicaS50
@VeronicaS50 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful ! Thank you Andrew for showing us WHO Keir Starmer is. Fingers crossed for the Labour Party....we definitely need a change which only Keir can deliver. 😊
@peterazlac1739
@peterazlac1739 8 күн бұрын
You have made a strong argument that Starmer is an opportunist with elastic views depending on the constituency he us addressing. He cannot escape the criticism that far from defending individual rights under the Nuremberg Code for individuals to be vaccinated or not with the experimental toxin he argued that the Conservatives were not being fascist enough. This alone should rule him out as a Prime Minister.
@stankarpenko
@stankarpenko 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@tonyboss5026
@tonyboss5026 3 ай бұрын
Andrew! Thank you for this video! I had my doubts about Starmer, but this summarised deep delve into his origin, shows me he has come from a place that a significant percentage of British citizens and residents come from! So, he knows what it means to be broke, hungry, hard working, and struggling to make ends meet for your family! Oh, and being looked down on!
@headgirlblues
@headgirlblues 3 ай бұрын
We are in serious trouble when we believe in a man who has reversed every promise and policy he expounded to get where he is. Who can reverse a loudly-expounded position on a dime. Who repeats economic fiction, presumably paving the way for yet more years of damaging austerity. One who calls the leader of another nation prior to a vote in our Parliament. Then there's the TriLateral Commission. Who is he, indeed - and in whose interests is he working so assiduously, because it is not mine, nor anyone I know. Which State are you referring to? I get that we're desperate, and the choices are slim, but ultimately, we get the politics we deserve. Especially when we keep voting for those whose principles are so slippery.
@sarahjaneross2918
@sarahjaneross2918 3 ай бұрын
A Starmer party is terrifying to me... 😢
@Noellegable
@Noellegable 3 ай бұрын
And kier isn’t slippery?
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
But he's anti democracy and that's all that's needed for the bought media to support him.
@Simon-xc6iy
@Simon-xc6iy 3 ай бұрын
My word Andrew he is a wrongen. Dont take my word for it, sit back and report on the nightmare thats waiting for the UK. He will pave the way for the extreme right.
@myzigc3036
@myzigc3036 3 ай бұрын
PR for Starmer,very generous of you Andrew! Too generous in my opinion. This is not a man of change which is what this country desperately needs. He is ‘more of the same Man’ which is exactly to the letter what we don’t need!
@jeremymanson1781
@jeremymanson1781 3 ай бұрын
Yes, all the outward signs point that way. However KS has said that Labour HAVE to be more radical than New Labour ever were and that it will need two terms to even begin to turn things around. I think KS is painfully aware that, unless Labour make some major changes to the way the UK is governed, the Tories, once back in power, will simply trash everything Labour has succeeded in improving.
@chrismeese3666
@chrismeese3666 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your resume of Kia ‘s life story. I am finding it so difficult to choose a candidate to vote for in the next General election. I like millions are so busy living we don’t have time to read and study all that is required to learn. I am so grateful to KZfaq and a group of guys that do all the research and reading then give me hopefully honesty edited summaries. One of this I trust is you. I don’t always agree with you, however the info you gave in this report will help me make a better decision. The United Kingdom deserves a stabilising factor which should not be based on popularisation. The kind of leader we need to be a hybrid politician who hopefully will balance out the wealth between the poorest and the richest without alienating industry, yet right the wrongs the past leaders have made. The work is going to be hard and not everyone will be happy and on top of that balancing the books will be so difficult as now since Brexit Unfortunately, to me Britain looks like the poor neighbour neighbourhood of Europe. Once again thanks
@archvaldor
@archvaldor 3 ай бұрын
"I like millions are so busy living we don’t have time to read and study all that is required to learn." If you can't be bothered you shouldn't vote. You are precisely what is wrong with this country. Pathetic.
@johnwright9372
@johnwright9372 3 ай бұрын
Too many people are misinformed by the media who reduce elections to a beauty contest.
@oscarmoxon102
@oscarmoxon102 3 ай бұрын
Really great deep dive, love this introduction.
@vincilo8835
@vincilo8835 3 ай бұрын
Actually think he's gonna make a good PM. Tony Blair described Labour voters base can essentially be divided into two groups: those who come from a more working-class background and would traditionally vote about, and those who were born more well off but interacted with socialism later on and agreed with the labour ideology. Both with their own downside though, with the first half often contained in the idealogic limitation, while the second didn't really experience the life of grassroots people. Keir has been both. He would be able to get over both limitations and be a great PM who understands what people really need while being able to work flexibly.
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 3 ай бұрын
Socialism and Blair 😂
@SimplySketchyGT
@SimplySketchyGT 3 ай бұрын
I was born middle class, have been lucky in my position and I would never vote tory. I even went to private school!
@anyatranter5588
@anyatranter5588 2 күн бұрын
Im beginning to like him better now knowing he came from humble beginnings.This man sneers at his class view of the world seeming to suggest that the toffs dont have one.
@simonperrins5175
@simonperrins5175 3 ай бұрын
I really enjoy Andrew’s analysis, it always hits the spot!
@katharinedavis4947
@katharinedavis4947 21 күн бұрын
Thank-you for this background. I didn't really know much about Starmer . This has filled in some gaps.
@sunnysjwinter
@sunnysjwinter 3 ай бұрын
Ultimately, we know who Keir is by who he isn’t. I don’t think we will truly understand what he stands for until he wins the election. And to be honest, with the dire state of this country, I’m actually alright with that. At least Starmer is a principled man with working class roots. He’s not going to be one who is an agent for the banks and billionaires. We need change, and we need Starmer to be that change otherwise this country is done.
@eli7742
@eli7742 3 ай бұрын
As ever, I very much appreciate Andrew Marr's impartiality on all things politics and society. The ending of this video could not have been more thought-provoking and sincere about Britain's need for change, including giving people falling outside the 'mainstream' of what we think a leader should be, how they should speak and what their background ought to look like a chance to lead the way.
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 3 ай бұрын
Lol as if this version of Labour are going to change anything for the better
@lizziemcbizzierobin
@lizziemcbizzierobin 3 ай бұрын
@@keithparker1346 exactly! Labour brought bloodshed after murdering innocent Iraqis. Labour are the New Conservatives.
@1pauljs
@1pauljs 3 ай бұрын
Prime ministerial is quite a term . If the likes of Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak can be described as such there is a pretty low bar to qualify as such.
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
And yet he limboed right under it.
@sydnorth5868
@sydnorth5868 3 ай бұрын
There's a difference between being Prime Minister and being prime ministerial. At least three of those you name could never be described as prime ministerial.
@SlowhandGreg
@SlowhandGreg 3 ай бұрын
​@@totalvoid6234what's your problem?
@1pauljs
@1pauljs 3 ай бұрын
@@sydnorth5868 which 2 could then 😐🥸
@sydnorth5868
@sydnorth5868 3 ай бұрын
@@1pauljs You may not agree with their politics, but Cameron and May did at least pay due respect to the position that they held. Even Ian Blackford acknowledged this when he once followed May in a debate about Johnson's shenanigans.
@neilmckie2768
@neilmckie2768 3 ай бұрын
I think he's decent, honest and quite 'middle of the road' - something we haven't had in a very long time. I hope to hell he gets the chance to demonstrate this, despite the haranguing of the Tory press.
@allenarmstrong7435
@allenarmstrong7435 3 ай бұрын
Decent does nor spring to time in his cynical handling of the Gaza issue. Quite the reverse. When individual such as Prince William and, arguably David Cameron in one instance demonstrate more humanity then when are Labours value-based politics. He has lost ‘the benefit of the doubt’.
@neilmckie2768
@neilmckie2768 3 ай бұрын
@@allenarmstrong7435 I'm not a Labour supporter, I'm just a typical floating voter who isn't really driven by any deep rooted ideals with regard to the Middle East - much like the majority of voters in the UK, so to go hard core on that issue would be a surefire way to lose the next election. I can already hear the cries from the RW press of 'anti Semitic Starmer', etc., etc. There's a fine line to be drawn with getting the current crop of grifters out of government and riding around on a white charger, championing every cause that's currently in vogue.
@firefalcon124epic
@firefalcon124epic 3 ай бұрын
To rebuild our country, you need a plan to do it. So far, Starmer has demonstrated no such plan.
@hyperbiped9913
@hyperbiped9913 3 ай бұрын
My mother kissed me on the cheek for the first time at the age of 14 and said, l believe that other parents do this 😂
@FTFLCY
@FTFLCY 3 ай бұрын
Much as I'd relish the moment if the Tories are reduced to double digits, a Starmer government with a 300 majority would not be a good one. FPTP goes into warp factor with figures like YouGov's. Hubris would take over in no time.
@surfcitiz
@surfcitiz 3 ай бұрын
Forgive me if I am a little bit sceptical after seeing so much incompetence, dishonesty and lack of integrity in the people who have governed this country continuously for 14 years. Fingers crossed, Starmer and his team will become angels of change.
@waynemorris8388
@waynemorris8388 3 ай бұрын
We need change and hopefully the labour government will give us change. I'm 59 year old man and have never been so poor finding it hard to pay my why in life It's not right that the richer get richer and the poorer get poorer
@captaintorch983
@captaintorch983 3 ай бұрын
Get used to it. If Labour gets in, all of our money will fund increased immigration, pandering to the Trades Unions, LGBTQ and gender madness. Oh and increased taxation, to repay massive loans. On these matters Marr has had little to say!
@2000bhoy
@2000bhoy 3 ай бұрын
Tories gonna Tory.
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
@@2000bhoy Labour right gonna tory and dismantle democracy.
@awol2602
@awol2602 3 ай бұрын
It's an indictment of the political culture that KS has had to hollow out any principles he might have had. Andrew Marr would undoubtedly make a far better PM himself.
@carolinewaterstone2624
@carolinewaterstone2624 11 күн бұрын
That was superb, really excellent: v many thanks 😃
@riccardo-964
@riccardo-964 3 ай бұрын
Oh, the sheer looming risks of complacency.
@race9359
@race9359 5 күн бұрын
I bet you, Andrew needed a cigarette after making this video.
@gnjp8340
@gnjp8340 3 ай бұрын
Starmer is clearly highly principled person , his background says it all but he is operating in a highly divided political environment with right and left ideologists trying to discredit him.. on Brexit he is clearly trying to sail very carefully to getting UK back into at least the single market - he is not stupid he is not going to go out and out for EU membership nor accept Brexit as it is . Andrew seems to some him up very well at end …in my opinion A Man of Common Sense for Crazy times -
@patcampton7163
@patcampton7163 2 ай бұрын
Highly principled people don't lie. He was working against Corbyn all the time. He hates the left. I won't be buying this tome. Yes we need a Labour government desperately, but we won't be getting that with Starmer. This is not a Labour party. I'm glad he knows who he is . We also know who he is. He is a hyper Liberal, he is not going to take on capitalism. Starmer will use the power of the start and he will use it against us.
@kerrynewnham8946
@kerrynewnham8946 3 ай бұрын
I am of the left I’m also a green I also believe in honesty in politics and since Keir Starmer basically told the left to piss off, whilst smearing them wantonly purging the MPs I have no intention of ever voting for K Starmer or this version of the labour party ever again. The only thing that will persuade me to do so I would be an offer of PR, so that we can get rid of this utterly broken shoddy electoral system whereby either party can basically say you’ve got to vote for us or get “him” and we deserve better than this and we have a much more radical / green minded country than the voting system allows reflection of
@czarkusa2018
@czarkusa2018 3 ай бұрын
Recent events show Corbyn was right about Israel anyway.
@aclark903
@aclark903 3 ай бұрын
I think the best we can hope for is Kier being a one term PM. If he is in for as long as Tony we are doomed. Then again he hasn’t won yet.
@aclark903
@aclark903 3 ай бұрын
@@psyqueerdelic They had a vote a while back: it failed to pass. The party that wins always has a vested interest in keeping the status quo.
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 3 ай бұрын
​@@psyqueerdelicbut funnily PR is not going to be offered by Labour.why should they as they've benefitted from fptp as much as the Tories
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 3 ай бұрын
That simply proves that Labour are not listening to their members​@@psyqueerdelic
@johnestok277
@johnestok277 3 ай бұрын
Question-if Keri Starmer was a trial lawyer, that is argued cases in a court, why does he always have to read from scripts? I would think he’d have much better public speaking skills
@gavinmoran6880
@gavinmoran6880 3 ай бұрын
I would suggest because he is a middle man doing what he is told by others. It's easy to remember your own views and values but we need scripts when speaking on behalf of others.
@nigelhardy7218
@nigelhardy7218 3 ай бұрын
All political leaders read from scripts written for them by their team, except of course Bojo de Pfeffel pepper pig who writes his own incoherent sh** and forgets (or pretends to). Some are just better than others at reading from the script.
@BringSomeNoise
@BringSomeNoise 3 ай бұрын
A lot of his work was in front of appeals courts where you have to convince a judge that you have the correct legal argument, not win over a jury with an emotional narrative.
@californiadreamin8423
@californiadreamin8423 3 ай бұрын
@@gavinmoran6880. Garbage. With a rabid Tory media baying for blood, prepared to do anything to preserve the Tory party, I’m fully in favour of scripted statements .
@andrewhague1521
@andrewhague1521 3 ай бұрын
As a trial lawyer he is speaking on behalf of others. But those speeches are one-off, typically at the end of a big case. Starmer has too many speeches to make to learn them all. You are being ridiculous.
@Joe-zu7lx
@Joe-zu7lx 3 ай бұрын
These videos are your best political content on KZfaq thank you
@paulcousins1168
@paulcousins1168 24 күн бұрын
I remember what he and Blair did in Northern Ireland during the Good Friday Agreement when they freed the IRA prisoners and persacuted the peace keepers with war crimes for doing there jobs for nearly 30 years.
@gordonsmith7885
@gordonsmith7885 3 ай бұрын
I have been a Labour Party supporter and voter all my life..this guy is a brilliant operator..a working guy who absolutely understands the working class..he understands the elites too and rejects their warped values..I think he might be the modern Atlee
@grayssportsalmanac85
@grayssportsalmanac85 3 ай бұрын
That's fucking hilarious 😂
@gordonsmith7885
@gordonsmith7885 3 ай бұрын
@@grayssportsalmanac85 watch this space..we need to win first
@boxtradums0073
@boxtradums0073 3 ай бұрын
What are you talking about. What he done in the commons two days ago was pure corruption as bad as anything the Tories have done.
@Charles61284
@Charles61284 3 ай бұрын
Lol, he’s a Tory bought and payed for
@grayssportsalmanac85
@grayssportsalmanac85 3 ай бұрын
Pretty sure Atlee didn't lie to the Labour membership to get elected. ..Atlee wouldn't have wanted private health involved in the NHS either.
@TC8787-yq7og
@TC8787-yq7og 3 ай бұрын
Great question, Andrew - duplicitous is the word.
@sylviafennah2263
@sylviafennah2263 3 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed. We don’t get Lack Luster Starmer.
@Kergrist
@Kergrist 3 ай бұрын
Our man👏, thank you Andrew.
@petermcfarlane2294
@petermcfarlane2294 3 ай бұрын
He's been , GOT AT ! HE IS THE SAME , AS THE TORIES...
@bramharms72
@bramharms72 3 ай бұрын
From the outside looking in (Dutchman here) I see him practice the art of the possible. Not in a cynical way but more in a technocratic way: What can I promise and deliver? What can I spend? etc. He's campaigning "within his means", unlike all the supremely confident public school boys who are detached from the idea of consequences that you Brits are used to. Unfortunately he's also a bit to careful, he's trying to minimize his exposure to criticism from the right which he should really lean in to. But I see this coming from recognizing the gravity of the moment, that tory government has turned into pure evil, in outcomes if not intent.
@jaseayathorai3762
@jaseayathorai3762 3 ай бұрын
An great objective analysis.
@lyudmilakutsenko7045
@lyudmilakutsenko7045 Ай бұрын
And one little remark. He is originally from promised land. According to his father's beard. Now continue.
@lyudmilakutsenko7045
@lyudmilakutsenko7045 Ай бұрын
I think it's important as he shows himself as an Englishman who he isn't. That's why he wants to change Britain. They hate the British for not giving them promised land before the 2WW. And yes, now continue, dear Englishman.
@lizziemcbizzierobin
@lizziemcbizzierobin 3 ай бұрын
To summarise the video: Starmer has become more and more Conservative and fascist as he grew up. That's it. That's the story.
@johnkearns7503
@johnkearns7503 3 ай бұрын
These last two years the tide has been turning, and hope’s fresh and rosy fingers rise like dawn upon the morning. Labour are right not to celebrate too early but there is finally a tangible party to oppose the charlatans we’ve suffered so long. I’m 36 this year, and so many elections, votes and directions this country has taken during my life have been antithetical to how I believe we should treat each other and make progress in the world.
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
Nex tis going to be, by far, the worst for you.
@jonsmith5058
@jonsmith5058 3 ай бұрын
Tangible party…? Starmer purged any left thinking. Labour now are basically Camerons conservatives they are so right. They arent an alternative, its more of the same.
@Boghopper9999
@Boghopper9999 3 ай бұрын
Welcome to first past the post; a form of democracy that virtually ensured minority rule
@dotdashdotdash
@dotdashdotdash 3 ай бұрын
Nice fluff piece. Will you ask him what his favourite ice cream flavour is?
@CartoonrBOY
@CartoonrBOY 3 ай бұрын
Do please remember the UK press is more conservative than ever - over the years Mr Starmer has been bullied by them, but given his history within the law & his humble background, I can't think of anyone I'd rather vote for.
@johnearnshaw5036
@johnearnshaw5036 27 күн бұрын
Where are you and Keir going for dinner later Andrew?
@tarscase7653
@tarscase7653 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic as always and quite uplifting. And ultimately, as much as people may be indifferent to him, how you can not vote Labour and reward this pitiful Tory govt with more power is beyond sanity!
@captaintorch983
@captaintorch983 3 ай бұрын
Not as insane as believing that Labour will do better! When did they ever? Not during my 74 years that is for sure.
@naziphone7260
@naziphone7260 3 ай бұрын
Because of his stance on Gaza. Because he has kicked out the left of the party for spurious reasons. Because he made pledges he had no intention of keeping. Because his only offer to the electorate is not Tory. Gonna vote Green or sit it out - if Tories get in again it’s Starmer’s fault
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
Vote Labour. Exactly and ONLY when the billionaire class thinks it's in their interest.
@Goldstone93
@Goldstone93 2 ай бұрын
Take a shot every time someone says he’s ruthless
@keithparker1346
@keithparker1346 3 ай бұрын
Lol that New Statesmen is obviously deleting some messages that are critical of Starmer
@Cdearle
@Cdearle 25 күн бұрын
If he hates being called Sir Keir, why then did he accept the title? I once thought it went automatically with the job of DPP, like a High Court judge. However that isn’t the case, and he only accepted the title after he stepped down as DPP and was already looking for a Labour seat. Seems a bit two-faced.
@plebjames
@plebjames 3 ай бұрын
Andrew, I've got some magic beans to sell you. Starmer's one guiding principle is ambition and he will say and do LITERALLY anything he thinks will help his career. There is not an iota of anything to him other than that. He will be woefully out of his depth as PM and will cave time and time again as he is buffeted and put under all sorts of pressure with no political beliefs to guide him
@KloppMichaelBarnes
@KloppMichaelBarnes 3 ай бұрын
Ultimately, Keir Starmer is a product of the recent situation. He is a relatively dry technocrat who has arrived in place of populist, over simplistic minor celebs or the media-trained puppy dogs that the party apparatchiks put forward. Obviously, there is something sinister about not sticking to a particular set of policies but that is hardly a novel thing for a politician.
@tyler6539
@tyler6539 3 ай бұрын
He's a slippery shapeshifting lizard alien who doesn't deserve to be anywhere near power (but 100x better than any tory)
@andrewtucker94
@andrewtucker94 3 ай бұрын
*Lefties when they see a politician wearing a suit*
@tyler6539
@tyler6539 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewtucker94 lefties when they see a political opportunist lie to us and then to the entire country offering no tangible alternative to what we have, endorses collective punishment of an occupied people, and changes his opinion to whatever way the wind blows
@DJWESG1
@DJWESG1 3 ай бұрын
​@@andrewtucker94 I extend it to all ppl in suits.
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
True if x is -0.05
@stephenkerensky710
@stephenkerensky710 28 күн бұрын
Hoew can we respect a referendum decision that was achieved by a minority of the electorate? The biggest sector was those who ether voted against or couldn`t make up their minds. What a real leader does is react to changing circumstances. Which is what Starmer has done.
@davidpaull7612
@davidpaull7612 2 ай бұрын
You don't have to kowtow to the system because you understand it. You can understand it and want to change it, that's a true Labour position. A progressive position.
@louiswall2984
@louiswall2984 3 ай бұрын
Thank you that you believe in him l am in Philippines just now hoping to bring my wife back to UK for a much better life.
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
Stay in the philippines for your own sake.
@thepoliticalitalian8615
@thepoliticalitalian8615 3 ай бұрын
How dare you speak the truth bad . You know better and that this is forbidden. 😂​@@totalvoid6234
@gordonaliasme1104
@gordonaliasme1104 3 ай бұрын
We have many Philippino in the UK! Please come!
@gordonaliasme1104
@gordonaliasme1104 3 ай бұрын
​@@totalvoid6234 Don't be so negative!
@ianmaclean2214
@ianmaclean2214 3 ай бұрын
He’s a long standing member of the trilateral commission. Nough said!
@chrishigson9800
@chrishigson9800 25 күн бұрын
Not a question of who is Starmer, the real question is what is Starmer. He is burdoned with a voice which sounds as if his nose is clamped. Ignore the warm description by BBC Marr. Starmer is not a rocket, he's.a baloon, drifting where the wind blows.
@denniswinters3096
@denniswinters3096 23 күн бұрын
There's a Starmer, waiting in the sky, he'd like to come and meet us, but he thinks he'd blow our minds.
@dmjohn65
@dmjohn65 12 күн бұрын
Well after that party political broadcast on behalf of Keir Starmer (the case for the defence) i am all ears for the case for the Prosection! Not my man!🤬
@stephenpettett3472
@stephenpettett3472 3 ай бұрын
Good analysis. Looks very much like Labour will form the next government so we will indeed begin to see what kind of PM Keir Starmer makes. He seems a pragmatist who values competency over personality and rhetoric, which would be welcome. However, his electoral success in the coming election will be as much due to the Tories´ impopularity as it is enthusiasm for Labour,. In which case, with an eye on the following election, the pressure will really be on to deliver in the next parliament if they want to win a second term. Not easy when the public finances are in a mess and when confidence in our politicians is so low. But he may only have one shot.
@geoffreynhill2833
@geoffreynhill2833 3 ай бұрын
Anyone who takes Sun editorials seriously needs their head examined. Starmer has qualities their scribblers couldn't possibly understand. 🤔 (Green Fire UK) 🌈🦉
@brucemateer2630
@brucemateer2630 3 ай бұрын
I reflect on the state the uk is in and the state Australia was in with a right wing leaning agenda and government and see great similarities. I think the public are growing weary of this constant fighting and want to have a change toward the centre of politics. I hope Keir Starmer is the man to bring Britain back to a good hearted country.
@boxtradums0073
@boxtradums0073 3 ай бұрын
He’s just a red hard brexit supporting English nationalist
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
An ultra far right authoritarian bringing us to the centre? Somehow I think that reality will not work this way because it literally can't.
@user-re7kn3rp9f
@user-re7kn3rp9f 12 күн бұрын
We very much need Starmer’s honesty and integrity at a time when boosterism an bullshit has previously been allowed to dominate…
@khar12d8
@khar12d8 3 ай бұрын
I don't think Keir Starmer is very impressive but I don't think that matters very much. I think change governments happen when the time is right. Thatcher didn't change the weather. The weather was already changing throughout the 70s. Thatcher was the beneficiary of the new climate. Even without Thatcher Labour would have lost throughout the 80s and another, less emotive Tory, would have enacted similar policies. Many Tory policies in the 80s didn't come from Thatcher. They were coming from a range of places and picked up by Thatcher. The same after 1945. Social democracy had been developing in the interwar years. The Beveridge Report. Beveridge was a Liberal. Even without Attlee a new post war settlement was coming. I think Labour have the space after the next election to be more radical on housing. To enact a more state led industrial strategy etc... Starmer or no Starmer. If anything, Reeves will be the more powerful in terms of enacting certain changes. Nothing happens without the Treasury.
@khar12d8
@khar12d8 3 ай бұрын
@@eightiesmusic1984 The govt does absolutely loads for people already. The NHS is more extensive in terms of what it provides people than ever before. Spending on the NHS as a percentage of GDP is at a record high, far higher than under Labour or the Tories in the 40s/50s. The problem isn't that we don't have enough govt, it's that so much of it is taken up by old people. This is a consequence of our ageing society. You need to reform the system so, frankly, pensioners get less. Abolish the triple lock. Raise the state pension age. Of course, very politically difficult. Then more govt services could go to working age people. Housing I would argue doesn't require a lot of extra money. In fact, we need liberalisation in that we need planning restrictions liberalised. But on top of that I would support more legal power to councils to actually build houses, to buy up land at cheaper prices etc... But I don't think it's as simple as just expanding the role of the state across the board. We've got a situation in which working age people are paying more tax to fund pensioners, not only is this ethically questionable it's bad for the economy. We need to create a tax system that encourages empty nesters to sell their big homes and downsize, freeing up property for growing younger families etc... The bias in the system towards old people is one of the great problems. Labour, if they win, may have a voter coalition that skews younger maybe giving them opportunity to deal with some of this bias.
@totalvoid6234
@totalvoid6234 3 ай бұрын
That time being when Murdoch realises a change in governnment will have the least possible impact on policy.
@allenarmstrong7435
@allenarmstrong7435 3 ай бұрын
Good analysis.. but since a shift of power Is coming, it’s strange that Labour have remained so vacuous and vacillating in what they would do ( and especially what they ARE doing - their utterly disgraceful stance on Gaza). The context means they could remain moderate and harmless but try and outline and adhere to some progressive core values.
@pauldonnelly3501
@pauldonnelly3501 3 ай бұрын
Am and I always have been a Labour supporter, but who am I mean to vote for surely not this man every thing he has said in the past he has changed his policy's on
@podger_minis
@podger_minis 3 ай бұрын
these are just brilliant thanks andrew marr!
@JRattheranch
@JRattheranch 3 ай бұрын
Whatever is pontificated by the media.... I understand what Kier says and does, even if wrong! I cannot identify with a single senior Tory!
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