I had a malignant Narcissist mom as well, she tried to kill me in a car accident when I was ten years old

@@ladyrose83 my gosh. Do you were you believed when you told the story or did someone intervene. Thank God you lived. S did she ever get help.

@Zeyna Nd No she didn't, she was a heavy alcohol drinker back then, but I'm not making any excuses for her, she never abused my brother, so she knew full well what she was doing and she was very verbal abusive to me as a child and a young adult. I'm 58 and she's 80 now, at that time my father was her biggest enabler, always telling me that's your mother, she carried you nine months, so she was excused for her wrong behaviors, when my father died, my brother became her enabler whom she treated so much better.

My mom is a covert narc. I can’t be in contact with her or most of my family and live 2,000+ miles away from her -- for a reason!

@@gisellewisdomdavey5554 covert Narc Moms turn all the family against their target.

Hey lonely people! I think we found an evil MALIGNANT community right here! 😂

Hey all of us are not like that. Don't be so ignorant

Any advice for other kids with these parents? My son at 10 already doesn't want a relationship with his father, and he only sees him 2 days a month. Those 2 days are met with weeks of anxiety leading up.

I didn’t realize it until 23. My whole life I thought I was a crazy, stupid, lazy, zero who shouldn’t even try to do/learn anything new because I would only fail and waste my time. I finally said F it I know I’ll fail but I’m still going to try, and ended up realizing I can do anything I put my mind to, I can learn whatever I have to learn in order to achieve my goal. I’ve never had any self confidence my entire life and it feels so good knowing I can do anything I put my mind to. I still love him and care too much about making sure he’s always happy, but at least i see it for what it is when he’s acting the way he does. Unfortunately he has a bad coke addiction that makes him extremely bipolar on a regular bases so it’s pretty hard to stay positive around him when it’s all super high highs and super low lows.

@age93, I like to watch true crime. Are you familiar with the Adelson case? It’s a family that conspired together, got a hitman to murder Dan Markel, a lawyer professor. Well, the mother, Donna Adelson nicknamed him dummy and stupid around his kids when the kids were at visitation with his ex-wife. He heard it, on the phone, in passing or in the background. The children were like only three ( maybe three going on four ) and the other one around two. Dan Markel is a law professor so he knew what to do. He complained to the court of Donna breaking their relationship, it has a name to it and the court was going to make the visits with grandma be arranged and watched.

I label them: narcissist/psychopaths. You might think that a psychopath, who is a surgeon, who keeps a steady hand, clear, calm and collective a gift, but not the narcissist/psychopath. They are crazy. They don’t play fair, they physically beat you. Then, as adults, they mentally beat you because physically beating you is against the law. So that is a, “ gift “ to your kind? It’s a gift that you have found a way to feel better about yourself by dealing with people in this cruel manner? Is it a gift to have abnormal sex relations where you discover that sadism gives a euphoria but you can’t find someone who will allow you to abuse them this way so then you just take it? Is the mental illness a gift to you that makes you be enslaved to it and it controls you? Will the mental illness delude the holder of it lying to themselves claiming that it is a gift? Not all are cool, calm, collected surgeons, who are getting good supply based on his status in life so that he doesn’t have to resort to negative supply. But then, what does that surgeon do behind closed doors? Is he an alcoholic? So even if he does have a, “ gift “ he may have to self medicate with drugs or alcohol.

Narcissism: is like narcissistic traits. You can have 1 or 2 traits but have empathy, feel guilt, etc. I.e. You are not a narcissist, you just have traits. Npd: is the full diagnosis. Most care very much about themselves, how others see them, and believe they are the center of the universe. "Me, me, me, me, it's the meeeee show" They talk about themselves a lot and get bored when you try to talk about you. Sometimes you will see a narcissist on their phone, walking away, while the wife is chasing after them trying to say something. Btw, the wife/husband/family always has to apologize to others in public. To waiter: "I'm sorry he was so rude" or to taxi driver "I'm sorry she didn't tip" or to customer service person: "I'm sorry she said that" Family is always apologizing in public for their rude behavior. Sometimes you will see the narcissist leave the spouse in the dust. They will walk away or walk ahead of them and then blame them for not walking fast enough. "Can't you keep up?" This is the same for if they walk behind or slower than you. "You walk to fast, slow down." Now, the main difference between npd and Aspd (sociopathy/psychopathy) is narcissists have low self esteem. Sometimes extreme self esteem issues. They can feel shame. Psychopaths have no self esteem issues. None. They walk with confidence everyday. Also, narcissists NEED what is called "narcissistic supply". They need attention, admiration, praise, etc. They need to be told they are pretty, smart, funny, etc. Psychopaths don't need this. They don't need attention or admiration, as my psychopath ex said "that's for stupid people." Third, psychopaths can, and do, manipulate narcissists. A psychopath knows how to make a narcissist their toy.

I've dealt with both and personally this is my opinion about their danger levels: Narcissist: ----- Psychopath:--------------- So yes, I believe psychopaths are much more dangerous. Now, what's the difference between a sociopath and a psychopath? Well, at their core, very little. They are cut from the same piece of cloth, so to speak. But one side is the color red and angry, the other side is colored blue and cold. However, the main difference is: -sociopath is from nature, trauma/psychopath is born that way -sociopath gets angered more easily/psychopaths can keep their cool -sociopaths are more likely to get caught, slip up/psychopaths are more likely to NOT slip up. -sociopaths are more emotional/psychopaths are cold -some sociopaths can have a few people they care about and protect/psychopaths don't care about anyone. Not even their own family. Another difference between Aspd and npd I forgot to mention: -npd tends to, well...not be smart. Most I find are below average iq. However, there are some who are smart too, but most I've met are dumb. All psychopaths I've met are extremely smart. Like 150+ iq, 200+ iq...300+iq...400... Aspd are not dumb, I'll tell you that. -npd tend to use "emotional manipulation", while psychopaths use emotional manipulation, dark psychology, brainwashing, confusion, fear tactics, etc. Aspd go above and beyond a narcissist in manipulation. -a narcissist won't usually break the law, they care too much how others view them "what will the neighbours think??" Aspd has no problem doing bad things.

@@specialtwice4975😏

That true my father is NPD. I'm in a trap I can't completly go away from him cause of my mom and sister.

In must have a little scizo with it too trust me i would know i are one 🫥 in yes i said it that way on purpose.

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I know narcissists who are more narcissistic than psychopaths and I know psychopaths who are more psychopathic than narcissistic so this saying is not true. Once you witness a narcissist use his NPD playbook, deliberately, as a tactic, to mentally punch you, to hurt you, acting like a bully, being cruel, that person is automatically a psychopath too even though their narcissism is surface level, take the covert narcissist for an example. One that is more the covert side than the vulnerable side because covert is the same as vulnerable only some display the covert side and some display or present as, the vulnerable side.

Straight Facts.... Truth be told..

This is not true. Take the covert narcissist for example. They are bullies which makes them psychopaths too. Any narcissist who is cruel to you, deliberately, is also a bully; a psychopath. They use their NPD playbook deliberately. They know what they are doing.

I agree. Narcissist are the in your face whiny , tantrum throwing , think they’re way smarter than they are, superiority complex, fragile ego and loves to manipulate and hurt for the pleasure. Those people are easier to read and basically the moment you stop engaging or caring for them than their power is up. Psychopaths don’t go out of their way unless you have something they want or have harmed them they would not hesitate and it’s easy for them. They have high IQ usually and are so good at acting out emotions because they don’t feel them. They were born that way. Sociopath weren’t born that way but got wired due to early trauma of some sort of event that triggered them to change. They feel more emotion than psychopath are more prone to anger burst but switch it off right after. They also have the ability to have more empathy for their loved ones as for a psychopath it’s nearly impossible.

True, I know a psychopath, he won't hurt anyone without a reason

@@patrickliterallymebateman9892Then he’s obviously not a psychopath 🤦‍♀️

Psychopaths are worse than narcissists. They have no remorse, no empathy, and no guilt. Narcissists have extremely low empathy, remorse at times, and are always lingering with some guilt. This doesn’t mean that they will stop their bad behaviors. Psychopaths are terribly worse and predatory.

I’m not a psycho >:(

I was thinking the same 🥶

@@sehsea i am not gods child i am not satan’s child i am my mothers boy 😊😁

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No they're different

Yay

No but Is crazy

I’m on the receiving end and your comment made my day and cheered me up. I hope and wish you the best in recovery if that’s the word. Can you tell me, if you don’t mind, how did you overcome it? Did you go to therapy or something? Again, I hope you are doing well.

It’s not all men. You’re just being schizophrenic right there and playing with the word.

Wow, that's awful, Willamina. So sorry to hear. Learning as much as we can is truly helpful when figuring out the best approach. Believe it or not, deep down they're scared. The best approach is fearlessness. To them it's an unknown power that they have never experienced. However this is the worst of the worst diagnosis, ie serial killers, so there's that too.

you don't have to forgive her. I'm so sorry that happened, it's horrible what you said here, bless your heart. I cannot imagine. they make a screw up, they make us make mistakes.

?¿ If you really feel attracted to human meat, ask your psychologist or doctor. They can help you

Honestly. That automatically falls under Cluster B , if you really want to know, you’re socio/psycho. Re-read what you told us. The 1st line already lets us know. Then you have cannibalism. NOT a lot of people do that even when food is scarce. I don’t think even narcissists do that. You letting us know that you don’t want to get caught or want to feel the repercussions/consequences already shows you have some type of conscience but I guess it works to a degree.

I'm not so sure about that. I suspect my sister is a psychopath, but not a narcissist. She always assumes she's right & tramples over people in a very matter-of-fact way, but she never looks for a reaction. It's like everyone is so far beneath her she has no interest in them one way or the other.

Actually narcissists care about their reputation, they see them self's as above everyone else, and they often suck up to people that have power or respect so they can get those themselves. Psychopaths are none of these, psychopaths simply don't give two shits about what others think of them, nor do they seem themselves as some king, queen or god, if they did they wouldn't bother wearing a "mask" to fit in with society they would simply be to egotistical and prideful they would think they are to good to do such a simple thing unless it was to make someone admire them. Also most narcissists come from depression, which psychopaths don't can't have (according to what I've read but other places say they can so take that with a grain of salt))

@@blahblahblah6241😏

Either born or made very early on through lead exposure, abusive environment, head trauma etc. Some claim that no one is born a psychopath

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They’re more likely to send others to the grave and the paranoia they have means they’re likely to survive bad encounters

That’s not how it works

@@Punicia what ever

🙄🙄 Wake up!

Says the relentless propaganda, which you're happily spreading, propagandist. That's your legacy. However, in politics, propaganda is allowed, so it's up to us to figure out fact from fiction. It's a test. The secret is to judge a politician by his actions, not by what his enemies say, knowing that the media attacks everyone who calls them out. The "psychopathic narcissist Trump" story doesn't match his actions, at all. None of it adds up. Quite the opposite, which is why he's so loved. But to find out the truth, you'd have to listen, which doesn't happen, because propagandists are fearful, emotional, naive, and stubborn, ie. don't care about any other side to their story.

yes

He’s a malignant narcissist but not a psychopath. He’s into himself but doesn’t have the stare