Wow with Rory and Thogden you know this is gonna be lacking any logic, and be an absolute laugh

"Winning the treble is impossible. I know it's potentially going to happen this season." Never change Rory 🤣

That 98/99 United team was unreal. People forget just who they had to go through to win that European Cup - Barcelona with Rivaldo and Figo, Inter Milan with Ronaldo and Zamorano, Juventus with Zidane, Davids, Dechamps and Inzaghi, not to mention Bayern Munich twice (group stage and the final). Players and teams that have become all time legends were defeated by that United team. In the FA Cup they had to beat Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool before beating Newcastle in the final - the most difficult opponents they could have possibly faced. It's always hard comparing teams from different eras, and you can argue that football is faster and more athletic now than it's ever been, but it's also less aggressive and physical than it's ever been. Asking teams from one era to compete against teams from another is essentially asking each team to give away one of their main advantages - toughness and the ability to tackle hard (and withstand hard tackles) from one side, or the time/space to play nice football without getting booted into row z on the other. Perhaps if we're going to compare teams from different eras, they should be two-legged games: one with modern referees and VAR, and one with a 90s approach to refereeing and no VAR. I'd pay good money to see that.

Rory saying this 2002 Arsenal team is better whilst holding the picture of the 97/98 team 😂 says it all really

Rory simultaneously arguing context is important and comparing the same club's trophy records from different eras to determine which version of that team is best is my favourite part.

Thogden made rory look like a footballing expert

The disrespect to Liverpool man… that 19/20 PL season is the most dominant PL win ever. 25 points clear at one point. Same team won the CL the year before. They deserve top 5. Covid stopped them from getting about 105 points

Rory and Thogden on the same episode. … yeah I’ll give this one a miss

This is a question that makes no sense because every era was different the 90s, 00s and 10s and now 20s are all different but prime Man Utd and prime Chelsea were an incredible team to watch and hate to say it but even Man City are incredible to watch. Pep has the team like a damn A.I.

How quickly people forgot about Man City 18/19 team. They won the domestic treble (PL, FA cup and League Cup) and showed us one of the best title run-ins ever, winning all of their last 14 PL matches, finishing at 98 points. Certainly, one of the best.

I think I speak for everyone when I say can we please get Mark Goldridge? Hes not biased, funny and has good ball knowledge

Thogden going hard for that Man City team because it's the only one he was alive to see 😂

Thogden always looks like he think everyone in the room is gonna fight him

The Invincibles record would never be broken, even if Arsenal had "12 draws" it doesn't excuse how difficult this achievement is in a highly competitive competition.

The current narrative regarding Gary Neville’s lack of ability is only due to those people having not actually seen him play or not being born in that era. He was one of the best around, especially when Beckham was still at the club. Their link up play down that right wing was telepathic at times.

How Rory gets a job on here I will never know 😂

City 2017/18 Centurions and 2018/19 Domestic Treble teams broke all the records.

With regards to Arsenal's Invincibles, Ferguson said: “The achievements stand above everything else.”

United 07/08 won 3 prems in a row in a tougher era and they also won a ucl while havin ronaldo. Best English team ever.

Klopps Liverpool won every trophy in the game and 97, 99 points. Not from a Liverpool fan

19/20 Liverpool 99 pts

I agree with Rory treble winning Man Utd team of 1999 should be No 1.

Surely 19/20 Liverpool get inv

If Chelsea had been the first invincibles team he'd bring it up every 20 minutes.

Clicks *sees thogden and Jennings* Clicks off

Big up Rory, there is no question that our 99 TREBLE winning team is the best team in premier league history

I'm a Toon fan who despises Liverpool, but Klopp's 97 point 2nd placed team EMBARRASSES the Invincibles.

Liverpool 99 points and Ucl didnt make the list this has to be a joke😂😂

Liverpool 18-20 totally ignored, biggest example of negative ball knowledge.

I agree with all of Rory's choices . And to Thogden, the1970 Brazil team is considered the best national team ever by nearly all football historians. If we timetraveled that team to today, would they still perform? Absolutely not!.... for obvious reasons football has evolved in every way possible.That's why we evaluate teams through the lens of history. Edit: the current Man City will obviously challenge the 99 Man Utd team's position if they also win the treble, but as it stands the 99 United team reigns supreme.

A few important points here. Firstly, Having a kid (Thogden) argue the Utd 99 team against the current (insanely funded) City team which he watches live is a bit daft. He wasn't even alive for Utd 99, and if so, wasn't even outta nappies. Secondly: I doubt he's watched all games from that 98/99 season both domestically and abroad to really understand what that Utd team went up against. This was a tough era. Was the same era as Zidane, Rivaldo, Brazillian Ronaldo, Batistuta, Figo, Raul, Thierry Henry, Shearer, Roberto Carlos, Shevchenko, Stevie Gerrard, Patrick Vieira, Christian Vieri, and the list goes on and on. Some of the biggest legends to ever play. That Utd team beat some of the greatest teams with the best players in history. And won the treble! Thirdly: You can't compare a Treble to a Centurian because you have to make tough choices towards the end of a season with injuries (especially when the game was much tougher tackle-wise). So some PL games Fergie needed to field a weaker side to save better players from the risk of injury to play in bigger CL games. This was the norm back then. So getting 79 points and winning Champions League and FA Cup was a serious achievement in those times Lastly: United weren't owned by infinite pockets to allow them to buy the biggest players on earth. Of the squad members in 1999, 77% of the team was homegrown from the British Isles!!! They had a great starting 11, but didn't have the money like City does today to have two strong starting 11s bought from all over the world. City have only 34% of their squad being homegrown. That wasn't a luxury Utd 99 team had, It was simply owned by Martin Edwards who was handed the club from his dad and also sat as the Chairman. So it was operated on profit like a normal business rather than billions in cash injections. I've no issue with big pockets. Great for the league in some ways. But its a point to make as to the actual achievement of the 98/99 squad. It took a very clever strategy to win The Treble in those times. And Fergie did it without unlimited pockets, plagued with injuries from loads of hard tackling in a very hard era of football. And let's not forget that Utd side wasn't under investigation or charged by the Premier League for breaking financial rules, as this City team has been. So unless City win the treble this year, there isn't even an argument to the greatest-ever PL side.

The top 5… (as of now) 1- Man Utd 99-01 3 titles in a row and the treble. 2- Man Utd 07-09 3 titles in a row and the CL 3- Man City 18-19 domestic treble, 100pts and retrained the league. 4- chelsea 05-06- 95pts (most at that time) retained the league. 5- between Man Utd 93-94 and 96-97 teams. Both won the f.a cup and league double, and retained the league.

The disrespect to Liverpool, to not even be mentioned

This is honestly stupid. How’s the Liverpool of 19/20 not there? Liverpool’s 17/18 team beat the centurions 3 times. That wasn’t even Liverpool best team over the years. This is shocking

Liverpool 18-20 has to be there. 97 and 99 points back to back and they got 102 out of 105 points at one point during those season. Thats absurd.

Liverpool 2018-2020: No team has accumulated more points over two seasons (196) with trophies to boot

99 won a treble when european powers were at their peaks. Ajax, juventus, ac, barca, real. The teams and players were unreal. People disrespect neville but people forget he was best right back in the world until Lahm and then it was a toss up

Liverpool 19/20 are so clear of Chelsea 04/05 and Arsenal 01/02

We also need to consider how football has evolved. When ranking these teams look at the level of football at the time and how the particular team played

I would have Arsenal Invincibles and Utd 08 over Mounrinho's 1st year at Chelsea. For context I'm a Spurs fan. Rory is clearly overselling Chelsea here.

Even as an Arsenal fan, looking back at the unbeaten season, yes it’s a great achievement but those 12 draws are a massive blemish. We threw away leads late on, on FIVE occasions - 1-1 Man U (H), 2-2 Spurs (A) 1-1 Everton (A), 1-1 Bolton (A) and 1-1 Leicester (A). That’s criminal. Those 10 extra points would’ve ensured we accumulated 100 Points instead of 90. There was also no games in that season where we are really on the ropes in terms of being behind with 80+ minutes to go, where our character would’ve really come out in the wash either way. I would say only the Pompey game away from home where we’d won the league and were just trying to get over the line in the sense of staying invincible. Reyes made it 1-1 but we did hang on a bit, aside from the missed penalty at Old Trafford obviously. I appreciate it’s a unique achievement, but there are plenty of other teams who I would regard as better than them.

Big fan of Rory demonstrating his knowledge of the 2002 Arsenal team while holding and pointing to a picture of the 1998 team.

Thogden is such a weird guest choice for this one, he wasn't alive or was too young to remember half of these teams, so why is his opinion valuable?

The direspect 2018-2020 Liverpool gets…. Definitely better than those Chelsea and Arsenal teams. Rory “90 points used to make you great” Liverpool done it 3 times in 5 years

Best Premier League teams: 1.Manchester United 1999 (Of course, because they won a Treble). 2.Manchester City 2018 (Centurions). 3.Manchester City 2019 (Domestic Treble). 4.Liverpool 2020 (The only Premier League title for Liverpool to date with Jurgen Klopp). 5.Chelsea 2005 (Great season with Jose Mourinho, where they only lost a solitary game vs none other than Manchester City before Abu Dhabi era). 6.Arsenal 2004 (The Invincibles).

Was Thogden even born in 1999? Has he only watched clips of that United team in 1999. I was 14 at the time living in Egypt and had cable tv. A South African channel called super sports showed all the champions league games, the FA cup and premier league. I remember following every game. United were ruthless, full of passion and grit. I couldn’t wait for the weekend and midweek games. In February/March i really believed in my heart that United would do the treble. moments that I remember all the twists and turns, the game against Juventus, Arsenal in the FA cup. It was magical. I remember thinking at 90 minutes against Bayern that it was all over and then 4 minutes later, United accomplished the impossible. Imagine having cole and yorke and having Ole and Sheringham on the bench. Throughout the season a midfield of Scholes, Giggs, Beckham and Keane.

He’s holding a picture of Arsenal in 98 and calling it 2002? 😂

No team plans to be invincible at the beginning of the season. The teams plan on winning trophies, top 4 finish, European places and avoiding relegation. Whether you go invincible or not, what matters is achieving the goal. Being invincible is good, but what matters the most is to actually win something.

I would have swapped City's Centerions for the Fourmidables. City's 2018-18 is so underrated. 😢

In terms of premier league only: 1. Prime man city (centurions) 2. Prime liverpool (19-20) 3. Prime chelsea (04-05 but 16-17 is very close) 4. Prime man united (07-08) 5. Prime arsenal (03-04) In terms of best team to play in the premier league, it’s man united 98-99. Definitely

Arsenal Invincibles did not have the strongest squad but probably had the best and most balanced first eleven of sny of these sides. Points total is relative given the strength of the league. If a league is more competitive then teams can take points off each other. Sir Alex Ferguson said that a league campaign with no defeats is the greatest achievement of any team. You will never see a team go 38 league matches unbeaten for some time.

Rory, the same guy who said haaland would be lucky to get 15 goals in his first season? That guy?

I think its very important to rule out stats sometimes, and mainly focus on the players individual ability/team ability. Also, you need to take into consideration the teams each team was playing against. Guaranteed the centurions had an easier time with the opposition in PL then the invincibles or 98/99 man U team. So its important to take that into consideration. I can win a billion cups/tournaments with my team if I played against children, but do those stats matter if someone beat a top pro team with there team?. Thats sort of my point to a lot of this. Its also something that really comes from playing actual futbol rather than watching, as the more you play at a competitive or high level, the more you understand that stats are irrelevant in many ways.

The football takes honestly weren't that bad tbh. I think liverpool 2020 squad might have a good shout to make top 5, but aside from that I dont really think much would change. Its just a bit hard to compare rosters that were decades apart, especially since the way teams played changed so much between the early 2000s and now.

Not even started watching but I already know Rory is going to deliver something ‘special’ 😂

United in '99 won the treble with a squad full of home grown talent, let's not forget that side of it. Not a massive fan of Rory, but I have to admit he's fairly accurate with that list overall in my opinon.

4 different categories European Treble - Man Utd 1999 Most Points - Man City Centurion Least Goals Conceded - Chelsea 2004 | (Most Goals Scored is not included here is mainly because of rule of diminishing returns - winning every game by 7-0 gives you the same points as winning every game 1-0) Invincibles - Arsenal 2002 If Man City wins the European treble this season, I would put them at the top. Yes, the Man Utd team of 1999 was sensational However, this season is also the one that has that one month break in the middle thanks to the World Cup, which can stunt form and weaken teams through injuries If Man City concedes the FA Cup, I would put them at 2nd If Man City concedes the UCL, I would put the Man Utd team of 2008 at #2 for their PL and UCL double

I think in terms of how the game has evolved and what this team is capable of then yes it's the best team ever, the reason I think people will say its not is more to the fact that City have such a level of apathy towards them that nobody cares and because nobody really cares or has that much feeling towards it then it becomes a question of who is the best team ever that we do feel something about.

Man U 2008 squad and 1998-1999 squad End of story

Surely Jürgen Kloops men are up there they challenged City and got 99 points and won ucl

Sad that they didn't mention Klopps title winning Liverpool side here. Accolades alone doesn't determine a sides quality. I don't think any of the sides mentioned above can match the press of that Liverpool.

Also depends when the game is played no? If in 99 it's alot more physical dunno if city could live with that. Also if the 99 team put those tackles which were allowed then in a game now there would be a lot of cards

Sky sports know what their doing by inviting people like Rory in the last few weeks 😭

Rory and Thogden in the same episode. Doesn't get much worse.

I assume everyone just hates on liverpool for no reason. Last year they were practically 2 games away from a historic quadrupole. Disgraceful that they didn’t get a mention.

1- treble 2- 08 united 3- Invincibles 4- Centurions 5- 05 chelsea

If anyone understands the history of the game, it's someone born in the 21st century.

Recency bias. Of course Man City is the best..if you're 19 years old

Liverpool team of 2022 is criminally overlooked none of the teams even came close to a quadruple and they were a courtois inspired performance and Gundogan last 10 minutes goal from doing something never seen in football before.

Styles of play differs and Pep has created a style of possession play that old fashioned team would nowhere near cope against. Having said that, this new version of man city are the most devastating english team i have seen in my life with the 3-2-4-1 formation that many big teams just cannot cope with. They don't just play wonderful football but for the first time pep has built a physically imposing team with tall players so they don't just beat you, they bully you completely in big games.

It's gonna be a shame that the 18/19 and 19/20 Liverpool team will always be overshadowed by City but I still think they deserve top 5 if not top 3. If they had beaten City at the Etihad they'd have won the league. That's not me saying they should have and are better or anything just saying how close it was and that City team is obviously the best of all time

Liverpool finishing second on 97 points was more impressive than the invincibles

Even though they were talking about "Premier League" keep in mind that winning UCL levaite League Status, points collection doesn't matter. To win multiple trophies one team has to fight on multiple fronts which emits numerous aspects such as the squad quality, tactics, world class players, game management, player management, etc. Winning multiple trophies the whole team most games played. United 08 Team should have been in 2nd position.

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The United treble winners of ‘99 have to be top of this list.

Jurgen Klopp's liverpool is the only team to get 90+ pts without breaking FFP 115 times or help from Putins mate.

Liverpool fan but I think that first Mourinho Chelsea team was the best. Conceding 15 goals in a season is mind blowing

The recency bias of thogdan the child 😮

Good to see Carvalho getting the recognition he deserves

I think people should think about liverpool 18\19 if it was not for john stones clearance liverpool could be invincible centurion and quadruple at the same time

Imagine not even mentioning Liverpool 19/20

Looking at points totals across different seasons is idiotic because that's relative to the competitiveness of those seasons. A better indicator is the gap between 1st and 2nd. If a team wins the league by 20 points, with a total of 80, thats better than winning the league by 1 point and finishing on 99.

Why on Earth was Thogden talking about Phil Neville? Dennis Irwin was their starting left back. There's a reason why in terms of greatest PL left back the conversation normally reverts to Irwin or Cole.

United but right now has to be man city and Liverpool was great in the English league like the one before the Premier league

Manchester City 2018/19. Premier League Title, League Cup and the FA Cup. Never been done before as well as doing all of this while winning 14 games on the bounce to win the league against a Liverpool team which got 97 points and also was UCL champions. That’s the greatest no doubt in my mind

Thankfully it can be quantifiable, fact based and objective: 1. Manchester City in 2017-18, 100 points 2. Liverpool in 2019-20, 99 points 3. Manchester City in 2018-19, 98 points 4. Liverpool in 2018-19, 97 points 5. Chelsea in 2004-05, 95 points

Earliest premier league winners in history Liverpool 2020/2021 not getting a mention the bias is unbelievable

Even as an Arsenal fan, as much as it pains me, the invincibles are not the best team ever. HOWEVER I’m confident enough though to put them up against anyone and give them a good chance of winning. 49 49 UNDEFEATED🔴⚪️

CITY is The Best side ever in Prem history..They play so devastatingly beautiful football..They used to be all about Possession even when it's not working but now, Pep adapts to other teams into dimming down the possessive-style to transition and Counter-attacking football..No one wants a taste of this City side.. Absolutely No one! If they win the Treble, it will eclipse United's 1999 Treble without a shadow of a doubt..Only United fanbase who can't accept reality will try to argue 🤣

Should be teams based on a 3 year period... That's what defines a proper team and represents a phase where a team can be dominant

Rory actually made perfect sense when saying it should be mostly about trophies. Champions league is obviously the most important one. Then the league and lastly the cups. So this is how the ranking should look like: 1. City '23 (if they win the treble) 2. United '99 3. United '08 4. Cty '19 (domestic treble) For 5th you can have your pick either Mourinho's Chelsea, City's centurions or Arsenal invincibles or double winning team. They all had something special and it comes down to personal preference, however that top 4 is just the correct one.

Not having any of Liverpool’s recent sides here is outrageous. I don’t think people realise that if City weren’t there, those Liverpool sides would be undisputedly some of the best Premier League sides to ever exist

Thogden says this man city would batter the 99 team it's a opinion but I would've loved to see how haaland would deal with Japp Stam and Peter Schmeichel because that's a match up right there a real test for haaland

1. Man United 99 treble winning team. 2. Man United 07/08. 3. Arsenal's Invincibles. 4. Chelsea 04/05. 5. Liverpool 19/20. Reason why I am not putting in City's Centurions, Fourmidables and Treble winners is because they have 115 charges pending. Everyone knows they cheated to get those achievements. And NO I am not a United fan.

If you were to combine this city team and uniteds 99 team in 4:3:3 it would go like this Gk) Schmeichel Lb) Irwin Cb) Stam Cb) Diaz Rb) walker Cm) Keane Cm) scholes Cm) KDB St) Cole St) haaland St) Mahrez

How is winning a treble impossible when it's been done? 🤔

If this was about Europe, then it has to be about how many trophies you win, and therefore the Treble winning United team are first, but the title of the video is about PREMIER LEAGUE. So, it has to be based on how well that team did in the Premier League alone, which means the Centurions are probably first.

How's Rory putting Chelsea 2nd and leaving Liverpool 19/20 off the list? Earliest ever title win and if covid never happened they'd have easily broke 100 points... still got 99 as well the 2nd most ever.

Week after City does the treble... combined XI video!! Honestly, people undermine that United team... Giggs, Keane Scholes Beckham... What a quartet (but nowadays no one plays 442! Beckham won't be good playing as RW now in a 3.... his crosses won't be affective with only 1 player to aim for but Keane/Butt/Scholes that would still work in today's game! If you flip it over... quite a few City players now would struggle in a 442 formation... I don't think Rodri/KDB would able to play as a midfield central 2. Mahrez/Grealish/Foden wouldn't be able to play RM/LM like Beckham or Giggs... Silva would be able to tho. And my god Yorke/Cole what a duo... we only play 1 upfront now... so different again... and what about Sheringham and Solskjaer as well 4 very very good strikers

Liverpool 18-20 is criminally disrespected man, we got 97 points one year and 99 points the next