Who is the original Black Dalek Leader?

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10 ай бұрын

Before Dalek Sec, before the Renegade Dalek Supreme, before even the first Black Daleks appeared on Doctor Who in the 1960s, there was the original Black Dalek Leader from the early Dalek comics. Most sources suggest he was the first Supreme Dalek, and many stories concur that this Dalek may have had several appearances in the TV series. But what is the story of this fascinating Dalek commander from the early Dalek lore?
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@jinkschuvisko8772 10 ай бұрын

If this Black dalek is really the same one across all of these accounts, he's the goat

@dalekbumps 10 ай бұрын

It's an example of the contradictory nature of the Daleks across Doctor Who's long history - some sources say that the Black Dalek from the comics is the same one from The Dalek Invasion of Earth. Some other sources say that all of the Black Daleks in Classic Who are the same individual, and there are other sources which suggest that the Black Dalek from the comics is the same one seen in DIoE, The Chase and The Daleks' Master Plan, but that the Black Daleks from Resurrection / Remembrance are a separate Black Dalek. And then there's even more sources (mostly reference guides) which suggest that all of the Black Daleks from throughout Classic Who are all separate individuals. It's one of those things in Doctor Who where you can basically choose which version of the story you want to accept as 'canon', or maybe choose to believe that they're all true and that wibbly-wobbly timeline alterations allow all of these possibilities to exist simultaneously. Yet another reason why the idea of Doctor Who having an established 'canon' is not realistic when you delve into the depths of the lore

@minicle426 10 ай бұрын

@@dalekbumps"Continuity is what I can remember" ~ Terrance Dicks

@electrik_loss 6 ай бұрын

@@minicle426 REAL

@metatron6262 10 ай бұрын

Love this Dalek Unit. Black Dalek designs have always been my favorite, so the original would naturally be one of my favorites in general. Makes it better that he's so competent.

@fatcat8033 10 ай бұрын

Take a shot every time “Dalek” is said .

@legobi_wan_kenobi 10 ай бұрын

So glad someone is talking about this, he's my favourite Dalek from the comics and Classic Who

@GreaterGrievobeast55 10 ай бұрын

Now that's a cool gunstick! And an oddly developed character for a dalek! I've yet to hear of a dalek mutant going out of it's casing on a casing to stay in a tub instead. I wonder if it's more comfortable, it would explain the Emperor and prime minister staying in case cases instead. These black colored leader daleks seem more distinct from the golden supreme ones

@TheRauzKindred 8 ай бұрын

This sounds like it could be such an interesting character, I wonder if they'd ever bring it back as a new nemesis style Dalek, since its unclear on when or if it died. I could imagine it being a very bitter and petty creature after being thwarted so many times as well as the potentially perceived incompetence of members of it's own species. Not to mention it seemed to have a more pronounced personality than other Daleks, which could allow for more creative writing.

@Yoshi0fEarth 4 ай бұрын

Love this channel. My significant other got me into Doctor Who recently and I fell in love with the daleks after the 9th found the one locked in the bunker.

@badwolf66 10 ай бұрын

We haven't seen Black Dalek Leader in nearly 4 decades now! I guess due to their many many failures they were usurped by The Superior Red Supreme Daleks. Dalek Sec was different he was part of an Independent Unit and not of any conquest army so it does not count.

@matteomascaropennacchi2220 10 ай бұрын

I wish BBC brought the First Black Dalek back to screen❤ time😊

@petefischer3820 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video.

@10thdoctor15 10 ай бұрын

If they're even the same Dalek, it is probably a different Dalek and casing in each story.

@JakeandElwood1980 10 ай бұрын

Looks like the original black supreme dalek from the classic doctor who

@matteomascaropennacchi2220 10 ай бұрын

I hope The next Doctor who shows the 1 Black DALEK along with The other black leaders❤,

@michaelkean5969 3 ай бұрын

Thing is you could argue that THE black Dalek was Dalek Sec, considering he was considered the most intelligent Dalek to ever exist and he was a pragmatist who used just a simple black Dalek commander casing. He was even considered above the emperor

@dalekbumps 3 ай бұрын

Perhaps, but there's not really anything connecting the two characters other than the fact that they both use a black casing. We see the Black Dalek (or one of them, depending on which version of events you take as canon) die in Remembrance of the Daleks, so that can't be Sec. Also, the line about Sec and the Cult being 'above and beyond' the Emperor isn't a reference to their rank - more their mission. They still answer to the Emperor, but are not part of the Dalek hierarchy and have been given permission by him to flee the war to ensure the survival of the Dalek race

@10thdoctor15 10 ай бұрын

5:09 This is a really cool design.

@user-rbyee 7 ай бұрын

Wow

@unlimitedgamerworks6125 10 ай бұрын

I'd really like to know more about the supreme council. I think a clear distinction would be the Emperor is the master lf the Empire abd he sets the long term strategy and plans for Dalek supremacy and conquest. The Supreme Council is to govern, direct and manage that vision on a day to day basis. Like a government to a monarch.

@dalekbumps 10 ай бұрын

That's exactly how I see it as well, the Emperor is the sovereign who makes decisions, and the Supreme Council carry them out. In the absence of an Emperor, the Supreme Council appoint a specific Supreme Dalek to be the leader, or they operate as a governing body. If each of the Supreme Council members has ownership over a particular sector of Dalek space, that would explain why the Emperor's death stalled the Dalek's intergalactic war machine, as the different Supremes argued over which sectors of Dalek space should be prioritised

@unlimitedgamerworks6125 10 ай бұрын

@@dalekbumps its a little like the sith empire in The Old Republic the Dark Lords Council was the day to day government, with various powerful and influential Dark Lords of the Sith appointed to it. But the long term planning was the Emperor's domain.

@dalekbumps 10 ай бұрын

@@unlimitedgamerworks6125 exactly!

@zabdielvanegas7397 10 ай бұрын

I think black works well for Dalek leaders. Maybe it's just me but it reminds me of black military uniforms despite being non-human

@zacmumblethunder7466 10 ай бұрын

0:18 Onlybthe Supreme Dalek can.pull.iff the Torch for an eye and purple jam jars on his head look.

@punkeasy 5 ай бұрын

"Who is the original Black Dalek Leader" Was it Martian Luther King Jr.

@Mjk10957 10 ай бұрын

Can you do one on the red daleks

@dalekbumps 10 ай бұрын

Yep, I have a video on Red Daleks planned, as well as videos on some other colour-coded Dalek ranks from the early days of the Daleks

@grahamturner1290 10 ай бұрын

🐙

@thomasjohnson8391 10 ай бұрын

What day will you do the character options dalek figures

@darkapostle1749 2 ай бұрын

I may have asked this previously in another video, but whats the difference between "Dalek Supreme" and "Supreme Dalek", or are they just the same rank?

@dalekbumps 2 ай бұрын

Its the same rank, the show uses 'Dalek Supreme' and 'Supreme Dalek' interchangeably

@darkapostle1749 2 ай бұрын

Ahhh thank you; was just curious!

@timecontroller8800 10 ай бұрын

Where is the evidence that the black dalek leader survived the dalek invasion or earth

@dalekbumps 10 ай бұрын

It comes from the 'The History of the Daleks', written by John Peel and Terry Nation, published in The Doctor Who and the Daleks Book released in 1988. A lot of the information in this book doesn't fit with the established timeline of the Daleks that we know today, but one of the aspects of this story that does seem to have been accepted as 'canon' by both The Astounding Untold History of the Greatest Enemies of the Universe and the Doctor Who Wiki is the idea that the Black Dalek from the comics is the same Black Dalek from The Dalek Invasion of Earth, The Chase and The Daleks' Master Plan

@timecontroller8800 9 ай бұрын

@@dalekbumpsive got to get that book