I added. Gonzalo stampa have been arrested and jail for 6 month and 1 year ban to practice arbitrator.

@@vester7104 yeah suit him. The Spanish court already rejected his arbitration but he went to Paris and gave the final award after Madrid court rejection. That is court contempt and professional intrusion. Found guilty and jailed.

The native and indigenous people of Sabah never accept or never submit to Spanish rule. The inland people never meet even one Tausug originally from Jolo island. Brunei never gave sabah to sulu. In 1877 sultan of Brunei signed 4 agreement documents with Overbeck to cede Sabah. This agreements is proof that Brunei never gave sabah to sulu sultanate. In 1963 the natives choose to be part of Malaysia not Philippines because they never submit the sulu sultanate, never rule by Spanish and never rule by Filipinas.

agree

Agree

This case it seems like between china and UK in jurisdiction of Hong Kong

No it's sulu fault who agree to lease the land they occupied for british protection against the Spanish.

It's evident that british empire is the worst in history. Not only Sabah but the separation of India and Pakistan, their handling of HK, took Palestinian lands and gave them to the jews, not to mention how they wrecked Africa and plundered many countries.

A completely illegitimate, void and unenforceable decision. Stampa’s relocation of the seat of Arbitration to France because the courts of Spain had ordered him to cease the the arbitration makes it COMPLETELY FRAUDULENT and DISHONEST award. Not only it was illegitimate, it is the worst legal misconduct. Sulu is not going to get anything.

time for you to get sarawak…

Thank you brother Indonisia❤️

Pengadu domba.. dari Facebook sampai ke youtube.. kalau begitu riau juga milik Malaysia dibawah kerajaan Riau Johor.. gara2 dipecahkan british belanda.. bila mahu pulangkan riau? Sebab tu past is past goblok!

Sultan of Sulu is not legitimate as the heir r not from rightfully blood n can b challenged, 2nd The Land was given to Sabah with term the Sultan will help Brunei internal rife which the Sulu failed for assistance as promised to Brunei.

Rent is rent. You rent it from the rightful owner. Enough of this bullying from the Malaysians.

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Kala ko lang noon nasama lang para magkasya haha

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Well said!

Well said kabayan well said 👏

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Exactly

If it really rented, then the Sabahan people should be paying it because we lived there. But why was the one paying r not us.. that's was just a corruption money from our leader to the fucking Sulu. Why would we paying rent for our ancestors land. Don't u call our land is ur land, Sulu was just like British, Brunei & Japanese who once colonized this land. It was never your land at the first place anyway.

Until the 2013 attack by Terrorist aka The Royal Army of Sulu

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I'm Sabahan and a citizen of Malaysia no matter how shit they treat us.

@@crowbirdryuell if u are sabahan then speak malay with sabahan accents😏 Boleh bah kalo kau😏

@@crowbirdryuell then you are nothing

@@crenze3348 ya sya paham jgk tu

@@chrisflores5587 alright cringo. Play time over

I'm glad you like the tour of Sabah, but we will most likely not join The Philippines as most Sabahan would most likely rebel against them. Either Malaysia or independence, never the Philippines. I don't hate the Philippines, it's a good country, it's just that Sabah will not be in good hands if it does fall to the Sulu's hand. We know what will happen to us and we will fight to the end for Sabah.

Maybe independence Or Stay within Malaysia federation.Sabahan doesnt want tp be part of Philippines.

If Philippines run Kota kinabalu, The place will become "Ulabanik Otak" 🤣🤣🤣

Don't stay away from the context. The context is all about who is the owner not who is better at governing

@@hijustacommenter10yearsand10 absoloutly.Sulu Sultanate once only have Eastern Sabah as their territory not entire Sabah until Long PASIA and Sipitang etc

The money belong to Sabahans, not some far away defunct sultanate. This is not feudal era. Even Philippines have no kingdom remaining.

it was leased then ceded the term change from agreement in 1878 to 1903

@@ghrbaa6727 sultunate of sulu owns sabah in fact lots of filipino living in sabah so they better pay the sultanate of sulu or else malaysia will be a bankrupt country like sri lanka

@@aludousaberubyin6863 alot but not the majority, according to Sabahans, many dont have sabah identification card. also according to Sabahans. ones that have will show they are citizens of Malaysia not the Philippine.

Sabah belongs to Sulu🌻

The only evidence needed is a palace,army & control whole of philipin.. That is what a Sultan should have..

@@MrRoy2704 it's the descendants of the sultanate of Sulu who won in the arbitral ruling and not the Sultan himself lol try researching more idi*t

@@MrRoy2704 Palace your face, you only watch historical K-Drama that why you saying in real

@@MrRoy2704 No place XD bruh.Having a palace ≠ Sultan or king

@@MrRoy2704 *Claps*Claps* you try to hard bro😂

It is always our fault when things go south??? Well, claim first those bunch of rocks out west and then we'll talk. Sabah will be slums under PH

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you need to be thankful because the sultan of sulu didn't command the ancestors of the sabahan people to leave sabah.

So go back to Kuala Lumpur

WHO KNOWS..... INDONESIA.... SINGULAR.. DU.MB.. MANGMANG... DEPENDS..... MANGMANG..... WE DO NOT RELY NOR DEPEND ON INDONESIA... DU.MB

As Indonesian, we Stand with Philippines over Sabah.

@@Jow_lepard no.. also as an Indonesian, Sabah will be Sabah, Sarawak will be Sarawak, malaysia will be Malaysia, Philippines will be Philippines 😝 they're all seperated...!!! Just like Singapore and Brunei, they all have their own sovereignty...!!! Unless Sabah choose to be with one of them...!!! And the Rights is belong to The three largest indigenous group in Sabah which are the Kadazan-Dusun, Bajau and Murut. It's not Malays or Sulu that have rights over Sabah...!!! It's obvious both Malaysia and Philippines are Hypocrite and just want to colonize sabah...!!!

@@keythegreat4282 Sabah should give back to Sulu as a real owner. Its Haram claim a land dosnt belong to Malaysia. Malaysia should respect The Arbitration court. Its such big dillema for Malaysia, pay the rent.

@@Jow_lepard who said Sulu is the real owner...??? It's not Sulu or Malays rhat owned Sabah...!!! Sabah belongs to their indigenous people...!!! The real Sabahan are The three largest indigenous group in Sabah are the Kadazan-Dusun, Bajau and Murut. Both Malaysia and Philippines are Hypocrite, period...!!?

Who else do you think is the reason behind the India-Pakistan Conflict. And doyou know that Lord Balfour of UK stablished the Jewish stae in the heart of Palestine?

They should pay

@@dannybarcenas9701 they just constantly create war and unrest with Asian and middle eastern countries ,

@@zei7198 in God's time , they will pay for all the bad deeds they have done in this word , IN GOD'S TIME .

why dont you blame the Sultan of Sulu? He signed the agreement that allows all these. Read the agreement:- In February 2022, the Paris Court ruled that Malaysia had violated a treaty signed in 1878 of annual cession payment and would have to pay at least US$14.92 billion (RM62.59 billion) to the descendants of the sultanate of Sulu.[100] In March 2022, Malaysia again filed an application to annul final award over claims by Sultan of Sulu's heirs since the appointment of arbitrator Dr Gonzalo Stampa was itself annulled by Madrid High Court in June 2021, rendering any decisions by him to be invalid including the 2022 award.[101] Lawyers for the heirs indicated that they will seek the award’s recognition and execution, citing a 1958 U.N. Convention on Recognition and Enforcement of Foreign Arbitral Awards.[102][103] In July 2022, court bailiffs in Luxembourg served Petronas Azerbaijan (Shah Denis) and Petronas South Caucus with a "saiseie-arret" or a "seize order" on behalf of descendants of the Sultan of Sulu. Petronas said it would defend its legal position, and further clarified that the entire said asset had been divested in 2021 and all the proceeds had been repatriated,[104] rendering the actions baseless.[105][106] In the same month, the Paris Court of Appeal allowed the Malaysian government's application to obtain a stay order against enforcement of the French arbitration court, since the enforcement of the award would infringe on Malaysia's sovereignty.[107] This effectively suspends the enforcement of the award in any country until a final decision by the Paris court is decided upon.[108] See also First point : Lease in perpetuity Second point : transfers of power and rights to the territories can be done with the consent of the British Majesties

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Brunei also can claim Sabah🤣 at least they have sultan that have power and constitution.

The claim over Sabah from the Sulu Sultanate originates from the Pulau Chermin Civil War and Kinarut Wars which was an internal civil war within the Brunei Sultanate that lasted for 12 years from 1661 to 1673 between two opposing members of the royal household who claimed the throne; Sultan Abdul Hakkul Mubin and Sultan Muhyiddin. The claim over Sabah from the Sulu Sultanate is that either all of Sabah (or some territories within Sabah) was promised to them for aiding Sultan Muhiyiddin in the war. During the final battle in 1673 at Pulau Chermin, Sultan Mubin was defeated but there are conflicting versions as to if the Sulu warriors did indeed fight in the battle or if they merely waited for the battle to be over before ransacking the royal palace at the end of the battle. Prisoners were taken by the Sulu including a son from Sultan Mubin before they departed back for Jolo Island. No demands were made until 15 years later in 1688 when the very same son, named Datu Dakula was sent back to Brunei to claim what was promised to the Sulu Sultanate. There is also a suggestion that the Sulu claim over Sabah comes from Datu Dakula’s heritage as being a surviving son of Sultan Mubin, who therefore inherited all of Sabah as including six territorial dependencies since his father had died and Sabah was presented as a gift to Sultan Mubin’s parents during his wedding by the previous Brunei Sultan, Sultan Saiful Rijal. Sadly, there exists no historical evidence or agreements to support these claims by the Sulu Sultanate that Sabah was given to them by Brunei or if promises were indeed made by the Sultan of Brunei. And so, the Sulu claims appears to have no merit historically in this respect. The Sulu Sultanate were responsible for encouraging bands of pirates under the leadership of various datu’s loyal to the throne to commit acts of piracy, kidnapping and the capturing of natives from coastal villages along the shores of Sabah from the mid-1700s till the late 1800s to be sold as slaves at slave trading markets in the Sulu archipelago. Kidnapping of natives and selling them as slaves was part of a greater economic trade that was incredibly profitable and a lucrative business; slaves provided manpower for plantations, manpower as rowers on war ships, house maids as well as skilled craftsmen for many traders in the Sulu Archipelago as well in foreign lands. And slaves could be used to settle personal debts between various datu’s and businessmen in the Sulu region. The British avoided conflict with the Spanish in the Borneo and Philippine regions but did attack and capture Manila for a short period of time in 1763. They were happy to trade with the Sulu by selling them guns and ammunition which helped them sustain their war with the Spanish until their defeat in July 1878. Balambangan and Labuan islands served as important trading posts for the British to sell guns, ammunition and to barter trade with the Sulu for jungle products and opium. The Spanish, who had ruled much of the Philippines since 1570 had struggled to end the Sulu insurgency in the south for 300 years. They had previously signed many peace treaties after defeating the Sulu Sultanate in battles between the 1600s till the late 1700s but in every instance, once the Spanish had left, the treaties were torn up and completely ignored. The Sulu Sultanate then went back to committing acts of piracy, kidnapping and slavery against not only native villages in Sabah under Brunei rule as well as against Filipino villages in the Philippines under Spanish rule. All this changed by 1875 as the Spanish navy decimated villages loyal to the Sulu Sultan on islands surrounding Jolo Island and then introduced a naval blockade which prevented trade access to the Sulu Kingdom. The Sulu Sultanate were no longer the naval power they once were as the Spanish defeated them comprehensively in many battles and they suffered heavy losses in men and ships. The Sulu were not able to commit acts of piracy, kidnapping and slave trading as the British Navy were directed to stop these pirate attacks in Sabah and to destroy the pirate bases at Marudu Bay and on the east coast of Sabah in the mid-1800s. This too contributed significantly to the decline of the Sulu economy which in turn saw reduced wealth in the royal treasury. ADVERTISEMENT For the Sultan of Sulu, he only had two options in January 1878; surrender to the Spanish as he was on the verge of total defeat or surrender Sabah to Dent and Overbeck and negotiate a deal to re-arm and to be able to continue fighting the Spanish. By establishing a relationship with Dent and Overbeck, he also hoped to have a territory to escape to in the event of defeat and a yearly payment of 5000 pesos to sustain himself and his family for the rest of their lives. By signing the agreement of cession in January 1878, it meant the sultan was willing to sacrifice any claims he may have had on Sabah at a time when the Sultanate was desperate for money and weapons to continue the war against the Spanish as the terms offered by Dent and Overbeck were for a total cession and not for a lease on the territory. It is for these reasons we now understand the pressures the Sulu Sultan faced in 1878 and why he agreed to give up all claims of ownership over territories he claimed in Sabah. Baron Von Overbeck and Alfred Dent saw a business opportunity and signed the agreement to purchase Sabah from the Sultan of Brunei. They then negotiated a similar agreement with the Sultan of Sulu who had overlapping claims over Sabah for 5000 pesos including three shiploads of guns and ammunitions which included a modern American weapon called the gatling gun that could fire 1000 rounds per minute. These historical facts are well documented by Don Carlos Cuarteron, the prefect of Borneo who documented these historical events in his personal diaries which can be viewed today in a book published by Mike Gibby titled “Crowned with the Stars.” It is because of his diaries that have been translated by Mike Gibby that we are now able to establish the real intentions of the Sultan of Sulu with regards as to why he agreed to the terms proposed by Dent and Overbeck and signed the agreement in 1878. The Sultanate of Sulu was forced to surrender to the Spanish in July 1878 after 300 years of bloody war and bloodshed. This final surrender brought about an end to any influence the Sulu would ever have again in the region. So, on what basis did the Sulu Sultanate ever have any claim to Sabah as the royal household were neither originally from Sabah, never lived in Sabah nor had any ancestorial claims to the territory in any capacity going back in time. There were no palaces, no cities and no centres of administration of the Sulu Sultanate in Sabah unlike the Brunei Sultanate who were based in Borneo and historically ruled most of Borneo for almost 6 centuries and had vassals and administrators and Bajau Samah armies based in Mengkabong, Putatan, Abai, Kinarut and even in Marudu. Until the cessation of Sabah in 1877, the entire west coast of Sabah was controlled by the Brunei Pangerans and their Bajau Samah warriors. In the 18th century, any Sulu claims over the east coast of Sabah was simply by the force of arms after the decline of Brunei hegemony with no proper transfer of sovereignty. Much of the controversy of “was it a lease or cessation” begins with Jamalul-Kiram II, the son of Sultan Jamal ul-Azam who had signed the agreement on 22nd January 1878. He replaced his elder brother as Sultan after the passing of Sultan Jamal and began to challenge the British by stating the agreement was a lease agreement and so this confusing narrative that the agreement of cessation was a lease begins, especially within the Philippines. But in the eyes of the Chartered Company and the British Government, there was never any question of the validity of the cessation: Sabah was not the property of the Sulu Sultanate any longer and there was nothing more to discuss on the matter. One aspect of history that further erodes arguments that the Sulu had some form of ownership over Sabah is that is the question of kidnapping and slavery; why would any royal household who claimed to rule over a people subject the very same people to a life of misery and slavery for the rest of their lives? The other historical issue we have found with claims made by the alleged claimants of the Sulu Sultanate today is that the identities of these Sulu claimants are also considered to be very doubtful as they do not allegedly come from a lineage that is linked directly to the Sulu Sultan from the 1800s. Having translated the agreements of cessation signed by the Sultan of Sulu from Jawi into English and Bahasa Malaysia in 2020 whilst researching the agreements, our discoveries were as follows: 1: There does not appear to be an escape clause or exit clause in the agreement, meaning the Sultanate is bound by the agreement forever. 2: There are no penalties for late payment(s) of the annual 5,000 pesos and/or the ability for the Sultanate to cancel the agreement if there is a breach of the agreement due to non-payment by Dent and Overbeck. It is an agreement that does not in any way suggest it is an agreement of lease but rather, what we would today call a “sale and purchase agreement.” the agreement did not appear to favour the seller but favoured the buyer as all rights are given to the buyer for as long as he desires, which essentially means, forever.

@@asrulje8009 All that copy pasting exercise you did was futile because in the end, an international arbitration judge ruled against Malaysia, concluding that the 1878 contract was violated and is now null and void, the contract was a lease and not a cession of Sabah, and Malaysia owes $14.92 billion USD to the heirs of the Sulu Sultanate. That article you copied and pasted was obviously written by a biased Malaysian "think tank", probably paid by elements of the Malaysian state to continue propagating lies in its effort to deceive and manipulate the Malaysian people as to its tenuous hold over Sabah.

It's all the British 💀 probably a war in asia will occur because of this

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Correct "Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide." Senator Jovito Salonga

Let's People of Sabah decide if they wanna be Malaysians or Pinoy

@@strategymythbuster910 same sinario again...

The fact is Sabah, north borneo is an independent state In 1963 as an independent nation, north borneo later sabah has decided to form a new federated country named Malaysian federation together with other independent nation 1.malayan federation 2.singapore(separated in 1965) 3.sarawak 4.sabah(new map north borneo) if sabah decided to separate from the federation it will become independent nation that automatically will be recognized by the united nation just like singapore. My question is, will the philippine accept the situation? or will they takeover sabah by using military force? My assumption is they will choose second option.why? You should ask the sabahan people for the correct answer.

@@2001marnel nowadays a true power is people power, known as democracy.

it was not sold, and no evidence that its sold. return what u borrowed, or ur just a thief.

@@askikaga14 @ even if Sabah is eventually ruled as part of the Philippines. The problem is that the residents of Sabah want their territory to be part of Malaysia. Sabah residents consider themselves as Malaysians.

@@askikaga14 yeah right Let's just casually make another China-Hong Kong and hope it won't worsen like China and Taiwan rn. Nothing could go wrong🤣

@@rebelwind6474 itll be like malaysia as china. cuz they are the one stealing and not recognized as the owner by the international law.

@@askikaga14 doesn't change the fact that Sabahans themselves wanted to be a part of Malaysia, and always will be. Look up Cobbold Commission Report

True for me

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Yes 💯

Filipin is owned by Malaysia and Sumatra Kalimantan is owned by Malaysia

@@LODEH08532 Keep dreaming, because we are now taking back what is rightfully ours 😊

@@myname2096 keep dreaming, because we are now happy forever after

@@LODEH08532 Yah, be happy as we are going to take back what is legally ours 😊

There is no palace , army in sulu. Sulu doesn't exist this claim is not valid..

@@universalchanneltv9394 sulu is part of philippines, what are you talking about not exist,

@@renzranielrayos6085 in ur dream?

@@universalchanneltv9394 yes im dreaming what happen to malaysia hahaha

@@universalchanneltv9394 15billion dollar,hahaha what happen bro,just give the penalty and the rent,then said to the people of the phi. that sabah is part of malaysia,hahaha commonsense bro,🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

ohh my the Sultunatevof Sulu Surrender it rights to Sabah in Philippine soveriegnty don't you know lols

Sultanate of Sulu is now under Philippines territory family Kiram willing under the Government of the Philippines

@@almanalang4283 nope they not give up malaysia rent it but they not pay

Nc comment this is true guysss whoever contradict this statement is ANT BRAIN AND STUPID

Malaysia and Indonesia can understand each other because we use Malay language from Riau and Johor. But Philippines 😅 we Don't understand Tagalog.

"better" r u dreaming

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Jokers telling the audience not to laugh when he is telling jokes

"Until the moon and stars existed" ~ 1878 So?

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As a Bruneian I find this interesting but confusing. Who is really greedy? Phillipines or Malaysia or both? 😉

@@maharirajak5513 it so obvious that the one who gets the most benefit today is the greedy one.

@@maharirajak5513 it's your narrative but one thing of advice please do your research because knowing something is an advantage. Sabah Island was given by the sultanate of Brunei as a reward by helping them during a civil war caused by communists through the help of the soldiers of Sultanate of Sulu the invasion of communists never prospered in return the favor the sultanate of Brunei gave Sabah to the sultanate of Sulu as a gift. In 1890's a British company rented Sabah Island with an amount of 5k+ Mexican dollar proof of payment did by British company and Malaysian government is an legal evidence of the sultanate of Sulu. So, who do you think a greedy one? Please dig deeper the issue don't jump into an issue which you don't know. Is there any issue around the world that the Philippines grabbed islands? Know your history too because Sabah is part of Brunei territory before it was given to the sultanate of Sulu.

@@cebuanomindchannel7592 In fact, I read a lot of Brunei history and I also suggest you to read history of Brunei version, then compare. Chill bro...😉

@@cebuanomindchannel7592 For your info, I do google history of phillipines before, during and after spanish colonialisation. I also google hitory of Sulu.

And they treat sabah sarawak so bad 😞

Now who is the stranger,or in malay language,pendatang,so now malaysia please dont treat suluk as a pendatang because the real owner is sultanate of sulu,tak malu malaysia.

Incident lahad datu, change the Malaysia government decision not to pay rent. Because Filipine government did not respect their neighbors.

@@hufun3789 Is it wrtitten in the contract that Malaysia should stop paying because of certain incursions. Nope, because its an arguable incident and the sultan kin is just practicing his right to visit his property. Royalty escorted by armed security has always been a tradition that you as a malaysian should understand. And besides, because of your arrogance, the cat is out of tha bag now and the whole world knows who really owns sabah. In a way thanks for underestimating us.

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Me as sabah people have to say those filipinos who came to sabah illegally is problematic.. They committed a crime such as robbery, kidnap, raping and more.. I still remember the incident that happened to me few years ago, they use their kids to beg for money and when my car stopped because of the traffic light, those filipinos kids knock the window and ask for money, so i give some to them.. their friends suddenly rushed to my car and ask for some money too and was shocked and scared at the same time.. So i closed my window then some of them showed middle finger to me lol.. Of course, the video u have watch before didn't show about the bad things what filipinos did here because they want to hide it.. Tbh, those filipinos who owned malaysia citizenship is more better than those filipinos who come illegally to sabah. I also have some filipinos friends and we are such a good friend

The descendants of my filipinos friends also live in sabah before the formation of malaysia but still get the malaysian citizenship after the formation?

And who the heck saying that the filipinos here are jobless? They also did some job here like house builder, work in a club, maid and more..

About the humans right, yes i have to admit it that most of sabah people hate those filipinos because of the reason mentioned above.. As sabahan, im so terribly sorry to your filipinos people who were treated like a dog by my own people

Prove it hehehehe.🤣

Already proven in an International Court of Justice to which both Ph and Malaysia participated in. Court ruled in favor of the Sultanate of Sulo. Malaysia cannot show any documents of ownership and has been paying for decades rent money. You are in utter denial of facts but that does not change the Trurh.

Read the agreement 1878...in details... there not a sentence of abritation..

sorry to dissappoint you pinoy, but it is not a done deal as yet. In February 2022, the Paris Court ruled that Malaysia had violated a treaty signed in 1878 of annual cession payment and would have to pay at least US$14.92 billion (RM62.59 billion) to the descendants of the sultanate of Sulu.[100] In March 2022, Malaysia again filed an application to annul final award over claims by Sultan of Sulu's heirs since the appointment of arbitrator Dr Gonzalo Stampa was itself annulled by Madrid High Court in June 2021, rendering any decisions by him to be invalid including the 2022 award.[101] Lawyers for the heirs indicated that they will seek the award’s recognition and execution, citing a 1958 U.N. Convention on Recognition and Enforcement of Foreign Arbitral Awards.[102][103] In July 2022, court bailiffs in Luxembourg served Petronas Azerbaijan (Shah Denis) and Petronas South Caucus with a "saiseie-arret" or a "seize order" on behalf of descendants of the Sultan of Sulu. Petronas said it would defend its legal position, and further clarified that the entire said asset had been divested in 2021 and all the proceeds had been repatriated,[104] rendering the actions baseless.[105][106] In the same month, the Paris Court of Appeal allowed the Malaysian government's application to obtain a stay order against enforcement of the French arbitration court, since the enforcement of the award would infringe on Malaysia's sovereignty.[107] This effectively suspends the enforcement of the award in any country until a final decision by the Paris court is decided upon.[108] See also

@@suriyusof52 French Court Spanish Court...it the Malaysia Court count's... don't be a idiots like stampa...he the biggest crooked.

Filipin, sulu

Yahhh

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Eyh bodoh bahasa Malaysia dan Indonesia lagi sama la, lu cakap dari punggung kau ke?

Maar Likha 👍🤗🇮🇩🇵🇭 Cool same meaning👍👍👍🤗🤗🤗 Langit- langít-Heaven Laut-dagat-sea Angin-hangin-wind Huyan-ulan-rain Lagi-palagi-always Bulan-buwan-(moon)(months) Api-Apoy-fire Babi-Baboy-Pig Ikan-Isda-fish Minum-inom-Drink Makan-Kanin-Rice Biji-Binhi-seed Daun-dahon-leaf Mata-Mata-eye Bibir-bibig(mouth)labi(lips) Lembut-malambot-soft Telinga-tenga-ears Hidung-ilong-ilung-nose Bau-Bahu-(amoy)smell-(mabahu)-smelly Bangsa-Bansa-Country

tontolou ko bau tai tasu😊

I saw your tribal people in Indonesia similarities to our tribal people in Mindanao the way they talk similarities also the language they used🤗🤗🤗

Here are some words that I find very similar to Ilokano that has the same spelling and meaning to the malaysian words you've shown. Btw Ilocano or Ilokano is a dialect here in the Philippines that is spoken in the northern part of Luzon. ☁️ langit (sky) 💨 angin (wind) 🌙 bulan (moon) 🐟 ikan (fish) 🍚 makan (eat) 👁️ mata (eye)

simple minded non-touching grass fellow

@@giannitn6382 If greed takes over your mind and breaks the agreement, karma has it's own way to charge you big time. 😆

Haha! Read from Malay mail online you'll be very clear. A compensation paid by the British. The seized assets were already sold. Our AG offer a new amount plus interest offered to the heirs lawyer. Those writing this is totally irrelevant

@@rosalindwong9609 the main thing is that you Malaysia don't own Saba that's why Malaysia is paying rent for it in perpetuity. Malaysia should have not stopped paying rent then this problem wouldn't have occurred.

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Real owner are the descendants of the Sultanate of Sulu. But the heirs they gave Philippines authority to get it back. So technically Sabah is part of Philippines.

Sabah will be returned in 2026.

even marcus BONG BONG can't speak Malay, how you can claim Sabah ? LOL

@@kimjongun7714 lmao what the heck is your point? HHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

@@kimjongun7714 tell that to North Korea

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Source please. I can't Google it or did you just make it up?

@@raikey2176 Just type " bloomberg french sulu court arbitration 2023". Bloomberg is one of world reputable media on financial, investment and business information. Not PH nor Malaysia media as to avoid bias. Now your turn to show Sulu already become billionaires as claimed to have won the court case. Or you make it up?

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@@aseananalytics Looks like Malaysia bribed the corrupt French judges.

@@hopelope1703 Malaysia is a sneaky country as it hosts some Islamic terrorist groups connected to ISIS. Not surprised if they bribed the corrupt French judges that reversed the last year decision.

Like the sultanate, b.n.b company is defunct

I am from Malaysia has read all your comments, if Sabah is handed over to the Philippines then where do we refucute😄

They are British. What do you expect from the British? I'm sure that they were grinning a lot while handing Sabah to Malaysia. They can already see the conflict in the future. That is their plan all along. Remember, wherever the British go, chaos follows.

So its was clearlly that this chaos was created by this british company and im sure they are all dead by now how about their descendants maybe they can help to setled this problem once and for all.Both cointries are member of asean which keep the association disunited.I think we need the very best mind to end this problem.

..There was no such as Return ..Koz it was a hidden agenda between sultan Sulu and British Company ( refer to East India Company) Do the Deeds / agreement ( Pajak ) to British Company without the Consent of Raja of North Borneo ..That deeds ( Pajak ) was sign in the Island of Sulu where the Palace of Sultan of Sulu located not inside The Palace of Raja of North - Borneo..not found any record..

This is final ok.. Only way for Pilipin to win.. Pilipin can claim sabah.. Can claim whole borneo also.. Pilipin will win.. But 3 important citeria.. A palace..,a huge army..,lastly is full authority of Pilipin.. 3 criteria of a Sultan.. Show the world that the Sultan of pilipin have all that then people will know is genuine Sultan.. Or else pilipin wont get a thing..

As brunai...

Court decided payment should be made, but not decided pay to who among dozens of self claim sultan that has no country, no state and no sovereign over anything.

@@thatsawesome2060 that is small court only where u pay then decision on your side.. Its just like scamming.. Malaysia already seek higher court from spain & france.. both higher court requested to close the case because case dont have strong proof.. No palace,no army & no authority all over pilipin.. Need to have the 3 proof..

same thing, if sultan brunei claim the philipines...

Hah ...what similarities do we have sir besides being human?

@@Gondu Don't you like to be Filipino AGAIN after more than 100 years after even being noted as Malaysians in the first place or would you like bringing back Sabah to Brunei after it was given to Sultanate of Sulu more hundred years ago ?

Why do I like to be a Filipino sir? We have never been Filipino ever. Is the BARMM peaceful and prosperous sir?

My apologies. If the natives of Sabah have this identity crisis or being confused whether if they're Malaysians, Filipinos or originally Bruneians before it was given to Sulu Sultanate hundreds of years ago, I would rather see Sabah as an independent State or country instead.

@@izumihanagata1148 maybe you are having a wet dream that the native of Negara Sabah have ever consider themselves as people of the Philippines sir?

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Why Rejected? Americam History say ," That Sultan of Sulu has no Right over The State of Sabah ( see History in Time of American Trading Company operate in Sulu island in 18thC ..under General Persing 1.

@@julkeplehjaafar5221 True, Sulu has no right to claim Sabah. That is why their application to court been rejected. This is about arbitral awards whereby in any country the arbitration law requires that the claimant to produce arbitration agreement or clause. But Sulu do not have it. It just denote that Sulu is making claim that is NOT theirs. Both Sulu and the lawyers are trying to make big bucks.

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"Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide." Senator Jovito Salonga

No they're just poor and need money pfttt as a sabah citizen philippines will never be welcome neverr...we will not accept pagpag country buuu

Yeah sultan of Sulu has been deceived and abused. Lose they mornachy power and land which is Sulu archipelago to the colonists and today Philippine gov.

they have not been deceived. Read the agreement made by the SUltan of SUlu themselves:_ We, Sri Paduka Maulana Al Sultan MOHAMMED JAMALUL ALAM, Son of Sari Paduka Marhum Al Sultan MOHAMMED PULALUM, Sultan of Sulu and of all dependencies thereof, on behalf of ourselves and for our heirs and successors, and with the expressed desire of all Datus in common agreement, do hereby desire to lease, of our own free will and satisfaction, to Gustovus Baron de Overbeck of Hong Kong, and to Alfred Dent, Esquire, of London, who act as representatives of a British Company, together with their heirs, associates, successors, and assigns forever and until the end of time, all rights and powers which we possess over all territories and lands tributary to us on the mainland of the Island of Borneo, commencing from the Pandassan River on the east, and thence along the whole east coast as far as the Sibuku River on the south, and including all territories, on the Pandassan River and in the coastal area, known as Paitan, Sugut, Banggai, Labuk, Sandakan, China-batangan, Mumiang, and all other territories and coastal lands to the south, bordering on Darvel Bay, and as far as the Sibuku River, together with all the islands which lie within nine miles from the coast. In consideration of this (territorial?) lease, the honorable Gustavus Baron de Overbeck and Alfred Dent, Esquire, promise to pay His Highness Maulana Sultan Mohammed Jamalul Alam and to his heirs and successors, the sum of five thousand dollars annually, to be paid each and every year. The above-mentioned territories are from today truly leased to Mr. Gustavus Baron de Overbeck and to Alfred Dent, Esquire, as already said, together with their heirs, their associates (company) and to their successors and assigns for as long as they choose or desire to use them; but the rights and powers hereby leased shall not be transferred to another nation, or a company of other nationality, without the consent of Their Majesties Government. Should there be any dispute, or reviving of old grievances of any kind, between us, and our heirs and successors, with Mr. Gustavus Baron de Overbeck or his Company, then the matter will be brought for consideration or judgment to Their Majesties’ Consul-General in Brunei. Moreover, if His Highness Maulana Al Sultan Mohammed Jamalul Alam, and his heirs and successors, become involved in any trouble or difficulties hereafter, the said honorable Mr. Gustavus Baron de Overbeck and his Company promise to give aid and advice to us within the extent of their ability. This treaty is written in Sulu, at the Palace of the Sultan Mohammed Jamalul Alam on the 19th day of the month of Muharam, A.H. 1295; that is on the 22nd day of the month of January, year 1878. In the agreement it was clearly stated lease in perpetuity. Also, in the agreement stated the lease can change hands with the consent of the Majesties. When Malaysia was formed and Sabah invited it must with the consent of English ruler otherwise it will not happen.

And as Sabah citizen we dont need philippines poor country buu pagpag coutnry 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻 stop bother our country, go awayy pagpag country ..sultan sulu dont exist anymore for along time 🤮🤢

As what you said "Malaysia does not have the right to interpret the contract because they are not party of the contract done between the British North Borneo Company and the Sultanate of Sulu." FACTS OF THE FACTS.

Absolutely Right .. "Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide." Senator Jovito Salonga

how can you say its illegal when the un already declare and agreeing that sabah is under the malaysian rulling? we already sign the contract and already happen. you reallly think you can do something but in fact its not that simple buddy. you really think malaysia will give sabah as simple as that? you really think malaysian will happily accept philippine? you really think malaysian will not defend our right and our freedom? i will happilly die defending my beloved country!!

@@khairuladamrexcel1105 LOL ur argument here is baseless we won go to international court and defend ur country using ur baseless arguement let's se what happen ahhahahahhahaha i know what happened then ahhahahahhahahahahaahhahaha ur funny man keep dreaming

Well said.

Center of trade lol 😁

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We are all descendants from one race of people..dont you think

and we are with the same race just ruined by the european colonizers

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because Malaysia and Indonesia are British colony before. 75% of the world become British empire.

@@iansanchez6255 Correction: Indonesia is a former dutch colonies.

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Owns.. Not. Owned. Until now. Present tense.. Du.mb

Tell the world where is palace,army & control of whole phillipin if he is real Sultan..? Make him real Sultan 1st.. Not a fake Sultan like Fake Taxi.. Then talk about claim Sabah.. He can also claim Kalimantan if he is genuine Sultan..

@@MrRoy2704 they have proofs that's why they won the arbitral ruling 😄 Just accept the fact the Malaysian government grab the Sabah to include in your country. The lease agreement was done between a private land owner and a private company. That agreement was done before your country was formed.

@@MrRoy2704 lmao u cringe... Just cry while we take your land Sabah 😂😂😂

@@MrRoy2704 The Sultanate of Sulu ceded his sovereignty to the PH gov't in 1962 before MalAsia became a monarchy. Don't compare us to you MalAsia, we are a constitutional republic. We are a republic just like Indonesia

Sorry..Final judgenent is being suspended..Malysian side ll get the judgement to been deem void..In the end,sulu ll get nothing..heheee

@@megroslmegr7504 You don't seem to know that decisions of Arbitral Courts seldom get reversed or set aside on appeal.

The stay order was only applicable to France not no the entire 168 state member of UN. Tthe arbitrary award is still enforeceable to other country, unless Malaysia get stay order to 168 states..

Malaysia stopped paying after Philippines terrorist attacked Lahad Datu. Sabah in 2013. Any country would stop paying when such attack took place

@@aseananalytics check your facts

.. there was no conflicting in Translation of Wording ..its clear " Pajak " means wholy Sold without return annually as Long as British Company Stay in North Borneo as Trading Post..The only Dispute ,Why the Land -Lord ( Raja of North ) was not called to Come as a witness ..it look-like a Hidden Agenda between SULU &British Company ..and now became a big issue to Both country , Phi & Mal..

annually paid ..RM 5k..

Raja of North Borneo..( Sabah )..

The conflicting translation was caused by Malaysia.

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All of you are just renting the land. It's a fact. Malaysian government knows it and denying it! All of you will loose the arbitration case. just so you know Sabahan originally inhabitants are Tau Sug tribes. Sulu is the real owner of the land you leased and all of the Natural resources from North Borneo owns by the Sovereign of Sulu Heirs. #FrenchArbirtrationCourt Brunei Darrusalam Imperial Family knew who were the real heirs and it was not Malaysia. sorry guys but all of you are just "LEASING". Your Government must pay the "HEIRS OF SULU IMPERIAL FAMILY" and talk about Bilateral peace talks.

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Territorial ...mangmang

Is to blame. Is to be blamed

All of THESE.. MANGMANG

mangmang. Edukadong tao kausap mo. I won't say mangmang to you. It bounced back to you. Mal edukado ka

Typographic error turned me into mangmang haha. Ikaw na english major

imaginary sultanate

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Sulu had already part of Philippine ..no more part of North Borneo thou olden days part of the Territory of Sultan of North - Borneo ..any payment or lease or rent or Chartered All Ended..if Sultanate of claimed to Malaysia is already invalid ..if insisted should be pursue to British Authority..its was the British Company Agreement With Sultan of Sulu not with Sultan of North Borneo..Why Malaysia pay..its not the responsible of Malaysia any more ..its British ???

It doesn't matter what you copy paste...that's a non-binding opinion...what is binding and what matters is the judicial ruling of a court...and that court has ruled that Sabah was only leased to the British North Borneo Company which means the British and subsequently the Malaysians do not own Sabah.

@@zekefister8294 ; That called ' leased or Pajak or what ever it is ..Its a one -sided Agreement between Sulu's Sultan and British Company ( East India Company) The Land Lord ( Raja of North-Borneo ) was not present and no Consent from His authority thou He has its own Palace inland Sabah..That Deeds was a Hidden Agenda ( British & Sulu ) ..Sign outside the Palace of Raja of North -Borneo ..Sign in the Palace of the Island of Sulu..That deed not legitimate for the Resident of Sabah or Subjeks of Raja or Sultan of North Borneo..olden days even before 2nd WW2 ..Sulu part of North - Borneo ..whom Sultan of Sulu has no Right over the State of Sabah ..Koz British Company ( North Borneo Chartered Company already Chartered The Whole State of North Borneo..from Maharaja of North Borneo whom Sultan Brunei was only a Proxy..until 1946...by Paying RM18k..annually..( from state Archive )..

@@julkeplehjaafar5221 if whatever nonsense you posted has any argumentative substance to it, why did malaysia lose in court?

@@zekefister8294 ; its all documented in State Archive..Why the Claimant of Sultan of Sulu was rejected ..its one of The 20 points devicted in That points..

this is a warm support from our brothers and sister in indonesia❤ we remember our friendship we filipinos never leave you when indonesia have crisis year 1998 only philippines lend a help from indonesia but malaysia backstab you that time.

@@neilvin6325 Malaysia, a neighbor that is not friendly with Indonesia, always provokes and steals culture, territory and whatever it is, all Indonesians hope that Sabah returns to the territory of the Sultanate of Sulu as its original owner.

penyibuk

Gila 🤣🤣

Philippines and sulu don't respect that Sabah is part of malaysia, Than why we should respect your stupid court

@@ansarullah3379 Sabah part of Malaysia? Since when? And if Sabah is part of Malaysia, why Malaysia is paying a rent to Sulu? It's simple, it means Malaysia Don't own Sabah.

They dont need as long as they can keep all their assets overseas in their yard but thats is tough as malaysian airlines flying overseas can be seize too.

Share ko lang dito kasi nakita ko sa kabilang forum which is very true about Sulu Sultan. Ctto Ito ang katotohanan na dapat natin malaman. May nag comment: Iba daw si Sultan Jamalul alam sa Brunei at iba din daw si Sultan Jamalul alam ng Sulu. Dalawa daw Sultan Jamalul alam. Ang sagot: Dalawa din ba si Baron von Overdeck, meron sa Brunei at meron din sa Sulu?? With same time and year ??? Lol ano sya nag multo? Hahaha FYI, nag iisa lang si Sultan Jamalul alam! Nag iisa lang din si Baron Overdeck na isang agent ng British North Borneo company. Sultan Jamalul alam I signed the Sabah leased contract in Sulu in the year 1878 kasi that time nasa Jolo, Sulu siya at doon nya pinapunta si Baron Von overdeck kasi Sultan Jamalul Alam also owns Sulu as part of Brunei pero nagbalik na sya sa Brunei kasi Sultan din sya doon after all come and go lang naman mga Sultan ng Brunei sa territory nila gets?? Venue lang issue jan kung saan nya pinirmahan ang lease contract kasi yun ang dapat nakalagay sa legal document about the place/venue of execution of the lease contract. Later on Sultan Jamalul alam I died his grandson Sultan Jamalul alam II renewed the lease Contract with the same lessee BNBC. Prior to that lease agreement it was Sultan Abdol Momin of Brunei (their ancestor) who first leased Sabah to the BNBC, the contract was said to be renewable kaya that time kung sino nakaupo Sultan ng Brunei they can renew the contract with BNBC nasa Brunei library yan. The was also evidence that Sulu is part of Brunei when the son of the Sultan of Brunei Pengiran Muda ak.a Datu Jamasali was appointed Governor of Sulu in 1888 and got married to a Sulu woman and they had one child born in Brunei Palace and grew up in Sulu, said royal Princess was kept in Sulu for her safety due to the constant invasion of the British forces in Brunei in early 1900s. She was one of the legal heiress of Sabah and Sulu up to Brunei, Datu Jamasali became Regent Sultan of Brunei appointed by his father Sultan Jalilul Hashim Alam Aquimiddin who was in the advance age and cannot anymore carry the responsibility as Sulan of Brunei. As per Brunei Museum records Dayang Dayang Piandao Jamasali Bolkiah was the legit only child of the regent Sultan of Brunei and Sulu. Actually meron gustong umagaw sa Jamasali Sulu throne. tapos itong mga pekeng sultan sa Sulo nagpanggap na heirs kasi sa Sulu daw ginawa ang lease contract kaya sila daw tatanggap Ng mamanahin hahahaha lol mga scammers..never Yan mangyayari kasi lahat Ng mamanahin ay mapupunta lahat sa Bolkiah Royal family ng Brunei kasi Grandson ni Sultan Jamalul alam si Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah. Gets nyo na? Kaya wag maniwala sa mga drama effect Ng mga fake heirs/impostor Jan kasi magaling sila mag twist ng story at ayaw na ayaw nila malaman Ng publiko na may totoong version ang Brunei about sa true history ng Sulu Sultanate which andun sa Brunei Museum ang napaka laking mapa ng Sulu na included sya sa mapa ng Sultanato Ng Brunei at may legal claim ang Sultan Brunei sa Sulu kasi UN Court ruling na nagsasabi na illegally annexed ang Sulu by the U.S. sa Pilipinas. Alam Ng Department of Foreign Affairs yan. Dapat maunawaan natin ang buong katotohanan at wag maniwala sa maling storya ng fake heirs. Ang totoo gusto nila gamitin mga Pilipino upang makipag away sa Malaysia at masayang masaya sila pag awayin ang dalawang bansa para sila sumikat. Kawawa ang mga kababayan kapag manatiling mag papagamit sa maling paraan. Sabah belongs to Malaysia not Philippines. The former Presidents of the Philippines Ferdinand E. Marcos, Corazon C. Aquino, Fidel Ramos, Benigno Aquino III and others already drop the Sabah claim and surrendered its claim already since 1970s after UN court ruled Sabah belongs to the Sultan of Brunei. The Sultan of Brunei gave Sabahans chance to join Malaysia in 1966 referendum since Brunei did not join the Federation of Malaysia instead chose to be separated. Philippines failed to present evidence to the UN court such as cessation agreement, it is one of the best evidence for a Nation to claim a certain territory. This case was brought by Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah before the UN Court over his territorial rights over Sulu after the U.S. invaded Sulu and never gave Sulu back to the Sultan of Brunei instead the U.S. Illegally annexed Sulu to the Philippines without the consent or in the absence of a cessation agreement from the Sultan of Brunei. The UN court has favored the Sultan of Brunei and obligated the Philippines to return Sulu to the Sultan of Brunei.

@@quickthinker7582 wala ka maloloko dto hahahaha... Dami mo cnabi pero nanalo na sultanate of sulu. Sa atribunal court. Kaya respect nlang at sundin nlang hatol. At ng lumayas na kayo jan sa sabah mga malaysian. Wala na kau karapatan jan.. Dlwa lang pag pipilian nyo magbayad kayo ng 14.billion dollars or lilisanin nyo na sabah.. Sabah part of the phillipines.. Okk

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Do you have IC? Illegal immigrant??

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can you show your ic

There is a treaty, and the document is still in existence. And it is true that the right was transferred from own company to another but still controlled by the British royalties.

@@aseananalytics As far as i know they manipulated the translation of word "Padjakkan" from lease to ceded I did not watch your whole video yet so im gonna watch

It was discussed in the video....

@@aseananalytics Ok thankyou :D

The British should also give justice based on their participations of spoiling history

If sulu become sultan.. Did you filipino want him become your new sultan.. That meaning your president are useless.. Think positive.. And wisely

I guess your letter is too late as the damage had been done. Furthermore, your letter was an offer and subject to acceptance. If the heirs did not accept your offer you can't do anything about that.

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Keep it up, Maybe another 50 years

@@ellyja6764 the land grabber is dreaming! The world knows who is th real owner of the land😆😅😂🤣

@@fernandocruz4877 Yes, Malaysia lol

@@ellyja6764 MalAysia lose in the international arbitration court. MalAysia must pay $14.9B in compensation to the injustice MalAysia done the Sultanate of Sulu, which owns the land😂🤣

@@fernandocruz4877 Google still showing Sabah, Malaysia😪ask them to change if you able to otherwise your PH is confusing yourself 🤭

No

One of the STATES

Pag pag🤭🤭

Federalism is still not plausible at the moment.... Philippines needs a constitutional convention/amendment because of Aquino's 1987 constitution is fuckup... The Philippines should start chacha and redesign a better federal government concept that the every region needed

Sultanate of sulu should become an autonomous region where Sabah belongs. Just like the bangsamoro and armm.

Forcefully? You can't even deal with insurgency in your own land, if you take Sabah expect spillover into your mainland. Not to mention Malaysia's military response.

@@ricecooker6615 insurgency funded by Malaysian Government.

@@ricecooker6615 is this even a threat? Bring it on then we can end this blood by blood. The Sabah is historically belonged to Philippines 🇵🇭 to begin with.

@@ricecooker6615 MalAysian is braggart🤣 Do you think you can threaten us by your military as if you have military prowess.😆😅😂🤣 Even the superpowers can't intimidate us. Never heard of MalAysia military capability😆😅😂🤣

@@ricecooker6615 I think you and the malaysia will be put in a big oven if it happens. For centuries and back then, PH ( A maharlika kingdom) was once a superpower in the region. and PH during President FEM is a powerful nation second to japan. PH can take sabah by force back then the only prob is one senator revealed his plans. Back off. Heirs of the Sultanate of SULU is the rightful owner of the sabah.

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sulu be part of malaysia speak Malaysian not tagalog

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You're quite lucky because the owners and his people were living in Poverty because the Land he owns was occupied by others whose illegally inherited from a person whose only leased it from it's owner. Not to mentioned how the current occupier where trying to destroy the heirs of the owner by creating conflicts and wars in his home with the used of his illegally occupied land by the renters whose only squatters but acts like they owned it.

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Ironically philippines government never recognised sultan sulu🥱 Philippines government just want that piece of land,they don't care about sultan of sulu.

Absolutely Right... "Our claim is mainly based on the following propositions: that Overbeck and Dent, not being sovereign entities nor representing sovereign entities, could not and did not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that on the basis of authoritative British and Spanish documents, the British North Borneo Company, a private trading concern to whom Dent transferred his rights, did not and could not acquire dominion and sovereignty over North Borneo; that their rights were as those indicated in the basic contract, namely, that of a lessee and a mere delegate; that in accordance with established precedents in International Law, the assertion of sovereign rights by the British Crown in 1946, in complete disregard of the contract of 1878 and their solemn commitments, did not and cannot produce legal results in the form of a new tide." Senator Jovito Salonga

Edham Bin Othman I think that’s besides the point, recognized or not, the legality of all the undertakings clearly defines the rightful owner. As to whether the Philippine govt recognizes the sultanate or not is between the Phils and the sultanate only

Why didnt the Sultan Sulu take the land before the formation of Malaysia? or even before Sabah achieve independence? maybe the Sultan didnt have power over the people living in his land. Why? because it was Brunei who is more involved and Sulu just took the land as gift. and Brunei was the righteous owner. Also if the British was not here the Japanese would have take over it anyway. After years of sovereignty, now Sabah is more establish than the Sultan's place. The 2013 attack was claimed not associated with the actual family but who knows. After the attack Malaysia stopped paying. Why was there no issue about the payment before? who knows maybe to gather all the evidences only to enter a court that is not recognized by our Govt. so let the legal matters to the court.

Let's People of Sabah decide if they wanna be Malaysians or Pinoy

Yes, belong to where you belong, to the Sultanate of Sulu. You're just the milking cow of semenanjung malasyan. Semenanjung malasyan siphoned the fats of the land and rich natural resources of North Borneo (Sabah) w/c doesn't belong to them, semenanjung malasyan is a land grabber😂🤣

A friendly advice Philippines has now the Highest growth rate in all of asean... choose your route wisely. but the owner of the land is still gonna be the one to decide.

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JUST SABAH.. NOT .. ENTIRE BORNEO MANGMANG

Did sultan sulu still exist

@@LODEH08532 does sultan of sulu exist ? Wrong grammar .du.mb

@@ravishing-troop5276 I don't think so That why lah north Borneo not belong to sulu Do u understand

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Which race?

@@xensored03 sabahan

@@defendtheweakdestroytherav4050 Sabah is not race , it a state name🙄 my race is kadazan dusun from Sandakan Sabah🙄

@@xensored03 sabah is not a race it is a place, sabahan Is native people of sabah

@@defendtheweakdestroytherav4050 Sabahan is not a race🙄 there a lot of race in Sabah. Which race is your ancestors in Sabah🤣 The name "Sabah" never existed until 1963 where it Become independence (old Sabah known as North Borneo)

COLONIES.. COLONIZERS.. MANGMANG

Palitan mo na lang pangalan at apelyido mo kung di mo matanggap saka convert ka sa first religion ng native ng pinas na animism saka mag bahag ka mag pa tattoo ka sa katawan

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Exactly

Real owner is only for Sabah people.. because the Sabah country have a native/original race which is “Kadazan dusun, Bajau, Malay brunei, sungai, and others” according UNESCO, Kadazan dusun is originally race in SABAH country. And half of non-native race in Sabah stay in Sabah it’s called foreigner, from sulu territory at Phillipines. So, when follow my logic opinion is, the owner and the rights is more belongs to SABAH PEOPLE only. Sultan sulu is just come to SABAH . But the real race and the real owner is native race from Sabah country. So, SABAH PEOPLE more have rights to make decision to create their own country.

@@chelfmatencis1996 sabah people are the people of the sultanate of sulu. You should respect your sultan who owns the land. Or you might just be what we call Squatters of the land. Your country can't even provide facts and documents to win the Arbitral Case. Sultan hiers had it and even signed by your former leaders. So Logically speaking, Your hear say vs Facts and Documents are way too far from reality.

@@chelfmatencis1996 let us talk about facts and documents of ownership. Can you provide one?

SEIZE NOT SIEZE MANGMANG

Sabah, tanah airku Negeri kita yang tercinta Pemuda-pemudi Semua marilah Bangunlah bersatu semua Marilah bersama serta maju jaya Merdeka sepanjang masa Bersatu segala bangsa sentosa Sabah negeri merdeka

you think hundred years old agreements that has been overrided by other treaty and agreement still has standing?

@@suriyusof52 Malaysian government pay they rent up to 2013 then they stop so what is the meaning of this?

@@lovefair6921 because The Sulu ppl attacked Sabah

@@aimandarwisy2736 sulu people attacked sabah because of stopped paying

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What's the story with Sipadan and Ligitan islands?

Sulu also claims sebatik island in indonesia and all the island that belongs to Indonesia.

@@wavemaker2077 Sipandan Linggitan, Riau Island , Natuna Island . Malaysia Claim. But only sipandan Linggitan to Malaysia

It ‘was’

@@Historyflag What?That doesn't even make sense.

@@Historyflag only some parts of southern Philippines and parts of North Borneo were under the Sultanate

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The Fact is that the Gov't officials kept the issue of the Sultanate claim from its People

@@dannybarcenas9701 the government probably don't want it's people to freak out

betul ke paham?

@@gemasri5954 yeah I understand

faham

Haha koyak translate kau ingat orang Sabah serawak nk ke gabung dgn Filipina? Mimpi la kau

@@facewall9252 Technically speaking Sabah is a private property of the Sultanate of Sulu. Therefore those living there are just trespassing/ squatting in the land. Keep that in mind. Sabah is not Malaysia nor Philippines, but since the heirs of Sultanate of Sulu chose the Philippines as its successor of its property which is Sabah, therefore the Philippines need to step up to get Sabah from being part of Malaysia. Learn English to be more educated. :)

@@facewall9252 the first stage of grief is called DENIAL

@@kapdaze1583 but the Sultanate of Sulu heirs said whatever Sulu owns, the Philippine owns. She even said I'll have the Philippine govt take care of that.

@@facewall9252 continue paying monthly rent or pay the total due $14.9 billion, otherwise, give it back to the original owner, Philippines, better yet be ready to have your assets abroad be seized and taken over.

Tama grabe gnagawa nila sa mga pilipino na nkatira dati dyan pnang pauwe sa pilipinas d nman pla knila yan

They can't go to school etc because they are tnt The same if illegal alien children are in philippines Indonesia are the ones behind Islamic extremists not Malaysia

Its not clear whether they participated or not what is clear is they are a member of the arbitration court and many of their overseas assets are in the hands of its members and they are obliged to respect the arbitration court rulings, so ignoring the rulings is not a wise option or a way out of the mess.

Mindanao is part of tanah melayu Malaysia

@@miekidek5031 "Malaysia" in its current name has become a country since when? Mindanao was become part of Spanish territory since 15th century.

@@miekidek5031 lol

The Real owner is only for Sabah people.. because the Sabah country have a native/original race which is “Kadazan dusun, Bajau, Malay brunei, sungai, and others” according UNESCO, Kadazan dusun is originally race in SABAH country. And half of non-native race in Sabah stay in Sabah it’s called foreigner, mostly from sulu territory at Phillipines. So, when follow my logic opinion is, the owner and the rights is more belongs to SABAH PEOPLE only. Sultan sulu is just come to SABAH . But the real race and the real owner is native race from Sabah country. So, SABAH PEOPLE more have rights to make decision to create their own country.

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The SABAHANS should choose what nationality what they want.

They can apply for a dual citizenship.

Exactly

@@CypressC2j i agree and if they want to be a filipino then they can stay if not then leave its not like we want those people what we want is the land if they dont agree and want to be malaysian then they should go to malaysia and leave sabah its not like they have any rights to that land the princess of sulu owns it which means what they own The philippines also owns

says who?? WHo gives you the right to make any judgement? Read this before making any foolish sttements. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Borneo_dispute You think the international authority will try to break up Malaysia? The most they will do is fine Malaysia and ask Malaysia to pay some amount to the Sulus which i am sure will not be an exorbitant amount as the rightful people to earn this monies is the Sabahan people themselves.

Blame the British. They created this turmoil when they included Sabah in the newly formed independent Malaya Federation in 1963 with total disregard to the outstanding 1898 Lease Contract by the Sulu Sultanate

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it's not sovereignty but land rights, which is what Sultan of Sulu leased to the British and their successors forever.

• International Court of Justice in 2002, the sultan of Sulu relinquished the sovereign rights over all his possessions in favour of Spain, based on the "Bases of Peace and Capitulation" signed by the sultan of Sulu and the crown of Spain in Jolo on 22 July 1878. • The sultanate's political power was relinquished in March 1915 after American commanders negotiated with Sultan Jamalul Kiram on behalf of Governor-General Francis Burton Harrison. An agreement was subsequently signed, called the "Carpenter Agreement". By this agreement, the sultan relinquished all political power over territory within the Philippines. • After the death of Sultan Mahakuttah A. Kiram, the Philippine national government has not formally recognised a new sultan. Mahakutta's Crown Prince Muedzul Lail Kiram, the heir to the throne according to the line of succession as recognised by the Philippine governments from 1915 to 1986..

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@@aseananalytics if you pay the lease then it's proven that the was leased not sold to them. This is just a technicalities issues.

They're not happy to be with us. Yung iba kse gusto nila d sila sa atin nor sa malaysia

Selamat datang ke filipin sulu malaysia

Bah palan-palan 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@Aeeio_ hello 👋 from sabah 😉 well those who aren't happy mostly are malay 🙊 we Chinese people in sabah as i call sabahnese we don't care if is MY/PH as long as we can live in peacefully. When the time comes please treat us fair as in human not animal.

@@deonling2906 we are kind to kind people

Filipin belong to sulu

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