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Who killed the Electric Car? A response to Fully Charged Show

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Geoff Buys Cars

Geoff Buys Cars

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@mooseyman74
@mooseyman74 Жыл бұрын
I want to see an electric car ad where the user gets home and has on street parking, not a designer pad with a big driveway
@SalemikTUBE
@SalemikTUBE Жыл бұрын
Ah but those with a large designer pad are going to be the only ones driving and flying of course. There simply are not the materials or the power for the plebs to drive and they know it. The plug will be pulled soon and the people will stuck in their 15 minute neighbourhood.
@charlessmith2469
@charlessmith2469 Жыл бұрын
Haha stop all those car ads where there’s completely empty roads and you can always park right outside your destination!
@cloudbasenirvana
@cloudbasenirvana Жыл бұрын
@@charlessmith2469 - or cold winter road conditions like last winter in the USA when so very many died in EVs as the cold killed their batteries and the froze to death stranded on the highway.
@Bobo-ox7fj
@Bobo-ox7fj Жыл бұрын
@@cloudbasenirvana Woah, did this actually happen? Got any links?
@LawrenceTimme
@LawrenceTimme Жыл бұрын
Why would they advertise expensive electric cars to poor people who can't afford them
@wearetheremnants1615
@wearetheremnants1615 Жыл бұрын
They have been paid considerable money to go along with the scam
@burnzy3210
@burnzy3210 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about others but there's certainly been a lot of very obvious paid reviews from chinese domestic brands on their channel.
@StrawPerson-xq9ko
@StrawPerson-xq9ko Жыл бұрын
Look back at the vax bs they promoted.
@nettynoohawk200
@nettynoohawk200 Жыл бұрын
3 replies shown but only 1 can be seen. They obviously didn’t like the other two replies. 😂
@marinusk67
@marinusk67 Жыл бұрын
In the beginning it was a good show , fun too. Now it is a advertisement channel
@jeremyradford5103
@jeremyradford5103 Жыл бұрын
Prove it!
@spcrowe
@spcrowe Жыл бұрын
Just spent 2 weeks in Norway. People sitting in their EVs in the public carpark at 10pm at night charging them up before they can go home to their families. EVs are just soooo convenient
@andrewprettyquick2070
@andrewprettyquick2070 Жыл бұрын
they turn a lot of them off at midnight.
@bondgabebond4907
@bondgabebond4907 Жыл бұрын
How about giving up the EV for a bicycle????
@Sp_75-76
@Sp_75-76 10 ай бұрын
but they haven’t been forced to buy their EV’s so they are obviously happy with their situation , it is only from your perspective that it is an issue
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 10 ай бұрын
That is an atypical experience. Things are changing for the better all the time. Anyway Norway is leading the world in EV adoption.
@severnsea
@severnsea 9 ай бұрын
@@Sp_75-76 Not exactly. There were massive subsidies and incentives to switch to an EV in Norway, but on top of that they made it a lot more difficult and expensive to own a petrol car, to the point where the UK's ULEZ zones look like Disneyland compared to what they've done in Norway; road tolls, increased parking fees and so on. Pushed is probably a better word than forced, but it's not far off.
@louiscaeiroramos8051
@louiscaeiroramos8051 Жыл бұрын
The only reason EVs are popular in the Netherlands is because they are heavily subsidized and they are almost exclusively company cars.
@Sp_75-76
@Sp_75-76 Жыл бұрын
So what is happening to all the used EV’s when business has finished with them
@sjeeke
@sjeeke 9 ай бұрын
Belgium too. EV sales are up and the media calls that a success. However, about 95% of sales are company cars. After about 3 years or 100.000 km (usually) those cars are dumped on the second hand market and are replaced by new cars. In January 2023 23% of employees in Belgium have a company car, of which 3.2% electric, 9.9% hybrid, 28.6% petrol, 57.8% diesel. Those percentages could change rapidly since ev’s are subsidised for companies, and since COVID their was a very long wait time due to lack of computer chips. (The number of company cars has more than doubled in the last 15 years.)
@charlesholder8009
@charlesholder8009 Жыл бұрын
A question I can't get an answer to is. How does someone living in a ten-story block of flats, charge an EV without having to use a high price charging station miles from home?
@Astrotripper2000
@Astrotripper2000 Жыл бұрын
Probably the way I do. Which is while making groceries. Funnily enough, it costs less per kWh than I pay for the electricity for my apartment. Others would charge at work. Basically, you do not "go charge an EV". You charge it opportunistically. That's how the charging infrastructure needs to be designed and built. Obviously, we're not there yet and it will take years to get there. For now, EVs are mostly for people living in homes, owning a garage or living in a place with convenient charging infrastructure. Which is expected. Rome was not built in a day.
@tonysheerness2427
@tonysheerness2427 Жыл бұрын
@@Astrotripper2000 EV's cheaper to charge than household electricity that is wrong
@chevchelios8582
@chevchelios8582 Жыл бұрын
You don’t. The idea is you don’t have a car.
@esm7708
@esm7708 Жыл бұрын
I actually know the answer to this one. There is government money available for conversion of street lamps to provide power, 3 to 7kw, for on street charging.
@MattyEngland
@MattyEngland Жыл бұрын
​@@Astrotripper2000You obviously have the shopping habits of a bored housewife, I'm in and out of the supermarket in under 10 mins.
@bigbruce1517
@bigbruce1517 Жыл бұрын
Wilson has made a fortune selling warranties for ice cars. Absolute hypocrite.
@madwiganer
@madwiganer Жыл бұрын
Yeah I kinda remember an advert 😮
@jeremyradford5103
@jeremyradford5103 Жыл бұрын
So?
@Stratoszero
@Stratoszero Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyradford5103 he's a commercial prostitute, he'll say anything for the highest bidder.
@gingernutpreacher
@gingernutpreacher Жыл бұрын
​@@jeremyradford5103 agreed. If the warranty did not pay out it would be but just to sell a product is not hypocrisy
@sib923
@sib923 Жыл бұрын
Well said i was about to add that. Thanks ;-)
@xr6lad
@xr6lad Жыл бұрын
I work in the car industry in Australia (as in a regional office of a global European company) that deals with rental cars. The majors take very few EV’s. They say because no one wants to rent them here. No one wants to hire and then on trips deal with the bother with long charge times, downloading apps and registering credit cards or find an available charger and waste their holiday time when they can drive to a petrol station with no hassle and fill up and be off sightseeing.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
Charge times are not long. You have to stop for a pee, crap or bite to eat. You should not need an app. Here in the UK all new chargers must provide contactless payment.
@TachyonDriver
@TachyonDriver Жыл бұрын
... and not many charging points if you want to drive through the outback to gone on holiday either! 😉
@TachyonDriver
@TachyonDriver Жыл бұрын
@@rogerphelps9939 no chargers in the Aussie outback mate!
@xr6lad
@xr6lad Жыл бұрын
@@rogerphelps9939 oh please. ‘Not long’. Again a total gloss over. Guess what: when I refuel I DON’T have to have contrived stops to pee have a break etc. nor do I have to cross fingers theirs an available charger. No one sits at petrol pump for 20 minutes to an hour while they wander off to do other stuff. Oh and if I do need a break I take it where ‘I’ want down the road at a cafe I actually want to go to, or a park I want to sit at. Not in a service area where the charger is.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
@@xr6lad Wrong. My Enyaq has 350 miles range. I can assure you that even after well under half that it is time for a break. You are being criminally irresponsible if you do not take a break. No exceptions.
@jeremywhitehorn1228
@jeremywhitehorn1228 Жыл бұрын
When a former classic ICE afficionado becomes an EV activist you have to wonder about their investment portfolio
@Shadrach666
@Shadrach666 Жыл бұрын
Of course EV sales are up - more are for sale than ever before, and there are more people. However, the percentage of sales per capita is down.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
@@Shadrach666 Sources?
@georginawhitby1320
@georginawhitby1320 Жыл бұрын
Or whether those who own the compromise racket might have something compromising on them!
@newagetemplar6100
@newagetemplar6100 Жыл бұрын
How to destroy the value of a possibly rare classic car in a very expensive manner . How to make a VW beetle even more of a money pit . Just a fad that in the not too distant future will backfire. Especially when their forced into higher electricity charge costs , pay per mile whatever your in fiasco . No doubt special checks for converted vehicles won’t be far off too .
@Sp_75-76
@Sp_75-76 10 ай бұрын
Just perhaps they prefer an EV and find it suits them and can see the benefits of waking up every morning with a full tank of very cheap fuel (I am taking about electricity by the way)
@tonyp741
@tonyp741 Жыл бұрын
As a current EV owner, I had to unsubscribe from Fully Charged due to how self righteous and ranty they have become. Remember, I own an EV, so I should be fully on the cool aid!
@GeoffBuysCars
@GeoffBuysCars Жыл бұрын
And I have EV owners in my comments feed and i'm never rude to them, because they do work for some people, and there's nothing wrong with that... or some company car drivers are given no choice!
@davejohnson3474
@davejohnson3474 Жыл бұрын
Lockdown brought these types of people out of there shells and social media gave them a platform to be pretentious
@markmiller8903
@markmiller8903 Жыл бұрын
EVS ARE DESTROYING THE PLANET.
@davejohnson3474
@davejohnson3474 Жыл бұрын
@absolutemadchad8637 what you got?
@6chhelipilot
@6chhelipilot Жыл бұрын
@@GeoffBuysCars Lots of us on the Motability scheme now have electric cars.
@wanted-33
@wanted-33 Жыл бұрын
Three words, "Follow the money". I would bet the "3 Stooges" are some way invested in the EV market. It's more about control than it is the environment.
@Astrotripper2000
@Astrotripper2000 Жыл бұрын
Same applies to anti-EV media.
@johndoe-qg7jp
@johndoe-qg7jp Жыл бұрын
Their job depends on pushing the EV myth. They get the cars for free but give us the impression that they paid for it with their own money 💰 Only a fraction of people will own an EV. The rest of us will lease or walk.
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 Жыл бұрын
​@@johndoe-qg7jpwhat EV myth. I've seen them on the roads.
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 Жыл бұрын
​@@johndoe-qg7jpshow me where they have been given EVs and not paid for them themselves.
@adrianrandi3738
@adrianrandi3738 Жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@bakeredwards
@bakeredwards Жыл бұрын
I can't help but feel that if a train was delayed 2 hours + on every long journey people would only ever do a couple of journeys before they looked at other options, I guess the same will be true of EVs.
@eddiereed5025
@eddiereed5025 Жыл бұрын
answered your own question there infrastucture if your train never received the backing/government subsidies then they would be in the same shit state as the ev
@HoratioBlogs
@HoratioBlogs Жыл бұрын
@@eddiereed5025 LOL Thank God I no longer have to commute to work by train. Conditions were awful 10 years ago, and today the trains are still shit, unreliable and also cripplingly expensive. If people are still opting for trains over EVs then one has to ask why. The one thing that government is good at is wasting taxpayers' money. Subsidies are only mechanisms to put money in pockets of "the right people." Very little benefit accrues to the general public.
@maxtorque2277
@maxtorque2277 Жыл бұрын
What about you take the train to work every day and it's perfect, it fact, better than perfect. It's quiet, fast, cheap and very reliable. But for say 3 days a year you are delayed by two hours. I bet you'd still keep taking the train. ^^ THIS is really the situation with BEVs (ive owned and driven one for 8 years). For the vast majority of the time given my useage case, they are indeed, quiet, fast, cheap and convient. And yes a few times a year they are not. But because the number of times they are not convient is by far outweighed by the times they are, i'll keep driving a BEV. It's also worth noting that pretty much anyone who buys a new BEV can of course afford a slightly cheaper equivalent NEW ICE. The fact they don't buy that cheaper cars should tell you something!
@samdavidson8918
@samdavidson8918 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think anything Quintin says should be taken too seriously. He has been scratching for a job since his extended warranty adverts 10 years ago
@gordonsimpson3235
@gordonsimpson3235 Жыл бұрын
nothing worse than a poacher turned gamekeeper not to be trusted....vested interests. Pretty oily individual anyway.
@iansimpson8173
@iansimpson8173 Жыл бұрын
On the flip side of that can we ask why the climate crisis lobby have gone into overdrive lately? It’s honestly like they are losing a debate and becoming a screaming child.
@StrawPerson-xq9ko
@StrawPerson-xq9ko Жыл бұрын
Climate is the new covid. Red is the new green.
@Marvin-dg8vj
@Marvin-dg8vj Жыл бұрын
I think the grid problem is sinking in more to people now after the big rises in utility bills in the last 15 months . The gas price has come down but electricity and gas bills are still twice as high as 2019.They will have to go up a lot more
@svenjorgensenn8418
@svenjorgensenn8418 Жыл бұрын
Lockdowns 2.0
@svenjorgensenn8418
@svenjorgensenn8418 Жыл бұрын
​@@Marvin-dg8vjgovernments are closing nuclear plants
@jeremyradford5103
@jeremyradford5103 Жыл бұрын
Duh, because we are running out of time and dumbasses are still challenging climate science.
@jph8291
@jph8291 Жыл бұрын
If EVs are so good, why is it necessary for taxpayers to subsidize the cost? If they are so good, why do they need to be mandated?
@Richard482
@Richard482 Жыл бұрын
What government subsidies does someone buying an EV get?
@jph8291
@jph8291 Жыл бұрын
In Canada and the US, you can get up to (sometimes more) $7,500 off the purchase price for EVs up to $70,000 purchase price. Then, you use the roads that are paid for through gasoline taxes, use of HOV lanes even if you’re alone and on, and on.
@brushlessmotoring
@brushlessmotoring Жыл бұрын
@@jph8291 Gasoline does not pay for roads in Canada, the subsidy for EVs comes from the reduced healthcare cost of not burning gasoline or diesel. Healthcare is paid from taxes, so, not causing or exacerbating respiratory illnesses saves the tax payer money, which can be used to encourage zero tailpipe vehicles. It's a revenue neutral exchange. Gasoline taxes pay for the damage from the CO2 emissions and in cities for subsidizing transit, effectively a personal vehicle congestion charge. In my opinion, transit subsidy should also be levied on EVs, likely via insurance renewals. Roads are paid from property and other taxes, and if you follow the narrative that only rich people can afford EVs, they have already paid more for the roads than gasoline drivers.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
Governments have been subsidising the fossil fuel industry since the year dot and are still at it. EVs have a lot of catching up to do to get anywhere near the handouts that fossil fuels have had.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
@@brushlessmotoring Yes. The idiots on this forum have extremely limited perspectives.
@godtable
@godtable Жыл бұрын
In some sense, I always had EVs in my childhood, EVs are nothing more than scaled up RC car toys 😊
@richardlewis5316
@richardlewis5316 7 ай бұрын
I remember my daughter at 3 years old driving her 'EV' Unfortunately into a neighbours car!!
@nickwebb9290
@nickwebb9290 Жыл бұрын
The knives are out Geoff because they realise their fervent mantra about how EV’s are the panacea of the motoring world are somewhat flawed and can’t accept that fact. Backed into a corner and with credibility and much to lose they’re playing the blame game.
@andrewnevermind4902
@andrewnevermind4902 Жыл бұрын
Fully charged. Ironically named. Paid blokes to push THE MESSAGE. Fully paid would have been a better title.
@StrawPerson-xq9ko
@StrawPerson-xq9ko Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👍
@chevchelios8582
@chevchelios8582 Жыл бұрын
About time these EV shills are called out!
@RedRupert64
@RedRupert64 Жыл бұрын
Well done! I seriously went off Quentin Wilson when I heard him banging on about about how great EVs are on Talk Radio when they're obviously not.
@johnarmstrong5727
@johnarmstrong5727 Жыл бұрын
I had never heard of the Fully Charged Show , it may need renamed as The Full of **** Show , another great video Geoff.
@pauldavies7251
@pauldavies7251 Жыл бұрын
Quentin wilson is a complete mug & hes trying to stay relevant, Nobody has paid him any attention as a motoring journo for years & hes trying his best to jump in with the ev manufacturers
@StrawPerson-xq9ko
@StrawPerson-xq9ko Жыл бұрын
100%
@Karl_Burton
@Karl_Burton Жыл бұрын
Spot on, plus he's irritating as hell
@ruttrally
@ruttrally Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Not been relevant for years.
@Karl_Burton
@Karl_Burton Жыл бұрын
@@ruttrally I think in his early days, he tried to sound like Clarkson, and has carried on from there. He can't talk like that in real life. Complete knob
@hotrodchris805
@hotrodchris805 9 ай бұрын
He spearheaded a fuel price campaign a few years ago, but I doubt that put much bread on the table?
@John-Sacrimoni
@John-Sacrimoni Жыл бұрын
Robert Llewellyn is literally a smeghead now.
@micksroversmg558
@micksroversmg558 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha wondered where quality control went?? Fellow Leyland quality out of control here ha ha
@JamesSmith-qs4hx
@JamesSmith-qs4hx Жыл бұрын
So true 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@paulprescott7913
@paulprescott7913 Жыл бұрын
Robert Llewellyn can only ever be one character and thats it.
@kenhorlor5674
@kenhorlor5674 Жыл бұрын
I know a guy who took his family on holiday using their Nissan Leaf. The whole exercise was a disaster, the driver suffered major range anxiety the whole time. They had to recharge about three times for every one fill you'd have to do with a regular petrol car of the same size.
@brushlessmotoring
@brushlessmotoring Жыл бұрын
I've taken my family (and myself) on 1000 mile per day EV trips in Tesla's. It's not a big deal with the right charging network.
@GeoffBuysCars
@GeoffBuysCars Жыл бұрын
My life is too short for that
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
@@brushlessmotoring The charging situation is improving all the time.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
@@GeoffBuysCars It will be even shorter when global warming kills you.
@cornishhh
@cornishhh Жыл бұрын
@@brushlessmotoring I was speaking to someone who had travelled by Tesla from Sheffield to Cornwall. It took ten hours as opposed to seven in a fossil fuelled car. They arrived with a nearly flat battery too. The UK doesn't have the right charging network so it's pointless to behave as if it does, or will do in the foreseeable future. Last Christmas holidays there were queues of up to eight hours at the chargers near Exeter.
@CoolClearWaterNM
@CoolClearWaterNM Жыл бұрын
As an engineer, I would have to say that it is probably reality that will kill the electric car.
@daleskidmore1685
@daleskidmore1685 Жыл бұрын
And another thing: The fire that engulfed Sebastian Loeb's Rally Cross team's cars at the week end was attended by 9 fire engines. They were still in the transporter truck at the Lydden circuit when the fire started. Fortunately the fire was contained in the tightly packed paddock and the rest of the week end's races were able to continue, but the World Rally Cross round was scratched.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
ICE fires are far more common than EV fires. They are so common that they are not news but the very occasional EV fire is.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 10 ай бұрын
It wasn't caused by an EV. The luddites have gone rather quiet about the Luton Airport fire that was started by a, wait for it - diesel, to their immense disappointment.
@iansinclair7581
@iansinclair7581 Жыл бұрын
I watched that rubbish. I called the three of them fanatics. What a bunch of virtue signalling losers. Geoff you and the McMaster have pointed out the real life depreciation currently on EVs.
@GeoffBuysCars
@GeoffBuysCars Жыл бұрын
It was very culty wasn't it.
@ecoterrorist1402
@ecoterrorist1402 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I didn't
@burnzy3210
@burnzy3210 Жыл бұрын
Them and their fans are completely unreasonable, buy an EV or you're planet destroying scum. They also love to post suspiciously criticism free reviews of domestic Chinese brands.
@blackjockofmangertonpele
@blackjockofmangertonpele Жыл бұрын
​@@GeoffBuysCarsyou misspelled culty
@malph9216
@malph9216 Жыл бұрын
I got about 2 minutes in and could see where it was going, so stopped watching. All a bit preachy for me.
@EliteRock
@EliteRock Жыл бұрын
Once people have "made their minds up" about something - _anything_ - getting them to admit they're wrong is much more difficult than people realise, in fact often close to impossible. Mistaken beliefs often only die with the people holding them.
@xperyskop2475
@xperyskop2475 Жыл бұрын
Yes especially if they have a vested interest in old technology
@brushlessmotoring
@brushlessmotoring Жыл бұрын
How very true. I'm not sure if Geoff is ready to rent a Tesla and do a road trip yet though, his cognitive biases are not open the possibility he may be wrong.
@Sp_75-76
@Sp_75-76 Жыл бұрын
Obstinacy runs both ways
@EliteRock
@EliteRock Жыл бұрын
@@Sp_75-76 Someone gets it.
@anthonyprice5596
@anthonyprice5596 Жыл бұрын
Just A FACT for you, I have had personal experience of a Tesla model S Plaid, it chewed through 3 sets of tyres in 30k, never ever got the promised range and I tried to drive it like a Nun!! But worst of all, after just 42k the battery suddenly lost its performance bringing range down to 40 miles!!
@Engineersoldinterstingstuff
@Engineersoldinterstingstuff Жыл бұрын
Its basically a religion. Impossible to argue with EV folks.
@esm7708
@esm7708 Жыл бұрын
Is it because you lose?
@apir3s595
@apir3s595 Жыл бұрын
@@esm7708 Robert Llewellyn? Is that you?
@See_more....
@See_more.... Жыл бұрын
@@esm7708 With the hundreds of videos debunking the bullshit and others highlighting the current bombing of secondhand EV values we don't really NEED to argue with you. We just sit and giggle at the fact you believe the EV nonsense just as you probably believed Covid came from a wet market.
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 Жыл бұрын
Is it because they counter misinformation with facts?
@Markcain268
@Markcain268 Жыл бұрын
Yep, like arguing with a jehovahs witness, leave 'em to their fate i say lol
@glyngibbs9489
@glyngibbs9489 Жыл бұрын
Here's a thought. Has the govt realised or started listening to the right people and realised their plans are unobtainable? Now they need to sway the people in a different direction so they can listen and react by not banning ice vehicles.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
When temperatures regularly exceed 40 degrees, even in the UK, you will become extremely keen to ditch your ICE. The government must stick to its guns and ignore short termists like you.
@cloudbasenirvana
@cloudbasenirvana Жыл бұрын
Klaus Schwab and his ilk own the worlds Govts - the Govt Puppets read their master Klaus's script for the New World SMART 15 Minute City Agenda
@salibaba
@salibaba Жыл бұрын
Actually Geoff, one of the prevailing thoughts on Fully Charged is Stop Burning Stuff. That encompasses - don’t have a car, cycle, walk. Recycle reuse. Find a way to do what you need by burning less. Nothing in life is perfect, people still need to get to work, kids to school, economies to plod on. But the though is to it by burning less stuff. This comes up in quite a lot of Fully Charged content.
@steven1515
@steven1515 Жыл бұрын
Breaking news ,instead of just stop oil, we have a new organisation called, Just stop ev's 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Love the show mate, Jeoff. Keep up the good work 👍👍
@Sp_75-76
@Sp_75-76 Жыл бұрын
Would make a lot more sense if it was ‘stop us having to buy EV’s’
@timhicks2154
@timhicks2154 Жыл бұрын
I’d rather have terminal boils on my arse than have an EV.
@timhicks2154
@timhicks2154 Жыл бұрын
@Lookup2Wakeup 😂😂😂😂
@grahamf695
@grahamf695 Жыл бұрын
Do you mind if I ask why?
@timhicks2154
@timhicks2154 Жыл бұрын
@@grahamf695 - because EV’s for all will never happen. Just a con.
@grahamf695
@grahamf695 Жыл бұрын
@@timhicks2154 have you ever driven one?
@timhicks2154
@timhicks2154 Жыл бұрын
@@grahamf695 - thankfully I have not. And I never want to. There’s no reason for them to be in use.
@GeoffBuysCars
@GeoffBuysCars Жыл бұрын
This is a good one…
@jacko9720
@jacko9720 Жыл бұрын
Not seen a dud one yet.
@GeoffBuysCars
@GeoffBuysCars Жыл бұрын
@@jacko9720 Ah thanks man!
@R56TurboCharged
@R56TurboCharged Жыл бұрын
I had an electric remote control car, I soon changed it for a glow fuel one as I was sick of running out of battery power and having to wait hours to recharge.....
@grahamf695
@grahamf695 Жыл бұрын
I own an EV and I must say I am delighted with it. I have not had any nightmare experiences. I bought it secondhand, so I avoided some of the depreciation problem. I plan to keep it for 10 years or more. I belong to a couple of social media EV groups and the people on there are mostly very happy with their cars. Some have had bad experiences, but they seem to be in the minority.
@GeoffBuysCars
@GeoffBuysCars Жыл бұрын
WE HAVE FOUND A SENSIBLE EV OWNER! Thank you for being in my comments. What EV did you get?
@brushlessmotoring
@brushlessmotoring Жыл бұрын
@@GeoffBuysCars I think the more interesting question is which EV's have you driven? I see tons of clickbait thumbnails, red meat to the petrol heads - and I get what you are doing - but what I don't see is you renting a Tesla (yeah, has to be a Tesla I'm afraid, for the charging network) and doing a 600 mile day trip in it, using the nav, charge when it needs it, report honestly about your experience, how much time doing 'rest stop business' vs. actually sitting twiddling your thumbs. So much confirmation bias going on the comment section, and so many misunderstood aspects of EVs - you could, if you wanted to, educate both your audience, and yourself, on what the realities are. EVs are not perfect, compromises do need to be made to keep it charged, but the emissions are not worse, keeping an ICE car going is not cleaner than getting an EV, and tailpipe emissions matter too.
@Shadrach666
@Shadrach666 Жыл бұрын
@@brushlessmotoring Fanbois always try to justify their purchase
@grahamf695
@grahamf695 Жыл бұрын
@@GeoffBuysCars 😂. BMW i4 eDrive40.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
@@Shadrach666 In exactly the same way you're justifying your stance......
@DrDandan
@DrDandan Жыл бұрын
I just had to get a "newcar", 2008 fiesta. After my 206 finally gave up the ghost, after 10 years of service. This was the mother in laws car, which she got new. Let's keep old cars alive.
@StrawPerson-xq9ko
@StrawPerson-xq9ko Жыл бұрын
100%
@esm7708
@esm7708 Жыл бұрын
Fully charged quite often point to that model or a model of shared ownership
@jeremyradford5103
@jeremyradford5103 Жыл бұрын
Apparently 1.6 million people lease cars in the UK rather than buy. Not the best model for sustainable motoring and the average age cars are scrapped is just 14 years.
@matinflynn795
@matinflynn795 Жыл бұрын
Yes and I will continue to drive my 1985 toyota celica supra every day until God knows when😅
@jeremyradford5103
@jeremyradford5103 Жыл бұрын
@matinflynn795 Another 2 years, and it will qualify as a classic and be VED free. However, it will still go on pouring out almost 3 tonnes of CO2e every 10k miles. Just sayin'
@neillambton4065
@neillambton4065 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant vid Geoff, and many points very well put. The most environmentally friendly car is an existing vehical in excellent condition being continually serviced and properly maintained. That way, you don`t have the environmental impact of a new car, and just keep driving the thing replacing parts when they wear out. So long as the bodywork stays in good condition, without rusting, it would be far more environmentally friendly to just replace worn parts, and not the whole car. 3 years ago, i bought a Mazda 6 diesel. It does on long motorway journeys 65mpg, and over 45mpg around town. It has considerably less than 30,000 miles on it, It was 9 months old when i bought it, and is now just under 4 years old. I do around 7-8,000 miles per year, so around 10 tankfulls of diesel. With that amount of mileage every year, if the engine does 200,000 miles, it will outlast me. So long as i can keep getting spares for it, i`l keep it for what will likely be the rest of my driving life. I paid just under £20,000 for it, which if i DID do 200,000 miles in it, would equate to 10p per mile in car purchase value, plus running costs, and being diesel, not only can i do theoretically in excess of 700 miles per tankful, at around £70 for a tankful that`s a rough estimate of 10p per mile in fuel costs. I will be keeping my diesel for as long as i can, and at 65 years old, i doubt i will need to buy another car. Now that`s what i call environmentally friendly.
@luviskol
@luviskol Жыл бұрын
Best way - the only people who buy my vehicles when I've finished with them are the breakers, from whom I've usually bought a bunch of spares to keep them going. Not quite bangernomics as I make sure everything is well serviced and reliable
@Jamessansome
@Jamessansome Жыл бұрын
Keeping ICE cars long term and maintaining them well used to be the best way to maximise the life of an ICE vehicle and make the most of the embedded emissions from manufacture. The issue is the emissions of just burning the fuel (excluding ICE manufacture emissions) over an ICE cars lifetime are significantly more than the emissions of making and driving an EV for 200k ICE cars emissions are even worse if you include the emissions of extracting, refining and transporting the fuel from the ground into your tank.
@Stambo59
@Stambo59 Жыл бұрын
@@Jamessansome How does that compare with the environmental impact of making 2 or 3 EVs and their batteries to last the same time as one well maintained ICE car, and the emissions from coal and gas power plants that need to be run to charge said EVs in many countries. Then there is the environmental cost of making more wind and solar charging infrastructure which appears to have a lifespan of around 25 to 30 years so we can support the growing numbers of EVs on the road. I'd like to see a proper study on that.
@brushlessmotoring
@brushlessmotoring Жыл бұрын
@@Stambo59 then google for that study. It's been done, EVs last a lot longer than 200k miles, and the batteries have second life use as stationary storage, or get 99% recycled into new batteries - the info is out there, keeping an ICE car going is not better.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
Wrong. The existing vehicle churns out copious amounts of CO2 and screws the planet. What a present for your grandchildren.
@m.r.e.s.6401
@m.r.e.s.6401 Жыл бұрын
Well said. The EV shills will all be on the payroll.
@Pago77
@Pago77 Жыл бұрын
Charging infrastructure greed is killing the EV. Basically, if you can’t charge at home in a garage or driveway, the cost let alone the inconvenience of charging elsewhere is going to be the blocker to owning an EV. Virtually no “used car” buyer has a garage or driveway where they can charge cost effectively at home. No one wants to spend several hours a week charging at a charge station, and certainly not when it costs more per mile than diesel or petrol.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
I take it you haven't heard of subscribing to charge networks then? Take the Ionity Passport as an example. This gets you around 30p per kwh discount when you use their rapid or ultra rapid chargers....Other charge networks have their own subscription schemes. Of course non-subscribers pay full price.....
@simhedgesrex7097
@simhedgesrex7097 10 ай бұрын
@@Brian-om2hh It's still a lot more expensive than charging at home. And a lot less convenient.
@Sthilboy56
@Sthilboy56 Жыл бұрын
Used to watch fully charged all the time but they now come across as condescending and smug looking down on anyone who doesn’t agree with them
@RealButcher
@RealButcher Жыл бұрын
Exactly the reason I'm not watching them anymore.
@pauljakeman
@pauljakeman Жыл бұрын
Same reason I stopped too.
@system11yt
@system11yt Жыл бұрын
Did they ask why the "anti-EV" content is popular? Clickbait only works on people who want it.
@gtolose
@gtolose Жыл бұрын
Some of this anti EV sentiment will simply be resentment from people who want to own EV's and get that superior feeling deep inside but simply cannot afford it so they are happy to rubbish EV's. Coincidently they are also right ... but for the wrong reasons.
@preonmodel9906
@preonmodel9906 Жыл бұрын
Why the push to electricity everywhere? Meters, heating, cars and banks? Who decided that and why? Who is asking the people for their opinions? Any idea how all of this will work if we have a massive power out or cyber attack ?? 🧐
@simhedgesrex7097
@simhedgesrex7097 10 ай бұрын
Why? The environment (pollution and climate change) Energy independence Saving money (solar and wind are the cheapest forms of energy generation)
@oldgrumpus8523
@oldgrumpus8523 Жыл бұрын
Why not just let the consumer decide EV vs ICE - as we did before the "new normal"?
@malph9216
@malph9216 Жыл бұрын
Something seems to have been missed in the whole EV debacle, the negative effect on jobs and businesses. If the engine or gearbox in your ICE car becomes unusable for one reason or another, you can replace it with either a new, part used from salvage or refurbished item. If your EV battery or drive motors pack up, the cost of replacement will mean it's as cheap to just get another car......another EV that's produced a vast amount of emissions during its production. Then there's the whole aftermarket car modification and tuning industry that supply, fit and maintain the engine, gearbox, suspension mods that are so popular amongst 'petrolheads'. There's also the huge car parts industry that supplies all the parts used by local independent garages and the DIYer who does their servicing at home.
@RalphEllis
@RalphEllis Жыл бұрын
In reality…. US strong tornadoes have been DECREASING for 60 years (see NOAA data). Hurricanes and Typhoons have been STEADY for 45 years (see Dr Ryan Maue data). Heatwaves over 100 f have been DECREASING since the 1930s (see NOAA data). N Hemisphere snow extent has been INCREASING for 50 years. (see Rutgers snow-lab). Polar bear numbers have been increasing for 60 years. (see DR Sue Crockford data:) S Hemisphere sea-ice extent was INCREASING for 40 years, before a storm in 2017. (and extent is climbing back up again) (see NSIDC on climate4you) Ralph.
@stevegarside2471
@stevegarside2471 Жыл бұрын
A very good point well made 👍
@orwellboy1958
@orwellboy1958 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the petrol stations too.
@jeremyradford5103
@jeremyradford5103 Жыл бұрын
A good point to demonstrate the superiority of an electric drive train, illustrating how we accept waste as part of our everyday lives, as if wasting £1 per litre of fuel isn't bad enough. 😊
@DingBatSplat
@DingBatSplat Жыл бұрын
'THEY' don't care. 'THEY' want everyone poor and dependant on the state for everything so that people are totally controllable.
@RichieRouge206
@RichieRouge206 Жыл бұрын
So predictable. I LOVE the way they attack any criticism or negative response and fail spectacularly to acknowledge all the rather large failures of the EV. They will never acknowledge their own faults and it doesn't surprise me that they carry on like they do because they are so bought up by the agenda and those financing it. Great video Geoff
@bondgabebond4907
@bondgabebond4907 Жыл бұрын
It's a cult. Dealing with a member of a cult is like trying to reason with someone who is stupid. Maybe stupid = cult!?!?!
@M3au
@M3au Жыл бұрын
Fully Charged has a fundamental vested interest in casting aspersions on those who question the political push towards EVs. If any KZfaq Channel is to be accused of misinformation on the matter of EVs, Fully Charged should be the first to be questioned.
@simhedgesrex7097
@simhedgesrex7097 10 ай бұрын
Just because they advocate for EVs doesn't mean they are wrong. And sure, question them. So far, most of their arguments hold up.
@peterwoad8087
@peterwoad8087 Жыл бұрын
The 3 of them on the fully charged show are condescending and sanctimonious especially LLewelyn.
@rufusredneck3981
@rufusredneck3981 Жыл бұрын
'But Sirs, they made me do it. I'm programmed to obey the Deep State no matter how insane they are!' Shame on you Kryten, shame on you!
@JamesSmith-qs4hx
@JamesSmith-qs4hx Жыл бұрын
I can't stand that Kryton pr1ck....
@Man_v_Cars
@Man_v_Cars Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. 👍🏻
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
Wrtong. It is the idiot who runs this channel who is a condescending luddite and cannot understand the long term implications of continued use of ICEs.
@richardroberts7633
@richardroberts7633 Жыл бұрын
Could it be their phones have stopped ringing in the last 15-20 years
@neilsmith5762
@neilsmith5762 Жыл бұрын
Had my diesel car for 11 years, 165,000 miles. Still going well. Will not buy a replacement.
@simhedgesrex7097
@simhedgesrex7097 10 ай бұрын
Same here, except that one day it *will* die, and then I will replace it with an electric car.
@Mike-tb5gj
@Mike-tb5gj Жыл бұрын
When Geoff mentioned renting a vehicle, my mind immediately went to the words published by the World Economic Forum: "you will own nothing and be happy". I have already seen an advertising feature for Volvo cars, encouraging people to lease a car from them, rather than buy one. Is this the way we are headed, in order to fulfil Herr Schwab's prediction? This connection jumped into my head when I heard renting cars. We already have that - it's called car hire. One can now see how the dots are beginning to join together in the EV plan!!! Just like climate emergency and all the other nonsense we have endured over the last few decades, it is arrant nonsense and not to be entertained at any cost. All these ideas are massive scams, which if accepted and normalised, will cost humanity their liberty.
@TheBDD1970
@TheBDD1970 Жыл бұрын
The consumer ultimately is the EVs biggest critic. The business model so far is to use bureaucrats and the law to force people to buy an over priced product. I dont care to an extent how "good" or "moral" and EV car is per se, I am not going to make a bad personal decision to have one. It must provide utility at the rate I can and will afford.
@melmorrison1400
@melmorrison1400 Жыл бұрын
They aren’t good and they certainly are not moral. More energy to produce them, horrendous Slav ary to get ‘components‘ for batteries.
@xr6lad
@xr6lad Жыл бұрын
As I’ve said I am 56. I can’t remember any tech that if it was evidently good the public would rush it and what came before simply disappear. Mobile phones, CD’s, colour tv, video recorders etc. and they all did it simpley with consumer demands and no need for government rebates, mandates, taxpayer supported infrastructure upgrades, Punitive taxes on ICEs etc. until we come to EV’s. So much better (supposedly) and the future (supposedly) yet e we need all that.
@rusty911s2
@rusty911s2 Жыл бұрын
Well, EV sales are growing exponentially, much of that via word of mouth and repeat trade. So for a lot of people, they work. Not everybody, but then what car is for everybody? There have always been big posh cars, little cheap cars, sporty cars, sensible cars etc. EV's are just part of the mix, but it's an increasing share. Can you show me a single person that has been forced to buy one? Have you considered that actually, for a lot of people an EV is perfect for them (as mine is for me)?
@Dpo2203
@Dpo2203 Жыл бұрын
There are thousands that can no longer afford to run their little cars or big cars anymore thanks to Ulez charges … or did one forget . As for resale value I’m sure that losing 40% of the cost of a new EV isn’t for everyone . Some of us think about that . Or is it just the sensible ones . “A fool and his money are easily parted “ Go figure .
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 Жыл бұрын
​@@rusty911s2If EVs aren't for everybody, then they're only for somebody. And those somebodies are statistically rich people who are buying EVs as a second or third vehicle, which further compromises the ability to amortize their embodied carbon and save carbon after the initial carbon debt is paid off.
@redjacc7581
@redjacc7581 Жыл бұрын
the EV pushback is because more info from non main stream media has surfaced about EV's not being as green as we have been told.
@entropy5431
@entropy5431 Жыл бұрын
Nobody gives a flying fook about green. EVs are cheap to run when charged at home.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
The non mainstream media that you are on about is just unsubstantiated urban myth stoked up by fossil fuel interests. I suggest you listen to climatologists and they will put you straight.
@Sp_75-76
@Sp_75-76 Жыл бұрын
I have just seen a report on main stream media about a woman who lost 22000 on her new EV because it got flooded. THIS WAS DESPITE THE FACT THAT a. She put in her KZfaq article that it wasn’t an EV b. You can’t buy a new EV for 20000 c. The car in the picture was clearly a NON EV d. The number plate showed it was not a new car Yet this article was picked up by the main media- quite a number, and became another example of the desperate crap being spread about
@kentauree
@kentauree Жыл бұрын
Geoff please visit the plant on Iceland that produce petrol from renewable energy. This is in so much better in so many ways. Cars that run on batteries makes no sense at all.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
So, you'd be ok forking out 6 to 7 times the cost of unleaded for this Holy Grail fuel then? Because that's what it costs....
@aprildangelo7457
@aprildangelo7457 Жыл бұрын
We went to the Morgan factory last year, fantastic tour around the factory, on the tour my husband mentioned if they got a electric model as he noticed a grey car tucked away on the side, to which the tour guide showed him and a few others around the electric vehicle a little bit, looked ok and asked if it will be released in near future, he replied the main problem being the supply of parts the biggest problem, just saying what he said.
@twig3288
@twig3288 Жыл бұрын
Actually EV experts do not recommend Fully Charged 80% charged is the preferred approach for extending battery life. They also recommend not allowing the battery to fall below 20% charge. So there you have it, you should only use 60% of your potential battery capacity (range)
@Richard482
@Richard482 Жыл бұрын
EV batteries can be charged to 100% because there is a buffer on either end that the manufacturers build in which can't be gone into. When it says 100% charged, it isnt. When it says 0%, it isn't.
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 Жыл бұрын
​@@Richard482another EV myth busted. Do any of these luddites actually do any research before posting nonsense?
@Richard482
@Richard482 Жыл бұрын
@@oneeyedgirl617 Of course they don't.
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 Жыл бұрын
@@Richard482 too busy swallowing it hook, line , and sinker....
@AR-dn6kh
@AR-dn6kh Жыл бұрын
Imagine only filling a petrol tank to 3/4s ? What is the point of 3/4 charges to prolong its life? Yet another reason ot to buy an EV😂
@burnzy3210
@burnzy3210 Жыл бұрын
I would expect a very salty response from them, whoever runs their social media has the maturity of grumpy frog.
@GeoffBuysCars
@GeoffBuysCars Жыл бұрын
Ha! i've never looked at their social media. That'll be interesting...
@burnzy3210
@burnzy3210 Жыл бұрын
@@GeoffBuysCars Well in this context I mean their youtube comments.
@lesliecarter4295
@lesliecarter4295 Жыл бұрын
That would be Dan Caesar I suspect. A real Dell boy character but with a deeply unpleasant personality. Robert Llewelyn is just a gormless buffoon who will say anything as long as he is paid for it. Total hypocrite if you add up all of his air miles in the last few years for the Fully charged show !
@bazza224
@bazza224 Жыл бұрын
They encourage you to buy diesel then shaft you. They now encourage you to buy EV odds are very very high they will shaft you again and the odds are more than ten fold this time.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
So I take it you don't in any way feel "shafted" paying one of the highest rates of fuel duty anywhere in the civilised World then?
@kevingreen8581
@kevingreen8581 Жыл бұрын
Excellent summary and you are right to highlight the 'Undeniables' as many people are blindly walking in to buying an EV 'just because it is fashionable to do so.' Thanks for presenting the other side of the EV argument.
@Sp_75-76
@Sp_75-76 Жыл бұрын
Car parks collapsing undeniable?
@DerbJd
@DerbJd Жыл бұрын
The only market for an EV is either for posh and rich enough people to have as 0-60 monsters, or as a second car to a petrol or diesel.
@Marvin-dg8vj
@Marvin-dg8vj Жыл бұрын
Nail .hammer..head
@jeremyradford5103
@jeremyradford5103 Жыл бұрын
I've driven 38k miles in under 3 years in an EV. Why would I lower my standards and use an ICE as a 'first' car? Apart from the electricity, which is 7.5p per kWh and takes me 4 miles, the only other expense has been screenwash fluid.
@MattyEngland
@MattyEngland Жыл бұрын
0-60 very quickly about 10 times, then 3 hours to recharge
@salibaba
@salibaba Жыл бұрын
So all I needed to do to climb the social ladder from working class was get an EV. Whoa! I’ll also need to let the bank know. I drive EV mate, my credit is good.
@44RobC
@44RobC Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyradford5103 It may only cost you 7.5p/kWh to charge your car at home but the rest of your household electricity will be costing you almost double.
@robertbox5399
@robertbox5399 Жыл бұрын
Ev's are the new mobile phones. You rent it and then throw it in landfill as they're basically disposable.
@jeremyradford5103
@jeremyradford5103 Жыл бұрын
You may do that with your mobile phone but many people send them to br recycled.
@Acemeistre
@Acemeistre Жыл бұрын
Redwood industries bruv
@jeremyradford5103
@jeremyradford5103 Жыл бұрын
@Acemeistre Apple has plans to recycle 2.4 billion of their old phones 😊
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 Жыл бұрын
6 years and counting and nowhere near having to worry about the battery. Next BS please.
@eddiereed5025
@eddiereed5025 Жыл бұрын
send as many of them my way i am desperate to make a fortune recycling old ev batteries so far not many ev batteries for sale from non written of cars
@sladehelicoptersgaming3148
@sladehelicoptersgaming3148 Жыл бұрын
My car is 23 years old and has 215k miles on it , need a new one soon but it will be petrol ! And I am planning on it lasting at least 15 years
@ivorvickerman8061
@ivorvickerman8061 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Mr Wilson & pals should ask themselves why I should buy an EV based on an advert showing a model rollerskating down a road?
@redjacc7581
@redjacc7581 Жыл бұрын
i guess "fully charged" have been bought & paid for.
@simhedgesrex7097
@simhedgesrex7097 10 ай бұрын
Yes. By its youtube viewers. The same way that this youtube channel is bought & paid for.
@askmaxim
@askmaxim Жыл бұрын
PLeASE add 1 more argument: As EVs are (much) heavier, they objectively consume MORE energy to move.
@XenonJohnD
@XenonJohnD Жыл бұрын
Petrol engines are at best 30% efficient. They mainly produce heat.
@st200ol
@st200ol Жыл бұрын
My EV weighs nearly 2 tonnes, it’s ridiculously heavy yet I still get 4miles per kWh, around 1.7p per mile. Once it’s moving it wants to stay moving, Newton’s 1st law of motion.
@esm7708
@esm7708 Жыл бұрын
Presumably you feel the same way about SUVs?
@Astrotripper2000
@Astrotripper2000 Жыл бұрын
No, because they are about three times as efficient. And they are not even that much heavier. For example, electric BMW 4 is 2065 to 2290 kg. Petrol version is 1695 to 1900 kg. Diesel version is 1780 to 1920 kg. That's the difference when the EV is not a bespoke electric car. A BMW SUV designed from the ground up to be an EV (the iX) weighs 0-10% more than a petrol/diesel SUV of the same class (the X5). I think people do not really realize how heavy the ICE cars have gotten in the last decade or two.
@johnmcconville6055
@johnmcconville6055 Жыл бұрын
My MG5 is 1000kg lighter than a Range Rover Sport.
@ianm42yt
@ianm42yt Жыл бұрын
Car parks and bridges under threat from heavy EVs? Range Rover 2300kg, BMW X5 2300kg, Volvo XC90 2100kg, Tesla Model Y 1900kg. Which ones should we ban from car parks?
@waldnew
@waldnew Ай бұрын
All of them
@jontheodore8450
@jontheodore8450 Жыл бұрын
Anyone would think Quinton Wilson was sponsored by the EV market...🤫
@paulie-Gualtieri.
@paulie-Gualtieri. Жыл бұрын
Never knew Quentin Willson was an electric car shill, really surprised by that.
@jeremyradford5103
@jeremyradford5103 Жыл бұрын
He drives a Tesla Model 3.
@sullivanrachael
@sullivanrachael Жыл бұрын
He is a smarmy know-it-all that has jumped on EVs as the next thing.
@angryofmayfair7091
@angryofmayfair7091 Жыл бұрын
He'll become a fan of anything that he can make a living from.
@cornishhh
@cornishhh Жыл бұрын
@@angryofmayfair7091 He should go into politics!
@jeremyradford5103
@jeremyradford5103 Жыл бұрын
@sullivanrachael He's a motoring journalist, not the ffing messiah. Get a grip, will you.
@pks15032
@pks15032 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know if crash tests have been done on these heavy EVs v ICE equivalents?
@XenonJohnD
@XenonJohnD Жыл бұрын
Tesla's score so highly in crash tests it is an embarrassment to every other car manufacturer actually. You could have checked that easily yourself.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
Email Thatcham. They do all the crash testing in the UK, and issue the appropriate Euro NCAP safety rating.
@adrianlloyd6403
@adrianlloyd6403 Жыл бұрын
I was a milkman for a number of years and the only time I've ever experienced a vehicle fire was on my electric milk float.I've witnessed at first hand an electric vehicle fire and i would NEVER personally buy an electric vehicle.Anecdotal,personal story,but no one pushing EVs would ever convince me of the merits of an EV.
@marshgatelaneposse
@marshgatelaneposse Жыл бұрын
I unsubscribed from fully changed due to fact that every car that had a battery was incredible far superior to anything the extra 1 tonne was great because it was mounted low down
@orange-bx1cy
@orange-bx1cy Жыл бұрын
great stuff keep exposing the utter rubbish these idiots spout Geoff - the questions you put forwrad that they need to answer are just briiiant and I’d like to see them do it - dont think that’s going to happen!
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 Жыл бұрын
So would I. Armchair experts who have never owned an EV having to provide a source for all the misinformation they spout up against those with facts. I'll get the popcorn.
@Jamessansome
@Jamessansome Жыл бұрын
Most of Geoff's questions have already been answered. It would be interesting to hear responses from Fully Charged. The idea behind the Fact - Check Pushback video is to do just that. Check what the real stats and what is untrue. E.G. the break even emissions mileage for an EV is now 12k but some still think it's 50/60/70k.
@gibroon4418
@gibroon4418 Жыл бұрын
The questions raised are fair enough but you also need to do the same for ICE cars. That's the issue with both sides of the debate. This information is already out there but ICE owners only want to look at the negatives of EVs and don't look at the negatives of the old ICE cars. There's ignorance on both sides of the story.
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 Жыл бұрын
@gibroon4418 I would have to disagree. EV owners on here either have, or have had an ICE car. The ignorance is mostly with ICE owners who have never owned an EV.
@RandomNoob
@RandomNoob Жыл бұрын
@@oneeyedgirl617 Yep, everyone that drives electric have generally also driven a petrol or diesel for most of their life, they have the experience of both, the papers like to publish articles from 1 or 2 people that tried electric but didn't like it but many go electric and swear to never to back, why don't they ever ask them why they will never go back? The answer is they don't care what they have to say because it doesn't align with what they are trying to push. Its all the same rags though like The Mail, The SUN, The Telegraph etc. There was a proposal a while back about setting guidelines and increasing reliability of charging operator etc, why didn't any of these outlets report on that, simple it wasn't negative.
@TheWizardOfTheFens
@TheWizardOfTheFens Жыл бұрын
Good report Mr Buys-Cars! Everything these days goes hand in glove with an agenda - usually a heavily incentivised one at that!
@leonmadden2449
@leonmadden2449 Жыл бұрын
Insurance companies are saying they can't repair evs even if just slight damage because no one is trained to repair batteries and they stand for weeks taking up parking spaces at garages because they have to be kept wide apart. So Insurance companies write them off so they don't even get to even out with carbon at build
@Sp_75-76
@Sp_75-76 Жыл бұрын
The source for your statement? 12:00 still waiting
@bigmull
@bigmull Жыл бұрын
EV sales are only going up because Company Car fleets are now Electric based as they get huge tax breaks for doing so.I wonder how much my 1973 Austin 1100 will be worth come 2030?Add to that it will run on synthetic fuel its got to be a shit load more green than an EV.One question how clean are LPG fuelled cars?
@Festoolification
@Festoolification Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, plus other schemes to make them more attrractive, including motability, which is ine of the main reasons there is an increasing issue with residual values / depreciation - second hand demand is much lower as the tax perks do not apply and the cars have to stand alone on their merits / costs.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
Wrong. ICEs are only 25% efficient so every mile that you drive will use around 4 times the primary energy used by an EV. Furthermore synthetic fuels are going to be extremely expensive. LPG is a bit better than petrol but still emits a lot of CO2. If the LPG were used in a power station the electricity would take an EV about 4 times further than an ICE.
@simonbroddle754
@simonbroddle754 Жыл бұрын
There are vintage electrics you're not taking into account. Nice driving position, easy access, single passenger seat but the mother of all boot space and all measured in milk bottles!
@micksroversmg558
@micksroversmg558 Жыл бұрын
Only electric vehicle that I would ever consider at all! Fully recyclable batteries smiths or a Leyland Compton tho??
@henrybn14ar
@henrybn14ar Жыл бұрын
Milan trams - 95 years in service.
@briancrook7941
@briancrook7941 Жыл бұрын
Hi Geoff, forget all the technical details. The government say the country is in financial crisis because we have too much credit, they want us all to go and buy new cars at 3x the price. Lack of join up thought thinking.
@Gizepi
@Gizepi Жыл бұрын
"Fact Check" from a channel specifically set-up to promote the use of EV's is code for "let me tell you some of our lies". QW also has a collection of classics and knows his classics are safe and will potentially climb in value. Who benefits?= He does. My question would be " who funds the fully charged show"?
@simhedgesrex7097
@simhedgesrex7097 10 ай бұрын
People who watch it, and Patreons. Plus income from their events.
@hilary2668
@hilary2668 Жыл бұрын
Hi Geoff, this is absolutely true, not made up, my next door neighbour bought an EV, he ran it for a few months, and then realised it was costing as much as a petrol, but with all the inconvenience of having to stop and charge the damed thing on long journeys. So he's bought a petrol car now. and the EV, sits on his drive unable to sell it. The Morrell of this story is, don't buy an EV 😂😂
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
EVs are far cheaper to run than ICEs. Current EV ranges are plenty good enough. You are spouting nonsense.
@severnsea
@severnsea Жыл бұрын
@@rogerphelps9939 Um....no they're not unless you have home charging, but the purchase/lease price cancels that out anyway. As for range, I get up to 450 miles from my diesel car and it takes me 5 minutes to fill up. I don't have to worry about setting off with a full tank and I don't have to plan my journey for refilling purposes regardless of where I go in the UK. No EV can do that.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
EVs are rapidly reaching price parity with comparavle ICE cars. You do not drive for 450 miles or whatever non stop. You charge an EV when you are taking a break.
@rogerphelps9939
@rogerphelps9939 Жыл бұрын
@@severnsea I see you are happy to screw up the climate so that your grandchildren will curse you for your selfishness.
@severnsea
@severnsea Жыл бұрын
@@rogerphelps9939 Yes, EV prices are falling because people don't want them. It doesn't work, mate. You people don't get it. I typically wouldn't be driving at speeds that would give me 450 miles from a tank anyway, so I could easily do a single trip on a full tank if I wanted to in many cases. But I don't want to stop at grotty, expensive service stations to potentially have to wait for a free charger that's working, not being able to leave my car so I don't miss my slot, spend up to an hour charging my car at inflated prices, buying their crap food and drink at inflated prices, or have to be there when it's finished charging because there is likely to be somebody else waiting to charge their car. I don't want to have to work out if I have enough power to get there. I want to drive in, fill up and go. It's that simple.
@FlyFree2023
@FlyFree2023 Жыл бұрын
A well thought out breakdown of the current argument for EV's. The only logical outcome from which is the "Fully Charged Show" invite you to debate the questions you raise in a future episode. Now that would be groundbreaking coverage!
@jeremyradford5103
@jeremyradford5103 Жыл бұрын
Why would any KZfaq channel with 1 million subscribers and over 168 million views invite GBC for a discussion. What would they benefit from doing that?
@FlyFree2023
@FlyFree2023 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremyradford5103 Just a challenge to them if they want. Otherwise, they are free to express their views. As is GBC. End of debate.
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 Жыл бұрын
Please make that happen. The thought of non EV armchair experts having to come up with sources and facts instead of Talk TV BS would be too good to miss.
@Sp_75-76
@Sp_75-76 Жыл бұрын
But according What Car figures for JUNE 2023 the premise that no one wants an EV is wrong UK new car sales grew by 25.8% last month compared with the same period in 2022, official figures have revealed. In total, 177,266 new cars left showrooms during June. This marks an 11th consecutive month of growth following the semiconductor chip shortage, which had limited vehicle production since 2020. Plug-in hybrid sales grew by the biggest margin, with 12,770 joining the roads over the course of the month - 65.5% more than the year before. Sales of regular hybrids also increased significantly, from 14,978 last June to 20,991 in June 2023. Likewise, electric car sales increased by nearly two fifths(40%), to 31,700, but petrol models remain most popular with UK buyers: 98,894 (including mild hybrids) were sold in June, accounting for 55.8% of total new car sales. Only diesel-powered models were less popular this June than last; 12,911 diesel (and mild hybrid diesel) cars were sold, a 13.5% reduction on June 2022.
@oneeyedgirl617
@oneeyedgirl617 Жыл бұрын
@steam51j GBC has "views." FC has knowledge...
@OnceDrivenForeverSmitten
@OnceDrivenForeverSmitten Жыл бұрын
Nobody wants to kill the electric car they just don't want to be forced into having one when the environmental benefits are dubious, drawbacks plentiful and future unclear
@chasleask8533
@chasleask8533 Жыл бұрын
.I think you may find that the 'Fully Charged ' lads don't want a debate . They want to influence .
@johnmcconville6055
@johnmcconville6055 Жыл бұрын
How do you know? I think they will easily take on the petrol heads.
@chasleask8533
@chasleask8533 Жыл бұрын
@@johnmcconville6055 You have instantly forgotten the whole point of debating , which is a peculiar phenomenon .
@richtee9888
@richtee9888 Жыл бұрын
These people can’t debate Geoff , they just scream ,shout and cancel others who have a different opinion than their own. Great point about classic cars .
@philipmicans6123
@philipmicans6123 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you have some of the ‘greenist’ cars behind you- Morgan’s. Green because the average owner keeps them for 10-years.
@AdamGoodman4U
@AdamGoodman4U Жыл бұрын
IF you get 50 mpg, out of a car, and drive it, the average miles in one year, 7,500 over 10 years, 75,000 it will create about 16 tons of CO2, an average EV charged from renewables doing 75,000 miles would struggle to create 1 ton of CO2, to make an average ICE creates about 5 tons of CO2 and for an EV its about 9 tons.
@Bobo-ox7fj
@Bobo-ox7fj Жыл бұрын
@@AdamGoodman4U So you're saying real cars are better for the biosphere? I'm on board with that - maybe I'll tweak my oxygen sensors to run the thing a little rich and crank out more CO2.
@stevefairbanks835
@stevefairbanks835 Жыл бұрын
My experience with an electric car was horrific, no way will I buy another one, give me synthetic fuel any day.
@markrichardson8299
@markrichardson8299 Жыл бұрын
What happened?
@simonfarmer3056
@simonfarmer3056 Жыл бұрын
Should EVs be allowed on cross channel ferries or the tunnel ?
@esm7708
@esm7708 Жыл бұрын
Yes. I have a number of times and not died.
@Sp_75-76
@Sp_75-76 Жыл бұрын
Instead of asking such questions simply google ‘channel tunnel fires’ and you will quickly see it is ICE vehicles that need to be banned
@simonfarmer3056
@simonfarmer3056 Жыл бұрын
@@Sp_75-76 I take it that you wont be watching Jeffs vid @ 5pm weds about cargo ships & ev fires ......
@stevegarside2471
@stevegarside2471 Жыл бұрын
Ouch! I couldn't watch anymore of that charged show video than i had to. The guy on the left spoke more turd than the total thats ever been excreted from out my backside. An absolute clearly funded video from the pro EV camp. Great work as usual geoff. 👌
@that_kouki_26
@that_kouki_26 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't a fan of electric cars anyway, but the push from the Government to get people in them is enough for me to absolutely detest them. Plus I couldn't drive a car that has no engine sound. HA Gayyyyyeeeee
@stephenholmes1036
@stephenholmes1036 4 ай бұрын
Well said. 1, cobalt is mainly mined in DRC. 2, It is mined by children as young as 7 and the death rate is unacceptable. 3, Areas of the DRC and being devastated by mining. 4, The miners are paid dreadful wages and awful conditions 5, Cobalt is unrecyclable 6, If 35% of cars become battery powered , Every electricity substation in Britain MUST be upgraded. 7, Where are all the people who live in hi rise, terraced and houses without parking supposed to charge their vehicles? 8, Where are people without mains supposed to charge? 9, Farm vehicles that tow livestock trailers? 10, Affordable spare parts and maintenance? 11, vehicles Affordable to the less well off, Something nobody will discuss. Ask thosev3 that question 12, range and heater use in winter? Thats just a few
@Alex-ni2ir
@Alex-ni2ir 3 ай бұрын
Cobalt mines dont exist. these are exiting copper mines and cobalt is a byproduct of existing mining. Luckily most EVs today are not built with cobalt, though your phone and other gadgets probably were. I trust you will throw these away in protest? Why is child labour an exclusively ev problem in this case anyway? There are many supply chains with abuses, this is globalisation at its best. Dont ask where 99% of your other comsumer goods come from. Imfastructure problems get better with time. Just because the grid is not capable now doesnt mean it will not adapt and grow with EV adoption. People that park in the street, will require an on street solution. That doesnt exist yet, but its still early days.
@Alex-ni2ir
@Alex-ni2ir 3 ай бұрын
Maintenance is less than ICE. EV prices have plumetted and is much more affordable now. Winter? Batteries are warmed before use nowadays, pimiting the effects on the range. Modern evs also have heat pumps allowing heating very efficiently.
@christownsend7602
@christownsend7602 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait until the valve of E-types to go down. Been waiting all my life for that.
@zog97xy
@zog97xy Жыл бұрын
VALUE
@theadventuresofred19
@theadventuresofred19 Жыл бұрын
It's about virtue signalling. I have a PCH deal on my existing car but I don't want my next car! How does that sound?
@bobriemersma
@bobriemersma Жыл бұрын
The EV-angelists get their backs up when anybody interferes with the buttering of their bread at your expense. These are the sort who ran ahead telling everyone how great the invading Vikings were.
@andrewhotston983
@andrewhotston983 Жыл бұрын
My concern is what will happen to our network of petrol stations if IC cars become a minority? Range anxiety will then be for all motorists, not just EV owners. I suspect that would suit the powers that be just fine - they hate people being free to travel.
@philthorkildsen6714
@philthorkildsen6714 Жыл бұрын
I imagine petrol and diesel will be around for years and its REALLY EASY to carry home a months worth in Jerry cans...
@andrewhotston983
@andrewhotston983 Жыл бұрын
I imagined that I would be able to replace my LPG boiler like for like, but that's looking increasingly unlikely. Do not underestimate the lengths that the eco-fascists will go to in order to achieve their objectives.
@Brian-om2hh
@Brian-om2hh Жыл бұрын
This may well begin sooner than you anticipated. Shell plan to cut petrol and diesel production by 40% on the lead up to 2030. Details are in Shell's last business report..... What advantages or benefits would curtailing people's ability to travel, offer the Government?
@andrewhotston983
@andrewhotston983 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea. Ask Sadiq Khan.
@ianewart1450
@ianewart1450 Жыл бұрын
Dear Geoff I looked in to Buying a EV. and did my homework before I even starting to Watch your channel and I Yeah, came to the same conclusion as you did and still do . and yes I will admit I am a petrol head by could not work out how come a new car of any description was good for the environment please keep doing what you are doing kind regards
@danmcadie2515
@danmcadie2515 Жыл бұрын
Why are petrol heads suddenly caring about the environment?
@ianewart1450
@ianewart1450 Жыл бұрын
@danmcadie2515 because I personally feel that something has to be done if not in my life time then at some time but not to feed the pockets of the people that have a Short term financial gain
@maxtorque2277
@maxtorque2277 Жыл бұрын
"could not work out how come a new car of any description was good for the environment " Have a read of this: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1062603/lifecycle-analysis-of-UK-road-vehicles.pdf The conclusions are pretty clear cut. If you don't agree with anything, let me know and i will try to explain further
@kruger-3522
@kruger-3522 Жыл бұрын
Quentin Wilson WAS a massive petrol head. The only reason I can see him NOW promoting EV's is because he is the CEO of an EV company, or he has shares in an EV company or he is getting paid lots of money by EV companies to say they are good. That is the only reason it can be, MONEY and money talks, because MAN is greedy
@sbanetaylor5323
@sbanetaylor5323 Жыл бұрын
EV's are killing themselves by bursting into flames on ships bringing them to our shores
@alrhodes5011
@alrhodes5011 Жыл бұрын
Not all EVs are equal. I have a Tesla long range and it's probably the best car I've ever owned (I've owned at least 70 cars during my lifetime).
@davidryan4454
@davidryan4454 Жыл бұрын
What about the environmental cost when the EV is done ?
@simhedgesrex7097
@simhedgesrex7097 10 ай бұрын
Same as an ICE except that the battery gets re-used for home/grid storage, and there are fewer parts that need recycling otherwise (because EVs are not as complex as ICEs).
@davidryan4454
@davidryan4454 10 ай бұрын
@@simhedgesrex7097 thanks. Good to read although it flies in the face of many photos of EVs sitting in fields, neglected & what folk get charged to replace their car batteries because "they are good for nothing" so no residual value yet
@Batlampjim
@Batlampjim Жыл бұрын
And what is the Environmental exposure of disposing of Dead batteries ??
@noelward8047
@noelward8047 Жыл бұрын
A new market is emerging ... new carpets to hide them under Haha
@RobA500
@RobA500 Жыл бұрын
They are all 100% recycled, no waste no damage to the environment. At least that’s what the fully charged show would have you believe, the truth they are probably packed up and shipped to another country to fester in large piles like most of other so say recycled stuff at great cost and emissions.
@nicolagianaroli2024
@nicolagianaroli2024 Жыл бұрын
@Lookup2Wakeup out of sight out of mind
@Sp_75-76
@Sp_75-76 Жыл бұрын
@@RobA500this is the problem, you seem to accept that batteries can be recycled - which they can be by the way- but then add a comment about them having to be transported to a recycling location!!
@simhedgesrex7097
@simhedgesrex7097 10 ай бұрын
"And what is the Environmental exposure of disposing of Dead batteries" - very positive. First they are re-used for grid storage, helping use renewable energy when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow. And after they are no use for say (e.g. after they are about 20+ years old), they can be fully recycled.
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