Who's Buying These? - MinisForum Elitemini B550

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ATX? That's too big. Mini ITX? Nah, still too big. How about an upgradable NUC-alike where you can install your own AM4 CPU and slot the whole system into a bracket that holds a super powerful desktop GPU? Big when you need big, small when you need small. It's the perfect package. Or is it?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:53 EliteMini B550
2:11 What makes it weird.
4:41 The Bracket
5:35 The Cables
7:14 The Big Moment
8:37 Testing and Thoughts
11:16 Outro

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@der8auer Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feature :) Good to see that they definitely improved.

@Theworldoftimo Жыл бұрын

Agree but still needs work I wouldn’t buy it just yet

@lordofstrandhill Жыл бұрын

Aaaaah nice to see ya here 🤪👌🏻

@trexitooo Жыл бұрын

Alles gut 8auer

@Dumify Жыл бұрын

linus says your name and it sounds like devour XD

@mycosys Жыл бұрын

Its kind of embarrassing you didnt know what CFRP is and blasted a tiny company for the exact same marketing and materials used by the biggest companies in the industry like Dell. I guess easier target.

@Alias_Anybody Жыл бұрын

I was really impressed until he added the external GPU and power supply. So 3 small-ish bricks connected with cables instead of one solid medium sized one?

@firesurfer Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Right at the end, he basically said that.

@RandomMan1 Жыл бұрын

@@firesurfer if the PSU was Integrated better I could almost see it. People like showing off their GPUs, this is basically the ultimate in transparent cases

@firesurfer Жыл бұрын

@@RandomMan1 That's been done... a long time ago. It's called a test bed frame.

@SyRose901 Жыл бұрын

@@firesurfer There are also some quite elegant open cases. I don't know if they are even smaller than this mini PC, but hey. This mini PC by itself is extremely good as a retro gaming console up to the PS3.

@FastSloth87 Жыл бұрын

@@SyRose901 the XPROTO immediately comes to mind.

@botlige27 Жыл бұрын

Love how it is not only shaped and sized like a gamecube, it also has mysterious connections on it's underside that no one will ever use

@justinvanhorne9958 Жыл бұрын

also being embarrassingly messy, clunky and overpriced. what a great use of everyone's time. why cant people just build computers and put them in cases, this is asking for trouble.

@andepen6820 Жыл бұрын

The Gameboy adapter för Gamecube tho 👀👀👏👏

@VanSanProductions Жыл бұрын

@@justinvanhorne9958 ITX builds are kinda difficuit. This isn't a great solution though. I think if they designed it so a sfx power supply was included and all you need to do is plug in a graphics card/storage in a tiny enclosed case. I think custom non-ITX could be good because ITX boards have natural limitations of being ITX as well so they could make a system that has 3+ NVME slots on a custom board.

@s.i.m.c.a Жыл бұрын

@@VanSanProductions the heck, my Asus rog miniITX board have 2 M.2 slots and couple of sata 3 ports. How much more you could even need?

@1steelcobra Жыл бұрын

@@andepen6820 Cue Korone streaming playing Warioware Twisted with the Gamecube adapter and playing by holding the entire system up and tilting it.

@epirreman Жыл бұрын

So, as a civil engineer I could see this working really well with some blueprint softwares, plus it could be useful being small form factor and disconnect-able since you have to travel a lot sometimes if you’re a contracting engineer and the mobility of it can make it useful away from home

@anxiousearth680 Жыл бұрын

So the power and thermals of a desktop with the sorta portability of a laptop?

@tincho11dp Жыл бұрын

Get a laptop

@diazzsama Жыл бұрын

yeah no, nobody in the site project uses pc.

@88porpoise Жыл бұрын

If you are travelling a lot, wouldn't you rather have a laptop? This seems most suited to moving between a few specific locations that you have set ups. You have your monitors, peripherals etc set up at the office and at home but only need the GPU power at home. So you take this to the office and plug in your dock and power brick and then take it home and slot it in with you GPU. Of course I am still not seeing a significant benefit over a laptop which also has the added flexibility of laptops.

@capsulate8642 Жыл бұрын

@@88porpoise Dunno why Linus was so hard on this. Tons of people (and businesses) use laptop docking stations which this could completely replace. Peripherals and a GPU at home, basic peripherals at the office, and the PC costs $700 instead of a $2000 business laptop that supports docking. Hopefully it gets a 2nd gen version down the line where docking is even quicker.

@mikechu01 Жыл бұрын

i could see it as a engineering machine, since things like solidworks and inventor are basically cpu only, you can bring it to work/shared working space, do what you need to do with coworkers and everything and then you can bring it home and render some pretty images for the boss using a gpu overnight at home... idk

@CuppaLLX Жыл бұрын

i mean there are usb minitors i coudleasly see this thing and a minitor or 2 packed in a bag, then dockit at home for gaming, cause producivity you want multiple munitors but for gamining really just 1 so the dock at home has a nice big minitor the mobvle two small usb monitors, that will cost you a hell of a lot less then any duel side by side laptop on the market ATM. Consider these a usb c monitor designed to expand a laopto are aboutr 250-400 while a gaming laptop (that cant be upgraded) is 4k. This is 1k fully loaded, ad anothe 1k for a top gpu and 400 for a usbc monitor your still under half what a non upgradianble gaming latop costs and you CAN upgrade this

@wiedapp Жыл бұрын

Why would I give my employer MY electricity for free? If the boss wants something rendered for him, it has to happen within the workspace on company cost. And if that takes longer, then it is this way, period.

@Gabu_ Жыл бұрын

@@wiedapp Try living somewhere that's not Europe/the good bits of Canada for a while.

@metacerberusVT Жыл бұрын

Yeah but again.... Laptop...

@Kevin-fj5oe Жыл бұрын

Makes me remember an engineering staff bringing his tower for work.

@GregOughton Жыл бұрын

This seems like something that started as a really cool idea and then it progressively became less cool as they made comprises along the design process.

@shanematthews1985 Жыл бұрын

Yeah seems like it suffered from feature creep lol

@chessprince1164 Жыл бұрын

The Idea of Barebones it's not new

@Sup_D Жыл бұрын

I think the idea for this is related to how many KZfaqrs were connecting M.2 based PCIe slots extension to run an External GPU with Mini PC's (even JayzTwoCents did it once before).

@BikingWIthPanda Жыл бұрын

I live in an RV and I would love this thing. My 3700x system took up a lot of space. might've used one of these if I'd seen it before I got my laptop. it's far cheaper than a laptop, too.

@leewinfield632 Жыл бұрын

It seems more like an early iteration on a good idea to me

@wormspeaker Жыл бұрын

I feel like this was a "GPU winter" idea that just took too long to bring to market. Back when you couldn't get a GPU the idea of buying an honestly very powerful Mini computer that you could later add a GPU to seems like a good idea for someone who didn't want to pay scalper prices for a GPU during that time. I bought the previous version of this computer myself actually. I figured I would go with a mini computer to tide me over until GPU prices came back to earth. Most of the games I like to play aren't that GPU intensive and the massive 16 thread capacity of the CPU did a really good job of running my favorite strategy games. Unfortunately in attempting to install Linux on it I apparently killed the BIOS on the mother board and had now way to recover it, but I was able to just take the CPU out and use it in a larger self build. (Unfortunately I wasn't also able to reuse the RAM as it's SODIMM and I couldn't find a motherboard that could slot an AM4 and SODIMM.)

@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын

No way to flash CoreBoot on it?

@liev535 Жыл бұрын

well you can add a GPU later to basically any system that is running a CPU with integrated graphics, so I dont see how this would be any better than literally any other build, unless you really wanted something unusual. It takes almost the same area from your table as a full sized ATX case...

@davidhudson3001 Жыл бұрын

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@dr.ervingalen1777 Жыл бұрын

@@davidhudson3001Thank you, Going through her profile in her webpage, she smashed all her state certificate and accreditation🙏

@jewellwalker9808 Жыл бұрын

Investment now will be wise but the truth is investing on your own will be a high risk. I think it will be best to get a professional

@conceptt Жыл бұрын

I've been using a minisforum mini pc for a couple months now and its been pretty awesome to use as a daily linux box. It was reasonably priced, small and powerful. It is perfect for a desk that can't hold dual 27 inch monitors and a full desktop pc at the same time. In addition it had all the ports I needed, but still powerful and not limited by throttled by power limits or thermals. I think this is perfect for someone that needs a little more power from a gpu like some said engineering or machine learning. It's definitely easier to put together then building an SFF ITX rig and the possibly cheaper because ITX parts are not cheap.

@PantheraTK Жыл бұрын

Still going ok? Just trying to learn about Minisforum build quality

@sladewilson9741 Жыл бұрын

"You you you're still connected by cable" This man knows Linus.

@JonMaier Жыл бұрын

Also the "It's a real delicate cable" said with stress in his voice

@unsuckified3192 Жыл бұрын

You could realistically figure out how many times Linus has dropped things, thrown things, and pulled out wires if you knew his total number of projects he has been involved in and then multiply that by about 1.5x.

@matasa7463 Жыл бұрын

@@JonMaier because he knows if the boss man breaks the cable, the boss man ain’t fixing it himself.

@rossharper1983 Жыл бұрын

Quite a clever design idea. I like it. Having to use an extra PSU kills it

@krecikowi Жыл бұрын

Exactly, I was like this is how it always should be. Wait EXTRA psu? No, thank you.

@HarithBK Жыл бұрын

i would say it is both to early and an inch away from genius. having a barrel plug for power means they must supply the PSU for mobile option once USB-C 240w becomes standard for gaming laptops (EU has already demanded it happen with universal charger it just doesn't need to happen in 2024) that won't be an issue so they can drop it and drop the price if you don't want it mobile. then there is the PSU and the cable mess is ruins the simple and easy design base unit you slot the "CPU" block and GPU into need to contain the PSU. add in some standardization to slot config and you are cooking with fire.

@giancarloraphaeldeguzman8613 Жыл бұрын

It'd be cool if they built a tray with their own PSU underneath

@nyftn Жыл бұрын

vhb tape psu to the back or underside of desk.

@Daniel-dj7fh Жыл бұрын

@@krecikowi I thought you could run it with the brick as long as you're not planning on powering an external gpu?

@kkgc5760 Жыл бұрын

10:38 this is actually pretty applicable for me, i'm someone who have to travel interstate for a week every one or two month. If i buy laptop it's doing nothing 90% of the time, not to mention i have to transfer everything and install same programs. Currently i'm just carrying a nuc with a vega gpu. I'd love to upgrade my gpu the setup in this video is quite tempting.

@fatfurie Жыл бұрын

like you travel with this? im confused how this is more beneficial than a decent laptop in any case. why would you need to transfer files? even then external harddrives and usb sticks.. so many better options

@lejoshmont2093 Жыл бұрын

Why not get a desktop replacement laptop? Dock with epu and take it when ever you need to go.

@Jehty21 Жыл бұрын

So why not just buy a SFF case? They are not that much bigger and a lot less hassle than this abomination.

@kkgc5760 Жыл бұрын

@@lejoshmont2093 i actually brought a asus g14 before, I just couldn't stand the noise because I'm rendering stuff all the time.

@kkgc5760 Жыл бұрын

@@Jehty21 yeah i'm still thinking about this option, i'm actually really tempted to go for the i7 beast canyon nuc and add a 3070, it's 8L and compact and little compromise.

@sjoervanderploeg4340 Жыл бұрын

Pretty cool, I was waiting for something like this for years now! Just a CPU with PCI-Express slot on the side, this makes testing hardware quite the breeze!

@SirSicCrusader Жыл бұрын

I kinda love solutions looking for problems, they are a fascinating head space for design. I have no idea why this thing exists, but I am glad it does.

@royk7712 Жыл бұрын

it basically enlarge intel NUC extreme

@KJMcLaws Жыл бұрын

I don't have any reason to need it but I want it

@Yihaa22 Жыл бұрын

@@mical-9066 It actually does, an example why I'll be getting one (as soon as the 6800u drops) is that I'd like to run emulators in my living rooms (got no cabinets), and still have everything clean af (this thing won't be visible and will look dope on the shelf).This thing can run anything up to nintendo switch (and nintendo switch) (ps3,ps2 etc), so yea quite a nice retro "console", while still being able to play esport titles. And having to hook up my laptop configure it etc etc... yea no thanks

@benwu7980 Жыл бұрын

At least it exists :)

@MaybeAnnatar Жыл бұрын

I can actually think of many reasons to want something like this. I have to move my PC between spaces a lot. It'd be nice to have something that can break down into smaller pieces for transport like this.

@julianbaker_E Жыл бұрын

As a uni student I could see this being useful actually! Leave the gpu and power at my dorm so when I’m back I can hard core game and whatnot but maybe I wanna bring my system over to my friends room to run some party type games. It’s small enough to toss in my backpack and not worry about wrecking it and I wouldn’t necessarily need PCMR POWER to run something like jack box. Perhaps a little niche but I could definitely see myself doing it! Edit: I’m NOT saying it would be better than a laptop in anyway, just that it could have some utility not necessarily that it’s perfect.

@readypetequalmers7360 Жыл бұрын

if they had the PSU mount and an option to run everything (the mini pc +gpu) from that it would be a nice portable system. They were talking like it was big, but to me it seems like it would still be good to take to LAN parties. It shouldn't get as hot as a laptop, so the parts shouldn't have a problem with heat and crumbling after 1-2 years.

@brningpyre Жыл бұрын

I feel like a small form factor PC would be so much better. The dangling PSU is jank af. I can't see why anyone would wanna do this over a laptop. EDIT: Just got to the part about how you can't upgrade it much. Why?

@ibrahimhamed2519 Жыл бұрын

I had similar need and I have acutally solved it by simply buying an ultrabook that I can take to work/uni. At home I simply connect it to an eGPU through thunderbolt cable allowing me to game on a real graphics card together with a monitor and a keyboard hence giving me a real desktop experience.

@jackielinde7568 Жыл бұрын

Except that small form factor cases, like the Corsair 1 do all that, but let you take the GPU and the PSU with. If you need smaller, there are the NUC's from Intel, that have the same footprint as this device. Thinking about it, I think this company could just ditch the PC stuff, and make the base a laptop dock for those who want to use a full size GPU with their laptop at home.

@daylen577 Жыл бұрын

The price point is going to be the issue, at this point it would have to be a third of the cost of a macbook air (M1) to even be worth considering

@frankenstein3163 Жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I need for a backpack pc. I literally was dizining this same setup for the past few weeks. Multipool small box's.

@giovannip.1433 Жыл бұрын

The advantage here is is that it could be a work PC - which you use like a laptop between displays, monitors, projectors etc- which then can be taken home and becomes your home PC. With external storage your work and home life could be discrete but cheaper? Application: people who have to work at home due to quarantine issues - many companies now don't want you coming to work with even a sniffle, sneeze or cough. Upgradeability - the company effectively upgrades your CPU, RAM and motherboard for free. This frees up more cash for that expensive GPU that people desire for 'gaming' use.

@ffwast Жыл бұрын

Seems like this would have been better as a modular chassis with quick-disconnect plugs between enclosed blocks with standard hardware inside.

@apondo100 Жыл бұрын

Man that would be something... With full size itx motherboard and everything

@WyldWolfDragon Жыл бұрын

So a LEGO-Like plug and play PC maybe. lol

@LifeWulf Жыл бұрын

@@WyldWolfDragon Would you buy a PC from LEGO? 🤔

@WyldWolfDragon Жыл бұрын

@@LifeWulf I said lego-like, not built from legos

@ViliamF. Жыл бұрын

@@SyRose901 Quick, destroy all evidence of this conversation before the fruity guys notice!

@fuadhassanfaruk4540 Жыл бұрын

0:03 can everyone appreciate for a moment how smooth that catch was! Specially when it's Linus we're talking about

@jabonought Жыл бұрын

i bet it bounced off the floor a few times first lol

@AndrewFrink Жыл бұрын

that was take 17.

@deadaccount6135 Жыл бұрын

@Fuad Hassan Faruk Waaat? You mean for once Linus didn't drop something?! Somebody call Guinness! Or.... maybe this whole time Linus isn't really that clumsy and has just been faking it. HE'S SECRETLY A NINJA! 🎶 dun dun dun 🎶 😁😁😁

@dhawthorne1634 Жыл бұрын

5:01 "Please tell me no one noticed that" Editor: "OOO! Gotta highlight that one!"

@Drose811 Жыл бұрын

"You're also still connected by a cable." "Yeah yeah don't worry about it." "Yeah it's just a delicate cable.." 😂

@nickyhr Жыл бұрын

I just love seeing these types of builds, so interesting how people come up with different ways to fit more stuff in a tiny space, thanks LMG for showing it off!

@fenixspider5776 Жыл бұрын

there this channel called ETA prime he always shows these kind of PCs and handhelds.

@TrevHolland Жыл бұрын

If they made a better enclosure for everything, I can see an argument for having this with the GPU and a nice monitor at home. Then, when you travel, taking the mini PC part out and getting a portable monitor. So you keep your PC and all your files with you wherever you go. You just forego the graphical oomph you get when you're at home. A lot of people have nice keyboards and mice that they'd rather take with them and use everywhere than deal with a crappy laptop keyboard and trackpad.

@itisabird Жыл бұрын

That is the key part. If everything was enclosed in some L-shaped case that looked like a usual rectangular-shaped case once the mini-PC is attached, it would be an ideal portable desktop computer. Most of us do not want to have a bunch of components and cables dangling around our desk when at home. The idea is good, but the aesthetics need still work.

@joeygo0999 Жыл бұрын

I got mine last Monday! I'm pretty happy so far :D

@mmaaRkers Жыл бұрын

You should have said this machine may or may not be cool, but Crucial definetly is.

@mmaaRkers Жыл бұрын

💀

@thederpling209 Жыл бұрын

@@mmaaRkers y u reply to ur own comment dawg?

@mmaaRkers Жыл бұрын

@@thederpling209 there were a bunch of spam bot replies bruh

@JPMcBoyfriendFace Жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing these. I know these types of projects seem confusing but the holy grail we're all looking for is a portable, Upgradable, Quiet system that gives you Desktop performance. Since most of us plug in for power already, creators (game devs, 3d artists) are looking for systems that could theoretically be taken to the office or travelled around with. Systems we don't have to replace every 2 years for $2500.

@robrym2845 Жыл бұрын

Yes!. This is something that is difficult to make other people understand. I want a portable, upgradable system that I can just put on my backpack and travel to another place (Lan Party, Coworking Space, Friend's House) with the upgradability on mind.

@xXxCobraCommanderxXx Жыл бұрын

Is this a paid ad by the maker? This thing is DDR4 and AM4, it's already obsolete, let alone 2 years from now. Get a laptop.

@sdesmtl Жыл бұрын

@@xXxCobraCommanderxXx A laptop with a good dedicated graphics card is about 2000$. This setup with a good GPU is about 1000$. I like my money in my pocket, thank you. edit: I should rephrase that. If you want a laptop with a good GPU, you need to buy the high end model ($$$). Hard to get a basic cpu with a crazy-fast gpu...

@elebirdz Жыл бұрын

@@sdesmtl Add to that how absolutely garbage modern laptops are in terms of upgradeability and *ahem* repairability, something like this looks way better just for the peace of mind not needing to replace the whole system if one component fails

@robrym2845 Жыл бұрын

@@xXxCobraCommanderxXx That's expensive. Maybe with $1000-$1200 I can buy this mini pc with a decent GPU. If I want to travel to another place while I'm still working I just go out with my mini pc and the gpu would be at home. If my mini pc gets stolen on the trip, I would be losing $700-$800, but my gpu would be safe at home.

@A_d_e_k Жыл бұрын

How is not everyone on planet Earth into mini PCs? The fact that they are so small is sooo practical in so many ways. I really hope they will become better and better over time.

@okutaviof Жыл бұрын

Such as LarkBox Pro , which has the now-old J4125, then the NucBox5 with the much improved N5105 We're now having devices with the N6005, which is great in benchmarks and you can add a nvme .. As for the other mobile-processer minipc... Not so mini, but their mighty.

@NotUwU-_- Жыл бұрын

I love pc but hate looking at them

@Yilmaz4 10 ай бұрын

mini pcs have less customizability and compatibility, also they have less empty space in them making asthetics worse if not non existent

@MrIrondog55 Жыл бұрын

I can see this being handy for either an underdesk-mounted solution (you would need to make some serious brackets) for a gaming rig, or media unit to attach to a TV. It's niche but I'm sure someone has a use for it.

@Scarlet_Soul Жыл бұрын

7:52 oh Linus, you never disappoint

@droneactiongermany Жыл бұрын

ATTENTION!!! THIS IS FAKE! DO NOT CONTACT!

@AltNomad Жыл бұрын

That intro pc flip was smooth AF

@taleg1 Жыл бұрын

Sometimes I almost wish certain parts of computers could be added like they were lego pieces. Think about it, a storage tower where you just snap the drives together and you don't need wires or cooling, just snap to add a drive.. that would be nice. The dock solution in the beginning reminded me of that idea.

@TheMaxilegs Жыл бұрын

Like the 2009 Mac Pro HDD solution. It's pretty clever.

@anxiousearth680 Жыл бұрын

Like a NAS?

@taleg1 Жыл бұрын

@@anxiousearth680 Not quite, but part of a weird computer idea I had a long time ago where each part was a cube and if you wanted more memory, storage, cpu power, gpu, all you had to do was to slot in a second or third such cube and the right side of the core and it would be added into the group sort of. The idea came from that and the stack could be all added with one connection fro IO and one for power. Almost like a single raid stak.

@eugene9852 Жыл бұрын

Except they invariably change interfaces, and then your base system quickly becomes incompatible with the latest versions of the add-on blocks.

@cjwrench07 11 ай бұрын

@@eugene9852 that’s where EU’s *anti planned obsolescence & anti monopoly* regulations can come into play. No more Apple going to a proprietary connector, just so they can have a separate connection monopoly. Now the entire industry decides what is going to be the best new standard. (After the last is tapped out)

@miguelalcantar2421 Жыл бұрын

Got mine today and I'm loving it!!!

@Snookers_ Жыл бұрын

With a little bit more development, this is definitely something I'd be interested in. I like to have my GPU in my house for gaming, but when travelling I don't care too much. I do however, care about files and software I use frequently, and most of the work I do transfers very poorly between multiple machines. Having a top of the line desktop CPU with me is nice too. Currently I just stick my SFFPC in a pelican case, but a system like this (with kinks ironed out) seems much more appealing. I have a laptop as well, but I end up using it almost exclusively for Microsoft Suite applications.

@vffbgx616 Жыл бұрын

Use a laptop with thunderbolt to be able to use external GPU when you're at home.

@Ollv33 Жыл бұрын

lol... so you would rather have this and a bunch of cables and keyboard and mouse plus a monitor than a laptop?

@stephhugnis Жыл бұрын

When traveling by plane I could see this being really useful. Moving even a standard mitx PC by airplane sucks.

@kutilmartin Жыл бұрын

why not just get a laptop and an external gpu bay?

@brendantran3312 Жыл бұрын

You still need a screen...so your gonna carry a seperate screen when a laptop does it all in one

@kutilmartin Жыл бұрын

@@pixels_per_inch you could fit a desktop level CPU in a laptop with only integrated graphics and enough cooling. this mini-pc has comparably thr same heatsink area compared to higher powered laptops

@zeke7515 Жыл бұрын

This looks perfect for someone who wants a Nuc they can travel with, and game with when they're home. Or a Nuc for Plex and a big boy GPU for transcoding.

@Hakingafa Жыл бұрын

As I travel a lot for work, and visit different places where I need my PC and my laptop isn't reliable enough for some applications, I could see myself using a machine like these, plugging an HDMI cable on hotel tv, wireless keyboard and mouse combo I could work from anywhere without relaying on a laptop that crashes all the time when I'm using certain applications, or poor internet connection and then getting home plugging it on a stronger GPU, yeah that would work great for me

@Samus11111 Жыл бұрын

For me, the capability to tear it down to components makes it easy to travel with while the full fat power makes it so that it's like I never left home. Laptops are great, but if you want more power you have to go with larger laptops. And even then, IO is a huge step up on this compared to a laptop. If this wasn't so quirky with needing a standalone PSU and some of the other bits, I'd seriously consider it for when I travel long distances.

@chlorind Жыл бұрын

My heart was stopped for a moment when Linus just throw the GPU, even it is already dead...

@vandna5388 Жыл бұрын

It's a dummy one

@bradhaines3142 Жыл бұрын

literally never worked to begin with

@chlorind Жыл бұрын

@@vandna5388 I know it is a dummy but still...

@flyingdiscproductions Жыл бұрын

thanks for talking about this brand - i have seen the adverts

@maadmaxx123 Жыл бұрын

I actually purchased one of these for my workstation at home. Don't plan on using the discreet graphics card anytime soon but I'm grateful for the expandability and the super small form factor.

@megapet777 Жыл бұрын

I always found these mini computers cool. I think with AM5 there will be some serious potential in the mini PC market segment... but having external GPU and PSU like that doesn't make sense. At that point just build in sfx case.

@Daniel-dj7fh Жыл бұрын

Even this would be a super overpowered living room TV-pc.

@mrburnz884 Жыл бұрын

That was some tough logic hoops to jump through at the end there.

@Emb3dStudios Жыл бұрын

Love when Linus shouts out other tech KZfaqrs. Steve and his team deserve all the love

@yensteel Жыл бұрын

So happy that somebody double checked the pin cable quirk before release.

@demonwares Жыл бұрын

I have an ncase m1 with a crosshair viii impact. There's no compromise there, until 4000 etc come out if the power consumption rumors are true. The max power for ITX is 750w, I wonder how much wattage the 4080 will demand.

@Daffmeister187 Жыл бұрын

Silverstone has a SFX PSU that delivers 1000W. It's SFX though, not SF.

@riba2233 Жыл бұрын

Coolermaster has 1100w sfx supply

@deadmayday6702 Жыл бұрын

@@Daffmeister187 You mean SFX-L not SFX

@davidfaustino4476 Жыл бұрын

Who cares.. the GPU doesn't get much power from the MB..

@Jaymiecain1 Жыл бұрын

As an owner of the Crosshair Viii impact, there is a compromise. The VRM heatsink is so long it interferes with the PCIE lane. My 6800 XT red devil wouldn't fit, as the back plate would scratch against the stupidly long VRM heatsink and against the daughter board for the SSD. The X570i is inferior but doesn't have this stupid issue.

@Boroda4Gaming Жыл бұрын

5:19 Please. Do not.

@Xanderqwerty123 Жыл бұрын

I just got a mini-itx board and, after a lot of troubleshooting with cases and cooling solutions, I settled for a testbench and a full noctua cooler. Looks hilarious but its the most powerful build I've done. This, however, looks like it would have solved a lot of my problems.

@Axeinus Жыл бұрын

the only upside I can think of is being able to properly separate the air flow to each component. I'm using a small form factor and it basically vents the cpu heat directly into the gpu air flow. this unit is a novel concept, which could use a lot more refining. I'm giving it a good pondering if it's going to be worth it to switch cause my issue could just be an overall air flow problem and my system is fine in its current config. will have to see if moving it closer to the window where there's constant fresh air helps

@YoumuEnjoyer Жыл бұрын

a cool thing for the platform would be to make it an enclosed space with mesh on the sides for breathability, so you have the full package wherever you go

@TZED_ Жыл бұрын

That Intro Tho, A mix of everything, laughing jokes and some sickk special effects lol

@Dfence22 Жыл бұрын

Hey Linus, as someone who works in entertainment production i could see this in my work setup if it could be rack mountable. small form factor is best as space is sometimes at a premium in our touring racks. i could run a multi million dollar concert from one if it were rack mountable

@SudoYETI Жыл бұрын

Its a cool concept I'm glad to see someone try but I don't know if I'd ever get it over than my love for tiny powerful builds.

@Fishvap Жыл бұрын

I think a use-case I see for this, is where you're in an office environment and everyone's on the move but you want the power of a typical PC wherever you go, so workstations are setup everywhere in the building so that you can just plug and play.

@pesterenan Жыл бұрын

Anxiety is defined in he dictionary as: "Linus handling PC parts".

@roowut Жыл бұрын

they definitely need to make another base part which would house the psu, and would probably be the best way of keeping it all neat

@Paulkjoss Жыл бұрын

Its sick and I love the way the GPU is on full display and I want one

@hardrivethrutown Жыл бұрын

while I like full tower and other massive cases, I love the idea that I can just slot it into a dock and use a proper GPU

@lastingluminary6573 Жыл бұрын

I love the idea of a platform for a SFF to integrate a full size GPU

@benedictjajo Жыл бұрын

My SFF case can fit a full size GPU. I don't understand what's so special about this one.

@Ronke01 Жыл бұрын

That looks amazing!

@jakestocker4854 Жыл бұрын

I was building ASRock Desk Minis with a Ryzen apu for a while and people loved them. So tiny and even could buy a TV mount

@MagnaV4 Жыл бұрын

I've really been wanting to go mini itx... this is actually really appealing to me. Going from my current 8700k to something like a 5600g isn't much of a difference

@EmptyZoo393 Жыл бұрын

Mini-box has a couple of really nice mini-itx cases that fill a similar role. Haven't built with one yet, but they've got VESA mounting points on the back of the case so you can actually mount your miniature PC on the back of your motherboard. Just pick your cooler carefully.

@abdulhkeem.alhadhrami Жыл бұрын

Linus choosing the words to introduce the sponsor is always hilarious which keeps me coming back every time!

@Codewow Жыл бұрын

Seems like a decent future-proof bulk buy for the bare bones APU model as a basic terminal when your employees are mostly doing web-app based work.

@englishman89 Жыл бұрын

I'm building something like that (small PC case with mini ITX) and thunderbolt as a cheaper alternative to laptop with desktop performance (it's high end i7 CPU and 64GB of RAM) for working on multiple locations. Ability to connect to external PCI x16 seems very interesting and might open other potential use cases or just reusing the PC for gaming at home (I'm not gaming though).

@chrisspellman5952 Жыл бұрын

What I think they should do, is instead of that bottom thing being just a bracket for the most part, have it be a dock. It sort of then turns the mini into the classic "CPU" (remember when people would point at a computer and just call it a CPU). Especially if your someone who uses a laptop... but most if not all the time you simply use a dock, why not have something that has more potential and honestly would be easier to repair and upgrade while being FAR quieter. And if you happen to be at a meeting or something, they could have "terminals" that just have the KVM ready and you'd still be able to work easy. It's not for everyone, but same could be said about laptops.

@Whole_Note Жыл бұрын

I can see it being great for LAN parties and as an emulation station.

@SweBeach2023 Жыл бұрын

Why, just get an ITX build.

@christianhorn1999 Жыл бұрын

if you can live with playing in low settings on LAN, the 5700G is capable of doing it in most games with reasonable fps. all thats missing is a VESA mount to put it behind the display for easy transport. i've build something similar for the next party.

@QuantumQuantonium Жыл бұрын

I think you should check out more embedded platforms. They're usually an affordable compromise between a prebuilt and a custom built, like this build. In particular I got a board from Aaeon and built an OPNsense router with it, but there's all sorts of other features that the board offers, with an i5 CPU powered by a barrel plug, with sodimm, and it has a PCIe (I think x16) slot that I'm using to add a second 2.5g port, in addition to the onboard 1g and 2.5g ports. Accounting for the cost of the RAM, power brick, 2.5g card, and my 3D printed case, it's around the same price as prebuilding, without having to use a sketchy picoPSU or get a thick case just so the stock cooler and RAM can fit, and that's assuming the mobo would boot without integrated graphics if your CPU doesn't have any. But also the company sells more complete embedded systems like this, as well as displays and tablets. It's intended for commercial use or bulk ordering but I was able to get a single board shipped no problem.

@srvuk Жыл бұрын

It is a pointer to the future, small and more easy modular. As we will get multiple variable TDP options too, more energy efficient dependent upon the application use.

@shy3306 Жыл бұрын

Put liquid metal over the whole thing and boom 7% faster!

@marcelroodt Жыл бұрын

Problems aside, I love the attempt. One of these NUC-like SFF cases might actually elegantly solve its problems for them to be a reasonable alternative to ITX.

@LifeWulf Жыл бұрын

Okay, that segue was good enough that I didn’t skip it. Good job Linus.

@Loop_Kat Жыл бұрын

I can think of a few edge cases where this might be good for traveling, but honestly I just really like how it's a tiny, all-enclosed, modular unit that clicks in place with a solid "clunk". It really just tickles that primal engineering part of my brain that loves mechanical functions and sounds, lol

@alvaroszi Жыл бұрын

Great video as usual Linus! I'm actually going to build my own PC in the next month or two and I'm using your videos as guidance :D

@Daniel-dj7fh Жыл бұрын

remember to take your time. and if you have a cheaper motherboard be careful that the pins on the io-shield are bent correctly and don't damage your mother board ports. Bet thing is to put your io-shield on the motherboard and checking everything before clipping the io shield in the case.

@alvaroszi Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh will do! thanks for the tips :)

@DanielH212MC Жыл бұрын

I'm curious, since it has a male 16x slot, can you plug this into a PC as an extension card and turn it into a compute module?

@grahamstewart79 Жыл бұрын

My guess would be that you can plug it into a pc and turn it into a paperweight.

@EmptyZoo393 Жыл бұрын

As PCIe stands right now, no. Had to look up the interface pinouts, but there's a couple of pins that all expect to be masters on the PC side. It could be possible, but it depends on the PCIe controllers baked into your CPU. Those things are slinging data fast enough I doubt there's any room for reconfigurable bits on them. Also, I just found out there are I2C interfaces present on PCIe ports that you could use for some hackery if you're so inclined. Support is iffy depending on the board though.

@dehdesh Жыл бұрын

I do like the idea of just popping in a whole-other workstation if something goes wrong. A tiny 4-drive sas shelf would be a cool addition so that it's just a mobo, ram, and cpu slotting into the other peripherals

@m7md95 Жыл бұрын

i totally see their point, i can use this for my home theater room and i travel a lot so i could take this with me where ever i want and need the extra power for the theater room

@viktorpettersson9975 Жыл бұрын

Its strange to imagine that Linus has kids

@AppoapsisStudios Ай бұрын

4 likes and it’s the first comment? That’s crazy

@herochro Жыл бұрын

That m.2 heat sink is a 5 dollar one from Amazon. Where the heat sink is rubber banded to the ssd. While heat sink is not really needed but this does not look very confidence inspiring.

@Daniel-dj7fh Жыл бұрын

if it's not needed it's just a plus

@thewritingengineer Жыл бұрын

At least Linus is honest about his sponsor spots. Love it!

@RantechRadio Жыл бұрын

Docking stations have been a thing for a long time, som I agree fully onboard with the idea that all the connections should connect to the dock base and maybe just a dual mini cord coming off the top for the GPU that way the docking station is fully stationed and the PC itself can be detached in two actions…power off and pull up and off. Expandable GPU options are always fun to see, and I’d like to see this idea a bit better done with a laptop that has a rear bay full PCI hookup so the laptop can be a slim workstation with expand ability to have a full desktop GPU straight off a streamlined dock. (Perhaps with a flip down shroud. I likely could design that pretty easily as a visual prototype)

@Np-lm1nk Жыл бұрын

If they do a good job with the bracketing for the additional power supply I could see myself buying a handful of these as company computers to replace the laptops we currently provide since it would allow us to provide some more top end monitors to work on while allowing people to detach and take them home at the end of office hours for scripting and our other non-graphic work. Might be biased a tiny bit by the fact I've had to replace more laptops than furniture because everyone has butter fingers and cant seem to keep their computers from finding their final resting place on some hard flooring...

@minisforum Жыл бұрын

Here is the power supply bracket: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qpmWpZObyJe9pGQ.html

@BioGenx2b Жыл бұрын

One way to think of the uses this machine has is that the docking module isn't just for GPUs, but it's a full x16 slot, so any expansion card you want, really. Perhaps that makes it a more appealing product, though I am also still struggling to determine who would be using it.

@lolly166541 Жыл бұрын

I sat here for a few Minutes thinking "What would I need this system for, that a Laptop could not do?" And I genuinely couldn't come up with one. That's basically a laptop without keyboard, mouse, monitor or battery.

@arivald6677 Жыл бұрын

@@lolly166541 It takes less room than a laptop. Mini PC are often used together with big televisions, basically like a super console.

@Randon_Tain Жыл бұрын

@@arivald6677 my thought as well, I see this as a compact desktop gamer PC that you can "undock" and bring to a friends house for console style couch gaming, for less than the cost of a "all in one" laptop that you can't upgrade.

@ryangoff1943 Жыл бұрын

This would be perfect for me in a very specific use-case. Using my pc for gaming in the office, and being able to take it into the garage with a separate monitor for live streaming automotive content, but that seems about it.

@jasonzhang7725 Жыл бұрын

This is just what I have been looking for! I need a SFF computer for schoolwork which I bring to my city house during the week and to my bigger house for the weekend and holidays. I will be gaming on it during the holidays.

@owenyin3316 Жыл бұрын

the moment of fear at 5:02 is killing me lmao

@tobimai4843 Жыл бұрын

One advantage over an ITX system is that it's definitly easier to assemble and in the end has similar performance, that might be interesting for some people

@mrgw98 Жыл бұрын

This is something similar to what I've been wanting from handheld PC's since the Sony UX-180N came out. Having that slider backlit keyboard was nice too. It would be cool to have the PC have a nice CPU that may be throttled when in handheld mode and using onboard graphics. When you get home, simply dock it in to get the full power of the CPU, plus the use of an external better GPU, use of an external power supply packaged in the dock with the GPU, and suddenly your handheld PC is a desktop instead. Similar to how Valve did the Steamdeck (glad someone did something of my idea), it has a handheld UI for on the go and then the full desktop UI when docked. It would work better than the thing reviewed because it still needs a monitor once you undock it. It would also be in a different segment than a laptop as some people want small, handheld, console like computers to play their games on like the Sony PSP, Nintendo DS series, and Nintendo Switch.

@micksam7 Жыл бұрын

I definitely did the "bring my desktop to work" thing back when I couldn't stretch the budget for two machines or one beefy laptop. Did it with a silverstone hugo case. It worked for 2-3 years until I could afford more machines but goodness I never want to do that again.

@vascr0 Жыл бұрын

I just purchased their HX90 based on ETAPrime's updated review regarding the liquid metal, and I'm enjoying it quite a bit. Minisforum seems like a legit company that's pushing the envelope regarding mini pc's.

@travislowrider6623 Жыл бұрын

Can you use an egpu with it?

@vascr0 Жыл бұрын

@@travislowrider6623 Yeah! If you check out ETA Prime's video on it, he showcases and links a nvme to pcie adapter that costs like $80. Apparently it works pretty well too.

@-Graham Жыл бұрын

I love it! But I don't know why... I kinda feel this would suit your upcoming byoc lan party if moving the rig for tournaments happens. It does seem a little unpolished and I would hate to unplug the power as easily as Linus did, that happened a bit too easily. The barebones config does seem like a good deal though! I don't have a lot of money for upgrades atm and as a tinkerer this is oddly attractive, but as I said, I don't know why. I'd love to have a play with one though for sure!

@roowut Жыл бұрын

you could probably design and 3d print a simple bracket that would screw onto the back of the psu and just prevent the cable from being pulled out

@-Graham Жыл бұрын

@@roowut they're probably using a cheap port until its finalised or maybe the power cable shroud was just slightly too small. Easy fix either way

@ThomasOsborn7 Жыл бұрын

I feel like if the base also included some pass through for USBs you could leave the 'dock' on a desktop, or the back of a monitor with all the cables for peripherals on it in place. De-tach it, grab the power brick and sling it to work etc. Where you just have a monitor cable and peripherals or blue tooth devices waiting for you. I's definitely pretty great for blow through GPU cards like a 3080.

@TheDJMusicStudio Жыл бұрын

Kudoz to the editor zooming in on Linus' eyes 👀 at around 5:02. Instant gratification, instantly liked before finishing the video. 👍

@TheDJMusicStudio Жыл бұрын

OMGosh the video gets better. LOL 😆 🤣 😂

@jonnycoolg Жыл бұрын

This concept is amazing!

@MaybeAnnatar Жыл бұрын

HOT TAKE! I think it's perfect for me. I take my desktop with me a lot and having it in a package like this where I could just tear it down into pieces very easily to fit in my bag makes a lot of sense for me. I think with a couple improvements (having a fully featured PSU integrated into the chasis that I can just quickly route a cable from the main box to the GPU) this would genuinely be something I would buy.

@emma70707 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it seems like it could be good for a consultant or someone who travels a lot and stays in a place long enough that they want a full powered GPU in their hotel and also something that's not a gaming laptop when working at the client site.

@DenDodde Жыл бұрын

@@emma70707 But it would still be easier to just have a laptop, with a external GPU.

@MaybeAnnatar Жыл бұрын

@@DenDodde Not necessarily. Not for me at least. I do a lot of work where I need something like a 5950x and a powerful GPU. Mobile grade compenents will literally cost me money by the added time they take to do the tasks I need done. Also external GPU enclosures still usually take up a decent amount of space where I could just have a GPU, the PC, and the platform that puts them together.

@elorrambasdo5233 Жыл бұрын

@@MaybeAnnatar What job do you have?

@maulerrw Жыл бұрын

Would love one of those micro PSUs with it. If the base was slightly thicker you could even make it so it just slotted in and had internal wiring, or a mounting point on the frame if you want it to hang off

@LazyPCRehab Жыл бұрын

Would love to see you guys take a look at the Desk Meet B660.

@0xA9F Жыл бұрын

"Old fashioned" LAN parties might be a use case for the portability and the LAN party provides the monitor. For small factor enthusiasts I guess a complete enclosed solution is more what they want...

@fermitupoupon1754 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking about that, then I remembered that none of the LAN parties I've been to since the 90's have ever provided a monitor. You typically get X*Y amount of table space, Z amount of Watts, a chair and an UTP cable.

@brooklyn11218 Жыл бұрын

Can you guys do a video that explains in-depth why mixing power supply cables can fry your system? I honestly don't get it. It's just a copper extension. Also what is a discreet graphics card? I always thought it was a small one but that one a normal sized card.

@Appri Жыл бұрын

There can be different pinout in PSU cables. Like the component side is good, but the PSU side can be different.

@brookeamm7655 Жыл бұрын

discrete means separate from the onboard/integrated graphics. So if your graphics processor is inside the CPU, that's onboard. If it's a separate card that you plug into the motherboard/an external enclosure, that's discrete

@readypetequalmers7360 Жыл бұрын

sounded to me like it was how the pins are handled. I think they weren't exactly talking about an extension, but a cable that is more of an adapter. (and confusing the two) It would be good for more explanation as I haven't ever played with such cables.

@purpleguy3000 Жыл бұрын

The problem is that while the pins on the motherboard side are standard, the ones on the power supply aren't. Sounds like it doesn't make sense, but it's really down to the internal design of the power supply, because certain pathways are easier to route internally with a non-standard layout.

@kallmedis Жыл бұрын

it is any non-integrated graphics card

@LizardVideoDude Жыл бұрын

It's definitely an interesting idea, and sounds like an improvement on the first version. But an ultraportable laptop + eGPU solves the same problem, although that trades away some performance for better portability, simplicity, and integration. That balance seems a better solution for this situation. However, it's good to have options and some people will prefer the Elitemini's balance. Can't knock that, good for MinisForum for making it and a v2 of it.

@UberWagen Жыл бұрын

You said it! Laptop and egpu is what this old idea eventually evolved into.

@djmartens123 Жыл бұрын

That was actually the best segue ever. You can not top that one. GG

@chlorind Жыл бұрын

This is perfect for my use case. I will graduate soon and I want to have a flexibility to change where I live and work, but want more power for gaming than a laptop so this small form factor is perfect. And if I build a small form factor PC in a case, the thermal is my concern where the space inside case is very packed. But with this thing the GPU and PSU can take the air from outside and it seems no thermal concern for the GPU which is taking the biggest power on this system.