"I will become back my money" is probably the best tweet of all time

Tainted Samson goes to the highest tier if you install the "DOOM music when berserk activates" mod.

Tainted keeper is the most fun because he produces dopamine in every room. Plus he never drags, you either on top of the world or dead and launching new dopamine filled run

I think the best evidence that tainted Eden is trash is that birthrights effect is to just remove their mechanic

Trade offer: You receive putting tainted lost in =) tier, I receive a spike rock death montage.

This is the only dude I can listen talk about his opinions without wanting to rip my hair out.

hearing you say "I'm going to become the joker" before I was actually paying attention made me laugh far too hard

It says a lot about Isaac's longevity that 4 of the newly introduced characters are more fun than all of the cast except 1. It also says a lot about Isaac's balancing when 3 of them are so bad they needed a whole new tier just for them.

tainted cain has too much consistency, tainted eden doesn't have enough

Eden as a character is at their most fun on the 0th room of play.

Tainted Jacob is the most laugh riot “I’m going to become the Joker” character

i love how there is like 5 seconds of silence, and then ''i'm going to become the joker''

So in this one it isn't "Gun to your head, win the next Isaac run" but instead "Gun to your head, you only get one more Isaac run"? Also couldn't agree more that The Lost is the StS of Isaac characters

Lazarus fun tip: Don't treat the revive as "Have to do it to become stronger". Base Lazarus is fine. His actual strenght is being able to make incredibly potent use out of items like Damocles, or basically for free collect the boss item in the mirror world, since he has much less to fear there

I really miss when you could cheese out some stuff to make blue baby stronger, like the permanent strenght card hp up and using the lovers in the cathedral to get two spirit hearts.

Blue Baby unironically getting shit on 24/7

In repentance, you can void an item if you click space fast enough while picking the item. Useful, keep it. Trash? Void it quick. This is useful when having curse of the blind. This one run i had, I saved my run by voiding missing no so going off of just that one run, apollyon has to be on so much fun tier for me

"Horror can be a little scary" - Ryan Gary 2021

The "I'm going to become the Joker" tier slayed me every time you mentioned it. ...Every time.

in both this tier list and the power tier list NL didn't mention Cain having the paperclip which imo is huge appeal for him.

Your concept for a better tainted Cain was how I thought he actually worked when you played him for the first time, recipes gave you random items based on how much value you were willing to put in it. Finding out it’s actually just a giant list of codes was a huge bummer

i think tainted eden would at least be playable if they removed shard of glass and 9 lives from the pool, not super fun still imo, but playable

Cain (rebuffed) is cool in that it makes it that you are really happy to see pills. A couple of balls of steel and tears up, and you get really powerful without needing strong items.

Cains recipes could be random, but then I feel like adding a bunch of strong consumables should also guarantee a high quality item. Eternal hearts give angel room, black hearts devil room, rotten hearts curse rooms, bone hearts secret rooms. I think pills and cards should take from the shop pool. Which is fine because the shop is more common too.

This is the tier list I actually wanted to see

Jacob and Esau would be way more fun if they still had a slightly larger hitbox but didn't separate accidentally. like, maybe they just hold hands or something? and separate when u press the button? would be sick imo

they actually implemented his tainted cain idea

tainted jacob: "they are 10 times more fun than they are powerful" uuh 0 x 10 is still 0

Several of the tainted characters, such as Eden, Jacob, and ???, would have worked much better as one-off challenges rather than entire characters where you have to do multiple runs to fill out the post-it note. The gimmick inevitably wears thin even when it isn't actually weak.

The tier names are killing me lol, I love them

The most fun for Ryan Gary is obviously Tainted Lazarus because of how many times he played him

24:27 He really did become the joker

watching this while playing tarkov so i have a perfectly neutral time

"Who's The Most Fun Repentance Character?" AKA "NL craps on Blue Baby for 40 minutes straight"

I think what I would've maybe done is made it so T. Eden had an active item like 4 or so charges that could change any item into a TMTrainer item, but with slightly improved effects over actual TMTrainer items.

tainted laz could have tainted isaac pedestal effect and the opposite item is given to the opposite side (or it sits there and can only be taken by opposite side)

for T cain personally what i like doing is i have this document where im writing down cool items that i find just casually throughout my runs with him. So instead of forcing every run to be exactly perfect the character actually gets better and better each time i play them

honestly all choices are on point. nl never disappoints

Why is judas fun? 'cause it's scary... and horror, can be a little scary...

you made a epic video with your pog Isaac. I will become back a subscriber. Great video, love ya NL!

NL's criticism of Tainted Isaac is just a reminder he's only played it like 5 times, definitely the least played of the whole list. He mentions that T.Isaac is anti item synergy but he's a literal synergy magnet. I've never seen or ever even thought of Ludo + Eye of the Occult + Soy Milk outside of T.Isaac, never mind that his ability to drop items enables consistently Diplopia-ing Brimstone (and other cool items that stack but you can almost never double).

I legitimately clapped when he put regular keeper in laugh riot

I love how a lot of characters are on different tiers than their "strength" tier. And I don't mean their naming convention. All of your placements seem to be on-point for you dude. Also, love "I'm going to become the joker" and "I will become back my money". They're a laugh riot (HAHA)

NL the placement for Cain is fine with me but PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE HIS EXTRA DAMAGE 😭😭😭

I completely agree with your change sugestion on Tainted Cain. I'm also on the opinion that his mechanic it's kinda tedious for me and that change would do wonders for me.

Respect your opinion and agree with almost all of the rankings, but strong disagree on placing normal Lilith under normal Maggie. I actually like the blindfolded gimmick and think it makes her stand out a little more. Also, I feel like it's really fun when you manage to build around Cambion Conception or when you manage to get some more familiars from item rooms. Maggie is very starter-friendly but other than that a bit of a snoozefest imo. Just my opinion. Great video!

I wonder if his opinion changed for Lazarus after he got buffed and has infinite respawns once per floor that gives a perma damage increase for both Lazarus.

Tainted Cain is a similar idea as journey mode in terraria. The best way to play him is to look up items/synergies you would want to get normally and then try to get them

love those tier names

Hey NL, you think you'll check out poker quest? It seems right up your alley.

I think Tainted Cain is because you can build all the cool synergies that you see online but never get in game. You can build those cases where item X is untakable unless you also have item Y and you can actually try them out which is a really cool option to have

There was a certain point in time when I only played lost and ever since I've been absolutely scared out of my mind whenever I lose a mantle

Tainted Jacob is so underrated, he was such a blast to grind out all marks for and honestly he wasn’t that difficult. Mother mark aside he is definitely a laugh riot

About Jacob & Esau, the way I made to get the completion marks was to give a lot of size reduction itens to one character, than it was passible to fit both of then "at the same spot"... And then, it is "fine" to play as them

Argument for eden: what if you start with the d6

I always found Lilith to be the most fun. I just enjoy building an army of familiars.

tainted apollyon stans rise up

I'm learning a lot about what Enelle gets out of this game. After so many hours, he just wants to feel something, leading to dangerous and self-destructive levels of zane

Tainted Cain is only fun on Greed mode, or if you have the tools to make all the item crafting stuff, which then it makes it the most op character

Zane*Zane=Joker Damage=sleeper Zane*Difficulty-Damage=money back (Damage+Zane)*1.3Difficulty=Fun

Putting the lost so high up is insane!

I think most of the frustration from Jacob&Esau would be removed if Esau just automatically followed you instead of being directly linked to your movement then constantly getting stuck and desynced

The people saying that tainted Cain is fun are the same people who didn't know every item has its own unique recipe

I am become back my money, destroyer of worlds

Tainted Lilith has the Mom's Knife problem. So strong, but you lose a lot of the fun from synergies.

am i the only one that loves Lilith man. yeah incubus a little awkward but in the same sense that book of virtues activates a ton of active items that you would rather throw into an incinerator, Lilith does the same for a lot of familiars. i am forced to respect lil Steven. where on everyone else I'm hunting a sacred heart or brimstone, I'm hunting a bff, a rotten baby. and as far as base characters go, one of the most creative ones.

Egg has made the only tier lists I agree with on isaac , a true god gamer

13:05 why would you use Void to suck up a bad spacebar item in the first place?

If tainted cain had his recipes randomized each save slot, that could be a game in it self.

J&E are in 'So much fun!!!' for me. The duo mechanic leads to a lot of creative play that you can't do with a solo character. Today I had Esau holding Placebo with Percs for the Beast fight, and after using Placebo on himself for the buff was able to mid fight pass the pill over to Jacob to give him the buff as well. They can be frustrating but it's worth it for 4D chess moments like that, imo.

Tainted Laz is nearly impossible for Greedier mode. Not only your active spacebar item and card effects dissapear every few seconds (which is bullshit), but you also get staggered every wave... and that is even worst, because room is filled with enemies you cannot even try to hit for a while. With all fairness tho, Tainted Laz feels like it have potential to be kinda Jacob & Isau, done right, with small tweaks and entire big fix for greedier. Tainted Jacob is (almost) incredibly fun. I really had a blast for a while, skillfully dodging and using your evil twin as a weapon. I was like "huh... people really hate him? he is kinda amazing"... aaaand then your twin starting to die incredibly quickly and all that fun is going down Dross. Make it invincible or at least immune to enemy damage and there is tons of fun waiting.

Are you even qualified to make a tier list on this? How many hours of Isaac do you have? Oh, over 9000. Nevermind.

I think that an easy gimmicky fix to tainted laz would be double item pedestals. When you find a pedestal there would be two items on it. one in front and another hiding in its shadow the one hiding in its shadow will go to zombie laz and the one in front will go to regular laz. So you have to flip to get the items on the right characters or sometimes you might reject a really good item like brimstone because it means your other half has to put up with a horrible item.

i will become back my money

There is a bunch more to say about the lost. He always drop A+ trinket, flight and spectral tears, rerolls HP items, HP down pills do nothing, he finds better items He is the most fun I had playing isaac

Just learned that if you choose random and it lands on eden in ab+ it won't cost an eden token.

Funny how far we've come. WoTL to Afterbirth, I'd have placed Samson and Blue Baby (aka Hard Mode Isaac) in Laugh Riot. Pre-Holy Mantle The Lost, definitely not.

The normal lost is hella fun even as a person who sometimes gets 30+ losing streaks I’m happy *Tainted lost on the other hand…*

Tainted Cain would be really cool if instead of the recipes being global they were based on personal installation of your game, so you would need to find your own recipes

Yooo they took your idea for tainted cain

I'm gonna put the rankings for each character on both tier lists. Top in both tiers: T. Lilith, T. Bethany Top in power, above average in fun: The Forgotten Top in fun, above average in power: T. Forgotten Top in power, mid in fun: Azazel Top in fun, mid in power: T. Keeper Top in fun, below average in power: The Lost, the Keeper Top in power, bottom in fun: T. Cain Above average in both tiers: Isaac, T. Judas, T. Samson, T. Azazel Above average in power, mid in fun: Samson, T. Isaac Above average in fun, mid in power: Judas, Eden, Bethany, T. Maggie, T. Apollyon Mid in both tiers: Maggie, Cain Mid in fun, below average in power: Both Eves, Apollyon Mid in fun, bottom in power: T. Lost Below average in both tiers: Both Blue Babies, Lazarus, Lilith Below average in fun, bottom in power: Both Jacobs Bottom in both tiers: T. Eden, T. Lazarus

This is perhaps the only video about a man giving his opinions without the comment section going crazy trying to “correct” him

"I'm taking damage from nothing?" pretty much sums up the Tainted Eden experience

30:20 YESSS! I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO FIDGETS WITH THEIR NAIL CLIPPERS!

Make it to where all recipes except maybe birthright as a difficult recipe, as random, and when u can make birthright, the recipes become set to certain recipes again.

I really like keeper as well, but not for your reasons, i like him because if you get enough tears ups he can get triple shot 5 tears, if you can get to that he becomes op but the cap of health makes him balanced imo

I think people sleep on tainted laz, I really enjoy that sense of building two runs simultaneously, I think it's fun and interesting. It also makes him great for big boss fights since you can tag out when one champ is low

These tiernames are driving me crazy

Okay, so i have a idea for t.lazarus, make them start with a item called the broken d6, this item will spawn another pedestal in a room that has only one pedestal, and it can only be used twice per floor, it only works on item rooms and boss room, and also it rerolls the current item in the pedestal, so you would have to choose if you want 2 items but you reroll the first one, or if you think that the first item you get is strong enough to not be rerolled you do not get the second item

IDK why, but Lilith, Tlilith, and Tapollyon were the most fun for me, the alternative to tears is always fun, the forgotten is near them , but they are the best

The first 3 minutes is just NL talking about how much fun gambling is😂

You have the fun feast or famine characters with Judas being the most tame, then keeper, then the lost, but the tainted lost takes it too far. It’s fun for me now just trying to get the completion marks, but I don’t plan on using the character that much. The lost is the perfect balance of risk/reward, definitely on if my favourite characters to play.

Need a new item tier list! But maybe so it isn't 4 hours you break them up into groups (angel/devil/only item shop).

ISSAC CONTENT THATS NOT ISSAC. He’s ascending

“Horror is sometimes scary” no way

Maggy bores me to no end XD I recently bought the game, and I haven't played a single run with her XD I have already unlocked all the regular character, but I still refuse to touch her XD

I like Lazarus because he has funny hair

Wonder how NL feels about the BB buff he recently got.

ngl, this is poggers.

24:27 Me when NL plays Tainted Eve and gets Psy Fly