Who should be England's next manager? 🤔 Simon Jordan, Dean Ashton and Jim White debate!

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Should Gareth Southgate still be England's manager for the Euros? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Dean Ashton discuss!
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@roy9816 Жыл бұрын

For gods sake GO. I'm in my seventies, I can't afford another Southgate tournament. 😂

@davidcraggs3533 Жыл бұрын

God I feel your pain

@tonyshortland8812 Жыл бұрын

Roy, if you were 21. You'd still not see an England trophy

@garywallace5602 Жыл бұрын

Roy, you could afford 3 Sven tournaments though...with the "golden" generation.

@ghsense2626 Жыл бұрын

Credit to you for knowing how to use technology

@isaacisaac9658 Жыл бұрын

You mean tournaments in which your team advances farther than they have in the past 50 years? Under a manager who has many knockouts wins as all of the other managers in the 50 previous years before him combined?

@tonyshortland8812 Жыл бұрын

A nice man, with a defensive attitude, who deals with the press well. No trophys though

@Klinsmann1985 Жыл бұрын

Most international managers don't have trophies, you only get a shot once every two years

@freddieqmercury5961 Жыл бұрын

It looks like he is a friend to the players, is that what manager/boss, should be? I’m sure he is a good person and does what the FA wants, but you need a more ruthless man at the helm, in my opinion.

@Klinsmann1985 Жыл бұрын

@@freddieqmercury5961 I think international management is an underrated skill which doesn't cross over to club management. I completely accept criticism of Southgate's reluctance to make in game changes but I also think he is extremely close to being the ideal international manager. I really hope if we change manager it brings the trophy we all want, but I think it's more likely we'll be out in the group stages and looking for another new manager in two years

@isaacisaac9658 Жыл бұрын

England were (and still are?) leading the tournament in goals scored. The “defensive” narrative is so overblown

@jungleuk Жыл бұрын

@@isaacisaac9658 yeah but Simon says it, so it's true

@fightguyuk4772 Жыл бұрын

Get Dean Ashton on every week instead of Trevor Sinclair!! Been very good on commentary through the WC & kept calm when Simon Jordan’s got on one 👍🏼

@MrBernad09 Жыл бұрын

Completely agree Dean Aston does come up with great point's and has great knowledge of the game hope to see more of him on talksport. Main guy i can't stand is Danny Mill's he's awful.

@Clem_Fandango11 Жыл бұрын

Thought Sinclair had been sacked.

@robertmason6366 Жыл бұрын

Sinclair won't be coming back. Imagine people phoning in when he's on the panel. He will get heckled every day and rightly so. Ashton is a good foil for Simon and better then Southgates bestie:- soy boy Mills.

@Chas10691 Жыл бұрын

"I belive its not the fear of loosing thats make you a winner, its the desire to win "..." that unstoppable greed to do everything possible" Jurgen Klopp

@ASBsweet Жыл бұрын

Nice one.... Where do you go from there? Who has that mentality who can take over from GS?

@lsmith3942 Жыл бұрын

Thomas Tuchel knockout specialist: 2 UCL finals in a row, 5 finals in 1.5 years at Chelsea. We will be hard to beat with his tactics and he’s done well in England with flexible in game management, his teams always press well etc and done all that with Werner Mount Lukaku etc up top. BRING IN TUCHEL

@Pad13 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. He turned that Chelsea team around in his first half season in the prem and won them a champions league. That proves he can quickly instil his ideas. A lot of people calling for an English manager that “understands the culture”. I’m not sure that argument holds weight when our top club teams are multi-national squads managed by foreigners. I’d happily see Potter or Howe manage England one day but for now they need to develop their skills at their respective clubs.

@truecockney438 Жыл бұрын

Are you by any chance a chelsea fan

@hudson7354 Жыл бұрын

Shut up tuchel pathetic

@Pad13 Жыл бұрын

@@truecockney438 I’m a United fan and I’d have him.

@modelcitizen9279 Жыл бұрын

Tuchel is an amazing tactician, born winner at all costs! Upsets a few people as a result, but that'll be forgotten in the future.

@s-b6218 Жыл бұрын

Gareth should be Spurs next manager. Its suited perfectly for him

@ianbetts4266 Жыл бұрын

Are you joking, he's not good enough to manage a premier league team.

@CEO786 Жыл бұрын

@@ianbetts4266 he’s good enough to take spurs to the lower leagues

@neilherring Жыл бұрын

England's last three tournaments, played four decent teams, Belgium (twice), Croatia, Italy, and France. Lost all of them, only scored 3 goals in those matches, and one was a penalty.

@leonhughes9014 Жыл бұрын

and also saying England were close as they missed that penalty.. well that penalty wasn't won by England it was a sheer moment of madness by a French defender.. they were given the penalty

@Josh-ss9zb Жыл бұрын

@@leonhughes9014 And the pen would've made us level anyway, not like it would've won us the game. I wouldn't have put it past the french to get another goal through us after

@gspianoguitar4369 Жыл бұрын

After I watched the Croatia semi final in Russia 2018, I said then 'under Southgate we will never win anything because he's happier trying to not lose a big game rather than take it by the throat and win it. 'I would have loved to have been wrong. Sadly, I was right.

@FurioussBear Жыл бұрын

Under any manager you won't win anything 😂

@tsampson6660 Жыл бұрын

he changed tact this time. kane missing his penalty is why we are out

@gspianoguitar4369 Жыл бұрын

@@FurioussBear Wrong! A positive and courageous manager ready to take risks with the depth of talent we have will win. Definitely imo. I've seen no squad in this tournament that can either match or better the group of young players England have. It's criminal that they have not progressed under Southgate. Tactically he's so lacking - wrong substitutions, timings and personel. He tries to not lose. He's shown the same pattern every time at the major tournaments. WIth this group a manager that went out being confident from the first whistle will win a big one. It's pretty obvious to me anyway

@FurioussBear Жыл бұрын

@GS PianoGuitar bruh. Spain Brazil and Portugal all had a better squad. Calm down

@gspianoguitar4369 Жыл бұрын

@@tsampson6660 Where did he change? The first half we had Henderson playing as a 3rd centre back 'controlling' the tempo -in his own half! playing sideways passes never going forwards with the ball. France scored and we had to get forward but they sat back and waited. In the 2nd half finally we went for it started getting forward. Saka our best player - gets subbed off! Grealish Rashford Madison stay on the bench. He brings on Mount. They score again He still leaves Grealish (our most inventive player) ON the bench. We did not dominate anything. We did NOT create chance after chance.We created two penalties. France picked us off ...like a good side would do. If he were positive and went for it from the start and kept it up we may well have won. Definitely the case against Italy last summer and Croatia in 2018. I'll say it again - we are winning nothing under Southgate

@glazersout4272 Жыл бұрын

If you've just hit your opponent with a left hook and he's staggering all over the place, you follow up with a flurry! You go for him! You don't just dance around the ring and give him a chance to recover. That's the problem with Southgate - he hasn't got the killer attitude.

@2011hwalker Жыл бұрын

or maybe France was just better than England...mmmmm

@noneofyourbeeswax01 Жыл бұрын

Let's face it, when you're in that position and looking for the killer blow, who really thinks _"Time to throw on Mounty!"?_

@Andre_Heyyaaaaa Жыл бұрын

@@2011hwalker England played better than France and Lloris had a lot more work to do than Pickford. The reality of the game is that the better team does not always win.

@Officialkingz1 Жыл бұрын

@@Andre_Heyyaaaaa The reality of the game is France won the game. Another reality is history doesn't remember losers.

@harrybutcher3627 Жыл бұрын

If England had made subs and lost, everyone would be saying why did he make subs when we were on top?

@sumostorms Жыл бұрын

Southgate is some players best friend who are guaranteed to be selected and play. That’s why England will NEVER win trophies with Southgate as coach. It was the same with Ole at man United

@davidwalsh8241 Жыл бұрын

England haven't won anything since 66 so we're all the other English managers pally with the players maybe they are just not good enough.

@ASBsweet Жыл бұрын

This is nothing like Olly 🙄

@glasgowmedia7421 Жыл бұрын

England are going backwards under Southgate. They have been demoted to league B in the nations league and hammered at home 0-4 by Hungary. They are not going to win any competition anytime soon but the manager is not helping get the best out of quite ordinary players.

@ReedsOfBabylon Жыл бұрын

they're not though are they

@ycymrobach9012 Жыл бұрын

🎯

@thetwitterlectual9528 Жыл бұрын

Does anybody really care about the Nations League?

@davidwhitton9050 Жыл бұрын

It counts towards international rankings now I believe, low ranking harder draws in competitions

@hudson7354 Жыл бұрын

@@thetwitterlectual9528England did when they got to the last 4 ! And it’s about rankings

@bobbySumpton Жыл бұрын

Excellent from Dean. He should be on more, for sure. Very measured

@kingdunn703 Жыл бұрын

Simon “ no nonsense “ Jordan telling it how it is once again !!

@jb894 Жыл бұрын

Courage of your convictions

@michaelwallden7261 Жыл бұрын

jordan has no experience from beeing a manager

@kingdunn703 Жыл бұрын

@@michaelwallden7261 neither do you or anyone else that comments on KZfaq but your still entitled to an opinion or make an observation as long as you have valid points to back up what your saying

@kingdunn703 Жыл бұрын

Also has bags of experience in owning a football club which employs the manager 😂😂😂😂

@michaelwallden7261 Жыл бұрын

@@kingdunn703 backing up..dont U understand what i am saying....country is not the criteria the model and quality is do U understand

@jedsithor Жыл бұрын

I honestly think had England put Rashford on at around 60-odd minutes then they would have won the game. Most of England's wide players like the ball to feet. Rashford does too even though he struggles at times but by far his best attribute is running in behind and he's better at it than anyone else in the England squad. Why is that important? Because France's defenders were beginning to push up. There was some space opening up. Meanwhile, Harry Kane was doing what he likes to do, coming deep to be a playmaker but to be effective at that he needs runners. He has Son at Spurs and for England he has Rashford whose confidence was high and he was bang in form. Furthermore, all the talk in France was that Rashford was England's biggest threat. There's a reason PSG want to sign him. The French rate him more than his own international manager does. The way the game was shaping up, bringing Rashford on at around 60 minutes for Henderson and moving Foden into the 10 was the way to go. France were there for the taking. But by the time Rashford did come on, it was the 85th minute, France already had their lead goal and didn't need to push high anymore, thus negating the effect that Rashford could have had if Southgate wasn't such a coward. I'm not even English and Southgate frustrates the hell out of me.

@Len2415 Жыл бұрын

Awesome analysis

@Klinsmann1985 Жыл бұрын

You never know for sure but that sounds pretty sensible to me. The most disappointing thing is that he hasn't learned that lesson from the Euros final

@dariusblake7339 Жыл бұрын

great point, never considered the PSG link it says a lot about where England are compared to France

@sugoshiyer1540 Жыл бұрын

Totally..when the game was level and england was in ascendancy, a killer manger would have made that change...he might have also got on sterling for kane last 10 mins, moving Rashfor centrally... Had he still.lost post these proactive changes , then he deserved a pass and would have given his all....but I think he was playing for penalties as soon as England equalized

@sugoshiyer1540 Жыл бұрын

The main problem is that Southgate has not been a proper manager and has not played many games as one..he does not know when the team is in ascendency and when they need to be pragmatic- he was brought in to get England competing in tournaments and not losing to the likes of iceland , repair the image of the team. When he took over in 2016 , the players were average..now these players are top but he still manages the same way and that's the gap..the players have evolved but he has not...

@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын

Simon or Sean Dyche should be England manager

@sammybeck4855 Жыл бұрын

Simon, Sean and Spectre = Top LADS Proper Clobber

@decode3667 Жыл бұрын

Southgate is a genius with media & PR. He takes time off from the spotlights & he knows his journalists friends will do all the PR to keep him on the job, while he stays invisible. He stays invisible until fans get heated about CL, EPL & club football... they will no longer care or get heated after a while. This man knows how to avoid trouble or to push trouble away, he doesn't have to face interviews answering questions or facing the issues fans have with him. Pure genius, if only he was as good tactician.

@merkingGuy Жыл бұрын

Great point

@noneofyourbeeswax01 Жыл бұрын

Glen Hoddle once gave the media a false line0-up in order to decieve the opposition. They never forgave him. The Daily Mirror's Harry Harrison brazenly admitted they were all just waiting for him to slip up after that so they could stick the knife in - and they did. So you're spot on when you point out that Gareth has understood that next to actually winning something, having good relations with the media is the best protection and England manager can have. Solskjaer was a friend to players and reached finals and semi-finals, the narrative was a loser who was a bit of a soft touch, but these same traits are an asset for Southgate? Does not compute. Yes I know club and international football have their differences, it is of no matter.

@pjduff7577 Жыл бұрын

That danny mills line 🤣🤣🤣

@nathanroberts6356 Жыл бұрын

The issue is that due to the increase in international games played it has inflated many coaches and teams records, It is purely down to tournament results and performances against top teams, England have ultimately failed at the important stages so there needs to be a change which can only be the manager as the talent pool is fixed

@ryanbrodsky4386 Жыл бұрын

Wenger for a 2yr contract till the end of the Euros, then maybe Eddie Howe will be available to take the reigns.

@kadiummusic Жыл бұрын

Great shout.

@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 Жыл бұрын

Wenger….no way

@farindeeba543 Жыл бұрын

I’ve said this for ages 👍

@66kaisersoza Жыл бұрын

He's finished

@mrmatt8949 Жыл бұрын

Eddie will do a Fergie at Newcastle

@randisallah Жыл бұрын

I'd like to point out that Simon Jordan, and others, said only last week something along the lines of "If we do lose to the French, so long as we don't get pumped 5 or 6 nil and we play our game, then there's no shame in going out to the champions". Well that's exactly what happened and now we're saying we should sack him, am I missing something...?

@keelans5230 Жыл бұрын

Think it’s probably based on the fact that we had france on the ropes and still lost

@Paul-pj5sz Жыл бұрын

Back then that was expected though, no one thought we would play like that against France. Another opportunity wasted just like the Italy final because Southgate is a reactive manager and has no grit about him.

@TheSpoovy Жыл бұрын

He's just a windbag, pure emotion coming from him all the time and no sense. I'm gutted we went out too but no amount of scapegoating or "demanding" victory will make it happen, the universe just doesn't work like that. All that happens is we get the pressure cooker environment which creates the heavy england shirt and makes us worse. I thought we'd learnt that lesson. Clearly Jordan hasn't.

@chriswilkinson7636 Жыл бұрын

Simon Jordan changes his opinions with the wind. He just says what he thinks most of his listeners will agree with.

@frankmcconnellogue3351 Жыл бұрын

England have been on the cusp of winning since 1966 . Every tournament since then they always had relatively easy first round draws and then when the big games come around they bottle it. Croatia have a population of 3.7million and look at their performances over the years .

@2011hwalker Жыл бұрын

Croatia got wiped in the semi final though, their golden generation has gone home without trophies....

@Rob-cy8xc Жыл бұрын

China have 1.3 billion? What’s you point ?

@alfredthegreat9543 Жыл бұрын

How about Arsene Wenger? Gets the job done when he has the players to do so, very attacking minded, knows the PL and players like the back of his hand, and players love him. I think he'd get the best out of our players.

@josesesade5732 Жыл бұрын

Great shout and at least the football would be good to watch

@leemcgregor264 Жыл бұрын

Great hearing Dean Ashton on the show today. He talks a lot of sense & gives a good opinion from the player's side. Talksport need to sub Gabby for Dean

@voetbal12 Жыл бұрын

Stop making sense. Gabby is black, they can't replace him with Ashton

@shanginadildo Жыл бұрын

They've got a quota to fill, competence doesn't come into it

@leemcgregor264 Жыл бұрын

@@shanginadildo haha I'm so naive.....Gabby needs to become a "Gabby" then if he's to keep his seat at TS

@iainsutherland1113 Жыл бұрын

I agree with Simon about experience of ‘winning’ but I fear that it’s not Southgate, it’s us as a whole country when it comes to football. It’s no coincidence that the same handful of teams continue to win the big tournaments. It can’t just be down to the group of players because England arguably have one of the best groups of players to choose a team from. I can see Germany, Italy or Portugal winning a WC or Euros before we do because they know how to do it.

@BlackBeltNob Жыл бұрын

Spot on, look at all the comments and coverage from us lot, it's us as a Country. We voted in Boris ffs, says it all

@cj_thegamergoon1201 Жыл бұрын

I disagree I think there are plenty of winners this country has seen football player wise at one point the champions league semi finals was just English teams. The issue has always been poor management, Southgate went from getting boro regulated after 2 seasons to the England job. Imagine if we actually gave the job to someone who has actually done something in football at the top level

@herbert9241 Жыл бұрын

It's not us as a country, it's the FA, they're pulling in a different direction to grass roots supporters and players. As a former sporting competitor, I'd say there are more important things than winning. Crucially, never giving up - which is, if anything, conducive to winning. Top priority for the FA is wearing a blazer and tie with distinction. Southgate is their dry dream in that respect but it doesn't affect our chances of winning anything. In fact it does - negatively: if they're frigid and uptight about candidates who have a bit of colour to their character. Admittedly, they had their fingers burned with Big Sam - but that situation needn't have been terminal, it was clearly a journalist sting. Ditto with Venables and Hoddle - two English managers who made progress with the national team and ultimately got no back-up from the FA when they made front page news. Yet every milquetoast appointment is furnished with a new contract before their progress is tested in tournament. It wouldn't be unreasonable to leave the contract offer until after the tournament as an incentive for the tournament. Indeed, that would be normal. I don't want oafs or drunks representing my country but that doesn't make this lot steely-eyed Spartan warriors. They're all about portraying themselves as prim and proper girl guides but they're not averse to a bit of cheating. They should forget about their showbiz profiles and just let their feet do the talking.

@leok7479 Жыл бұрын

He has to go! His in game management hasn’t improved one bit. He hasn’t learnt from his mistakes sadly. The reality is that he does alright because the squad is exceptional, but we’ve fallen at the last hurdle due to his inability to use the squad properly and because he’s a scared reactive manager. bottle job.

@pelcenglishcourses1841 Жыл бұрын

A lack of good players might explain it. I mean, Henderson, Shaw, McGuire. Don't get me started on Sterling. It's time to go Gareth.

@footlong4769 Жыл бұрын

What qualifications did Gareth Southgate have to get get this job? Can I have ago?

@lllccc1288 Жыл бұрын

relegated with middlesbrough, English, looks smart-ish, thats about it

@davidjames1377 Жыл бұрын

It wasn't the penalty kick that let us down, it was not scoring from open play.

@ASBsweet Жыл бұрын

It was both.....

@gumzbenjamin85 Жыл бұрын

England's problem is the media. You over do it and it gets into the players heads

@amxdai4568 Жыл бұрын

Talking absolute shite mate. If that was the case, they wouldn’t have put in such a good second half performance. This most recent failure was yet again tactical flaws.

@gumzbenjamin85 Жыл бұрын

@@amxdai4568 ,played well, performed well, almost won but nothing to show tournament after tournament. What trophy did England win for all their good performance?

@amxdai4568 Жыл бұрын

@@gumzbenjamin85 I’m not sure whether you were trying to but you’ve literally just proven my point?

@johnlawler6476 Жыл бұрын

@@steorswe I thought that too. But I think they have blown up Bellingham way too much. He's a fantastic young player but his positional sense needs alot of work

@AM2K2 Жыл бұрын

This is a cliched response

@joseph7824 Жыл бұрын

It's pretty simple really,the team as a whole is overhyped. More realistic expectations based on ability is the only logical take on this. Expectation and reality are two different things.

@darthvadar441 Жыл бұрын

If a top Manager had been in charge of the English team they would have won the euros and possibly even one of the world cups.

@robertsimkin3949 Жыл бұрын

Your not wrong but it didnt need to be a top manager just somebody who knew what he was doing and picked a team to win playing the type of football which allows them to express themselves southgate has had two tornaments now with arguably some of the best players in the world and hes done nothing he should of gone 2 years ago when he lost us that competition

@hudson7354 Жыл бұрын

They would not

@yoshiwoollyworld Жыл бұрын

@@hudson7354 the manager would have won euro 2020 vs a disorganized italy side

@ziphowophula7697 Жыл бұрын

Simon speaks like a true fan that knows and understands ball

@mchukdez Жыл бұрын

The observation that “England were one penalty kick away” is laughable to say the least.

@tamaadam Жыл бұрын

... and lazy

@josesesade5732 Жыл бұрын

Fact that French team would've found way to win they're just too lethal

@mchukdez Жыл бұрын

@@josesesade5732 Exactly. There’s a barrier no matter how talented England teams are. They need to find out what it is, but first they need to drop the “it’s coming home nonsense.” The Premier League makes them delusional.

@iainrae6159 Жыл бұрын

A football game lasts 90mins but blokes talk about it 24 hours a day every day. I'd be lost without endless debate about managers, formations, building for the future, and post match analysis from excellent pundits like Simon Jim and Danny.

@chriswilliamson7694 Жыл бұрын

If (big if) Tuchel is genuinely interested I'd consider him. He's the only non-English option which is being bandied around which I'd welcome. I think Southgate will stay until Euro 2024 anyway, by which point Tuchel will be employed elsewhere.

@Respect-pd3yn Жыл бұрын

People okay with Tuchel like he plays free flowing ultra attack football He is also a negative coach and him being foreign will make things worse

@FeelMyFerret Жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. But no need to now 😁. Tuchel is the only manager I would want in charge of England. Southgate has taken us as far, as his ability as a manager, as he can go. The man deserves respect for what he has done for England since our infamous exit to Iceland. But he lacks tactical awareness and the guts to make changes. In game management is poor.

@kieran7849 Жыл бұрын

No we stick with a English manager

@blinkin78 Жыл бұрын

@@kieran7849 worked out so well. Hasn’t been a world class English manager in an generation. An English manager has never won the premier league

@RobizGaming2024 Жыл бұрын

The same way fabio's name was.

@TheBlackPrince447 Жыл бұрын

Tuchel or Mourinho over Southgate any day of the week, Southgate Haa done a decent solid job but to progress and get the best out of this squad of talented players in the next few tournaments we need to change and get an elite level coach in.

@2011hwalker Жыл бұрын

yeah Mourinho is known for his attacking football....

@TheBlackPrince447 Жыл бұрын

@@2011hwalker He's known for winning trophies.

@roy9816 Жыл бұрын

Mike Bassett. 44 f!£@ing 2😂

@felipeyanez7786 Жыл бұрын

Southgate must go now

@cityfan5888 Жыл бұрын

With 18 months to go before Euros plus a contract extension. Madness was giving a manager an extension before a WC. He's not going anywhere.

@martinjasper7650 Жыл бұрын

A lot of countries would have sacked their manager after losing 4-1 to Hungary, so Southgate should consider how lucky he was. England were a joke in the Nations League...

@rudo6319 Жыл бұрын

Simon is on point like always

@2011hwalker Жыл бұрын

Armchair pundits point of view. You cant miss penalties and beat the world champions. England did perfectly well against a *better* side. France are better currently, end of story.

@Mark-tb5jk Жыл бұрын

Let’s face it the expectations of the country media etc are huge! Countries like dean mentioned don’t have that pressure. We must find a way to handle the pressure better. A new coach is a must for me. Nothing against Southgate but we need a serial winner ie a nasty so and so👍🏻

@martinjasper7650 Жыл бұрын

The Lionesses sacked Phil Neville, hired a Dutch woman and won the Euros! The best manager you can get, are the one you should go for..

@DragonflyUK1907 Жыл бұрын

Yet Argentina won the world cup with a manager I've never heard off 👍

@Tricky181 Жыл бұрын

Anyone but Southgate

@paulsaias2138 Жыл бұрын

England needs a coach with a killer instinct... that's been missing for years despite all the talented generations of players. What is GS known for? Compare that to Didier Deschamps as a player and coach

@2011hwalker Жыл бұрын

Deschamps has some of the best players on the planet the last 5 years.

@cawaalekulmiye9883 Жыл бұрын

Imagine you have the best lineup and then you play with five defenders

@ljlove8550 Жыл бұрын

If Tuchel’s available and wants the job, it’s a no brainer. A champions league winner vs Southgate who’s won nowt. I don’t care if he’s from Germany, Fiji or Jupiter, if he can get this team to finally win a major tournament which I think he definitely could, then it’s cheers Southgate thanks for your services. Tuchel’s a winner. We’d be mad not to

@seaniekay Жыл бұрын

We have a German royal family why not have German football coach

@josesesade5732 Жыл бұрын

Shout out fiji

@villainofthepiste8275 Жыл бұрын

ANYONE EXCEPT MR DULL- SOUTHGATE!!!! Fed up of hearing all the ex player/pundits- Who have we beaten worth anything??? NOBODY!!!!!

@rhythmicdisciple7045 Жыл бұрын

Ultimately, the players have to want it for the shirt and country in those pressure moments, and elevate themselves to another level. Example, Hal Robson Kanu (vs Belgium 2016 Euros) produced a moment that every Wales fan will remember forever, which was way beyond his perceived ability. This mentality supersedes any "coaching". Dean mentions Morocco and Croatia, those achievements are down to belief, not nit-picking about substitutions. Croatia and Morocco have no squad, they rely on their best players to perform and drive others on. Brazil had an amazing squad, but believed they'd turn up and just win. Gone! Southgate gave them everything to deliver, changed his style, and Kane fluffed his lines the pressure was at it's highest...

@jb894 Жыл бұрын

Who

@rhythmicdisciple7045 Жыл бұрын

@@jb894 Point proven...🫵

@jb894 Жыл бұрын

@@rhythmicdisciple7045 who

@twisteddancer7773 Жыл бұрын

They will probably give it to Lampard or Lineker

@kamranscent Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@mchukdez Жыл бұрын

Lol

@sargestack5657 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if Gareth Southgate gets a knighthood in the New Year

@sg3215 Жыл бұрын

I actually quite like Simon's Brendan Rodgers shout. Tuchel I'd imagine would hold out for a top club side

@nobotshere8364 Жыл бұрын

My only major criticism of Southgate is him not throwing on Rashford at 65min Vs French. That would have given the French more to think about..

@wazzac5974 Жыл бұрын

Agree along with Wilson both would of unsettled the back four with the pace of them

@mikerussell2296 Жыл бұрын

Give bielsa the job.. Everyone will look forward to watching england.. Best man for the job imo.

@GargantuanD Жыл бұрын

Unironically, a great shout 👏

@simonb1996 Жыл бұрын

He needs an assistant with the tactical prowess

@magenm1987 Жыл бұрын

I think we need 1 coach but 2/3 experienced guys as assistant to help him around.

@magenm1987 Жыл бұрын

Sorry but all England missing one point. Southgate tactics are wrong. He gave too much space to France and did not close their threats. England need experienced guys

@Mez12551 Жыл бұрын

Whether it’s and Englishman or not is irrelevant, I believe it’s gotta be someone who has had success as a coach in the premier league, someone who has experience with English players

@2506JJhudson1990 Жыл бұрын

Not to nitpick, but as manager at Middlesbrough he won the 2003/04 league cup. Not a massive success I grant you, but for Middlesbrough that's still a reasonable achievement.

@aidancolclough111 Жыл бұрын

The truth is there are no top managers around who are english hence why an english manager has never won a premier league. We need to be looking elsewhere if we want to achieve tournament success. Tuchel would be the ideal option as his knocout tournament record is outstanding

@jb894 Жыл бұрын

Eddie Howe

@DruMMaSt3R666 Жыл бұрын

Howe, Dyche, Potter. I've been crying out for Howe for the Job since he was at Bournemouth, and now his stock is too high and it's too late

@cawaalekulmiye9883 Жыл бұрын

@@DruMMaSt3R666 Dyche needs a chance

@Roller_Ghoster Жыл бұрын

Southgate was given the England job because no one else wanted it as its a poison chalice. Be interesting to see how'd want it out of the list of names that keep popping up.

@raymondtaylor3833 Жыл бұрын

Let Jordan decide who the next England manager or if he should be sacked. He’s such a fountain of knowledge and always right🙈

@samwes1065 Жыл бұрын

Of all the managers available right now, to sign anyone but Tuchel is complete insanity.

@stretfordender1999 Жыл бұрын

I am glad Simon has a voice. The best on talksport. Safegate out

@marshallcampbell6498 Жыл бұрын

Simon talks a lot of sense

@Klinsmann1985 Жыл бұрын

I think it should be an English manager but if it has to be a foreign coach then it should be someone who has really imbedded themselves in the English game. Tuchel isn't the man, maybe Pochettino, but Mourinho is the one who sticks out for me. Managed three English clubs, his family home was (and maybe still is) in London, and he knows the media inside out.

@tedjovel1876 Жыл бұрын

The FA wouldn’t get Tuchel because they hire yes men.

@Klinsmann1985 Жыл бұрын

@@tedjovel1876 what exactly are the men in question saying yes too? Are you suggesting Gareth Southgate's selection and tactics were dictated by the FA? (Presumably all of England's previous managers too?) I would have thought the FA want to win trophies as much as any fan. It's not like a club where the owner may treat it like a cash cow without being too bothered about winning trophies.

@samwes1065 Жыл бұрын

I’d love to have an English manager but we simply have none available who are capable of taking this England team to success. We’re in a moment where we need to hire not only a proven winner but a man who will inspire the players and make them believe in his philosophy. For that reason it has to be Tuchel from those available right now, Poch hasn’t won’t anything.

@Cheekotime Жыл бұрын

Mate no trying to be rude but your delusional. Poch is one of the most overrated managers I have ever seen which is why him and tottenham got on so well. If we had him like southgate we would never beat a big team. Tuchell may not be a long long term solution with his antics but he would defo give us the best chances in the next available tournament

@michaelwallden7261 Жыл бұрын

it is not about english or foreign coach it is about teamwork around what model we want

@truecockney438 Жыл бұрын

It ain’t racist to want a English man to be in charge of the England football team

@bobbymcculloch2451 Жыл бұрын

Doesn’t matter who’s the manager. Still be pumped in big competitions after they’ve beaten the easy teams. Always build up for a big fall. And disrespectful to other teams.

@markproctor4793 Жыл бұрын

Eddie howe all day long. Probably won't leave Newcastle though 😕

@ReedsOfBabylon Жыл бұрын

he isn't leaving us, if southgate goes i think rogers would be a good appointment

@badabing8884 Жыл бұрын

I counted I have lived through 11 England managers during my time watching them play. I find it hilarious that all the pundits and armchair fans know so much better, when none of the rest of us have been under the pressure , which the 11 England managers have had to work out to get England win a major international tournament. None of those managers so far have, so what makes them and the rest of us such experts? Edit: A Dutchwoman won the Lionesses the Euros, why not hire her for the men's team?

@ribblegaming3331 Жыл бұрын

Failure experts seeing the same thing happen with southgate that happened with the other 10

@christophernolan8523 Жыл бұрын

Women's football isn't even on the same level. No one ever wanted this clown. He wouldn't even get a job in the top 6.

@petermurtagh6294 Жыл бұрын

Because you,d be better off employing the P.E. teacher from a local boys school than the womans winning coach thats about the level womans football is check the usa womans results against schoolboy teams they got thrashed

@paulbaldock4826 Жыл бұрын

Go to bed you nincompoop

@ejp9405 Жыл бұрын

@@christophernolan8523 top 6? Id be surprised if he got a Prem offer

@SmashPhysical Жыл бұрын

Southgate coaches not to lose in big games, instead of coaching to win by being aggressive. He is reactive in his adjustments instead of being proactive and staying one step ahead of the opposition. England has improved under him (which shows how bad things were when he took over), but it doesn't seem like he has the chops to take the next step.

@ASBsweet Жыл бұрын

Who has?

@liamwright2510 Жыл бұрын

@@ASBsweetbetter to fail trying to make an improvement, than settle for stagnation.

@ASBsweet Жыл бұрын

@@liamwright2510 yes but who would come in?

@dstewusa7054 Жыл бұрын

The players gave it all they had. Southgate couldn’t give it, because he never had “it” in the first place

@ghrzsljy Жыл бұрын

Pochettino would be perfect manager for England.

@Adaobieistyping Жыл бұрын

Hasn’t won anything

@sugoshiyer1540 Жыл бұрын

@@Adaobieistyping that's becoz he coached spurs who could not live up with City chelsea and liverpool becoz of their deeper pockets..England has more talent than Spurs ..he will make them dynamic and ruthless....hell , he made Dele Alli play football..

@terryharle627 Жыл бұрын

@@sugoshiyer1540 100% pochettino would turn england into an absolute monster

@terryharle627 Жыл бұрын

@@sugoshiyer1540 100% pochettino would turn england into an absolute monster

@Adaobieistyping Жыл бұрын

@@sugoshiyer1540 why would he choose England over a potential future job with his home country Argentina?

@ianandrew8750 Жыл бұрын

Tuchel...pep....or the speacial one

@Adaobieistyping Жыл бұрын

Why would pep downgrade

@ianandrew8750 Жыл бұрын

@@Adaobieistyping haha

@SilverVSPlatinum Жыл бұрын

The Women's team won the Euros with a Dutch manager with a proven track record that should be enough to negate any argument about English management

@TheDreadnought Жыл бұрын

Enough already! It’s OBVIOUS that Southgate isn’t capable of managing this team to victory. Poch or Tuchel… ASAP!

@tobiasgoldman Жыл бұрын

One of the best rants I've seen from Simon. Absolutely spot on.

@sammybeck4855 Жыл бұрын

Simon and Dean = Top LADS Proper Clobber

@elmondo3543 Жыл бұрын

What a grey feckin hoodie 😂

@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын

The Jordanites Club Association = Top LADS Proper Clobbers

@sammybeck4855 Жыл бұрын

@@lfcspectre4335 LFC Spectre and the Jordanites = Top LADS Proper Clobber

@leok7479 Жыл бұрын

Why the f did sterling come on instead of rashford, grealish? How has Maddison not had a single minute? He’s been the best Englishman in the league this season and I’m an Arsenal fan

@DreamLurker32 Жыл бұрын

too many players from top 6 clubs there is not enough chemistry to win sure they can a beat a team like senegal which is mid size team but that probably not going to be enough to beat a france, a brazil, a spain or a top in form team just take from the top 2 teams in the premier league, the attacking players ( midfields and stikers) should be from one or two teams tops if they are from 5 or 6 teams, how do you expect them to play well together??

@nathangarcia7679 Жыл бұрын

I think that game could have gone for anyone. Both teams deserved to win. Overall Southgate didn’t make any mistakes in the last 3 games. When you lose against a better team for a small margin, why on earth would you blame the manager? Let’s be honest here, England lost that game because of a failed penalty. Because English players tend to be mentally weak in big moments under pressure. Harry lost his composure in a high stakes situation. He couldn’t handle it. Just like other players couldn’t in the past. You need to work on your mentality.

@richardhorrocks1460 Жыл бұрын

If you talk sense around here then you're going to attract the rabid lunatics. It's better to drool from the mouth and proclaim Southgate as the anti-christ.

@peterm7548 Жыл бұрын

No they lost because the defence allowed Giroud to score the second French goal and because the attack didn't score themselves from open play. Too easy to blame Kane, the only England player who actually scored in the game and who had the guts to try for a second pen. It's a bit stupid to let Kane take two pens against his club captain who knows his game so well. Kane skied the ball because he had to improvise against Lloris. He tried to get the ball high in the top right of the net but it went wrong, which can happen to the best, not because he suddenly got the jitters. Why didn't one of the other players step up for the second pen, someone whom Lloris didn't know well? Thats down to Southgate.

@larpos6149 Жыл бұрын

Get Arsene in!

@ktom5262 Жыл бұрын

Too old and he never coached an international side. 👎

@sammybeck4855 Жыл бұрын

@@ktom5262 Most international managers only coach an international side once in their career. You've lost me.

@vikramparmar8093 Жыл бұрын

This is only my opinion but international sports are different. Players (and coaches) who may not be world beaters at club level, often fine this extra level when playing for their country. You see this all time time in international basketball tournaments where bench warmers on NBA teams play at a much higher level when playing for their country. This suggests to me that when performing for our country, you automatically find this little bit extra. Having a non English manager, no matter how much he loves the team can't possibly to be expected to find that little bit extra level that he would find if he was coaching his native nation. A foreign manager is great for nations ranked below 8th because they have more pressing needs on the tactical side, etc. where his skills would be needed imho

@DreamLurker32 Жыл бұрын

I'm not english and from the outside looking in, it seems to me that the main issue is england not having chemistry due to divison between the players who come from the top 6 who each play differently and have different style of football the french have their own way of playing that they go back to when they play for their national team outside from their european clubs seems to me, england can't find out the right style or can't get those top 6 english players to play like a tean, i don't see a team, i see abunch of liverpool, arsenal, man city, united, chelsea, liverpool players when i see the french team, i just see them as french with england it feels different than that.

@nigelsmith3719 Жыл бұрын

Who ever the manager is, he must be English. An English team, an English manager.

@nutyyyy Жыл бұрын

I'm not English but I agree, if you look at world cup and euros winners they almost always have a manager from their country when they win. Plus I think you'd have a hard time finding a competent foreign manager who would even want the job.

@ktom5262 Жыл бұрын

I agree. Top, self-respecting countries like Italy, France, Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina don't permit a foreigner to coach their national side. And rightly so. The exception is... England. Pathetic.

@LucianC137 Жыл бұрын

Sorry, that's retarded.

@ghsense2626 Жыл бұрын

Sabina Weigmann is the best and obvious choice for the job. She plays attractive football with the lionesses. She'll change England into a world power

@danmitchell1955 Жыл бұрын

She has already got a job and in all due respect it different to go on win euro with very good England women team with good sub options . To a squad with more depth male squad was filled with squad that arguably all could have started at different points. Plus with male game also there are more genuine contenders for all tournaments where as usa won most of women world cups and occasionally couple of others the depths of sides that could genuinely win are not as many in women game as the men.

@danmitchell1955 Жыл бұрын

Also I would prefer if they do end up going for female manager one day that they have held and done well both for male side and female side and then I would not have issue Sabina Is good manager but she not answer at moment

@markwatkins8309 Жыл бұрын

We've had/heard optimism for the future for decades now!!!

@birdymfc Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with Simon but not to forget Southgate did win the Carling Cup in 2004 with Middlesbrough

@SeanyGunit Жыл бұрын

Southgate won the League Cup with both Aston Villa (in 1995-96) and Middlesbrough (in 2003-04) and captained Crystal Palace to win the First Division championship in 1993-94.

@farindeeba543 Жыл бұрын

Is that meant to be impressive 😂

@markorton6587 Жыл бұрын

And put raheem Stirling on who had trained for 5 days and arrived back in Qatar thursday I think yeah great substitutes

@SeanyGunit Жыл бұрын

@@farindeeba543 no mate. Just a fact.

@SeanyGunit Жыл бұрын

@@markorton6587 totally agree.

@farindeeba543 Жыл бұрын

@@SeanyGunit what like the fact we lose to every decent team we play?

@michaelcox8820 Жыл бұрын

England remind me of where Chelsea were at the end of the 03/04 season; Ranieri was a much adored coach, but his decision making and inability to win the really big games with talented squad cost him. England are at that crossroads, either stick with the same situation or push on

@dguitar3831 Жыл бұрын

Using that analogy, Southgate is gonna go on and win the world cup with the USA......

@jb894 Жыл бұрын

He won the prem with Leicester

@johnlawler6476 Жыл бұрын

Neil Critchley is the obvious choice. His record at QPR is world class

@JG-sx6vt Жыл бұрын

Didn't think I'd say this, but we need Mourinho. A serial winner, knows the playing style from the PL, has ruthlessness, makes proactive decisions

@easyrouge Жыл бұрын

Not ruthless enough is spot on but it’s something in the English mentality..We’ve had top flight club managers and the patriotic types too and we’ve had teams of great players supposedly but nothing changes..

@badabing8884 Жыл бұрын

England need the SGP to produce a proper system for future England teams to beat the very best teams. Copied France and SGP opened in 2012 so a matter time for it to come to fruition in terms of the coaches and also a way of playing.

@Epsilon04 Жыл бұрын

I don’t understand this clamour to hire a Guardiola or even Tuchel stature manager. Spain have just appointed their U21 coach to replace Enrique, Low was not established when he took over Germany, Deschamps was from within the French setup and not a top club manager. The point is, even the top nations who produce great coaches rarely appoint them as these managers want to be at CL clubs. Most nations just appoint someone from within their setup who has a natural ability to create a healthy environment and good man management skills.

@qarahiyo Жыл бұрын

".....we haven't won anything since 1966... fans that are so committed to the sport in this country given so little to watch" That's a SAD state of affair.

@eliwoods5583 Жыл бұрын

France didn’t make and haven’t made a lot of changes because they don’t have the options. They’re missing Benzema and Nkunku (and Pogba and Kante). Whereas England have a very talented, full squad without injuries. Southgate def should’ve made more progressive changes. Putting on Sterling first made zero sense.

@TheAtkinson118 Жыл бұрын

I'm very surprised that nobody's mentioned we never and couldn't score from open play against France!.. As soon as we went 1-0 down I said to the Mrs ..You watch this now how we start looking for fouls in and around the box!! We never stopped and we got 2 penalties given and still got beat! We are good against the weaker sides to build up the hype..we just can't hold our own against the team's as good or better than us! I agree with Simon though you need management to know when to make the killer decision.. throw the kitchen sink at it at the right time!

@ASBsweet Жыл бұрын

Who?

@TheAtkinson118 Жыл бұрын

@@ASBsweet who..what?..if you want something answering just ask.

@ASBsweet Жыл бұрын

@@TheAtkinson118 sorry i missread you're comment... I was asking who would you have as a replacement? But now looking back I'll jyst crack on and mind my own business

@TheAtkinson118 Жыл бұрын

@@ASBsweet That's ok mate no problem..and no harm done 👍

@ASBsweet Жыл бұрын

@@TheAtkinson118 👍🏻

@jacklane3679 Жыл бұрын

The FA should offer Southgate a promotion to an executive role. It's a way for them to give him a way out of the management role - which he's considering - and place him into a role where he can still do his best work off the pitch. If he does choose to step down, for me the natural replacement at the moment is Gerrard. He's won honours as a manager at club level, albeit with Rangers, he's an icon to the current generation of players coming through, clearly has great leadership qualities and he has lived experience of the modern England environment. I'm personally not against better foreign managers at all either - I would take Klopp or Pep in a dream world - but I do think England is a different kind of pressure and someone that knows it first hand will probably be better prepared to handle it.

@chazzmo1 Жыл бұрын

I think France played us like they believed they were going to win and we were scared of them and lacking in confidence to win the competition. They were right … I think they derived at that position because of the game against the USA… He Southgate showed no confidence in the rest of the squad by playing the same players as the game against Iran . That must have sapped the team confidence. It Also showed the rest of the teams thatSouthgate was lacking in confidence tactical awareness and courage to take the game when it’s needed … Southgate gave France the confidence…

@2011hwalker Жыл бұрын

whatever, we shut down Mbappe and *missed* a penalty. Its fine fine margins. You cant blame Southgate for Kane missing.

@yoshiwoollyworld Жыл бұрын

@@2011hwalker we failed to score outside of penalties

@bhoywonder8892 Жыл бұрын

It's a new cycle of players coming through its a new era it should be a new manager. 3 tournaments is enough time and he has came up short. You would argue there is a regression now as they only made the world cup qf despite being in a final and SF previously. The tournaments before that they had handy runs and they minute they came up against a decent team they came up short . Every tournament. Croatia in 18 was the toughest game they faced. Italy in euros final and France in this world cup . So are they as good as being made out !

@davesingh3772 Жыл бұрын

Going by what we seen in the final I don’t think it would matter who manages England until there is a huge change in we’d belief and right mindset something that has been lacking for generations. You look at the Argentinians and the French for example.

@jaymichealbeckford561 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but the main critic was that how he would be as a manager how ruthless he would be, especially with the substitutions. Do you really think he justifies himself with the substitutions, especially at the times that you put those subs on the same situation happened against Croatia in the semifinals of the World Cup. The same situation happen again, Italy in the final of the European cup now the same thing is happening in the quarter-finals against France and it’s still doing the same thing and you still think that he should still go for the European Championships where when we play a big team again, he would do the same thing we need elite manager that’s what we need right now elite elite elite elite not standard