What old theories do you think would be worth revisiting with new information?

Those don't look like gem armor. l think they were the armor of humans that fought and died in the war,cause l think at some point someone said that humans fought too.

Didn’t Greg mention in the season 1 finale that a lot of humans died in the war? Maybe just in the crossfire or maybe humans actually fought with the crystal gems to defend their home.

I think it is the fallen/killed humans that fought in the gem war

0:36 pearls smile was my reaction on the Steven universe movie

Those armors were probably from the Humans they helped over the eons

What if they were all suits worn by previous lovers Rose had throughout the centuries of war?

*[Pearl, your smile scares me. Please, stop]*

Gems don't really need armour (I mean it would help but they don't *need* it.) I always thought it was the "people" of the war Greg referenced in The Return.

The "fallen" would indicate that the owners of the armor were deceased. The candidates are: 1. Crystal Gems whose gemstones were destroyed during battle with Homeworld loyalists, and their armor preserved as both memorials and as a reserve 2. Human allies of the Crystal Gems who died in action against Homeworld (implied by Greg's words to Steven in The Return, and possibly paralleled by the Watermelon Stevens fighting Malachite) 3. Human warriors of the post-Rebellion era, who'd somehow earned Rose Quartz's admiration Humans wouldn't have had the technology to create plate armor for at least a few thousand years after the end of the Crystal Gem rebellion, and not of this sophistication and variety for a few thousand years more. So, either these were Gem-created before and during the rebellion, or made by humans only in the past millennium. I think much more likely that these are Gem-made, since probably only Rose Quartz would care about collecting human armor, and her items would have been kept either in the pocket dimension or her junkyard. Additionally, Gem armor would have been deemed useful by Pearl, and readily agree with Rose keeping them safe against a possible return of Homeworld, just like the Quartazine Trio of light cannons. While it's possible that these suits were utilized by Gem shards as automatons, I'd have a couple of caveats against this being their exclusive use. One, if the use of Gem shard automatons was proved to be self-defeating, then there's presumably be no need to keep armor suits in Rose's "secret" armory; they'd be tossed into the junkyard or some part of the Crystal Temple as basically useless except for sentimental value. Two, Gems' hard-light bodies can be poofed as easily as human bodies can be fatally damaged, so it makes sense that at least some Gem warriors would wear protection in battle, and consequently the use of Gem armor would not be restricted to automatons.

early also I still can’t stop thinking about that audio leak it kept me up all night same for you let me know

I thought the armor of the fallen was rose friends who were humans we know how rose loved humans but she found out that they had died in the war

I just noticed that the armor with the red hood kinda looks like what Connie wore at Stevens special pink room o.O

I figured they belonged to some human friends of Rose Quartz/Pink Diamond who joined her in some battles that came long after the Gem War.

I don't think gems wore the armor, I think they were worn by humans throughout history of the war that Rose encountered. Maybe past love interests. Why would they be kept secret? They would've probably been in the temple then unless they were fallen human soldiers. Rose would've felt bad/guilty for them falling in war for her and her mission. This was probably her way of paying respects.

I think the Fallen is one of the many elements introduced early on that either where never meant to go anywhere or got out right dropped.

Ayyy Deepcut! Never heard of the Fallen before, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

I saw a cool comic that headcanonned that the armor of the fallen belonged to Rose’s past “Lovers”

It’s amazing how much the show has changed.

Maybe her past lovers? The armors look cross cultural.

That is really cool and interesting. Like the idea ^^

I’m loving the videos

Very intriguing theory! I never considered that they would be posessed by shattered crystal gems, very cool idea!

Wow, this is actually a really good theory! It’s way more interesting than they just being armor the belonged to fallen humans and/or gems

I was ganna go to sleep and this popped up i decided to watch

Also there’s no way this many gems that rose cherished had the same body type since gems come in many shapes, sizes, and most importantly- color.

the crystal gems actually mention they dont find some of the shattered gems, thus the mutants and the cluster. however he makes a fair point as the gems DID NOT use the shattered gem idea because the rest were apparently "buried".both pieces of information was found on the same episode around episode 15 series 2 where steven and garnet go find the barrels containing mutants origanally.

I forgot those existed lmao

*_[who were they? Well, they were obviously Rubies... right?... r-right?]_*

Nah, i think this are just humans armor. After all humans did fight side by side with CG in Gem War, and Pearl have learned "knight" concept from them. And we see knight's armor there

Ok... so a few questions regarding this theory (if ya dont mind) 1. How would one defeat such a warrior? (In cases of them turning on their commanders, for example) 2. How would the shard's tell who their side is (Because Rose would've fought against some of the gems she (as Pink Diamond) created for taking over earth. Maybe she would've used some of their shards for the suits? And who would they be loyal to, Pink or Rose (yes, same person, but could the shards distinguish that?) 3. What happened to the shards? Are they in the temple? What caused them to be "retired"? 4. Pearl said only she knew about Rose's armory (except for lion, obviously). Is this another secret Rose and Pearl kept from the Crystal Gems? Do they not know about the armor and shards? Maybe that's why they're hidden in her armory where only she (and now Steven) could access? Sorry for all of the questions, I'm just generally interested! I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts! ^^

I like this theory.

This is a pretty interesting theory to be honest. I always assume they were the armor of the humans who fought in the war

Feels like the Gem Shards used to possess stiff and the Armor of the Fallen are seperate concepts. The armor seem to be that of humans. Like, no real openings to accommodate for gems either on like 80% of possible gem placements. Edit: though... Bismuth's armor doesn't either. But it could be just because she doesn't need to summon a weapon.

The fallen are a race commonly seen on the planet earth in the games, Destiny, and Destiny 2. The fallen contains different houses, which vary greatly. An example of these Houses are the House of Wolves, House of Judgement, House of Dusk, House of Rain, etc. The ranking system in these Houses go like this, Kell, Captain, Vandal, Shank and Dreg are on the same level.

I was thinking more along the lines of the suits of humans who helped the crystal gems defend Earth this was the armor of the most skilled or honorable human soldiers

I always wondered why Steven didn't get the gem shards and drops them in some diamond essence or something and let them connect to each other and become the gem they once were

Those are human designs c:

You assume that only gems fought in the Gem war. However in one of the episode where Garnet was explaining the gem war to Steven ( I believe it may have been “Serious Steven”) Garnet says that “Countless gems and Humans list their lives”. If I remember what Garnet said correctly, it would mean that humans also fought along slide the crystal gems. In the episode with the “Armor of the Fallen” it would seem that the armor could have been foraged by humans since gems don’t really wear armor. I’ve always assumed that they’re were the armor of the fallen humans who gave there lives to fight for their planet and the Freemason of gems who rebelled against homeworld. It just seemed like a more meaningful reason( something Rebecca Sugar would do) than for the armor to belong to Gems.

What's interesting about this theory is that it shows how the Cluster could have become normalized. First they utilized gem shards as furnishing around homeworld, then as drone soldiers, and finally as gem mutants and the bioweapon Cluster.

notice how each piece of armor looks like its from a certain part of the world, what if the armor belonged to human warriors from around the world, like for example we have a samuri and then one that looks to be a roman crusader.

Before I finish watching the rest of this... Damn it how could you I thought there was a new Steven Universe that I happen to miss out on I thought you were doing a review of the new episode release how dare you sir

Maybe Rose had many human lovers throughout history- explaining the human history and cultural diversity. Maybe she kept the suits to remember them?

Those sets of armor look ages old, and clearly either made by humans of their era, or at least crafted in that style. I don't think they belonged to gems, who are dramatically more diverse in size, body type and general form. Also against the 'they're the armor of shattered gems' theory, we can assume many of the Crystal Gem soldiers were some sort of quartz, who are, to emphasize, usually pretty massive.

This is nice and all but we need a Lapis and Peridot fusion

What if they were the humans that fought alongside gems

I like this theory. Whenever I bring this stuff up, people insist that it’s not canon anymore because the story wasn’t fully formed and I just... That’s so unsatisfying

I believe that the Armor of the Fallen are from Humans that Rose must have had a friendship. Which is why she had a connection with the guy that met her on the desert when he was dying. When he saw her walking with Lions

Interesting theory. I just thought the armor of the fallen belonged to ancient humans that helped the Crystal gems during the gem war that died.

I'm pretty sure those are human's armor, you can reconise the samorai and medival armor, trice even! I really wonder why these are two/three times the same sets, special groups of humans who each did something so great in their time periods that they are remembered here? or could they not find more rl armor sets that are very visually distinctable? or just, whatever? mmmh

I thought Maybe the armor of the fallen was the humans armor that helped in the war cause there’s a part when 1 of the Crystal Gems said that humans fought for there planet too I think it was pearl

I always just thought they belonged to the humans rose had either connections with or romantic relationships with.

It might just be me looking into this a bit too shallowly, but what if the Armor of the fallen are just pieces of Armor that belonged to humans who rose had bonded with?

I vote for waging war against the gem race, and reclaim humanity’s destiny. Victory to the Imperium.

They might be armor worn by lovers of Rose or previous friends of hers after the Gem War

More ideas in the series with no exposition or will never be addressed in Future honestly.

Hiatus is hitting hard...

Who else thinks the future intro is a bit lacking. With what little Peridot in it

My believe is that rose revived humans that died and those went on to help during the war

First! Also nice vid :p

Who else just now realized that the armor of the fallen are basically like 7 or 8 different armors then the rest are duplicates of those 7 or 8?

so we can heal corruption but not shattering?

"On less we Forget."

I’ve actually heard this version

11 hours and there's already 145 comments

*The Kell's Scourge wants to know your location*

Why haven’t we explained about the giant penny in Rose Quartz room?

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The one thing we forgot-

Is it just me or are there two sets of each armor? Not all are placed directly across from each other but I see multiple that match.

Rose would come heal human warriors fallen in battle and take them to her zoo, giving rise to the legend of Valhalla and her being a Valkyrie. She kept their suits

have you heard the audio leak for SU: Future?

Wait, but didn't humans also fight in the war? What if The Fallen are actually humans who helped fight in the war?

One of the armors is mandolorian armor

weird thought, but what if its a mixture of a armor inhabited by shattered gems and armor used by humans that fought alongside the crystal gem's What if the shattered remains of the gem are used as a power source that allowed the human to fight with the same amount f power a gem would be able to wield during the war. what makes me believe this is the fact that gems are capable of being used to operate machinery as a sort of power source and the humans aren't anywhere capable of harming a gem as seen when Ronaldo attacked pearl. maybe we will see what they are before steven universe ends

Maybe the bubbles gem shards from season one the pearl was checking up on were the shards the brought the suits to life

the fallen were...the fallen

As you can see on 1:06 far left is clearly samurai era armor the 2 in the middel are clearly knight armor (possible european) and the far right i have no idea But waht we can all agree on is that humans did take part in the war But why roze has these types of armor stored here i have a few theories 1: these armor's were worn by high ranking warriors during the battle 2: these armor's belong to the humans who did something big during battles ore something else and died for it for example (leading armys, ore they were top notch fighters, teaching rebel gems strategies, sword handeling, etc.) 3: these were the only humans joining roze rebellion for the sake of earth. 4: these armor's were provided to bismuth to construct prototypes but i highly doubt this theory Anyway i like the 2nd theory

Pearl said she was fine with the men who would come into her life now and again. What if those suits belonged to them?

I think it was rose collecting the armor of dead humans over the years

Slave Knight Gael in the thumbnail

The ballin

I thought they might have been the armour of human allies

It's a nice theory but the armor looks like armor from years later . Not from the year that they said the war tack please.

How they fallen

0:36 *pearl is exited to take Steven* Me: really? U sure?

Who made the diamonds

hiatus bois

Maybe they were the Armor of all of roses human conquests 😏😏

episode 6 was cat fingers

spooky

Or the gems had human alliances that died long ago

Woahhh-

Ah no they're just dead humans. Rose hid the bodies

Organic gems?

The armour of the fallen is armour colected threw history

gem shard = zombie

I think that the fallen were humans tbh

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