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Well, there you go! Two models demonstrated on what not to buy.

Plastic skid shoes, plastic scraper bar,plastic transmission..... That's all you need to know right there.

Those would be perfect for the snowfall in Florida.

I fixed up a 40 year old snow blower with a 8hp Tecumseh motor and a 30" scoop and it would run rings round that plastic junk. I never have to stop, it just ploughs straight through. I paid $50 for it and spent $120 to get it up to scratch. It is built like a tank, all metal construction. Now I''m glad I put in the effort to do it!

Anyone else watching this just because it’s Taryl, not because you’re in the market for a snow thrower?

Toro doesn’t clog because all it does is stall out. And when it does run it still backs up.

Great review. But this is why I stick to my 30 plus year old 5 HP Craftsman. Back when they build them to last.

The entertaining part was these two just total random snow discharging all over the car and street. LOL

I wold not take ethr one if they gave them to me

Thumbs up anybody who remembers Ariens and Toro in the 70's into the eighties and gets really sad when they see this.

Looked like the Ariens won that contest to me.

Take care of your old machines you sure don’t want to end up with either one of these 😂

That Toro required more coaxing than a kid who refuses to eat his vegetables.

I wouldn't waste my money on ether one. Pure junk

I’ve got an Ariens 824 with a Tecumseh Snow King and I love it. I wouldn’t even consider a snow thrower without a wheel drive and 2 stages, too much work!

I was glad that you didn't show favoritism for the one that was given for free.

Moral of the video, don't buy a snowblower made in the last 25 years. They are all pretty sorry. There's your dinner!

I have four Ariens and one Toro, the Toro never gets used. Ariens = The King of Snow!!!

I have both 2 stage and single , and that heavy wet stuff calls for the 10 hp 2 stage. Great work out guys.

Taryl, I have the Ariens: lift the handle by walking into it, rather than simply pushing the machine. . That makes the 'auger propelled' part work. Thanks.

In my opinion the Ariens out performed the Toro. Ide like to see another match up in 4 to 6 inches of snow instead of a foot plus. For $150 more, i expected to see better performance from the Toro..

The Ariens comes with a shovel because it is a 2 stage blower. They use shear pins to protect the little gearbox that connects the two stages in case you pick up a rock and jam one of the stages.

Next week we compare a free ford Mustang to a Kia we had to pay for

My experiance with snowblowers is; they struggle with the wet- heavy snow and tend to clog. Once I make one clear pass, I take 1/2 pass to make it easier on the machine. I use a riding snowblower as I have a bad back. I know walk behind snowblowers take a lot of upper body strength. I used to use them. I used two different ones back in the day.

Unbelievable !!! these very, very low-end snowblowers should be called snowjunk. Thank you both for protecting us from these purchases

My advice is to buy a snowblower that will do every possible storm you might get. Having one that will fail when you need it most the worst decision you can make.

Wow, I’ve never seen a self propelled single stage and a manual push duel stage.

I'm just dying to see what's in that new Toro transmission. Hey I'll give it the benefit of the doubt, but I still want to see what's inside of it. Tear it down, turn it down, tear it down !!!

I like the idea of a narrow 20 inch snowblower. What we need is a narrow 20 inch wide, 24 inch tall super powerful one with the horse power and drive of a 30 incher for the soul purpose of making the initial cut through that heavy overnight snow we tend to wake up to. When they are wide it's like hitting a brick wall. A powerful narrow one like I mentioned would cut through like a knife.

That looks like heavy packed snow that must have been sitting for a while! A real workout! I don’t feel so bad about my small Toro 18” single stage. I am thinking that a snowblower of that size should be self propelled.

older units worked much better than these new ones , i had a old viking single stage with a 5hp briggs that would move more snow than most 90's 2 stage units . fantastic vid . thanks

After watching this I promptly invested in the NK16 (16 y.o. neighborhood kid), to hand shovel my driveway...

Thanks Daryl, this is very enlightening....and a little sad! Neither machine will be on my list. Thanks for doing this!

Being retired, I wait until the storm is over so I only have to clear it once! Watching this demonstration, makes me glad I have a Simplicity!! Ny previous Snow blower was an Ariens 8 hp that I bought over 30 yrs ago. It was called a power handle. Snow blower in the winter, Mower in the summer and vacuum in the Fall!!!

The Ariens Crossover is a modern revamp of the old 2+2 and 5+2 models from back in the day. The Snowmaster is a single stage design in a 2 stage frame and the Crossover is a 2 stage design in a single stage size housing because there are rubber paddles attached to the augers.

i have a feeling thats the last free item you get from toro, but its their own fault

I have a Ariens 28 deluxe that would run circles around both those machines, that said I had a 1970 simplicity 8 hp that would have shredded them all

One thing nobody mentions much critiquing snow blowers is those plastic chutes. I got a Craftsman years ago. It is all metal except from the rotating ring to the deflector on the chute it's plastic. I wouldn't have bought it for that reason but figured they can make plastic and strength they want these days. Day one, right out of the shed, it threw a chunk of ice. That split the deflector as it left the chute. I melted holes with a hot nail and propane torch then stitched it with zip ties. I was able to use it. As I plowed the end of the drive there was a rock size of an egg in the snow bank the plow made. When it threw that, it split the chute itself. I fixed it the same way to finish the job. Sears sent me another chute. I used tin snips and made a ring out of heating duct metal riveting and using JB weld to reinforce the lower edge of the new chute with a ring of metal. I sanded it all down. Covered the whole thing in layers of fiberglass mat and epoxy. I had lots kicking around from fixing a boat. Then I painted the chute and deflector to protect the epoxy from UV. Sears said plastic is fine since it isn't designed to throw rocks. I live on a dirt road but the drive is paved. It won't break now. I like a discharge system that is all metal so it doesn't crack.

The best part of this is the surprise guest appearance by Slippers! That Ariens reminds me of the wheeled trimmer I had. I don't like those wheels, and the engine on mine had to go back to the shop to make it run right. Personally for snow I would go with inflatable tires.

Nope Nope Nope !!! Taryl Please Keep your Snow up there we don't want any down in SC. Still watch just because it's Taryl !! Good one Guys Thanks

Widowmakers both of them! LOL

From here in MN, I'd say those both would be perfect Florida snow blowers.

Ive got a wife and a shovel for that here in the uk.🤣😎👍

I have had the exact same toro for 4 years. The personal pace drive system takes some getting used to but I haven't had any problems with mine. Seems to do a good job for me. I have even plowed thru the snowplow bank at the end of the driveway. Just have to take smaller bites on deep snow.

I have the Toro 824qxe version of this snowblower and have no problems even at the end of the driveway. Heavy wet snow might slow you down a little but not as much as this shows.

I watched this just cause of Taryl. I’m not in the market for a snowblower. If I was gonna buy one I’d probably want the one that didn’t need to be restarted a few times even though it had more features. I don’t know how easy it is to set the rpm’s higher cause I don’t know a lot about snowblowers to begin with. It’s why I watch all these video.

Sorry, but the ariens has a LCT brand engine. They are also used on modern husqvarna and poulan blowers made by husqvarna. Strangely, Both ariens and husqvarna(poulan) brand them as their own engines, but they are just more Chinese engines.

the machines in the 70s and 80s were the best

I'm glad I don't have to depend on those types of units. Thanks for sharing, Taryl

Just goes to show you that dual stage is not always better than single stage. What's more important is having a drive assist.. when you have to push something on your own you are basically doing a workout.. backing up plowing into it.. I'VE SEEN SO MANY VIDEOS OF THE TORO SNOWMASTER 724 AND 824 AND IT DOES JUST AS GOOD AS THE TORO POWERMAX 824 AND 826.. It's a hell of a lot lighter you don't need a reverse. So much easier to push around.. I've seen the snowmaster go through 21 in of snow down by the driveway on KZfaq with no problem.. Pretty amazing Toro is always so innovative trying to find new ways to save us money to do the same job.. Absolutely brilliant.. If you don't believe me go type in SNOWMASTER 824 IN A BLIZZARD. YOU WILL BE SHOCKED. And Toro claims that it's 40% faster than the two stage version is pretty much true. I don't know how reliable though self-paced thing but it works fantastic saves tons of time I guess there's not much clogging with a single stage when you have a big opening and nothing in its way to go out the shoot.

I have a 40 YO Toro 724. The self propelled and extra 2 hp really makes it perfect for the snow you are clearing. Those both seem like it would be a killer for a 60+ old man. My son now has it and the ignition died last winter...so he is upgrading it to electronic ignition. If we were to get a new one we would buy the 828 Toro as I would love the quick stick. We moved to sunny FL, no snow here!

I always wanted a snow blower, but those don't seem to be any better than a shovel.

Honda, baby. Buy once, cry once. We love you, Taryl. Gotta be something for u to fix!

The Toro is known to need a light touch when just getting moving. Once the operator gets the hang of it, it works very well. That's why Taryl was doing 'wheelies' for awhile there.

It looks like both operators are accustomed to using power-driven 2-stage units. I'd bet a Honda HS621, which would be in the same league, would carve through that snow with FAR less human effort. The first pass would still be a slow process. After that, just adjust your overlap to bite off as much as the machine is comfortable with. Let the machine do nearly all the work!

Can't see myself buying either one of those toys.

Great vid! Both machines looked a little overmatched for those conditions. Probably a fairly rare occasion for Hoosier land.

Never sieze on axles will help. The freezing cold and plastic transmission will require wheel removal. We just love your videos.

I'm enjoying my Ariens 824 without even using it watching you guys work these small machines.

Wow! Those machines are junk.

Yo yo from the UK 🇬🇧 a head to head video.. cool man.. This is a proper dinner serving

I have a 56 year old Ariens, 8HP and not a single safety feature. Once engaged it will not stop till it runs into something. It is a beast in both weight as well as what it will throw. Chains on pneumatic tires, 4 forward & 1 reverse. A diff setting on one of the wheels (I leave it locked). Impossibly heavy. Purchased by my Grandfather, then my Dad, and now to me. I plan to give it to my Grandson in about a dozen years.

I love the video's Tayrl! Thanks for all your hard work and helping us out!! Thank$ for Dinner!!

The toro stalls out , too wide for the engine power

I bet that Toro Engine is made by the same company that makes the predator engine. Looks pretty similar.

Nice practical comparison, under the worst of conditions! Tough decision between the two. The Toro does have some really nice features, minus the plastic trans, but it's longevity concerns me. I have to say though, my Toro CCR 3650 with a plastic carb lasted 16 years before I swapped it out. Overall, Ariens just seems more durable and has a smaller footprint for a crowded garage.

41 year old Ariens 504 5 HP Two Stage you could not trade me for either of those blowers.

That’s not toros engine it’s a Chinese loncin engine...

Snow that deep, you can't be taking big bites. Take 2/3 bite or even 1/2 to get better performance and a cleaner path. Yes it might take lil longer but it will do a better job when the motor isn't bogged down with wet snow.

Neither of these machines would survive Canada. We have sidewalk clearing blowers, and driveway clearing blowers. These are sidewalk cleaners, and even then, I think I'd be tossing them in the scrap recycling pile. My 14HP Husqvarna with floating chute is all I need to get the job done. And BTW, it comes with a shovel which I've never needed in 6 years.

This is a great time to test these machines in NW Indiana, because we haven't had this much snow, and temps this low for so long a time in many years.

Aren’t all these self-branded engines Honda clones from China?

In wet heavy snow I pick the lowest gear and drive right thru it,,no matter how wet. Might have to stop a second to let the blower catch up ,,if allot of snow. But I have never used a snowblower like you guys were. I dont understand what the back and forth chit was??? Dont they have a drive???? I repair these things ,,so I have used almost every snowblower ever made. Never see anyone use a snowblower like you two??? lol

Ty as the others commented it’s a video on what not to buy. You saved me a non expensive headache

Awesome vlog very valuable to anyone watching that wants to buy a snowblower. Things I have noticed is it’s good to spend a little more on something then to buy the cheapest one. While yes they all break the same but I always believed that you’re chances are better with something that is built a little betters.

Good video taryl, I would have to go with the Ariens, cheaper as well as does a better job to me.

The Ariens was my pick. The Toro has too much gimmick junk on it and too much plastic

Thank you guys,I like my big two stage.good job.

Great descriptions and good test on both. My personal opinion, neither one is worth a crap compared to my 30 year old Honda HS-55 and my 1970s 2 stage 7 hp Ariens in the same kind of snow.

I'll take the Ariens for simplicity, longevity, reliability, and cost of service.

I'm sticking with my tread propelled Honda. It beats these two any day.

The toro was a 24 inch scoop vs ariens 2 stage plus 20 inch scoop it’s not taking in as much snow ⛄️but I am impressed those smaller snowblower actually did good for that amount of heavy wet snow.

Terrell says some funny stuff “ we better finish this driveway I hope we don’t have heart attacks”

dislike the plastic transmission. can tell you from experience they DO NOT hold up!!!

not getting that toro, not with that trans...

Right. I live in western Canada. These would be OK if you just had a side walk. I would need a snowblower with more muscle for the snow up here.

I got a 1974 Areins with powered drive it kicks ass! For Free! I repowered it with a greyhound 6.5 engines from HFT... Now the engine are predators...when the greyhound blows I'll up it to a 13hp predator! Been running the greyhound for years don't know if it will ever blow! Damn you! China!

I like sitting on my John Deere tractor it’s 40 hp and it has a 59 inch blower on it and I love it

They both may do a less tiring job in under 3" of snow.

THANK YOU for a practical test! My 20 year old Ariens continues to run well and when I need repair advice I just watch the guy with the funny teeth. Just fixed the Tecumes carburtrator with a simple modification of the low speed jet as you advised in an old video>>>> Thank You for that as well.

Wisconsin Blizzard of ‘79, we sold every Ariens 8/24 (18” wheels) we could get our hands on. But the big Toro’s had their fans too. The hot Toro 4/21 or 5/21. Both nice machines. Of course grandpa just couldn’t let go of his Snowbird. I hated fixing those broken chute control cables!

Great review guys. Both of these are sort of hybrids and both have good and bad qualities. With the Toro I'd just get the 821 single stage myself, but for someone who's elderly or in not that great of physical shape this one might do the trick. I think you'd be smart to snow blow twice rather than let it get this deep when using either of these machines. With the Ariens if you have any kind of incline I think you'd be working yourself to death.

I see junior was not out helping you guys.. bet he was at home with his feet up.. the lazy so and so lol

I got an old Toro 5 hp 2 stage that I did the impeller upgrade with a cut up old Harley Tire. I used Stainless Steel Bolts, Nuts and Lockwashers on the three blades, and I will say it is one of the best blowers I have ever used. With the upgrade it doesn't clog even in slush on shoulder of well traveled highway at end of my drive. It's getting old though, so little by little It's getting a bit on the rough side.

I went Ariens. 30" 6f 1r speed, two stage, zero turn, one crank Shute turn- right in front of dash, with chute tilt up down lever on the dash. Electric start 110v, 20hp I think. It's been in the garage for two years unused brand new. Never started. Still waiting for big snow. Detroit downriver. I'll sell it or trade for newer one year old or less, zero turn mid size Toro, John deer or Ariens riding mower. That's what I really needed. Jpol.

I've owned one constant throttle engine in the past........ never again!!!!!!!!!

Ariens 1130DLE all day!

Back in 1979 we got a big new Ariens with 12HP and chains on the tires. Only problem is the shear pins would break on the auger in heavy snow.

That was a great video, I love the head to head comparison.