Congrats again on FINALLY getting this beast of a video out, dudes! Pleasure working with y'all on this! And thanks for having me! 🤘

Can't say I agree with the Super Sonic logic (specifically him being less versatile than base Sonic), but aside from that it was still fun to watch the fight

Fight was oddly a lot more small scale than the previous. Makes sense in terms of Sonic's ideal win scenario, but feels odd when accounting for the crazy stats and feats being shown off. Still, good fight and I appreciate the characterisation, Sonic goofing around a bit but still knowing when to fight seriously, and Fox having this quiet determination to do what he believes is right.

26:29 As a Silver fan, I think watching Silver snatch and throw an Arwing clean out of the sky with his psychokinesis like that was the highlight of my day lol

And so the most infamous episode's rematch finally comes out. You guys did an absolutely phenomenal job on this one. Basically everything I could say has already been said by other comments here. Wonderful job!

It's nice to see that Sonic and Fox are use the environments to their advantage.

I’m excited for everyone to see this! The team put their entire heart and soul into this fight, and I really hope everyone sees that come through, whatever their hoped outcomes are! ~ Gordon Ramsey

Had a ton of fun working on this with you guys! GGs!

Now honestly this was amazing! The animation was a massive upgrade and the voice acting was great and I’m glad that the explanation was much better than the first one.

This is honestly one of the best sprite animations I've seen in a while. Shame I missed the premiere.

You guys really did your homework on this one. Feels like I got a full crash course in the character's history good job. And the fight was super awesome as well great animation I love how it turned into a team fight at some point as well. And I really liked how you didn't go for him using his super form which is in every animation and went for the lesser used Caliburn Golden knight form. was A nice change up. Great job guys as per usual

That animation was absolutely phenomenal!! Definitely the best animation you guys made so far!

Sooooooo good!!! This episode was amazing. I can tell the team poured their entire heart and soul into this, and I think it turned out fantastically. My new favorite sprite episode of the show, amazing job everyone!!!!

A great animation and a really interesting analysis. It's cool to see how much this team has grown in such a short amount of time.

Incredible episode, but by this episode's own logic, I don't think you can make a case for the Arwing ever beating Super Sonic. We know from the Solaris fight that in the rare occasion that a super state is damaged, they lose rings just like the characters would normally. Based on the # of rings the episode gives Sonic (999,999,999) and the minimum amount he loses every time his durability is exceeded(10), when compared Fox's strongest attack(2.48 x 10^21 joules) and Super Sonic's durability(32.5 x 10^18 joules), a max speed rolling attack would only make Super Sonic drop 736 of his 100,000,000 rings.

This was a great episode to watch. I still have a few issues with the research, like how Sonic's Detonate and Fox's Fire Bird were treated as instakills, the argument that the Super form limits Sonic's potential and arsenal, as well as some of the stats given for both, but research in versus is subjective. Either way, it was a fun battle and you even brought in what some of their behaviors would be into the fight. Keep on doing great things.

My main issue with this is that the emeralds broke, nothing says they can, and nothing says they can”t break, they emeralds also have different attributes then the master emerald,so there wouldn’t be any way for them to break, Super sonic would also resist elemental attacks and many of the R-wings abilities. Super sonic again has also fought beings of much higher magnitudes such as the Egg wizard which had power to effect multiple dimensions, to the point Eggman and Eggman Nega stated it could rewrite multiple dimensions, including Maginary world,which is in the 4th dimension. The Egg salamander was directly stated to be above the chaos emerald and sol emeralds combined, and each have been stated to have/carry infinite power. The only reason super sonic and burning blaze won that fight was “teamwork/friendship” which is a thing that is shown to give a power boost, as seen in forces with double and triple boost as well as sonic heros. Other than that, the fight and animation was amazing, you guys did a great job, and I’m really excited for what’s next.

This animation was a blast to see, I did expect the ending but man what a ride, the info of both was on point and leaves screwattack in shame, the personalities were on point and overall is a fantastic versus battle

26:58 This pose remiends me of the panel of Archie Sonic when he gets angry when Eggman said “Your at your limit” and I love it.

Having seen the end credits, I now know why you asked us "who other than Joker would make a great Phantom Thief?" in that community poll! Glad to see the scope of your research, and that both fighters were given due respect in this competition! Epic animation, great choreography, solid dialogue (though the voice acting left a bit to be desired at some points), this was an amazing episode overall.

Beautiful analysis, animation and rundown. These retouches of sonic and fox make me even more excited for when megaman vs mario happens again, need see the mushroom muncher show off more then did in the original, win or lose im so looking forward to it.

I like how for these remakes you take a very different approach to the loss than a lot would think like for Link vs Ridley instead of going Great Deity he uses a creative combo of his equipment to make Ridley vulnerable and for this one instead of Sonic going Super or Hyper and blitzing Fox instead it goes for his Excalibur form and takes Fox out then really good stuff and I can’t wait to see the other remakes coming out soon

Can tell this was a real passion project, great job!

I have to say I admire how you guys avoid characters taking the win through just raw power in both here and in Link vs Ridley. Most animations here on KZfaq escalate using powerups in a sort of DBZ style while your animations focus more on versatilty and how the characters' personalities and general approach to battle would effect their strategies.

While I enjoyed the fight and love that Sonic was finally able to snatch the win here (saving me from my anxiety), I feel confused on a lot of the takes they made here, and how they got to them. Stuff like, what's with the durability negation feats, the reason Super Sonic can't use other abilities, and the like?

Damn this animation was perfect to every single detail. Total W for the animators as usual!

Analysis was great! I loved how you guys included tons of their arsenals! The fight also has to be one of my favorite Sonic sprite fights, since he uses lots of his arsenal! Super unique fight and amazing analysis and breakdowns!

I really love that Spiderverse intro for Sonic it was really creative/way past cool!🔥

This was an awesome battle and I really like the animation even the voice acting as well

Yeesh this was well done. Not sure I agree with your opinion on super sonic but aside from that. Plot, characterization, and choreography was on point!

Jeez, didn't expect the ending to be that brutal. I'm happy for my boy Sonic, and Fox did really well too! The analysis was probably one of my favorites you've ever done and the animation was really sick. Amazing rigging, voice acting, track, and overall everything. I loved the tag-team feel this one had, just overall a really epic fight. I can tell you and your team put a ton of effort into this, and I hope you are all happy with how this turned out. I know I am! Overall I'd give this episode a 9/10 for now, nothing I found as outstanding as some of my other favorites, but nothing really major that drags it down. With all that said and done...............I CAN"T TELL YOU HOW HYPED I AM FOR RED VS NESS!!!!!! Trainer is my smash main and while I am 70% sure he will get obliterated, Wario vs Lucas gives me a little hope that Ness isn't as OP as some make him out to be lmao. I'm sure it will be one of if not my new favorite episode, due to sheer bias of course. So excited for Red vs Sans, and its just so awesome to see how far this series has some Ink.

Amazing episode. While I still love the og episode, this one is an improvement on every thing. Especially learning even more about foxes history. Over all a 9.5/10. Everyone involved in smash bracket is super talented and committed.

Wow, this honestly was definitely/very interesting to say the least. At the end of Fox's analysis, I felt pretty bad for him at first, But after he made up with Crystal and his friends and saved the universe, I felt happy for him then. Also this animation was definitely, in Sonic's own words, "Way past cool!", And it definitely had me on the ropes, that and the Post-Analysis did. Even though it may or may not have been a simulation, It wasn't just a fight, it was a war, Which was another thing that made it great. Overall, this rematch was definitely worth it And I did love it all. And it did make me realize that Sonic and Fox are actually a bit similar in at least a few ways as well. So, again, worth the wait, loved it. Great job, well done. Thank you, Smash Bracket, very cool.

like how this animation took a break from the traditionally hardcore anime-esc fighting that is in the sprite community today in turn for something that seemingly mimics the more 'western Saturday morning cartoon' feeling. It's fight scenes, timing, and even classic-esc rock theme that plays. It's all pretty good! Hope to see more.

I loved every single part of this video. It was fascinating to learn the backstory of fox and sonic, and the animating is fantastic! Bravo!

Congrats, bro! I love this videos about Sonic the Hedgehog and Star Fox McCloud. 😊

One thing I wish I would have mentioned before if I haven't already is the brilliant use of the starlink technology within the fight. How fox in this combat scenario was using them so fluently and strategically was extremely pawsome!!!! I'm actually glad you guys implemented that into the fight because it was so fun to watch and knowing Fox and his tactical leadership would know how to use them rather fluently and certain combat scenarios even if he was panicked he would do what he could with what he had. I know I'm commenting a lot on this fight and I hope it ain't too much but I once again got to say, congratulations on this epic animation🎉 Always excited to see future Star Fox and even Zelda related fights. though I am curious about one thing, out of all of the Star Fox games which one is your particular fav and why?

Awesome video!

Oh well don't worry I like both the fist one and now the second one, you and your crew are amazing for keeping up all of the animations, fights, and research

That was amazing! I loved every minute of it. Sure I think some things could've been done differently, but goddamn I am not complaining over minor nitpicks, this has heart and soul in it. Amazing job to everyone in the team, and boy, am I excited for the next one.

I like how this series went from not having any lore to having a lot of lore

Probably the best episode you guys have made, absolutely loved it and from what I see when Sonic returns he will be fighting Joker which I am absolutely ecstatic I literally can’t wait for it

Great video keep up the good work

32:27 wtf, the only 2 beings that could even hurt super sonic were Dark Gaia and Solaris. Their raw power is stronger than what the arwing could ever do to super sonic.

So the characters are aware they're in a bracket, but their personalities will still affect to what lengths they'll go to get the win (ie Sonic preferring nonlethal methods or to tease his opponent even when he could probably blitz most of the cast before they can move). Hoping villains will get a bit of an edge here because of their willingness to win at any cost and finally have their time to shine, even though they canonically lose to their heroes. With all the story stuff happening in the background it's less clear that this is a tournament that the characters are aware they're in, but it does make for a cinematic experience. Very interesting analysis too, great work!

I thank the great KZfaq recommendations for blessing me with the most entertaining animations I’ve seen in years.

came back to watch the animation again, and even the second time around it is an epic party of pure speed and action😊

That Spiderverse reference was god tier and the episode in general was just beautiful great job to everyone on the team

I don’t remember the emeralds being that fragile to attacks.. But really cool fight and breakdown. I could see there was a lot of heart put into this. Well done

I will say, the animation was great. I enjoyed the voice acting from both Fox and Sonic as well as the use of abilities from different games. I am much more pleased with this accurate outcome but regardless, well down! 👏

This fight did something so interesting 🙌🏾.. Using Sonics other forms in the fight makes sense

The scene going from Krystal with the sexy saxophone at 20:26 to Andross' undulating face is probably one of the most unintentionally funny things I've ever seen.

Good video, but your argument on Super Sonic being less effective than base Sonic is something I highly disagree on. I think Sonic Frontiers already tells us that Super Sonic can in fact do everything Base Sonic can do, but better

I can’t wait to watch!

This is one of my second favorite Sprite battle channels aside from Death battle

This was actually a great fight

“Close matchup” my ass mate

Two of my favorite franchises in one video I needed this

The Fight was amazing and so well done.

Did they really use RINGS, a literal game mechanic for research?

I should probably mention. In Sonic Colors DS, which is canon in terms of information, Sonic says that the speed of light is EASY for him.

This was so awesome

Nice using Excalibur there that was great! Can't wait for ness vs Pokémon trainer!

Nobody: Super sonic literally taking down gods, titans, multiverse destroying entities, time eaters, and more: 🍷 🗿 Nobody again: Base sonic outrunning a black hole, beating a chaos god, falling from space without even a scratch, destroying giant robots and more: 🍷 🗿

Great video. Minor nitpick here, but it wasn't mentioned that Super Sonic has taken hits from The End, who claims to be capable of destroying stars (and we also see it destroying a planet)

The fight was awesome but goodness the fight music is just so amazing

the fact you used excalibur as the final shot is perfect

Gotta say, was not expecting a Black Knight reference to be the deciding factor

Cool!

Hot diggity dang this is incredible! Great job to everybody involved! You gave it your all!

OMG ink that was such a másterpiece i dont know how you Will top this but man this IS ah easy 10/10 for me, one of muy favourite episodes in Any vs show

I don't understand, are you saying Super Sonic can't use his base abilities in his super form? Because he can and in fact those abilities are heightened.

This was easily the best episode of the show, disappointed my 4th main lost? Of course. Do I discount this absolute beast of a video? Hell no! It's amazing!

Bro that was epic

Super Smash Flash 2 was such a good flash game as a kid.

26:01 I appreciate allot of sonic va's officel or fan made. but it's the one's that can capture both his positivity and ANGER through emotion like this is what reminds me why i like the character and shows that he's not just the nice calm cool guy, he's short tempered and has an attitude. but most media doesn't depict that side of him anymore, especially the times where he does get mad but shrugs off his frustration and acts like nothing happened. Relying on his positive and smug side instead of just balancing them both out.

Good on Fox for not letting his opponent transform before attacking.

This episode was amazing

You did far better at doing research then Death Battle, I'm impressed.

I freakin love how you take the characters personality's and strategies into account while researching. i'm used to those parts being ignored and everyone focusing on their raw powers and diffs in a fight or yada yada yada. Fox shooting the emeralds was just an amazing understanding of the character and shows you truly go above and beyond with the research, i never even thought of that happening cause of every other analysis with Fox in it. Amazing job, keep it up!

This is like the most in depth fight analysis I ever heard. But it’s a good thing. Some fights just aren’t as straight forward and lots of different scenarios need to be addressed. Another thing going In sonic’s favor is the fact that he can easily reflect projectiles both in base form and super form since fox obviously uses a lot of projectiles. I know reflecting projectiles was brought up for sonic but I don’t think it was brought up as a major benefit against fox’s common arsenal

This is so cool

26:02. That expression and slamming his fist on the ferrris wheel really felt like something I would do if I was frustrated lol! 🤣🤣🤣

I love how this video gives more recognition of Shadow's jet boots & that he can literally fly then SEGA

Honestly, I'm glad Sonic won. Sure, I was worried for a bit when I heard Fox's analysis, but I Sonic would prevail. Though, while I didn't expect things like other forms besides super and hyper, the mass amount of power ups and abilities, the emeralds getting destroyed, and the friends joining for both sides this is still amazing. Honesty, I'm glad the other forms got some recognition. Though to be real I don't expect Sonic to win or get that far past 3rd, 4th, or 5th round, tbh though if he does, that'll be amazing. Keep up the good work. I can't wait for the next fight.

CONGRATULATIONS first off! You knew I was going to make a comment sooner or later LOL! well I got to say that the animation, the voice acting, and all-around action is a solid a+ without a doubt. the comedy found in it as well and lines such as fox saying,can't let you do that hedgehog, and of course Krystal the telepath taking a shot at silver the psychic hedgehog was all flipping terrific as well as falco getting involved in taking on knuckles. Let's not forget the fact that slippy was in a dogfight with tails in that was just fun for me. even though I'm not completely a composite info guy I will have to say that this was extraordinary really well done and it must have taken you guys forever to do. the time and effort and even research to come to your conclusions for the rules of smash bracket I want again give a really good grade on that a solid epic. I'd love to do my own research in the future cuz I think there's still some things to explorer about the Star Fox series or at least and certain versions of it but none-the-less who knows I may actually be asking you for some of those documents in the future that used to come up with the timescale for our wing speed from Starfox 2 if that's okay. The ending was a course wholesome and funny too. The rolling attack in Star Fox command I can actually explain fairly easily, you know how when they do a barrel roll it creates a magnetic force field to deflect oncoming laser fire? Well the reason they did that within the ship's Independence day style is because it goes into the weak point of the ship and the magnetic forces tear the ship apart so they could defeat it rather easily instead of having to knock away at its armor on the outside. also thank you very much, letting my comment be one of the three who came up with a prediction for the fights conclusion, very fun to see and it made me smile and that alone I have to say thank you for. well I suppose I've ranted on long enough, if you're reading this thank you very much and thank you for just being awesome and definitely respecting in many ways a series I love so much. God bless, stay frosty, and remember to trust your instincts. *barrel roll while playing Fox's theme song on a electric space guitar harp* 🦊 You guys are awesome and keep on rocking on smash bracket!!!!🎉 Love it

Never did I think the spiderverse intro would fit so well with sonic.

I was thinking, Sonic can blitz Fox before he could even get in his Arwing. And that';s true. Right?

Spoilers for da fight Cool fight, glad to see Sonic take the dub. A few questions tho: - Why is 'one-shot' or 'one hit kill' weapons/abilities taken at face value when 'invincible' or 'invulnerable' abilities are only taken at their max durability? If the rationale is that nothing is invincible and that everything in the verse that has stood up to a specific ability is simply less than said ability's durability, couldn't the same be said for 'one-shot' skills? Operating under the same logic, 'one shot' skills should only be as strong as the most durable thing it's defeated, and shouldn't be considered hax. The only move Fox would have that could beat Super Sonic in that scenario is the spinning thing, which you mention he has to travel in a straight line across the Solar System to accomplish. - Even if Fox decided to try to destroy the emeralds (which contextually is a little meta considering that he shouldn't even know if the emeralds are going to help Sonic OR if he could/should destroy them), couldn't he restore them via chaos control? We see him do something similar in Sonic Adventure when he uses his positive energy to restore the power of the chaos emeralds. Notably, Knuckles is in the exact same scene (and is a good person with friends, just like Sonic), but he encouraged Sonic to fix the emeralds instead of doing it himself. That would insinuate that Sonic is at least as effective at doing this kind of thing as he is, and Knuckles fixed the master emerald. Somewhat shaky reasoning, but it falls in line with how Sonic abilities typically operate. - If base Sonic can already one shot the arwing, shouldn't Super Sonic, who is much faster and stronger than base Sonic, be able to end the fight pretty quickly and take out all 13 of Fox's arwings before Fox could do anything? Especially given that Super Sonic is capable of more long range fighting than before with his abilities from Sonic Frontiers. I especially want to call attention to saying that "Super Sonic would bash the arwing over and over and take himself out of the fight" when y'all mentioned earlier that base Sonic could take it out in one blow. - Another small thing but given that lava, space, and other extremely dangerous extremes can't damage Super Sonic, I'm a little surprised that absolute zero is where Super Sonic's durability would cap out at according to you guys. Especially considering how base Sonic can already deal with being frozen as he does in Sonic X, Sonic 3, Sonic Mania, etc. - Also, there's a very clear time period between the time that Fox's ships are destroyed and the formation of a new one. If we're applying a time period for Sonic to turn Super, then why isn't the same time period thing used with Fox's arwings? - Outside of wisps, as they are transformations, most of Sonic's kit is still accessible while in Super Sonic - so couldn't he use them while Super to win if he sees that things are going downhill? Also, Super Sonic can time stop, so I'm a little confused at where the idea that Fox can also use time stop is a notable advantage vs. Super? Also, SS could just use a wisp and then transform back into Super, but I digress. - Lastly, Sonic (and by extension Super Sonic) should be way faster than light. You're probably going to hear this a LOT, so I apologise lol, but a simple explanation I have for this is that Sonic outran a cyan wisp, who is confirmed FTL. Also surprised at the lack of Solaris scaling, as harming a 5D being should probably count for something, but I digress (again lol). Sonic is also faster than the Light Speed Attack in Unleashed, which you can check using the SPD gauge. These are all just examples outside of the multiple statements from various official sources that claim he's FTL, but I figure y'all probably don't give much weight to them - just figured I'd bring it up regardless. Small tangent, but in a similar vein to speed it isn't unfeasible to say that Super Sonic could reach verse-level destruction capabilities given him beating the Egg Wizard and having his own attacks be stronger than Solaris's reflected attacks. Anyway, if y'all ever make a Q&A and/or followup to this, I'd like to see a few of these questions answered if y'all have the time to. Mostly only spoke about Sonic since I know him the most, but please feel free to correct me if I got anything wrong about Fox in my questions. I imagine y'all already have your hands full with all of the questions concerning Sonic/SS scaling to the likes of Merlina/Alf Wala-whatever/Infinite/Solaris/Time Eater/etc. lol, so I'll call it here. Thanks for the awesome video!

One thing I sorta wish you mentioned was Chaos Control, mainly it's ability to teleport. But the fight was fun and the analysis was good

damn this fight was honestly amazing, regardless of what you think of the outcome, this is death battle levels of good. probably better.

I get the ending, but what happened to those small creatures that could revive fox for 9 times or something? Great episode regardless

I don't entirely agree with certain things said on Sonic's part, I feel some things did got downplayed a bit, like his invulnerability in Super form, but that was a cool fight nonetheless.

Love this channel

honestly this is the most interesting "vs Sonic" animation i've seen, never seen a fight where destroying the emeralds was considered

26:03 found the obligatory Kirby getting hurt scene in this fight, your welcome everyone

I honestly feel like sonic was extremely low balled here, when base sonic has moved faster than light at multiple points in the series and it’s been made a clear point that he can’t go at max speed all the time because he’d harm the environment around him. Sonic’s durability also feels needed in base as it surviving a black whole after destroying the Nega-wisp armor (which he also outran for an extended period of time putting him at FTL speeds in base) I also don’t understand how fox’s gun could break the Emeralds. Using knuckles as an example removes the context of that scene. Knuckles is the guardian of the Master Emerald and also has many powers associated with the emeralds. He was able to use said power to break apart the Master Emerald. Something only he, and chaos have been able to do, and Chaos is a literal god of destruction. I like the animation and the personality put into both characters but it really is just a stomp in Sonic’s favor.

The post credits scene, I'd say that I never saw it coming, but I could say that for like... half of the video.

I love the intro

Wasn't expecting Sonic to win, so I came into this battle expecting him to lose. I'm glad he won! I absolutely loved this animation, both characters felt very in character during this fight! Fox breaking the chaos emeralds to force Sonic out of super disappointed me at first because I thought that meant it'd be a regular fight now. Pulling out Caliburn surprised me and hyped me up. My only nitpick is that I wanted to see some more of Sonic's combat and abilities. Fox's combat was great, but Sonic mainly felt like he was getting thrown around all match until he used the wisps and Caliburn. The Caliburn sequence felt a bit short too. Other than that, I loved the animation. Great work as always!