Why 3 Pieces Are Better Than A Queen?

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About This Video:
In chess, minor pieces (knights and bishops) are worth 3 points. The queen is worth 9 points. One might conclude that 3 pieces should be equal to a queen. But it turns out in practice, that the 3 pieces will usually outperform the queen. In this video we look at an example game where you can see the power the 2 knights and bishop have over the lone queen. By protecting your pieces with pawns, the queen has a hard time making progress.
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@ChessVibesOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

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@TheMessiahOfThe99Percent Жыл бұрын

“Stuck at 1000 elo?” Stockfish:

@HeSnipes Жыл бұрын

how do you only have like 1 comment

@Cantfindaname917 Жыл бұрын

Stuck at 1 elo? Get good!

@Crocco_bathing_in_jelly Жыл бұрын

stuck at 150💩

@warkagaming9277 Жыл бұрын

😂

@cheetos6154 2 жыл бұрын

"The good thing about losing a queen is that you dont have a queen to blunder anymore"

@havitar3950 2 жыл бұрын

what if you blundered every other piece

@alex2005z 2 жыл бұрын

@@havitar3950 then you need to blunder 3 times, not one. Its much better

@bhendi.3404 2 жыл бұрын

Works irl

@calebgatty5773 2 жыл бұрын

-Said Eric just before blundering a bishop

@rakshitpandey1413 2 жыл бұрын

You can always promote a pawn to a queen and blunder it anyway 😆😆

@zorkan111 2 жыл бұрын

3 pieces vs. queen basically means that every subsequent trade is a loss to the other side. Can't trade pieces one for one because there's no minor pieces left to trade away. In that sense, his every remaining major piece is basically an "undefended" piece because everybody will gladly take a rook with a knight, even though it's defended. Never thought of it that way before, but it makes a lot of sense.

@FlameTaxi 2 жыл бұрын

I don't get what you are saying. Non native speaker here.

@mariovanderwal1695 2 жыл бұрын

@@FlameTaxi what he's saying is that even if you attack my pawn with two rooks, I can still defend it with only one knight. Despite you having more attackers, I am still defending the pawn because if you take the pawn with the rook I can take your rook with my knight and win the exchange.

@sriracha9729 2 жыл бұрын

@@FlameTaxi Relax and drink Orange Juice, you might get it

@akanarcane4598 2 жыл бұрын

In other words it means that you need to over trade opponent with 3 pieces by trade of rook for 2 minor pieces or queen for 2 rooks/4 m.p. to get advantage on the board and position, which is very very hard to do due to numerical superiority

@game_ender4317 2 жыл бұрын

What's interesting is that in an endgame with 4 minor pieces vs a queen, the side with the minor pieces can actually force checkmate, even with a whole queen there is no way to defend.

@wilkinsune 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Not only saying it, but actually showing why. The board coverage was also great. Never actually seen the board like that. It makes sense why positioning and piece coordination give such an advantage. Maybe a Queen against 3 discoordinated pieces will be better.

@CGoldthorpe 2 жыл бұрын

In the hands of a master the coordination of the three pieces, to get maximum effect, is more likely!

@william7yifans 2 жыл бұрын

on an open board it's very hard to maintain piece coordination, but in a middle game with pawns, it's very very hard for the queen to really use it's maneuverability

@mapotofulover6737 2 жыл бұрын

it's really depend on how big brain you are. I saw some Alpha Zero map which one pawn literally lock the whole left side of the board of the enemy

@diabl2master 2 жыл бұрын

He even has those 3 pawns in the bottom left covered, which he didn't show! Seriously good coverage!

@kksrinivas54 Жыл бұрын

Added to that king safety is also equally important I feel, if our king is weak/exposed, this kind of a trade would obviously be catastrophic! The enemy queen can keep checking and at the right moment grab undefended pawns or pieces with some help from the enemy rooks. In the game, white's king was completely safe, so it worked out well.

@jonLK47 3 жыл бұрын

Thought I'm just a 1200 a do wanna mention for all the beginners* out there that in a Queen vs 3 pieces situation out on open board with an exposed king, it's usually better for the player with the Queen because of possible check for the Q that could pick up isolated pawns and pieces.

@Evilanious 3 жыл бұрын

If you have a material advantage you are supposed to consolidate and keep control of the game. If your king is exposed and you have all kinds of loose and uncoordinated pieces, that gives compensation for a material disadvantage, sure. But such a situation would give your opponent a positional advantage regardless of the material match-up. If your opponent also has an open king and loose pawns left and right your three pieces should have just as many opportunities for forks and tactics as the queen. You might as well say that a rook is better than three minor pieces if the guy with three minor pieces hangs backrank mate.

@ChessVibesOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, Jon. You're right it can be tricky against a queen for weaker players but as long as they keep the pieces protected, it will be hard for the queen to do anything. But it's a good point to be aware of, thanks!

@legendyoutube2679 2 жыл бұрын

i agree the queen can always fork the king and isolated pieces but in closed positions the queen is not too active

@kylel3784 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, if they are beginner for sure because they don’t know how to defend or attack properly

@hypnoticlizard9693 2 жыл бұрын

@@ChessVibesOfficial Yeah, but if there are very little pawns left, then the task of defending your pieces gets even harder.

@josephsalmonte4995 2 жыл бұрын

The graphic with the squares lit up, really drives the point home. Great video 👍

@anisekaieddomtorreto9588 2 жыл бұрын

*Note that you can always sacrifice a King with 2 Minor Pieces to help your position to be better.*

@Makron5 2 жыл бұрын

If you sacrifice the king it will give you a huge advantage because you can no longer be mated. I find that most people forget about that and try to keep their king on the board.

@anisekaieddomtorreto9588 2 жыл бұрын

@@Makron5 *Anything for Family.*

@nguyentruongphu1383 Жыл бұрын

This 💀

@jiogcyihsugyiocjfdoivhphvw6821 Жыл бұрын

LMAO

@generalblaze5767 2 жыл бұрын

Remember this, in an endgame, Queens are monsters and you have to play cautiously because if those knights are far away, you best know you ain't seeing them again if you are a beginner or even intermediate player, but in middlegames they are usually better if your king is safe and they will harass the queen, you can draw three minor pieces vs queen, but remember this, they have to protect each other and the king so you have to know your endgame,

@jonathanandreas4257 2 жыл бұрын

Queen in endgame absolutely overpower LoL

@kenweeraratne431 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think if there are enough pawns/other pieces to shield/defend the minor pieces, the minor pieces can easily work together, but in the endgame, the queen usually can fork some minor pieces, so the queen is definitely better in most endgames. Depends on the situation. Though, from what I see, 3 pieces for a queen is quite an uncommon trade to occur, and usually only occurs after one side sacrifices one or two minor pieces, and the other has to give back their queen to defend.

@helvete_ingres4717 2 жыл бұрын

two bishops in the centre of the board in an endgame scenario can easily outperform a queen, having a knight in addition tips the odds against the side with the queen. The queen's ability to fork isn't really a problem if you just..don't move your king or pieces to positions where they can get forked ie. you aren't a noob

@potatoboy549 2 жыл бұрын

Open games in general queen will overpower. If your pieces wander off on the edge, they are gone. If your king is open, your pieces are gone. If yur pawn structure is bad (Isolated or backwards pawns), they are gone. So many threats and with perfect play on both side, best the side with the minor pieces can get is a draw. If it’s a middle game though, 3 pieces will absolutely dominate. Best the side with the queen can do is try to open the position with pawn breaks, otherwise all you have to do is centralize your pieces and, like we saw here, you control almost the entire board with constant fork and pin threats.

@helvete_ingres4717 2 жыл бұрын

@@potatoboy549 'with perfect play on both side, best the side with the minor pieces can get is a draw' - you're talking shit, this is not based on any analysis at all

@AaronJ180 2 жыл бұрын

I wish my brain just did that square light up thing, maybe that’s how GM’s see the board.

@moatef1886 2 жыл бұрын

No they don't actively think about that, at least most of them. Strong players just know how they move fast enough and that isn't really even an issue. Seeing them lit up is just too slow.

@temirlankasmaliev9322 2 жыл бұрын

@@moatef1886 agreed. Cuz many moves are a-priori useless and shouldn’t really be considered aka wasted energy. Rather think about the most likely moves, but deep enough to win the fight

@erdenebilegerdenebat230 2 жыл бұрын

I think their subconsciousness does the job here

@mariovanderwal1695 2 жыл бұрын

@@moatef1886 they don't literally light up in your head. But stronger players will always have a very clear idea of what squares are controlled and defended and which ones are weak without having to count the pieces and check which squares they attack with which piece.

@Notabl3 2 жыл бұрын

How do people not understand it’s just a joke

@GMPranav 2 жыл бұрын

I remember that one game where Vishy gave 3 pieces for the queen and was able to win, I didn't realise how non-standard and innovative that idea was until I saw this video.

@rutvijtole9264 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, that was world rapid championship match against peter leko!!

@ratioripbozo 2 жыл бұрын

@@rutvijtole9264 It's Lékó Péter! English alphabet 🤮

@julimos7301 2 жыл бұрын

@@ratioripbozo They wrote it as well as they could without having to waste time to place those special characters, and honestly english is way better, and the reason is the EXACT SAME ONE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. You don't have to be bothering to put multiple of these special characters, which is way easier and comfortable for people using keyboards. Also no, I'm not saying this cuz it's the language I was born with or smth like that, my native language is actually spanish and it does use a lot of these special characters, which I HATE.

@ratioripbozo 2 жыл бұрын

@@julimos7301 Boohoo. Salty has arrived

@julimos7301 2 жыл бұрын

@@ratioripbozo "Salty" I was just defending Rutvij Tole, since they did nothing wrong and you were the one being actually a bit ew ngl. Come back when u have an actual argument Ig? Lets just end it here, before anyone of us starts getting toxic, and you come up with your little insults, bye.

@cptnoremac 2 жыл бұрын

5:17 You already had a fork opportunity here. Thanks for sharing.

@ronniereloaded 2 жыл бұрын

Got reminded of this video while seeing recent Carlsen-Giri match. Former sacrificed queen for 3 pieces in move 8 and won.

@kondzio9235 2 жыл бұрын

5:17 The Knight e7 fork is avaliable, and yet so white plays another move

@hansgruber5407 2 жыл бұрын

@@_AlQuran1 diffrent knight computer likes it but maybe nelson missed it or thought there was some threat

@hansgruber5407 2 жыл бұрын

this is his response btw : 'It does look pretty good. It would be a little tricky after Ra8, Nxf5, Ra1+, Kd2, but I think you're right, still probably good for me. I missed it completely in the game though in time pressure!'

@mikkihintikka7273 2 жыл бұрын

@@_AlQuran1 ahh you are one more person to give false information

@bakonman6611 2 жыл бұрын

Three pieces can coordinate with each other. A single queen attacking three pieces can't do anything if multiple pieces are both defending each other and attacking at the same time. It'd just be more efficient to have multiple pieces doing many things instead of just having a single piece running around trying not to get caught while attacking.

@lambchu6459 2 жыл бұрын

Id be SUPER interested if you continued this match from the point which you traded your queen off vs a GM. I would like to see what a GM would do vs a strong player such as yourself in this situation.

@lambchu6459 2 жыл бұрын

Awesomely enough if anyones curious, Magnus just played a game where this situation came up!! Heres the vid via Agadmator: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ipt5kslzkt2ygHU.html&ab_channel=agadmator%27sChessChannel

@srikkanthank Жыл бұрын

You can try this against engine from that point on

@youuuuuuuuuuutube Жыл бұрын

GM would have easily won. After the trade, both white and black look about the same. Sure it's 3 pieces vs a queen but black has an extra pawn too. The problem is that black directly blundered with that b5-b4 move.

@4grammaton 2 жыл бұрын

If following the logic of nominal piece values, then bishops have been shown to be worth slightly more than 3 points (around 3.15 to 3.5 or so). And since 3 minor pieces will necessarily involve at least one bishop, together they will add up to slightly more than 9.

@elzbietakowalska6432 2 жыл бұрын

3 minor pieces are better than a queen as long as you know how to properly coordinate them. It would be easier for a weaker player to maneuver with only a queen.

@DudeWatIsThis Жыл бұрын

A weaker player's goal is to get better, though. If you'd rather have a queen, you'll never get better in this scenario.

@nerpe9946 Жыл бұрын

@@DudeWatIsThis Every player's goal is to get better. If a weaker player is looking to win then they may want to have a queen instead.

@olegtrophymenko7037 Жыл бұрын

@@nerpe9946 not true to be fair. Most player's goal is just to relax and have fun

@nerpe9946 Жыл бұрын

@@olegtrophymenko7037 Yeah I do agree but the same applies to weaker players. I just didn't feel the comment I replied too was all that correct!

@marLamaDeo 3 жыл бұрын

Hi I’m new to chess, thanks for the amazing videos! Is Ne7 at 5:13 not a good fork?

@jonathanw8450 3 жыл бұрын

Looks pretty good to me! He could have done it at 5:17 as well but I think he was running low on time and didn't quite see it.

@ChessVibesOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

It does look pretty good. It would be a little tricky after Ra8, Nxf5, Ra1+, Kd2, but I think you're right, still probably good for me. I missed it completely in the game though in time pressure!

@michelnaouss748 2 жыл бұрын

@@ChessVibesOfficial knight on f5 still protects your bishop so he cannot checkmate by taking the bishop with his queen after Kd2, though he could fork your knight and you bishop with qf3 but that would be a good trade for you a minor peace for a rook

@bobsteeb937 3 жыл бұрын

Great example

@ChessVibesOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Bob!

@aliersinoral 2 жыл бұрын

4:06 was a brilliant move, both attacking black's queen and protecting the king. But after that, at 5:18, I guess you couldn't see the Ne7 where you fork the rooks. Or maybe pushing your pawn seemed a bit more advantageous, I don't know. But if you think Ne7 was unnecessary, why?

@FBZOMBlES 2 жыл бұрын

This is definitely true for more experienced players. Beginner/intermediate players might have trouble coordinating the pieces to get the most out of them.

@toowiggly 2 жыл бұрын

But newer players have a higher chance to blunder a queen

@animaniacs538 Жыл бұрын

@@toowiggly yea but if you are at the level where you frequently blunder a queen, there’s no way you’re gonna be able to coordinate 2 knights and a bishop to win the game.

@toowiggly Жыл бұрын

@@animaniacs538 That's assuming the only pieces you have are those pieces. Usually you have a rook or something to help with the checkmates. Even if you just have two knights and a bishop and the other side has nothing, you don't have much opportunity to blunder them or a queen, so what I said isn't applicable to that.

@5kunk157h35h17 2 жыл бұрын

Just had this odd game right after seeing this, where I had two bishops and six pawns against a rook, a queen and three pawns. Mine were connected in two lumps of three but all his were isolated. A bit odd, but I won. He couldn't take anything without losing a rook or a queen vs a pawn, a bishop or one of each.

@lightman9935 2 жыл бұрын

I mean if we count the materials he was basically up a rook so he shouldnt have lost that even against a solid structure of pawns, he couldve tried to make mate threats with this heavy pieces and that way he could force you to either sacrifice a piece, distract a piece to break your pawn chain and start gobbling up the pawns, or just zugswang you and start pushing his pawns to either make a new queen or break the pawn chains. Still good job to you for defending that position.

@igorz4582 2 жыл бұрын

Kind of irrelevant if you can't mention your elo

@5kunk157h35h17 2 жыл бұрын

@@lightman9935 according to the engine analysis i was at one point ahead more than 8 pawns.

@5kunk157h35h17 2 жыл бұрын

@@lightman9935 I guess that towards the endgame, passed pawns increase a lot in value if your opponent has nothing to sac to them. Anyhow I just wanted to share it because it was a fun coincidence.

@rendezvousonmemorylane 2 жыл бұрын

@@igorz4582 No, it's not irrelevant. wtf does his elo have to do with anything. Stop gatekeeping.

@RikMaxSpeed 2 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this video, easier to follow as slightly less intensely paced than some of your others, and illustrated by a real-world game example that demonstrated the concept very well. Thank you.

@jeffreygao3956 2 жыл бұрын

If it was three knights, then I'd favor the Queen.

@matthewz571 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid. Explained concept in a short and easy to remember way. Showed exactly why it’s useful

@TevionErazer 2 жыл бұрын

the visualization you did at 4:15 was super interesting!!

@bethanystover7679 2 жыл бұрын

Your videos are so helpful. Thanks for sharing all the tips and tricks!

@eriklinderstam2140 2 жыл бұрын

I think the key things that got you a win instead of a draw was the material count before making the trade. If there are less pawns playing for a win gets a lot harder as there often are scenarios where your opponent can just sack the queen in a way that leaves you with two knights and any type of forward and aggressive piece moves get a lot more dangerous on a open board so you might almost be forced to set up a fortress to not risk loosing.

@mariovanderwal1695 2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to add that if you find yourself in the position where you have the queen against 3 pieces, the best way to play it is to try to open up the position as much as possible. There are no absolutes in chess, but most of the time you will be looking for a draw rather than a win, so always check if you can make a perpetual check which is often possible if your opponent is not carefull. Sometimes you can even sacrifice a rook or even two to get a perpetual.

@user-dh8oi2mk4f Жыл бұрын

Opening up the position also makes the opponent's king more vulnerable, which makes it easier to win a piece back or create counterplay.

@chessthinking4921 3 жыл бұрын

Great video from you Chess Vibes, your videos are very informational and help me with my chess. Was introduced to you through the Chess Rating Climb video series, and have been watching ever since. Thank you.

@ChessVibesOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot, glad you're learning!

@lsandjs9793 Жыл бұрын

5:16 knight E7 would’ve been a beautiful fork

@AlejoGoVegan 2 жыл бұрын

Thats really good example, I'm a begginer and I was wondering about this. Thank you!

@scorpioz78 2 жыл бұрын

Good video with explanations. Thank you

@danno1800 2 жыл бұрын

You did a really nice job - thanks - much appreciated!

@tank.4496 2 жыл бұрын

Great demonstration of this kind of situation and how to deal with it, thanks.

@BironClark 2 жыл бұрын

Wow.. great video and explanation. Thanks

@Samuftie 2 жыл бұрын

Very instructive!

@richardohana8898 2 жыл бұрын

Stellar video! Very very informative. My only editing complaint is that the intro and outro music was quite loud compared to the rest of the video. Otherwise, extremely well done!

@nuggers23 2 жыл бұрын

One of the best chess vids so far on yt!

@Sweaty_- 2 жыл бұрын

a very nice example , actually showing how the 3 pieces covering the whole board and how all of them are targeting that queen while the queen cant target anyone of them cuz its a very important piece , *Thanks :D*

@factandsuspicionpodcast2727 Жыл бұрын

This is one of the best explanations of the advantages three minor pieces can have over a queen I've seen. Really solid work.

@d.s.alcoda Жыл бұрын

fantastic example, line that really sold it for me was how if you keep attacking the queen, she has to keep moving cuz thats the whole gameplan, while you can lose pieces of your "gameplan" and still be in a good spot w trades

@GovernorBroadsideDS 2 жыл бұрын

Man this video came into my reccomended right on time! In one of my daily games there is currently a possible line where I can get 3 pieces for a queen, all I have to do is wait for my opponent's move and see if it's possible.

@COCmcGameSupport 2 жыл бұрын

Legendary name and profile pic

@lightman9935 2 жыл бұрын

One thing someone notices at the sub 1200 level is that people that play the Italian always go for the bishop+knight battery at the f7 pawn, after black has successfuly castled, they still go for the exchange of bishop+knight for rook+pawn, which is catastrophic for white because 2 minor pieces are almsot always better than a rook with a pawn, in the endgame the pawn becomes a liability and the rook has to watch over it, while the minor pieces attack both of them.

@c0mplicated 2 жыл бұрын

4:19 ne7 is unstoppable now

@Sambal86 2 жыл бұрын

I remember in my first year of OTB chess, i was 1500 or so and had to play someone 2000+. I was doing quite well in the opening an early middlegame, I felt like there had to be something in the position, but i couldn't manage and eventually a lot of trades happenened and i got crushed in the endgame. Computer analysis later turned out that there was indeed something, I could give the queen for 3 pieces and have a significant advantage. Me and my opponent both didn't even consider it.

@leoparzleoparz6187 2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering if the Ne7 fork does works at 5:16... could someone tell me ? (After ... Qf3)

@langlinaiseiou 2 жыл бұрын

I love your content I hope you blow up. Very instructive and concise!

@ayushprasad8207 3 жыл бұрын

5:17 ...did he miss the rook fork by the knight?

@ChessVibesOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you are right that was missed! Although its a little tricky after Ra8 with Ra1+ ideas but still looks better for white

@bijoyetribhowmik9905 2 жыл бұрын

Best example possible.. thanx

@adrianprundaru9777 2 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely one of the best chess teachers ever!!!!!

@fantomghost6213 Ай бұрын

Great game, great advice!

@mihapro4097 Жыл бұрын

5:16 You missed a rook fork with the knight. u couldve moved ur knight to E7 which wins 2 material. thats why the eval bar dropped a few points and the pawn move was probably marked as a missed win.

@christophermendoza6936 Жыл бұрын

I love watching the 3 pieces for a Queen trade videos. Wish there were more of them

@buddybuythis3889 2 жыл бұрын

Love the board coverage analysis.

@muffi98 2 жыл бұрын

5:18 ne7 forking the rooks ?

@saadiftikhar3317 2 жыл бұрын

I won a game once where my opponent had a queen and I had three minor pieces and a rook. Rook stated with king for safety. While minor pieces harassed queen relentlessly. I had pawns to support em too and eventually I captured it

@tigruja 3 жыл бұрын

Nice videos bro, love your content :D

@ChessVibesOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

@Aghiiles 2 жыл бұрын

5:15 you missed Ne7 :D thanks for the video

@sady02_ 2 жыл бұрын

Man that was awesome thanks

@sayedsohailhashemi7007 Жыл бұрын

Min 6:27. Best move for the black queen was to move to d6, when the knight captures on d8 the queen captures the rook on e5. After that; the white knight on d8 will definitely move to c6 forking the queen and rook again but the queen easily moves to f5 checking the king and rescuing the rook after that.

@christopherheckman7957 Жыл бұрын

5:18 White missed a knight fork here. (Ne7) This shows that with more pieces, you have more tactical possibilities as well.

@oceanthresher6184 Жыл бұрын

The most entertaining kind of position for me. I love having multiple little pieces against one big piece (such as bishop and knight vs rook) and slowly strangling my opponent.

@GarethLategan 2 жыл бұрын

Super inciteful stuff!

@mahri9022 3 жыл бұрын

I always feel like I’m loosing after I trade my rook for a night and bishop but ig not

@ChessVibesOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah usually 2 pieces are better than the rook

@grizzlyjp 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice to see the concept demonstrated with a concrete example rather than someone just speaking in conceptual terms. Thanks Nelson.

@ChessVibesOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@TheBassBaritone 2 жыл бұрын

you played a great end game. Rarely someone under 1900 would have won that game. Your position was already good for the trade, and amazing end game.

@sunnyd8585 2 жыл бұрын

Could you please do a video on R+R vs 3 minor pieces next?

@nilberthsouza 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, this Will help me

@Nafghar 2 жыл бұрын

I wold have liked to hear some general rules how the sides should play. Who wants to trade pawns in this situation? Who wants to trade pieces? Who wants to open up the position, who wants to close it? Stuff like that would be quite helpful

@alex2005z 2 жыл бұрын

The dude with the small pieces wants the endgame. Its a bit hard to play, but in the endgame its winning for the 3 pieces bc your pawns can promote since you got more control of squares. Dude with the queen wants to infiltrate and pick off weak pieces or pawns.

@anametoignore2286 Жыл бұрын

sometimes I want to turn the computer off because it's annoying how it will take positions you feel very comfortable in and say you're losing but neither you nor your opponent is seeing this like 10 move deep winning state

@trollermcgeetv Жыл бұрын

I know this video is a year old but I had a similar situation where I got 2 pieces and a rook against a queen and they just couldn’t get any counterplay. This helped me understand that piece coordination is key. Can you make a video about 2 rooks vs queen?

@malachiramirez2004 Жыл бұрын

Positioning is also very important when it comes to whether or not you would value the three pieces over your pawn. If you can take 3 developed pieces in a similar exchange that would be huge

@Socio95 Жыл бұрын

5:17 "oh he missed the fork maybe black is winning if he traded it" 5:37 "oh..."

@paveljirgal8143 Жыл бұрын

Great video, never noticed that. Anyway when you showed the coverage of the board (which is very interesting point), after he continued with queen one square, you could have easily fork his rooks with knight.... Why didnt you do that? Is that something hidden or you just havent noticed that?

@john-a5472 2 жыл бұрын

I will definitely try this when I get the chance

@theirishpizzaguy6663 2 жыл бұрын

Love the 2s intro, ty

@msalty2823 2 жыл бұрын

good coordination between you pieces.

@manutd8581 Жыл бұрын

5:18 you had a fork on the two rocks with your knight

@toastedjam1470 2 жыл бұрын

That explains alot

@anandacharya9919 2 жыл бұрын

Today , I learned a news thing in Chess, Thank you very much, Sir, 🙏

@Duracell-lb1br 2 жыл бұрын

i learned so much!!! just one question i'm 1200 in chess and not really understanding too much but why on minute 5:17 you did not fork the rooks? with Ne7? just asking the explanation, i want to learn more, thanks. P.S sorry for bad english

@sudiptodam7473 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, in the one comment, he said, he missed it

@JoloBoloMeksyk 2 жыл бұрын

Cool tutorial!

@88mphDrBrown 2 жыл бұрын

Did you have a fork with Ne7 at 5:18? Or am I missing something?

@panjelen9559 2 жыл бұрын

5:05 e7 ? - fork

@Litago94 2 жыл бұрын

Another interesting scenario is BBNN vs QR!

@-ZM_Gaming- Жыл бұрын

This is why I rather have the queens outta board because those 3 pieces can attack simultaneously while the queen can only be 1 piece. Remember that the queen needs another piece to deliver checkmate (excluding backrank checkmate)

@KaijudoMaster11 Жыл бұрын

When it comes to the 3 pieces, is the dark squared bishop always best option, or can I go light squared bishop and two knights'?

@randomguy6680 2 жыл бұрын

So, basically, at equal material, having quantity is better than quality as all exchanges become beneficial (assuming you can ultimately make it to the endgame).

@audigex 2 жыл бұрын

At 5:15 after the Queen move, do you miss a fork on the rooks or there something else I’ve not seen there?

@e_sky3045 Жыл бұрын

I’ve seen people at low ELO have three pieces versus a queen, and just kind of left the majority of their material in the corner. While the other side just kept saying “ooh a queen move”

@youuuuuuuuuuutube Жыл бұрын

I feel like he should have played f7-f5 asap, to get rid of that e4 pawn, instead of letting the knight jump in ... that b5-b4 move wasn't doing anything, in fact it even gave a target to that knight.

@robertabrahamsen9076 Жыл бұрын

I knew an IM, a state champion, who'd almost always immediately trade his queen for 3 pieces, or for a rook and a piece, if the opportunity allowed. He could triangulate with the extra pieces exceptionally well, where his opponents' queen would usually wind up being a weakness.

@alex_zetsu Жыл бұрын

I want to see a real game situation played in a tournament (1200 +, all the way up to GM level) where in the position, one side is ahead in material by a queen and pawn vs 3 minor pieces, the side with the queen has 1 minor piece, the side without the queen has 4 minor pieces, the side with the queen has at least 4 total pawns, both players make at least 7 moves without capturing or blundering material, and the side with the queen is in a better position.

@1m2ogaming 2 жыл бұрын

Next video try same position vs Stockfish after you do the trades will be fun to try.

@BreakTheIce222 Жыл бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong but with perfect play on pawnless endgames, a queen vs 3 minor pieces is usually a draw except in rare scenarios like all the pieces being bishops of the same color.

@ZombieMiraculer74 Жыл бұрын

In an endgame, there are positions that three minor pieces win against a lone queen, but there are also positions where the queen can draw the board. If the pieces are uncoordinated there is a possibility that a queen can win. Four minor pieces always win against the queen, regardless of the positions.

@ankitdubey9310 2 жыл бұрын

this is because of the outpost the knight has

@oliverkolossoski1434 2 жыл бұрын

That also extends for other values in my experience. Like... most of the time a piece and two pawns is better than a rook, or two pieces are better than a rook and a pawn. Also three pawns are better than a piece.

@escapedlunatic27 2 жыл бұрын

Depends how well co-ordinated the three pieces are, and how well protected the king is. This is a good example where the answer to both is "very well", but if the pieces are far apart and difficult to defend, the queen can easily fork them, or one of them and the king. And even if the position is otherwise better for the side with the three pieces, if the king is exposed then the queen might still be able to force perpetual check.