I think you nailed it on the head.

100%

Facts!

Brady was the system....Brady flash came in the command of thr field ...the elevation of his players and the ability to rise in those moments

Players want to be flashy. I've been watching Brady since I was a kid. He was the master of 5-6min long drives, not the one play TD that makes the highlights reel.

"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard" This why Tom Brady is the most accomplished QB in the modern era.

I think Joe Burrow is.

Most of Brady’s best qualities were intangibles. Leadership, understanding of X’s and O’s, a huge memory bank of plays on either defence or offence, ability to recall said plays, his precise arm mechanic, his ability to continuously have one of the shortest release time in the NFL, his innate ability to protect the ball, his ability to quickly pick up what is offered by the defensive team. Brady was never the no risk it no biscuit type of player at the core because it meant taking risk more often than not unnecessary risks. He wanted to win and what gave him the best odds of winning was selecting the plays with the least amount of risk which is more often than not the short gains you mix it up with longer gains to become less predictable and minimize the risk of losing the ball. You practice often and hard to again minimize the risk of fumbling the play during a real game situation. It is a well documented fact that the Patriots practices are one of the toughest regiments of the NFL when it comes to practices. One last point I agree that most players young or old would not be willing to make the sacrifices that Brady did for years in order to attain the level of play that he did.

Summed up perfectly what I was also thinking.

@@NathanDean79he won’t last sadly

In a sense yes. Brady was never about being flashy. He was about playing the odds in a football game the same way Buffet is playing the odds on the financial markets.

That’s a smooth brain take, doesn’t even make sense.

Lol children are going to practice 5 yard slants and outs in the back field. Brady was also the master of the screen. How TF you gonna practice throwing a screen in the back yard 😂

He underachieved though allat talent & he only been to & won 1 Super Bowl

​​@@shizzoflex3121everyone who knows football knows he has underachieved. I don't believe that is a point worth making anymore to someone who's highlighting Aaron's talent.

Yeah Rodgers on field talent is close to untouchable. The only guys that have a case is Marino and Mahomes, but Mahomes is more due to his overall package of improvisation and athleticism.

@@ThomasOrtizMusic you can’t tell me rodgers is more talented then Mahomes Mahomes is probably the greatest talent I’ve ever seen he got the clutchness of Tom Brady with the talent of Marino rodgers like it’s ridiculous with him man

​@ThomasOrtizMusic exactly. People for some reason feel the need in every conversation to bring up one ring. Like we know that already we can still highlight other things

Correct!

mahomes and marino better imo

Aaron Rodgers isn't close to the best thrower of the football.

You don’t understand the assignment. Tom Brady’s game, aside from the 2007 season, is kinda boring. Definitely boring compared to Rodgers. Rodgers rolls out, gets pressured, and beams Greg Jennings right in the numbers on a throw while on his back foot. Brady takes what the defense gives him. Every. Single. Time.

@@musiconanotherlevel4.52 TD:Interception ratio. Hes one of only 2 above 4.0(Mahomes is just under him), and only 1 of 4 above a 3.0.

@@dft1 Brady has thrown for 4/5 of the top passing games in SB history including #1 - 505 yards and #2- 466 yards > Mahomes & Marino 0 At age 43 Brady threw for more TD's in the 1st half of SB 55 than Mahomes did in his first 2 Super Bowls combined..

to qbs he is read the title. Mahomes favorite qb growing up is rodgers. Caleb williams Jalen hurts drake maye, dak baker, lamar jackson all grew idolizing rodgers.

Yeah like they played on better teams maybe? Terry Bradshaw has 4 super bowls, Marino has zero. Was Bradshaw better? Lol.

Physical skills Montana had more then Marino, Marino had the arm but moved like a snail

@@nathanshackelford7812 Terry Bradshaw came up big in big games, Dan Marino never did

@@lmswentzeljr The Steel Curtain came up big in big games. Terry Bradshaw went along for the ride. Dan Marino didn't play with the steel curtain. And Aaron Rodgers didn't play with Bill Belichick or in the Pats system.

mahomes?

exactly

because he was signed to under armor with brady

@@user-uc9nl9wy7i he signed with him for a reason, hes been a fan since high school

If people refer to you as someone else’s kid and not your actual name you don’t meet the qualifier for this conversation. 😂

yeah this doesn’t make sense 😂 you are dickriding brady, the point is younger athletes who watched brady not being inspired not his competitors 😂

The job of a qb is to orchestrate an offense utilizing offensive weapons such as TE RB WR AND OL to move the ball downfield to score either a TD or to put FG kicker into range to kick a FG and to outscore the opponent. ...you are talking ABOUT 1 ASPECT of the qb position none of which has won him the games that count...rodgers inability to work with his offense to elevate...what he does is control what he can control why he was fixated on that particular stat...he had neither the leadership the drive or the determination to use his offense to win and in thr clutch..the audacity to even suggest RODGERS HAD A HIGHER FOOTBALL IQ ...WELL I HOPE YOU WERE NOT EVEN REMOTELY TALKING ABOUT BRADY...BRADY FOOTBALL IQ COMPLETELY OVERTAKES THE QB IN THE NFL ERA....tom brady was the only qb to play the position the way it was suppose to be played ...dud it primarily from the pocket ..used his mental acuity in place of his legs preserving his body....to be able to elevate every caliber of players..to be so clutch that it is synonymous with his name...and the rare ability to be a star but play in the trenches with his teammates..the leadership to command professionalism...tom bradys IQ was far superior thsn all the nfl qb...he was just humble enough to downplay it

@brett2383...that's athletics...not Football acumen ...which Brady possesses...IQ has little to do with throwing the ball...get real!

Aaron's IQ?

What was the result of that season? Rodgers played to take 0 chances and pad his stats as much as possible. I’m a packers fan. I couldn’t count how many times I’ve seen him throw it away on 3rd and 10 instead of taking a shot just so he didn’t throw a pick. I’d much rather have Favre than Rodgers. At least he gave his team a chance. Rodgers was afraid to make mistakes his entire career because it would look bad on HIS stats. That’s why they were always favorites and never won when it mattered

He's the bill russell of the nfl, ( most rings)

mahomes already a lot better

Horrendous clutch QB

That is why they selected Brady no 1 player of the NFL in 2022 and neither Mahomes or Rodgers. Nice try but better luck next time with your take. By the way Mahomes is aspiring to exceeds Brady’s legacy by studying his SB tapes why do you think that is? Also this year’s KC Chiefs looked a lot more like an old version of the Patriots team with a stout defence and a good offence again why do you think that is?

​@@michelleblanc6377 but he does have a point though. If you're building a team and have the 1st pick, you're not taking the stationary QB who can't run AT ALL over guys who throw just as well as Brady, but are WAY MORE athletic. That's obvious. That's why Brady was drafted so low. Same with Brock. You're always gonna draft the QB with more raw talent typically over just the prototypical dropback passer nowadays. The game has changed

@@jctslice Brain and Leadership are still components of an excellent QB and Brady has that in spade compared to any other QB even to this day. The mobile QB has always been a questionable quality. Because a player best ability is availability and having a mobile QB puts his availability at risk and in most cases very heavily shortened the length of their career. If we would still even today draft Brady late in a draft that shows we have made no kind of progress in recruiting when it comes to measuring the intangible abilities of a QB. In 2021 when Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, Trey Lance and Mac Jones were drafted they were all supposed to become superstar in the league and Trevor Lawrence was supposed to be a generational talent. 3 years later all 4 qb’s that I named except for Lawrence are on the verge of either being perennial backup or simply out of the league as for Lawrence his position as a starter is wobbly and you can forget the generational talent part unless he blooms out of nowhere in the next couple of years. This tells we that when it comes to evaluating the talent of QB’s if we stick to throwing and running instead of all the other non athletic qualities that are paramount to an elite QB and are at the core of having a generational talent (Brady has proven that for over 20 years). No wonder as to why we end up with a draft like 2021or the one Brady was in 2001. Where we end up picking a ton of QB that will have abysmal careers in the NFL. So that you tell me that to this day you would still pass on Brady based on athletically performance

@@jctslice No the game has not changed that much. Brady was in the running for MVP only two years ago. Raw talent for what? running like a gazelle? Throwing a perfect spiral? Your QB is the brain of your offence he is not supposed to be running like a gazelle to gain yards. If you are doing that it means either your offence is poorly constructed or you can’t execute properly. You have that kind of player in Baltimore in Lamar Jackson. How is that working out for them? I would say like most mobile QB poor playoff performance and often injured. The Prototypical mobile QB often injured and a shortened career. The best ability for a NFL player is availability and especially for a QB. I am certain you can’t define the raw talent that is required from a QB. Because you just said that you would pass on Brady today! Brady at 44 was putting MVP worthy performances and lost in the AFCCG to the Rams on a blown coverage who would go on to win the SB and won the SB the year before. You want an example of why look at the draft of 2021 they whiffed on the first five QB that were selected in the first round. I say whiffed even for Trevor Lawrence because he was supposed to be a generational talent and unless he has an epiphany in the next couple of years he is just going to be an ok QB. You say pocket passer are a thief the past Brock Purdy who was Mr Irrelevant two years ago was top 5 in most QB metrics of the NFL. How can the talent scouting of the Niners get it so wrong on Trey Lance and get it so right on the last pick of the draft in Brock Purdy. The conclusion is fairly easy to make this means that the criteria that we use to evaluate QB is inadequate. Because if it was it would happen like any other positions in the draft that on average we would get it right most of the time on early picks and less on later picks and currently this is not what we see when it comes to QB selection it happens too often that players that should be exceptional turns out to be dud and players that should be dud turns out to be exceptional.

@@michelleblanc6377 im glad we agree defense in crucial to who wins the superbowl. Rodgers has lost playoff games scoring 45 while Burrow has never scored over 28 and is considered a playoff qb. Brady is by far the most accomplished qb ever thats not a slight its what makes you the goat.

All the things that you mentioned are very hard to see on the field and therefore very difficult to emulate by an aspiring elite QB. Like I said many times if you had a measuring scale for every QB intangibles Brady would have been picked 1st overall instead of 199.

Exactly. People tend to ignore that....

Never said that. Or show proof, he said Rodgers woiuld have 7000 yards a season, thoiugh, but Brady is a good guy, exaggerating Rodgers prowess

in brady's 2nd season in 2002 he led the nfl is touchdowns passing while rodgers was still in highschool / in 2007 he was the first qb to throw for 50 touchdowns and rodgers hadn't even started an nfl game. like the other guy said it's amazing that 4 dopes agreed with you. Tells you a lot about the internet though so let me get this straight brady won 3 super bowls and 2 super bowl mvps while rodgers was still in highschool and you claim brady learned from him 😂😂😂

Brady had the greatest season in NFL history in 2007 up to that point in history throwing 50 TD s. 5000 yards and only 8 INT s while Rodgers hadn't yet played an NFL game and you said he learned from Rodgers. What? watching him as a backup sitting on the sidelines in Green Bay??? Buddy go back to sleep and sober up

@@trevmac8362 Those Rodgers fanboys has it twisted. Even Mahomes made everybody forget about Rodgers LOL

How's this one? > 28-26 Falcons in that SB comeback and The Pats must make a 2 point conversion to tie it with only 1 minute left. Brady hits Amendola on a picture perfect time 1.5 yard slant for the tie under the most clutch conditions ever. No one makes that pass but Brady *Period* And the Pats had to make 2-2 point conversion in the 4th quarter

Great story that actually relays what Brady was at the core and unfortunately too many people do not get that part in regards of what made Brady so great compared to everyone else. Also it is something that we saw Brady do time and time again throw a TD pass (in this case Scotty Miller) in a very important game in a crucial moment just because they were the best option at the time instead of going to the usual suspects. That is why I am so appalled when people downplays his level of talent I am sorry if you just can’t see that he was obsessed about only one thing that was winning and he took all the necessary steps to make it happen. Everything else the stats, the personal accolades it was a byproduct of winning nothing else.

The difference is Aaron would've thrown the most perfect ball in that situation but Aaron wouldn't have been in this situation to begin with because he never elevated anyone of his guys, his recievers had to live up to his standards not the other way around and that's why he never won in big moments.

Why does that matter?

A 23 year old who was 10 when the Packers won their lone super bowl with Rodgers? Giving his opinion on something completely hypothetical?

That was his opinion. The only guys that have played that I’d feel confident saying would have won more super bowls than Rodgers in his situation would have been Brady, Mahomes and Manning. That’s it.

@@nathanshackelford7812he’s old enough to have watched his last 5 years in greenbay. Every excuse possible was chopped down one by one until there were no more excuses to make.

Not great bro. Allen, Pat, Favre, Vick had great arms. Rodgers too. Brady had a GOOD arm, not great

​@@jctslice How are you judging "Great Arm?" Brady threw it 70 Yds to Moss when he had him lmao... However, distance is not the way to judge QBs arm. Brady was/is more accurate than all the guys you named except for Rodgers in the Regular Season. Go watch Brady's Greatest Throws here on KZfaq, none of those dudes make throws like Brady SMH...

@@jctslice lmao. you don't know ball. brady was clocked throwing it 67 mph IN GAME on a seam pass in his final year in the league, which is harder than mahomes in his most recent pro bowl skills competition. does mahomes have a stronger arm? yes. can brady make every throw an NFL QB needs to ever make? yes. as early as 2006, announcers were calling him the best QB in the game and saying he had the strongest arm in the game. you can watch highlights of it on youtube. this revisionist history is hilarious. whatever. i'm out. not gonna respond anymore to you Gen Z clowns.

@@tedfio1tedfio1 great means you can effortlessly RIFLE a ball down the field with elite power

@@jctslice Okay, Brady could do that! He threw a 70+ Yd strike to Randy Moss in the SB.

I get what you're trying to say but in this case Rodgers is the better thrower of the ball. Brady has 2 things that made him who he is. The Ability to read the game and make quick decisions and his ability to stay composed in tight moments. I think Aaron's biggest flaw was not staying composed in big moments. He doesn't completely break down but he does get slightly flustered. I believe Rodgers is the best thrower of a football. If you bring intangibles he might not be the best QB but still top 6. Career wise Tom had a better one without a doubt. So it's pretty difficult to argue against him but I do believe that peak for peak Aaron was a better QB.

i honestly dont think there's another human on earth, and yes that includes Mahomes, that couldve done what Brady did in the SB against Atlanta in front of 111.2 million pairs of eyes. That was THE masterclass in composure and follow through. Jordan game 6 tier but I'd claim even bigger considering the half time deficit. I'm not sure we'll ever see anything as mind blowing as that half of football, in the most important game of the year (and many players lives) again. That's what cemented Brady as the undisputed GOAT for me. Knowing that most likely no other man could have pulled it off.

@@Christopher._M2007 Brady is still the best QB I’ve ever seen still the record for QBR in a single season

@@TRDarnellForget the epic comeback Gronk is No1 weapon went down with season ending injury in the middle of a season imagine if that happened w Kelce going out mid season Mahomes not winning wo him

@@davis2k1234 QBR is the most useless stat ever. ESPN has changed the formula dozens of times but won't say what the formula is or how the number is determined. Totally bogus. If we can't know how you are coming up with the number, it doesn't exist. Aaron has pretty much all the QB rating records, traditional passer rating, the one where we know how they get to the total number, not some fake garbage like QBR.

Facts

No nobody would be crazy enough to submit himself to the level of discipline required to accomplished what Brady did. It’s much easier to never accomplish anything come playoff time and be called the best throwing QB. I always thought the ultimate goal in the NFL was winning the Lombardi at least Mahomes gets that part of the equation.

Belichick and the Patriots history before and now after Brady says that he carried that franchise. Now look at the Packers doing just fine with out Rodgers and they were very good before him.

@@Travis89-ob5tt Most people still thinks it’s Belichick and the defence. They still can’t put two and two together. That Brady went to another team without Belichick and his defence basically contributed to build that SB contender who was not viewed as such by most analysts and win the SB with that new team the first year . While Belichick was totally crumbling in NE. These equations should tell you all you need to know about Brady’s contribution . Brady = winning record + high probability of SB ring, No Brady = losing record + no SB ring.

@@michelleblanc6377 notice I said FORMULA. He left them and went to the same exact setup. Tampa was a top 3 defense are you crazy?? They already had two #1 receivers in Evans and Godwin. He brought AB and Gronk😂😂😂that was a super team! Stop it. Yall don’t watch these games. That team on paper was a super team and they played like it! Brady got carried in the playoffs by that defense. He threw 3 picks in that game against the Packers and that defense got the ball back! Thej got to the Super Bowl and that defense intensified! They held the Chiefs to 9 points😂😂 PAT MAHOMES SCORED 9 POINTS IN THE BOWL ON THAT DEFENSE. Stop it.

@@dadestar5 No they were not top 3 they finished 6 on the points allowed metric. They struggled the whole year on the defence until they put it together for the playoffs. I will grant you that they were spectacular at the Super Bowl. He recruited Gronk, Fournette and AB and requested that they bring talent on the O-Line hence the selection of Tristan Whirfs as their first round pick. They were a perennial losing team before the arrival of Brady. 25% of theirs starters were brought to Tampa by the arrival of Brady. No Brady no super team and you know it. You stop the media BS where it was only the arrival of Brady that turned it around. It is Brady + all the moves in drafting and signing that turned this team into a super team. It also took close to half the year for that team to gel and perform like a super team just to prove that the super team could have turned into an utter disaster if they were not able to come together and gel as a team after the bye week. The fact that they had a stellar performance on defence does not change the fact that they were ranked outside the top 3 defence wise. He was carried but scored 31 points on the Chiefs and over 30 on all the other teams that they encountered in the playoffs give me a break. Godwin is not WR1 he barely hits the 1000 yards per season. He is just a very good WR2. Do you want me to put Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce in comparison? Why do you Mahomes fans have to make it sound that it’s all on the QB and when it’s Brady it’s everybody but the QB.

pocket awareness 10/10.

Throwing to running backs half the time and screens don’t require great footwork💯

@@Dipset415yes that’s it bro… other QBs should just do that and they’ll get 7 rings too lmao

@@mateobello391 lebron and Brady the most manufactured careers of all time Brody has nothing to do with talent 💯😭🤪

@@mateobello391 Sure when other QBs get drafted by a team like the Pats who had elite defenses and offensive lines the entire time Brady was there, they can get 7. Mahomes probably will, an elite talent who is playing for an excellent franchise. Super bowls aren't an indicator of talent. Dan Marino was better than Terry Bradshaw in every way. Bradshaw has 4 super bowls and Marino has zero. Marino has 3 MVPS and is the clear and obvious vastly better player. Once you realize that, youll start to realize super bowls don't determine greatness. It's not the NBA, Tom Brady is not MJ. Brady doesn't play defense at all. It's not a 5 V 5 game, NFL has 22 starters not even counting special teams. It takes a whole team, and if Brady got drafted by the Bears or Jags and had to suffer his whole career there he would have zero super bowls.

Did you read or listen at all💀

Your scenario is flawed at the base. You first assume that Brady is just an above average QB because most of his best metrics are not athletic therefore he does not measure to your benchmark of star/superstar which you wholeheartedly grant to Aaron Rodgers. Because based on your assumptions i do not need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that in your mind the first one is Tom Brady with the Patriots and the second one is Aaron Rodgers with the Packers. You then decide to add another coat of false assumptions Star/Superstar on both sides of the ball. Do you know anybody that would really measure up to either Davante Adams, Jordy Nelson or Greg Jennings that played with Tom Brady during the first 6 years in NE where he did manage to win 3 SB where there were two that were back to back. So please answer the question as to which level of talent was available to Brady on offence if he had stars and superstars on both side of the balls? A superstar QB can help his team by not being a self centred prick who thinks he his the smartest man in the room whenever he enters one. Because helping your team can be as easy as running a series of run plays to use as much time on the clock as possible to allow your defence to recover before the next series of play on defence. You have to be coachable to do that and understand that the team imperatives are bigger than your own. Talking about thinking of being the smartest man in the room does the word “immunized” ring a bell? That attitude can create a climate as to if he is that smart let him try to win a SB by himself and see how far he will go. Your scenario is further proven by his actions and his me me attitude the talent was mainly available on offence because of bad management decisions to just cater to Aaron’s demands instead of spreading the talent on both sides of the ball. Aaron egotistical approach when it came to his salary created an even wider gap when it came to talent availability. The inability to grant Brady superstar status just because he is not as athletically gifted or cannot throw an as aesthetically pleasing ball is hogwash in my opinion. If you actually took time to listen to the video you would know that Brady’s biggest asset is his brain as pointed out by Nick and Colin last time i checked it still was part of a QB talent package. I don’t understand your insistence or persistence of trying to qualify Brady as just an above average QB if he was only that any team would get some other above average QB and lineup the conference Championships and SB wins like anyone would eat a bunch of skittles out of the bag. Heck even Bill who is supposedly the mastermind of the recipe could not replicate the recipe either before or after Tom’s presence. The worse part is it was right down disastrous once Tom was taken out of the equation. Not to be able to acknowledge that there is something above and beyond an above average QB once you have seen him do it again in TB with perennial losers for close to 20 years(because let’s not forget that he did the exact same thing when he cane onboard with the Patriots who were 5-11 the previous year and 0-2 before he took the helm to finish with 11-5 in his rookie year to finish with the greatest show on turf that he beats in the SB final ). I honestly think that it borders on bad faith when you do that. You seem like someone who is logical yet that incapacity to acknowledge that Brady was an exceptional player from the fact that he was really a notch above everyone when it comes to leadership and being able to process the game faster than anyone it just baffles me. The ultimate goal of a NFL season for any team or any player should be to hoist a Lombardi at the end of the season. When your actions do more to impede the capacity of your team to win instead of helping. You could be the most talented player ever I am sorry i would rather see you on the roster of another team and poison their locker room. If you know the story of the Patriots you would know that most of the time position by position raw talent on paper they were not the best team on the field. So what actually made them unbeatable day in day out. Here is the list of qualities they had individually: commitment, hard work, lack of ego, best effort, no one is bigger than the team, a sufficient level of talent at all positions, true complementary football. You complained that nobody answered your comments. Now that it is done let’s see what you have to offer. I am not convinced that you will have anything enticing to give me. But let’s way and see you might actually surprise me.

Because he doesn’t have the arm to model himself after Rodgers.

Yes but as the person above me said there's an obvious reason for that. He is the most like Brady in that he doesn't have the arm or the physical attributes. He can't model himself after Rodgers or Mahomes because he can't do the things they do.

@@nathanshackelford7812 no doubt, but he’s more athletic, albeit smaller, than Tom. He hasn’t tried to be someone he’s not, and he has embraced the skills he has. I find that admirable.

Get out of here. Stop with the Cam Newton rhetoric Brady had no real WR1 for the first 6 years until he got Moss and we all know what happened after. You go look at his second and third SB he was no longer the deer in the headlights QB that we saw against the Rams right up until the very last series of plays to notch the game winning FG. Greatness came when he had the supporting talent to be great. Go look at his early numbers he was still in the top 10 of QB’s until… Moss came along. Peyton Manning had Marvin Harrison. People and I include myself in that cannot put their finger on what made Brady so great because based on sheer talent alone there is no real reason that would warrant the level of success that he has achieved hence being the 199th pick of the draft. I saw some science program that had decomposed his motion and it was always accomplished in the same amount of time if I remember correctly which was providing with a better level of accuracy no matter the distance he was throwing at. The analogy of discipline and mechanics seems very appropriate. A lot of players consider that Brady has exceeded what Peyton has done in term of the mental game. Anyways you seem like the king of guy who has very little positive to say about Brady and I sense that the warranted or not cheating argument is about to pop up sooner than later.

@@michelleblanc6377 I don't watch anything that Cam does. But if you're familiar with Brady's career you'd know he started off as a game manager. That's a fact. Go back and watch his first SB run. His second season in the league and so on and so forth. You also ignored the props I gave him. I can't change history and neither can you. Sorry.

@@kablopz Sorry You are just quoting mainstream media. Brady was very ordinary in his first season and ordinary is a very big word because even the adulated Mahomes could not win a SB during his rookie season. If you actually know of Brady’s career I don’t have to tell you that prime talent on offence for NE is inexistent and will remain that way until the arrival of Randy Moss on season 7. Brady went 14-2 for his back to back SB campaigns and put top 10 QB numbers even without the presence of elite talent on offence. What more does he have to do? It’s not like he could enjoy 2 future HOF in their prime like Mahomes had on day one in KC.

@@michelleblanc6377 I actually watched football back then. Sorry. They weren’t an offensive team; the resources were pumped into defense. Brady was a game manager for part of his career. Even his teammates say so. He became great later on. Argue with yourself.

@@kablopz You are right it is not worth it to argue with a blind person who has the audacity to identify the problem at the root. Most people actually acknowledge that he was a game manager for season 1 I could agree that season 2 he was still trying to put everything together but you can’t make me swallow that a 14-2 QB with back to back SB wins is just a game manager especially considering the lack of top tier talent available on offence. I listened to a lot of Patriots documentaries and all the teammates actually agreed that beginning of season 3 was the turning point for Brady to be fully in charge of the offence. But for someone aiming to undermine Brady’s legacy I definitely understand that it can be a hard pill to swallow. Because all the Mahomes afficionados (if you are one of them) that I have come across make it a point to insist Brady was originally a game manager in the hopes of lowering the bar for Mahomes to be crowned the GOAT also disregarding the impact of the two playoff losses that Mahomes experienced to the hands of Brady. Basically let’s discredit anything that we can in the hopes of crowning Mahomes as the GOAT ASAP.

Ehhh... Weird yes. Hippy. No.

If people think he’s a hippie yall are giving hippies a bad name