Uh dude you need to seek psychotherapy

they've gotten away with 80s NBA-style ball because no one was paying attention.

Could it be because the refs in the WNBA suck MORE than those in the NBA?

It's been like that for a couple of seasons. The commentary from the people who don't watch can be so wrong.

Reminds me of Knicks-Heat 79-73 NBA games in the 90's - unwatchable. Missing opportunity if they don't pivot into the Steph Curry wide-open style.

Usually lesser skilled players are more physical. Think of the 90s nba

That's more of a social attention span problem than a wnba viewership. You can say the same thing for every sport cause everyone makes takes and opinions on out of context clips

I haven't watched a game. Don't plan on to either.

I have

Just look up the ticket sales attention is there

I only watched CC's games out of curiosity but that fad has passed. She ain't gonna save the WNBA. Its unwatchable.

That is kind of how drafts work. Ask Wemby...

yeah I don't think I've seen so many missed lay ups in my life.

Roller Derby

No way he doesn't smell some peru when he goes to his Vegas trips lol

😂😂😂😂

First tell me what developing does she need to do and secondly tell me what did you think of her first 3-4 games and why she struggled?

I totally agree! They don’t need white knights to protect them. Also, where’s the analysis and criticism of the actual play & players? Where are the deep dives? Most of the new fans act like rabid Taylor Swift groupies.

It's not that it's just the hype that Clark came into the WNBA some veterans are going to try the rookies especially the number one pick it happens in all sports the cavs players said they didn't need LeBron when they drafted him I think it was Carlos boozer that said it and look how Lonzo was treated because of his dad running his mouth some players just don't transition to the pros like jimmer

No its exactly what colin said..and he got that from an ex PRO PLAYER!!Pat Beverly said the SAME EXACT THINGS because he practiced with the Minnesota Lynx...dont go against what PROS...tell you bruh

@@BryantBrothers-gm1qx lol every TV person says they "have a source" when most of the time they're full of it

@@noelramirez1551 nah I've worked in these type industries most of my life,you can't get pertinent info on your own all the time...they do NEED sources

I somewhat disagree. If you take a look at the most popular times in basketball, it was big man vs big man. Or, in terms of MJ, guard vs. physicality (ie Bad Boy Pistons vs. the Bulls). Steph Curry changed some things, but when the league was more popular than now, you had bigs going at it. Think Duncan vs. Shaq, Bird vs Magic, Abdul-Jabbar, Olajuwon, Chamberlain, etc. When you look today, you have Giannis, Jokic, Embiid, James, Wemby, even Doncic at 6'8". The big man has just evolved. But it is still taller and bigger men that are dominating the league. This also leads to this idea that more points equals more entertaining. It doesn't. One of the few times I agree with her, but as Jamele Hill once said, all of these new rules have tainted the record books. Stats don't mean what they used to.

Sorry, just to make one other point, when I played basketball in high school, my basketball coach hated back-to-the-basket basketball. It was always catch and face. In my head, I was like, "Yeah, you would totally say that if you had Duncan or Shaq on your team." (I am being sarcastic.) If he had Duncan or Shaq, I don't think he would take that position.

That’s the conversation no one is willing to have. She is just not that girl. Go tell her new crazed fans who know NOTHING about the game. It’s not the refs, it’s not the other players, it’s HER!! She didn’t win an NCAA title and she had two good runs. That should’ve told people that she is just not a closer.

Stop it. Steph was 170lb as a rookie and was pushed around. The warriors actually had conversations moving off him and keep Ellis because they felt like Curry couldn’t hold up. He got stronger and the skills we all saw came through. I think CC will do the same in due time and be an all time great. Curry didn’t win a championship in college either but we could see the talent.

​@@Mar1293why are teams focusing their entire defense like she is that girl then, why are teams playing her full court, doubling and face guarding her then if she's not that girl?

They look like hard fouls because Clark is at collegiate-level strength, she will be closer to pro-level strength next season. Guys have 6+ months to get ready for the NBA season after March Madness. She had 5 weeks.

You don't need to be pro level to not be pushed from the back when the ball isn't even in play. That's not growing pains that's not playing hard that's called being a dirty player.

@@robertsalfelder8111 Everyone is whining about dirty plays because their princess is flopping.

@@robertsalfelder8111 exactly it's unsportsmanlike

​@@UnconventionalReasoningso that wasn't a dirty play in your opinion, Caitlin Clark just flopped?🤔

@@ruyeliaslopez7783 Go apply to replace the WNBA commissioner.

If you are too soft for the league that has existed long before you came around go watch another sport.

@@Mar1293 I am not soft. I do not like basketball being played just like in prison. Maybe, that is where you came from.

Nobody else’s game in the W was beautiful all these years? Give me a break 😂. Caitlin’s playstyle definitely is a factor, but it’s a mix of a lot of different things. Caitlin had an incredible college career and her game is indeed beautiful, no doubt at all, but she is the prospect who blew up in a perfect storm after the tide turned in women’s basketball. The W being proactive when speaking on social issues in 2020 is what really sparked the turn and a lot of things have happened since that have made women’s basketball more interesting to the world.

Except Caitlin hasn’t been that great a shooter. She’s a good shooter, but she was in the 37-38% range in college & is struggling to shoot 30% as a pro.

She does long threes, and is good at assists. It's a good strategy in defense.

It happens for some NBA players. A few years ago, Pippen and TMac were talking about how to guard Harden. TMac asked Pippen if he would pick him up 94 feet. Pippen said he would pick him up in the parking lot as he got out of the car. Similar things are said about guarding Curry. The Celtics are going to consider some of this during the Finals against Luka.

​@@UnconventionalReasoningyour last sentence is spot on, teams play that type of defense during the playoffs. WNBA teams saw Uconn and South Carolina play Caitlin Clark like that during the tournament, teams don't play that type of defense on players at the beginning of the season

@@bigman7570 Yes, especially when the team is so top-heavy in talent. And when the player carrying the ball up wants the ball at the three-point line, as with Harden, Luka, and Clark.

She’s shooting terribly and turning over the ball 6 times a game! That’s bad.

Most turnovers due to the team not used to her passing, then she is charged with the turnover because they are not alert when the ball comes their way. They need more practice to get up to speed. Fagbenle is cognizant of this talent of CC.

Her shooting is better than you think considering she's a rookie in the W. Comparing her to her College play is not realistic. Like she has said, give her some grace.

Dude, this is literally how he's always been lmao

How do you figure the economy is struggling?

@@___dh__dh__ Quoted for your edification: "Even now, the economic facts are available to those who are willing to dig for them: Both rental and mortgage costs are now unaffordable. People are not grocery shopping as their needs dictate, because the prices of all food products are inflated by 40%. Rent prices are now 30% higher than they were before the pandemic. Those Americans with, say, four-five year set mortgage interest rates (now already unaffordable due to related housing costs such as rising insurance) at pre-pandemic levels, may be losing their original rates by 4-7 percentage point increases, at least, in 2024 and 2025. The huge growth of the homeless population -- while affected of course drastically by illegal immigration -- is yet another indicator of economic collapse. “Rising rents and low housing inventory spur an unprecedented level of homelessness in America” Older adults are being increasingly driven into poverty. According to the latest data from the U.S. Census Bureau, 14.1% of adults aged 65 and older lived in poverty, as defined by the Supplemental Poverty Measure, compared with 9.5% in 2020. That's about a 50% jump in just three years, meaning roughly 8 million older adults now live in poverty. Biden continues to lie about the economic circumstances of our country, and we have no reason to believe he will change: President Joe Biden defended his handling of the economy hours after a key economic report found that progress on slowing inflation has stalled, a continued bane on Biden’s presidency. US consumer prices picked up again last month, marking a 3.5% increase for the 12 months ended in March, according to the latest Consumer Price Index data released Wednesday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Inflation has dogged the president and his approval ratings on the economy have suffered as prices have soared following the easing of the Covid-19 pandemic. Biden pointed to success “dramatically” reducing the rate of inflation from 9% to 3% as he sought to convince Americans that “we’re better situated than we were when we took office, where inflation was skyrocketing.” Inflation, however, began to rise in 2021 -- Biden’s first year as president -- as normalcy began to return to American life following the worst parts of the pandemic. It peaked in June 2022 as the rate of inflation reached 9.1%” (emphasis added) Ruling-class Democrats talk the talk about sharing the wealth, but their own elitism and flagrant double standards, e.g. in extravagant life styles and stock-market shenanigans, tell a different tale. The elite’s lion’s share of our national wealth has gone from grown even more bloated under Biden: “In the third quarter of 2023, 66.9 percent of the total wealth in the United States was owned by the top 10 percent of earners. In comparison, the lowest 50 percent of earners only owned 2.5 percent of the total wealth.” Americans may take note of these disparities. At the least, we can probably expect that, by November, American voters will be ready enough to weigh in -- if only on the strength of their wallets." 🙄

@@___dh__dh__ What's funny about that is most people, when asked if the economy is tough for them, they tend to say it's fine except for a few things being expensive (because of corporate greed, but many try to ignore that). Then asked if the national economy is struggling, they say it's fine, inflation is below 4%, the stock market is at record highs, unemployment is low, GDP is strong. Then when asked about why it is struggling, they say, "It's tough for those other people I don't know. They don't say that, but that's what I'm told." Gullible lemmings.

What part of the economy is struggling?? Please enlighten us.

And like Trump, you believe anything the Russians tell you.

She's practicing the flopping for now.

@@UnconventionalReasoning I'm hoping she drops it asap. Hate all flopping in every sport.

If my dog is sick I don't need to be a doctor to tell my dog is sick. If a car isn't working properly I don't need to be a mechanic to know something is wrong. I don't need to be a woman to know when women are being jealous. On top of the fact Caitlin Clark is the only reason anybody is talking about the WNBA. Without her no one gives a shit. So if the WNBA wants more fans and more money it would be smart of them to take that aspect into account.

@@robertsalfelder8111 If your dog is sick, you probably do need a doctor to tell you what type of sickness it has. If a car isn't working properly, you do need to be a mechanic to know what is wrong. If a woman is feeling a particular way about a situation, it is better to ask her what she is feeling than to misinterpret it. The only reason people are talking about the WNBA is because there is a story around the Great Savior. Okay, without her, you don't give a s***. So stop giving a s*** and go worship her. The WNBA doesn't want fans like you.

I'm sure you're better than all of them.

Doesn't matter it's her that brings the WNBA attention and money. Without her no one gives a shit.

@@robertsalfelder8111 obviously not nobody seems to care how bad they are or the fact an apposing team player shoves your number 1 pick to the ground and no one defends her no one,

@@robertsalfelder8111 well that sounds like a fan problem her team is 2-10 she scored 9 points in their last loss she's in every other commercial and things she is a loser because her team is even though the media has Catlin in witness protection her they have awarded a monster is another loss

Casual detected.

Sounds like you're jealous.

Sounds like you don't have a clue what you're talking about jealousy is going to kill women basketball.

they only play like 3 months

@@michaelmartin4366 There is no jealousy, but it's a convenient Red Pill label men throw at women when they don't want to try to understand what they're really thinking. Because they're convinced they already know. DKE.

So I guess calling her racist and thug when she does a flagrant foul on Caitlin is a bit much. She does it to black players too. Wnba been physical for several seasons.

Interesting - Nick is one of my favs!

It was a soft check. In a hockey game, it would barely be noticed. In a football game, the defender would get bench for such a weak tackle. It looks worse because Clark is still too weak.

Nick has always been woke. You should've seen him 4 years ago when he was crying over George Floyd. I'm like, "you always cry when criminals high on drugs get killed?"

I think we need to have the conversation about Caitlin’s body. She has got to put size on. She’s too small.