Why Abstraction Is TERRIFYING! - The Amazing Digital Circus

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Ай бұрын

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@MarxistMomentum
@MarxistMomentum Ай бұрын
I can imagine a kid curiously watching this seemingly kid-friendly show, and then leaving being introduced to a concept like abstraction that makes death look preferable.
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
Every generation needs some kind of trauma from a kid's show! My generation got The Lich, the previous generation got disney animated movies XD
@mohamedhediftirich5728
@mohamedhediftirich5728 Ай бұрын
Courage the cowardly dog made my childhood more memorable till now
@orbboom6119
@orbboom6119 Ай бұрын
​@@TrueLocalEnthusiastfrfr
@M.R.BrickFilms
@M.R.BrickFilms Ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiastThe Lich and The Beast from over the garden wall
@WannabeArtist55
@WannabeArtist55 Ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast A fellow Adventure Timer I see? Mine was Steven Universe since I watched that show more…
@BenjaminMellor
@BenjaminMellor Ай бұрын
I think Jax even shows slight signs of abstraction by showing boredom. Him not getting entertained enough could drive him to insanity, causing abstraction.
@Mr60Gold
@Mr60Gold Ай бұрын
I will say this. I think Ragatha is the next to abstract, she will be a heavy punch for Pomni as the only important character that tries to help here and we get hints of her demise in these 2 episodes if you ask me. In episode 1 she glitches saying in how much pain she is, due to an abtraction (aka Kofmo), she also shows hints of mental instability when she talks about losing hope, despite her happy demeanor she seems to be barely holding on imo. In episode 2 she literally gets impaled by a candy spike which could be foreshadowing her death through a simple gag. I might be overthinking it but I do think that if anyone in the group will become abstracted, Ragatha will be the one.
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
Honestly I could definitely see it, however I think Kinger is the closest one considering how unstable his mind is at this point.
@indiemedley1209
@indiemedley1209 Ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast Kinger's instability is possibly a boon in disguise. Sure he's completely insane, but he's crazy in a benign way. He can never lose hope, because he's always in a sort of daydream-like haze. With consistent memory loss, coping mechanisms will never stop working, because for him, it's always the first time he does or hears something. Kinger is completely off his rocker, but I think that works in his favor ultimately
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 Ай бұрын
I also think the spike through the heart might be forshadowing a romance between her and Pomni, only to have it ripped away with Ragatha abstracting, leaving behind a broken heart.
@roca7268
@roca7268 Ай бұрын
​@@indiemedley1209I couldn't have said it in a better way. Also, is Kinger really that crazy? The reason why he seems crazy is his memory loss that comes and goes (that is also the reason why he keeps getting startled), but if it wasn't for that, he's actually a pretty reasonable person. Even wise and self-aware, at times: "we're really bad at this"
@CutWat
@CutWat Ай бұрын
also a prediction on who arrived to the digitial circus 1. Kinger obviously 2. Most likely Gangle since she also appears to just be fully accepting of her character 3. Jax since he clearly takes full advantage of the world he now lives in 4. Ragatha since she is still pretty human 5. Zooble since all she wants to do is stay away from any adventures and would rather be alone 6. Pomni for clear reasons
@qua_xor3348
@qua_xor3348 Ай бұрын
I think at this point Kinger might not become abstracted in a long while. (He will probably will get abstracted in the show but alot later.) Dude has probably lost his lover and he still is hanging. His mental fortitude even when he's a schizo lunatic is insane.
@qua_xor3348
@qua_xor3348 Ай бұрын
Also i am guessing the series is inspired alot by i have no mouth but i must scream
@lilacangelblue2404
@lilacangelblue2404 Ай бұрын
Bro is a flavor of crazy that is almost protective. He's not desperate or depressed, he's vibing. Can't go nuts if you are already, but it's a crazy that doesn't kill
@malcolmsaint
@malcolmsaint Ай бұрын
Do you age in the digital realm ?
@raptorskilltor4554
@raptorskilltor4554 Ай бұрын
@@qua_xor3348even the creator admitted it being by inspiring it
@orbboom6119
@orbboom6119 Ай бұрын
Reminds me of Ice King lol
@michaelkennedy6759
@michaelkennedy6759 Ай бұрын
Abstraction is also the way out. It proves that the player's mental state actually affects the simulation in a way it can't wholly control. Figuring out a way to Abstract correctly and turn those powers on Cane, is probably the only way out
@yeeyeeyeeye
@yeeyeeyeeye Ай бұрын
I think of abstraction as a literal interpretation of what you feel mentally when you finally break down and have a mental health crisis. It just feels all too familiar to me as a person who has had plenty of those in the past.
@Irken_Invader_Zim
@Irken_Invader_Zim Ай бұрын
This feels very lovecraftian
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
Definitely, way scarier than I thought it would be
@n_coder
@n_coder Ай бұрын
Gooseworx took some inspiration from cosmic horror, if I recall it properly
@StyleshStorm
@StyleshStorm Ай бұрын
So it's like real life but technically worse because living forever ♾️ as a many eyed insane fiend with a whole new level of schizophrenia is worse than death itself because the suffering never ends.
@n_coder
@n_coder Ай бұрын
I think it's interesting to try and separate the instabilities that the characters got in the circus from the ones that they already had in their real lives. Pomni already arrives displaying severe symptons of anxiety, and Gangle has an avatar made outta the idea of masking depression. To understand how they arrived into the circus may help us to also understand how the circus will affect them. Kinda like how Kinger's dementia prevents him from totally losing it. Considering characters like Gangle, Ragatha and Zooble, I highly doubt that the avatars are designed upon nothing
@cronical246
@cronical246 Ай бұрын
I feel you underestimate Kinger Gangle on the other hand
@coolguy5133
@coolguy5133 Ай бұрын
Gangle will be fine, as long as people stop breaking her Comedy Mask.
@ddesmarais7251
@ddesmarais7251 Ай бұрын
I doubt they would pull an Arcane and kill characters before they get to have any arcs or purpose, pretty much giving most of the cast plot shealds for the time being. No one actually has a chance to go for a while, Other than maybe Ragatha since her main purpose in the plot kinda already finished in episode 2
@n_coder
@n_coder Ай бұрын
​@@ddesmarais7251for real, I feel like Ragatha is hanging on by a thread
@nightwatch3889
@nightwatch3889 Ай бұрын
Well, since you're immortal in the Digital world, of course it's an eventuality, the same way that if you were immortal in real life, you'd eventually break your spine. Or you'd eventually meet a billion people. Or really anything. Everything that can happen _will_ happen given eternity. And if I was taken to the Circus, that probably would be my biggest fear or at least the most existential thing I'd be thinking about. That I'm here forever and if I can't keep myself healthy and stimulated with Caine's activities literally forever I will experience abstraction.
@n_coder
@n_coder Ай бұрын
The very idea that you will abstract no matter what is a great kickstart into the actual process
@nightwatch3889
@nightwatch3889 Ай бұрын
@@n_coder that's true
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
This video was supposed to be release THREE DAYS AGO! I kid you not my wifi has just been refusing to work with me!
@Pico983
@Pico983 Ай бұрын
I would've raged the 4th try and broke my wifi router
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
@@Pico983 You have no idea how close I was XD
@captainpotat4005
@captainpotat4005 Ай бұрын
move starbucks buddy, nice vid btw
@Pizatep
@Pizatep Ай бұрын
The key to not being abstracted is basically “d e t e r m i n a t i o n”
@kingcamelot1395
@kingcamelot1395 Ай бұрын
If this were anything else, I'd berate you for that obvious Undertale joke. But... you're right. Ultimately, it is strength of will and determination that prevents you from abstracting.
@M.R.BrickFilms
@M.R.BrickFilms Ай бұрын
What makes it more scary is what happens to the body of an abstract avatar, are they dead or would also lose their minds 😨
@dustymcwari4468
@dustymcwari4468 Ай бұрын
Maybe they're left in vegetative state
@goatlover6312
@goatlover6312 Ай бұрын
This is under the assumption that they still keep the body around. Perhaps their consciousness was uploaded and once their mind was in the circus the body was simply disposed of. Or maybe they are just a copy pasted memory of whoever put on the headset and there is a real them somewhere outside the digital realm. Just some disturbing potential theories, escape might just be impossible.
@YOURSMOOTHIE-miss_circle331
@YOURSMOOTHIE-miss_circle331 Ай бұрын
And abstraction monsters are more like animals? 1:34 like here its grooming itself lika cat!
@Lumberjack_king
@Lumberjack_king Ай бұрын
The thing is when people abstract a new human takes their place
@malcolmsaint
@malcolmsaint Ай бұрын
There's no proof of that. And the members wouldve commented on that pattern
@Lumberjack_king
@Lumberjack_king Ай бұрын
@@malcolmsaint fair point it’s just weird how pomni arrived at the same time koufmo abstracted
@av3_ther
@av3_ther Ай бұрын
i believe this theory too. people have noted similarities to other characters not in the show like a dog character and queenie. maybe after they abstracted, they were replaced by characters who are similar?
@yosburbgur6849
@yosburbgur6849 Ай бұрын
Personally the theory I’m going with is that abstraction only disconnects you from your model. Kaufmo isn’t the beast in the room. His mind is somewhere else, and the leftover model is what is attacking them.
@sloft-70
@sloft-70 Ай бұрын
That's odd because you can see Kaufmo's pov (not just a camera angle since the vision is distorted) when the abstraction found Pomni so there's still maybe a conciousness in it.
@michigan_propaganda
@michigan_propaganda Ай бұрын
Abstraction really reminds me of “madoka magica” with the hole turning in to a monster(witch) I do wonder if that anime was a inspiration in some way
@ironicpolis7798
@ironicpolis7798 Ай бұрын
absolutely. not in a bad way, i feel like gooseworx took inspiration from multiple sources for this show
@ZsoronZ
@ZsoronZ Ай бұрын
Why do people say that you can't sleep in the circus? Nothing ever said or even alluded to that in the first episode and in the second one we see Pomni sleep.
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
Don't need =/= Can't
@ZsoronZ
@ZsoronZ Ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast There are many people specifically saying that they can't, and the way you worded it made me think that was what you meant.
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
@@ZsoronZ honest mistake, don't know why people are saying that
@monsterplay1007
@monsterplay1007 Ай бұрын
Wait, if you abstract when you become crazy, why Kinger isn’t abstract?(Is something that I don’t understand)
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
He's holding on by a thread...
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji Ай бұрын
Well he may be crazy but he hasn't lost himself yet
@SorielHDTBers
@SorielHDTBers Ай бұрын
Well, it really just happens when you reach your breaking point. Kinger doesn’t seem like he’s quite there yet.
@hartenny
@hartenny Ай бұрын
He has serious short term memory loss.
@malcolmsaint
@malcolmsaint Ай бұрын
I think abstracting has more to do with your fortitude, and character. Kinger has shown no signs of despair.
@rotomfan63
@rotomfan63 Ай бұрын
Now I wonder what if someone in the circus tried to abstract as many people as possible as fast as possible in order to sabotage it
@thejurassicking3817
@thejurassicking3817 Ай бұрын
I think Jax knows that being a dick gives him the best chance to not abstract for a long time. If you ground yourself to a person and they abstract your going down with them. Being a dick to everyone means that new people that new people that come to the circus now prolong the inevitable by giving you new people to be a dick too.
@KiraiKatsuji
@KiraiKatsuji Ай бұрын
It in short is just Immortal Vampire Zombie
@GiantGunt_EthanRalph
@GiantGunt_EthanRalph Ай бұрын
The show is an allegory for the exisential crisis i experienced following a particularly powerful mushroom experience.
@fatgecko1616
@fatgecko1616 Ай бұрын
The memory loss is not gradual. Nobody has any memories when they arrive, hence why they're given a 'random' name.
@tomasavendanozacarias5205
@tomasavendanozacarias5205 Ай бұрын
You yourself mentioned Patches and it worked realy well for him he lived thru all of existance by being an a-hole, he is THE UNBREAKABLE for good reason, dont you think?
@ItsHealey
@ItsHealey Ай бұрын
Amazing digital circus Sounds fun sign me
@lukegeraci1743
@lukegeraci1743 Ай бұрын
Basically turning into a chaos spawn
@Serpentine8184
@Serpentine8184 Ай бұрын
What if abstracting is the only way to get out of the Circus?
@SurnaturalM
@SurnaturalM Ай бұрын
It seems inspired by "I have no mouth and I must scream" novel.
@Dumbozo_II
@Dumbozo_II Ай бұрын
I think extreme apathy and curiosity can probably last you a while, after all, there seems like a lot of stuff to explor in the digital circus.
@venomouswyverns8819
@venomouswyverns8819 Ай бұрын
is that the slay the princess ost in the background, such a gem of a game
@kingcamelot1395
@kingcamelot1395 Ай бұрын
Ironically, it is Kinger's absent mindedness that prevents him from abstracting. His mind wanders off, he blankly stares at things, he experiences bouts of short and long term memory loss. If he had a breakdown, he'll probably have forgotten he had one 2 minutes later. It's funny, actually. He staves off insanity by being crazy.
@blackbomber72
@blackbomber72 Ай бұрын
The Amazing Digital Circus propose the question: what would happen if your mind died before your body? With immortal bodies, eventually your mind will give in, turning into a hollow/abstraction
@anticarrrot
@anticarrrot Ай бұрын
Tastes like fanfiction... There seem to be two themes in the show so far. The players are trapped. The GM doesn't know what he's doing, and is lying. This world is presumably a relatively recent creation, since computers have only been around for so long. We don't know how stable this pkace is, or how stable Caine is. Either one collasping would prevent the inevitability of abstraction for everyone.
@LuigiDOTexe
@LuigiDOTexe Ай бұрын
Respect for you using the Slay the Princess OST.
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
Although I love that game greatly I shall be honest and say that was Hollow knight music
@ceinwenchandler4716
@ceinwenchandler4716 Ай бұрын
0:40 So are you saying that Caine is subject to abstraction, too? That's been one of my mini-obsessions since I first saw this show: Can Caine abstract?
@malcolmsaint
@malcolmsaint Ай бұрын
He's an super intelligent ai that doesnt understand human emotions, so probably not.
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
Key word being "Person" I don't know what he is but I doubt he's a normal person in any way.
@eternallylearning2811
@eternallylearning2811 Ай бұрын
You know what if pomni was the second to abstract and the show follows everybody else It would show how harsh things actually are
@evanholloway1692
@evanholloway1692 12 күн бұрын
It’s very sad. These humans lost control of their own minds and became a monstrous glitching beast, and then Caine banishes them to the cellar. We got stop Caine.
@goatlover6312
@goatlover6312 Ай бұрын
Honestly the two I see most likely to abstract next are either Gangle or Zooble. Gangle: Seems to try and hold on by hiding behind a mask of happiness but it’s literally and figuratively a very fragile mask. Not sure how long she can keep that up. Zooble: First of they seem to try their hardest to stay out of all the adventures which means they do not only spend a lot of time alone but also receive very little stimulus which will probably lead to a great deal of hopelessness and stress leading to abstraction. To add salt to the wound they probably got the worst luck when it comes to their new body, their uneven, unbalanced, falls apart easily and can barely walk. Also they seem to suffer from memory loss more than the rest since while the others forgot their names Zooble also forgot their gender, who knows what more they forgot.
@joseignaciogazzi3278
@joseignaciogazzi3278 Ай бұрын
I bet Ragatha will become a villian in the future.
@PFGFrankly
@PFGFrankly Ай бұрын
Government need to pay him 500k due to the mistske
@melmanthehamburger6763
@melmanthehamburger6763 Ай бұрын
this is basically a metaphor for irl death.
@xanamarion1844
@xanamarion1844 8 күн бұрын
Everything you said in the video sounded like Hell without the fire
@viennasavage9110
@viennasavage9110 Ай бұрын
tbh Abstraction didnt look bad in episode 1 because they kind of turned it into a joke with how it beat on Ragatha and the Gloiks queen. So either it isn't that bad or the tone was a little off
@iCar_1372
@iCar_1372 Ай бұрын
Hot take, I think Zooble will abstract first. I noticed in the latest episode that everyone seems to have some sort of attitude/coping mechanism towards dealing with their situation. Ragatha choses to be positive and play along with what’s going on to keep up some normalcy. Jax choses to have fun by being mischievous.(Think that one person playing a video game that takes joy in breaking the game and low key harassing the npcs by attacking everything. Something kinda like that) I realize that this isn’t Gangle’s fault, but I think her strategy is expressing emotion. That is a healthy way of dealing with something like this, I think. Pomni doesn’t seem to have a method yet because she is in a constant state of panic and confusion. She may or may not find a strategy in later episodes idk. I wasn’t sure about Kinger’s UNTIL episode 2 when he’s comforting Ragatha, who is worried that Pomni is having a bad time. He basically says not to worry because he remembers when she was the same way when she arrived to the circus. But when Ragatha responds, he is basically like “what?” Totally forgetting what he said. I think his method is disassociation. Zooble’s is the leaat constructive because it involves pessimism and avoidance, something that will not help to find normalcy, and avoiding missions provides a distraction, but Zooble has actively avoided (or tried to avoid) every mission provided up to this point.
@SmollRuby
@SmollRuby Ай бұрын
for some reason i find pomni kinda reletable
@SorielHDTBers
@SorielHDTBers Ай бұрын
Who doesn’t?
@SmollRuby
@SmollRuby Ай бұрын
@@SorielHDTBers dunno, but Kinger is Relatable too Lmao
@SorielHDTBers
@SorielHDTBers Ай бұрын
@@SmollRuby Okay, that I feel less people would relate to.
@SmollRuby
@SmollRuby Ай бұрын
@@SorielHDTBers i mean the most reletable is that he's 50/50 insane and forgetful or a genius, i kinda relate to that not gonna lie
@OmskHmmmmmmmrahhh
@OmskHmmmmmmmrahhh Ай бұрын
​@@SmollRubyagreed
@raze5555
@raze5555 Ай бұрын
My prediction, Pomni delete or freeing all human but she will stuck there forever because of caine until she abstract
@entropyOTD
@entropyOTD 24 күн бұрын
Kinger avoids abstracting because he made the madness his identity.
@jacobmosovich
@jacobmosovich Ай бұрын
I think Jax is going to be the next one to start abstracting. He seems to be clinging to the missions almost desperately during the episodes so far. He follows them to a T and completes them in the most efficient way possible. Hes losing interest. He might have a mental break here soon before Kinger does but i think Pomni or the others are going to notice in time and save him.
@theparrishshow9803
@theparrishshow9803 Ай бұрын
0:10 I’ve been saying this ever since the pilot came out. This is NOT a kid show.
@Mimikyu-guy
@Mimikyu-guy Ай бұрын
Since you said so, I MIGHT watch this, MIGHT if I do like it then we’ll I like it :/
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
Do it. *TLE said calmly*
@sardonicus1739
@sardonicus1739 Ай бұрын
I have my own theories in relation to the show. What if there are no actual humans present during the show? What if they're just copy's of the real persons mind and the actual people are still living out in the real world unaware that a virtual copy of themself is getting tortured in a program somewhere. Thing about it logistically. How are these vr headset wearing humans alive after all this time? They would need food and water, and to do their body functions. How exactly are they surviving all this time like vegetables?
@M.R.BrickFilms
@M.R.BrickFilms Ай бұрын
I believe that C&A, the logo we see when Pomni is running through the halls in the pilot, is a company using humans as test subjects for their developing VR headset and Pomni was an intern working for them and try out one out of curiosity What do you think?
@JMPT
@JMPT Ай бұрын
Very Nice 🖤🎪🎪🖤
@user-mh9qz4qi1f
@user-mh9qz4qi1f Ай бұрын
nice video
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
Thank you :D
@user-mh9qz4qi1f
@user-mh9qz4qi1f Ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast your have you ever heard of a show called detentionaire it's good 👍👍👍👍
@Asura_productions
@Asura_productions Ай бұрын
Its an escape
@REDEADTHEUNDEAD
@REDEADTHEUNDEAD Ай бұрын
It’s even worse if what I think is true which is these are not the original humans who put on the headset but digital copies made by scanning those peoples brains. There is no way out because you were never a Person and the original is still alive in the meat space probably completely unaware a sentient copy of themselves is suffering in a digital purgatory. Even escaping into the net if possible wouldn’t be a solution. As most of the internet is not equipped to handle a digital engram. Frankly they just don’t have vr spaces for them. It’s not like you become an all powerful AI like Caine just because your mind is copied. You still think like a human and in a way are limited by that. Either way all that awaits you is an infinite amount of time and no matter how you try to fill it or where you go eventually it will become meaningless and you will abstract where it take one year or a thousand.
@UltraVioletKnight
@UltraVioletKnight Ай бұрын
pfft my mind is strong enough to not abstract especially if i get to larp all day
@marialash4925
@marialash4925 Ай бұрын
They did not say that the character had to go to the Tolilet
@Die2934
@Die2934 Ай бұрын
🧏🏿
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
Seems you're first :)
@Die2934
@Die2934 Ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiastI clicked the notification way to fast thats why 🙉
@Die2934
@Die2934 Ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiastfan of your content to
@mungtran2106
@mungtran2106 Ай бұрын
A little late 😢😅
@Channelnamewillswitchbacksoon
@Channelnamewillswitchbacksoon Ай бұрын
Is that an ai voice?
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
no...
@macar0n.
@macar0n. Ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiastthat has to be the most wild thing to say ever
@Channelnamewillswitchbacksoon
@Channelnamewillswitchbacksoon Ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast LOL I KNOW THATSAN AI VOICE AHBABAHAHAHAHNJDHEWJFVRDSIGHUFJWETY98237RU328908R209RIUF2389FU82EUFJWEUSDYFJOWEISUVIJOSDKCYHBHJFODKLGHWJIRKSHFNOEW,JHDS
@Channelnamewillswitchbacksoon
@Channelnamewillswitchbacksoon Ай бұрын
@@macar0n. lol
@advilsgachashow
@advilsgachashow Ай бұрын
Early also I love your videos :)
@savosavic1222
@savosavic1222 Ай бұрын
u sould check out murder drones it also glich show that is rlly good nightmare fuel
@BatSamuel
@BatSamuel Ай бұрын
Sure it is lil bro
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
*Abstracts you*
@BatSamuel
@BatSamuel Ай бұрын
Lol
@ItsHealey
@ItsHealey Ай бұрын
I mean you can die eventually
@TrueLocalEnthusiast
@TrueLocalEnthusiast Ай бұрын
Nope. People inside the dimension can't die nor do they age.
@Kingofdragons117
@Kingofdragons117 Ай бұрын
@@TrueLocalEnthusiast I mean Cain has been implied that he possibly deleted a human on accident....
@Liam-lx8xb
@Liam-lx8xb Ай бұрын
Continue the mewing streek everyone 🧏
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