Why Aegon Married His Sister At 13 & Got Her Pregnant at 14 😨
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Did you know in the books Aegon married his sister really young? This short uses evidence from A Game of Thrones, A Clash of Kings, A Storm of Swords, A Feast for Crows, A Dance with Dragons and The Winds of Winter.
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@juliancain3872 3 ай бұрын
These two marrying other people could have been good alliances.
@DanLanningPRTeam 3 ай бұрын
Oh for sure would have locked up a victory for the Greens. At the same time it was all about appearances. The kings eldest son, Aegon having a sister-wife and heir named Jaehaerys was picture perfect from an outside perspective. When you compared them pound for pound to Rhaenyra, with her flamboyantly gay husband and obvious bastards it is clear which bloodline is “better” suited for the Targaryen line.
@juliancain3872 3 ай бұрын
@DanLanningPRTeam A seriously stupid take, though. Aegon could have had a son called Jaehaerys with any other woman, a Lannister, a Tully, even a Tyrell, and the kid would have been trueborn.
@Paranoidpedantic 3 ай бұрын
@@juliancain3872This is a terrible take, traditionally a Targeyan king takes a sister wife like aegon the conquer, the greens are meant to appear as the greater branch bc they have a heir named after the conquer and his son named after the second greatest ruler and a sister wife like most Targeyan rulers, the greens also have the crown and lived in crown lands and have the sword blackfyre almost every great symbol of house Targaryen. Another note against how he could have been with anyone but that's not true bc baelon breakspear the son of daeron the good in the dunk and egg novellas had heavy prejudice held against him for his tan skin and dark hair, daeron married for alliance but his child didn't look the part and the people were split into another civil war with the blackfyres bc he looked the part and held a important symbol the blackfyre sword. So now do you get why just marrying into a different family could have destroyed one of there symbols of rightful rulership
@juliancain3872 3 ай бұрын
@Paranoidpedantic The prejudice against Baelor was because he looked "Dornish" people didn't like the Dornish, their inclusion was still new to the Kingdom at the time, and during the Dunk and Egg series, the Targaryens had no dragons. Another thing, Jaehaerys and Alysanne married their son Aemon to their dark-haired half-sister, Jocelyn. Aemon was the Prince of Dragonstone and heir to the Iron Throne, I'm sure they knew that any child they had, even if it was a boy, had the very real possibility of having black hair.
@carastone3473 3 ай бұрын
That’s the point of the video 🤷♀️
@jaredgalarza 2 ай бұрын
And Alicent was mad about Daemon and Rhaenyra? Lmaoooo
@TheMandaloreFett 2 ай бұрын
🎶 Hypocrisy 🎶
@randomguyontheinternet8345 2 ай бұрын
It is shown in both the book and the show that Alicent isnt all there. Not a hypocrite but bat shit crazy. She started all this because she believed Rhaenyra would kill her and her children. When in reality she would have never done such a thing had Alicent just stayed in her lane.
@Kirasfox Ай бұрын
@@randomguyontheinternet8345 yep...they were best friends, R would've tried to reconcile but yk...as you said she's fckn nuts. She even did the hypocritical thing with Christian...sm
@Yourmuthasaidso Ай бұрын
@@KirasfoxAlicent likes sloppy seconds!
@Liztastaney7 Ай бұрын
Uncle n daughter was much worse even for her father.
@lonemotheomatshaba9640 3 ай бұрын
I think that's why Viserys had them marry each other so they would have less support to challenge Rhaenyra still think it was dumb to let them have dragons though
@baronbrummbar8691 3 ай бұрын
i in the books mean alient propoused that Aegon marries Rhaenerya ......... that would have solved the issue once and for all
@NeoGaymer 3 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra would have choked him is his sleep bro @@baronbrummbar8691
@heartlesslove9084 3 ай бұрын
How fans could be this dumb it wasn't in viserys control whether his children should have dragons or not. Dragon are willful creatures not dogs.
@lonemotheomatshaba9640 3 ай бұрын
@@heartlesslove9084 Jaeharys didn't give any of his kids aside from the heir and spare dragons what are you talking about
@liamcollins9183 3 ай бұрын
@@lonemotheomatshaba9640 the only ones he actively didn't allow to have dragons were Saera and Viserra. Vaegon and Daella never showed any interest in claiming dragons. And 3 of his children became dragon riders, Aemon, Baelon and Alyssa.
@prdgmshft9107 2 ай бұрын
Why go across town when you can go across the hall
@PoochZie 2 ай бұрын
Damn😂
@alisade127 Ай бұрын
😂
@BlanchyGataki Ай бұрын
NAURRRR
@husstartv2496 Ай бұрын
😂 😂 😂 Okeee I see what u did their
@thevampirecielphantomhive2342 Ай бұрын
The Habsbergs
@BleedingGrafitti 3 ай бұрын
They should've just married Aegon to Rhaenyra, and they wouldn't need to make extra alliances, or even a dang war.
@arianyxo 3 ай бұрын
Viserys didn’t want ‘alicents’ blood to sit the throne.
@Peterminator-nj3od 3 ай бұрын
@@arianyxoI didn’t want Viserys’s blood to sit on throne but here we are
@ellamorgan4392 3 ай бұрын
@@Peterminator-nj3odviserys is directly related to the Greens and Blacks? So that wouldn’t work
@IBeMelissa 3 ай бұрын
@@Peterminator-nj3od lmaoo
@frenchsterr4708 3 ай бұрын
@@Peterminator-nj3od😂😂😂
@S.D.323 3 ай бұрын
george rr martin trying not to write incest challenge level: one step above impossible
@thedorkone1516 3 ай бұрын
The only thing he has a harder time not writing is people shitting themselves.
@sunfyrae 2 ай бұрын
At this point we're used to it
@AGGARessiv3 2 ай бұрын
thats what they do in ancient time. They didnt want mix blood
@NiceIndeed 2 ай бұрын
Idk, it just seems really fitting for this world and it has a realistic touch. Most royal families spread across the world, at least the famous ones, did it. I think Japanese royalty even did half siblings occasionally? It’s definitely weird now that this isn’t a norm though, but I think it’s fine for a fantasy story
@Nerd-Baker Ай бұрын
GOT universe is incomplete without incestion.
@aegorbittersteel2154 3 ай бұрын
In the books King Viserys married his 1st wife when she was like 11 and he was 16. Book marriages can be super uncomfortable like I get it people married younger in medieval times, but still like when someone can't remember who married a baby for political reasons.
@archmaester6594 3 ай бұрын
Aemma was 11. Viserys was 16.
@aegorbittersteel2154 3 ай бұрын
@archmaester6594 thank you I couldn't remember
@brianlong2334 3 ай бұрын
Most of human existence we have had children in our teen years. I believe the most common was 14/15 for girls and 15/16 for boys or about 50% to 60% of the population. The next common was girls in their early to mid teens to men in their early to mid 30s. The Spartans took a particular interest in it and found that for the best offspring and survivability of the woman, possible was woman at 18 to 21 was to start having kids/ getting married obviously to men in their 30s. Edit: Let's have a look over the last 2,000 years in Europe. Woman on average, started having children at 15 they had 7 to 10 kid's along with 7 to 10 miscarriages / child deaths so roughly over the last 2,000 year's, they had 14 to 21 years of fertility/ windo to have the children, having children at 35+ could happen but it was rare.
@italianodblaugrana3842 3 ай бұрын
It was tyrek lannister he was 11
@aegorbittersteel2154 3 ай бұрын
@italianodblaugrana3842 it was the horse Lannister? Thanks for reminding me.
@yfhjojo 3 ай бұрын
viserys isn’t the typa father that woulda jus married his son n daughter off to other families so that they could have an stronger chance of killing his other daughter
@dra2521 Ай бұрын
She could have also married Helaena to Jace and solve literally everyone's problems
@pokemcnmaster 22 күн бұрын
Helaena and Jace would’ve been sweet
@sadfaerie5817 11 күн бұрын
@@pokemcnmasterright, like Jace at least liked Haelena or knew how to show kindness. Fu..
@pepethedeplorablefrog2224 8 сағат бұрын
Jace was illegitimate so that couldn't work
@RedWinter21 3 ай бұрын
Giving away children to marriages outside the family is one way to basically give away dragons too. Just look no further than House Velaryon, they're not the royal family, but they at least have 3 dragons.
@Lumosnight 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. Also if their blood gets too diluted they won’t be able to control the dragons anymore. It’s their Valyrian blood that makes them able to control dragons somewhat
@janellejulianajoy Ай бұрын
How does no one see this?! Three dragons, a naval fleet and a shitload of money. The fuck?! They aren't even mentioned by many people. And....they are Valyrian! But, Tully's and Stark's are above them? Come on now.
@Shannon-vv6rr Ай бұрын
Exactly. People don't realise that any Targ is extremely valuable to any family because of their dragon DNA, just one dragon is enough to take over and usurp, really.
@Youtube_Street_Drifter Ай бұрын
@@LumosnightNo one can really control dragons they still do what they want it was proved when Luke died
@ameliabrittain3689 Ай бұрын
@@KZfaq_Street_Drifterthat probably has more to do with Vhagar herself than dragons in general. She is a giant, ancient creature, much harder to wield.
@edgarrojas5060 3 ай бұрын
It's a good point, by marrying Aegon, Helaena, Aemond and Daeron to the heirs of other great houses the greens would have put half of Westeros on their side with that alone (Not to mention the support they could gain by other means), but it was an order of Viserys to marry Aegon and Helaena to each other, and it was probably also his order not to seek a wife for Aemond and Daeron in order to limit the power and alliances of the greens and facilitate the path to the throne for Rhaenyra (Who doesn't was striving to establish alliances on her own beyond the alliance with the Velaryon), so Viserys probably wasn't as stupid as we all thought.
@mesa577 3 ай бұрын
then why have 3 more children after aegon if he actually planned all that, if his goal was to not put obstacles infront of rheanyra?
@edgarrojas5060 3 ай бұрын
@@mesa577 I said he probably wasn't as stupid as we thought, but he's still pretty stupid, he obviously implemented that measure after realizing too late that his children and Rhaenyra were rivals. Furthermore, Viserys was a man, it was inevitable that he would have more children, only he was so delusional as to think that he wouldn’t have more children after Aemma died.
@Michael-bc3es 3 ай бұрын
The Targaryens already goofed by letting hightower into their family. Giving Targaryen children to all the other great houses and dragons would have just pushed the dance of dragons further down the line.
@edgarrojas5060 3 ай бұрын
@@Michael-bc3es There was no problem with other houses being within the Targaryen family circle, as long as it was handled correctly everything would be fine, the Targaryens really goofed up by choosing Viserys as king, that was the big flaw, a weak and negligent king who let the seeds of war will germinate uncontrollably because he doesn't know how to manage his family and the kingdom.
@Michael-bc3es 3 ай бұрын
@@edgarrojas5060 once his shitty sone was born he should have declared him the heir. If he had of there wouldn't of been a civil war. And if he wanted rhaenyra to be his heir he should have had all of the Lord's come to kings landing when he was old to renew their vows to her. Or even succeeded the crown before his death when he got sick to ensure the peaceful transition of power.
@Kokomisama391 18 күн бұрын
There was 4 simple solutions to prevent the dance: 1- Viserys stayed single after Aemas death because he already had an heir and no-one could challenge Rhaenyra's claim 2-Viserys did his duty and married Laena as it was proposed to strengthen the house instead of marrying a Hightower for his pleasure then forcing his daughter to marry her gay cousin so the Velaryon won't feel betrayed 3-He acceptes Otto's proposal to marry Rhaenyra and Aegon so both Rhaenyra and the Hightower were happy 4-Alicient accepted Rhaenyra's proposal to marry Jace and Haelena. Jace was a far better husband that Aegon could ever be, it was an alliance between the green and the black because Jace's was Rhaenyra's heir and Hightower's blood would still be on the throne with sweet Haelena
@Beniamin.F 9 күн бұрын
Number 2 is wrong, the other 3 are fine , if he marry Laena and she has a son , the Dance will happen non the less
@susu_5588 2 ай бұрын
The comment section seems like they just heard about the Targaryens lmao
@sarcasticsid5589 2 ай бұрын
I think they really just did 😂
@Cubeleaf 2 ай бұрын
Fr🤣
@user-vl9zp7yj4s 2 ай бұрын
And yis probably the first time they heard that people got married and had children earlier before.
@sleepingxbooty 8 күн бұрын
I know omg
@Borderose Ай бұрын
Viserys really messed up by letting almost every member of hos family have dragons. Jaehaerys had several children but only 3 of them became riders. He was very strict and careful about it. Jaehaerys and Alysanne of course kept their dragons from their youth, but the only ones among their children they allowed to have dragons were Aemon the crown-prince, Baelon, the spare, and Alyssa, the crown-princess who was marrying within the family anyway.
@ethannoel2589 3 ай бұрын
The issue that I find with them gaining alliance with House Arryn is the fact that Rhaenyra’s mother Aemma was from House Arryn- and I honestly doubt they would have joined the Greens for any reason like that; it would be like House Hightower joining the Blacks
@OcarinaSapphr- 3 ай бұрын
And what was going on in the Vale was what would happen in the realm-proper, in microcosm - Lady Jeyne spent most of her life defending her rights, to rule & choose her own heir-- she *understood* what Rhaenyra was facing- because _she_ faced it first. And other than the Stark loyalty to their sworn oath- Cregan *_also_* experienced something similar; while he didn't have to face the gender issue, he did still have to fight back against usurpation. I agree- the Vale & the North were always going to be on Rhaenyra's side. But I bet the Greens were surprised when the Reach didn't 💯% take their side, & splintered - guess they should have thought a bit more thoroughly about their choices... *_House Beesbury says 'Hello', & also 'F6ck the Greens...'_*
@therealistintheboot8822 3 ай бұрын
@@OcarinaSapphr-Greens>>>Whore Princess
@jisooschrist9717 2 ай бұрын
Lady Jeyne will be invited to be Aegon’s Queen while Helaena was married off to the riverlands who has a male heir
@vvt-4467 3 ай бұрын
Funny is that Alicent is the one offering Aegon's hand in marriage to Rhaenyra, showing that Alicent has a say in her son's marriage affairs. Not so different with how Queen Consorts had been arranging marriages and feasts as their power over the household. Not less, this ignores that when Helaena's marriage is mentioned in the books it is pointed that "all agreed she would make a fine ." Also, that their marriage pleased the faction of the Greens instead of the Blacks. "Prince Aegon had heirs of his own now, the greens at court proclaimed happily"
@mitkit99 2 ай бұрын
The Vale had a blood tie to Rhaenyra from her mother. Aemma Arryn was the daughter of Princess Daella Targaryen, daughter of King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne, and her father was Rodrick Arryn. Add the blood tie in with Aemma’s horrible death and how quickly Viserys and Alicent married, there was no way the Vale would have sided with the Greens over Rhaenyra. The Tyrells and the Riverlands sure, but the Vale was not going to go for anyone but Black. The best the Greens could hope was that the Vale would stay Neutral, but the Lady Of The Vale was Rhaenyra’s cousin, so that was not going to happen.
@may.k_me Ай бұрын
But Daemon's first wife was from the Vale and they think he killed her. (Which he did most likely) So would they really side with the Blacks still?
@perapapic3683 Ай бұрын
@@may.k_me in the end they followed their Lord Paramount. In the Vale you either fall in line or fall out of the moon door.
@CW-rx2js Ай бұрын
Agree
@CW-rx2js Ай бұрын
@@may.k_me they would, because it was Rhaenyra for the throne, not Daemon. Besides, in the books, Daemon did not kill Rhea.
@deaganachomarunacathasaigh4344 3 ай бұрын
Viserys should have arranged Rhaenyra and Aegon to marry when he came of age
@cobaltprime9467 3 ай бұрын
Why? Because they’re Targaryens. It’s what they do. Even Dani was drawn to her nephew in the show.
@ameliabrittain3689 Ай бұрын
Aye, senses his Valyrian blood. Stark and Targaryen is a hell of a combo though, with the Starks warging abilities. Really wish they kept Jon’s warging in the show. Can you imaging, him warging into a dragon?!!
@yunyunid981 3 ай бұрын
imo if viserys was rly all about peace (and rhaenyra being heir) like he said, he should've married the green kids to the black kids. these inward marriages and betrothals just furthered the divide between fractions. idk if they could ever truly reconcile, but i imagine they'd be at least somewhat civil w each other. also bothers me that aegon seemingly wasn't prepared to rule at all?? like if the greens wanted to sway viserys' opinion, they should've at least invested in aegon's education and character??
@mdubb6809 2 ай бұрын
They wed them together have as much Targaryan blood within their union and as high of a possibility that their children would be Dragon tamers. Look at House Velaryon: Their mother was a Targaryan, both parents of the blood of Old Valyria and yet only one could ride a dragon. Who needs soldiers when they could have dragons on their side
@maxi1ification 2 ай бұрын
Actually, both were riders. Laenor rode Seasmoke, and Laena eventually rode Vhagar
@ameliabrittain3689 Ай бұрын
All of the Velaryon children except Rhaena rode dragons. Laenor, Laena, and Baela. I mean, Laena had vhagar for goodness sake!! The most ancient and powerful of all living dragons. Velaryon is the blood of old Valyria. Just bc their ancestors were not dragon tamers doesn’t mean their Valyrian blood doesn’t predispose them to dragon riding. They still have the touch.
@coltonmarples4269 2 ай бұрын
I think the best pacts would've been with the Starks and Tullys.
@Shannon-vv6rr Ай бұрын
Hell no. That's giving two families the chance to get freaking dragons.
@TEHANU5389 3 ай бұрын
Having Aegon marry Helaena was done out of spite. Alicent didn't care if they were happy or miserable.
@sleepingxbooty 8 күн бұрын
How do you say I’ve never read the books therefore don’t actually understand the true story line without saying I’ve never read the books therefore don’t actually understand the true story line🤣
@OhioPaulDE 25 күн бұрын
This video was titled "why Aegon married his sister". It literally didn't explain the reason why he married his sister.
@GarbearFitness Ай бұрын
Do the targaryensonly have 5 name selections cause there’s 10 of every character
@ItsMichaelDavis Ай бұрын
"even though she was ugly, she had twins a year later" lmfao dude
@nom-nomnami1743 13 күн бұрын
I feel like, whenever they say a Targaryen isn't "beautiful" their standards are skewed 😂. Like, to me, the "average" Targaryen/Valyrian is almost otherworldly. So when GRRM decides to have his Targ/Targ adjacent characters describe one of them as "unattractive" they're probably still ^very^ attractive by our standards lmao.
@sarwatarannya8786 12 күн бұрын
@@nom-nomnami1743 from their book descriptions they seem like they would give off uncanny valley vibes. And the hottest character of either gender in both shows were non targ
@nom-nomnami1743 12 күн бұрын
@sarwatarannya8786 I'm curious who you mean lol. Since attractiveness is subjective. But you could also be 100% correct 😆
@sadfaerie5817 11 күн бұрын
@@nom-nomnami1743like in teen movies when the 'ugly' girl is just an attractive girl in glasses.
@terricox3559 2 ай бұрын
I never saw GoT. As a D&D fantasy book loving, knitter and board gamer, I didn't realise how nerdy this was and how many nerds it created out of the mainstream population 😂
@Real_gandalf Ай бұрын
You gotta watch GoT the first 4 seasons are amazing and the rest are alright except for season 8 which is just sad to look at
@sadfaerie5817 11 күн бұрын
@@Real_gandalfMy husband doesn't acknowledge anything past season 7. He hasn't even seen season 8.
@HallieJinLou 2 ай бұрын
What many people don't understand is that it was completely normal in the middle Ages to marry relatives to maintain the bloodline. Especially families like the Targaryens who have a special bloodline.
@tomthepeaceful 2 ай бұрын
In anceient Egypt it was common not in the Middle Ages, that was cousin or uncle niece not brother sister
@hasinahasena 2 ай бұрын
Noo, it wasnt 😂. Marrying your brother or sister was strictly banned and it was already Banner in ancient times
@muhammadasadabbas5479 2 ай бұрын
Sibling marriage was a taboo and if found person is executed so no it was not that much common only people we know who done incest were either egyptian or greece myths shows that even though they found it taboo but it was common to them
@abdejlilkhedhiri8987 2 ай бұрын
Check the acient eygpt civilisation , before being so sure lol@@hasinahasena
@Angel-ts8rc 2 ай бұрын
No such thing as a special blood, just in a better position of power and wealth. But post Christianity, (and before it) most of Europe was against sibling/sibling, father/daughter, mom/son, uncle/niece, aunt/nephew fucking. We know this as many were actually jailed and executed for doing such. Among other evidence pointing to Europeans general disapproval of these acts. Cousin/cousin has been more accepted throughout history and is still apart of some cultures today.
@panos617 3 ай бұрын
You can see now the hypocrisy of Alicent
@baronbrummbar8691 3 ай бұрын
Rhaenyra should have married Aegon ......... like Alicante proposed in the books
@huntertezz 3 ай бұрын
Or Jace could have married Helaena
@whatisreddin7367 3 ай бұрын
@@huntertezz why? hes a bastard
@huntertezz 3 ай бұрын
@@whatisreddin7367 I think he is kinda legitimized. They are also trying to act like he is not one.
@Berserker--18 3 ай бұрын
@@whatisreddin7367many bastard were legitimised on king/ queen order. Rhaneyra could legitimise him any time like corlys recognised lucerys
@scarletwizard5451 3 ай бұрын
No he is not. You could say Helaena and her brothers are bastards as well because they are hightowers😂 Both have Targaryen parents @@whatisreddin7367
@Thrawn23. 3 ай бұрын
Even with the marrige of Aegon and Helaena the greens still had quite alot of cards on the table. 1. Aemond should have been married to Floris Baratheon by the time he turned 13 or 14. Then he would have had a couple kids by the time the dance starts 2. Daeron should have been sent as a ward of Highgarden instead of Oldtown. He could have possibly persuaded the Tyrells to fight for Aegon through marrige. The only female Tyrell cousin that is named during Viserys, Aegon ii reign is Gallisa, so he could marry her which would turn most of the reach into green supporters. Daeron wouldn't have to force them after the Honeywine battle. 3. This could also be achived by betroving Jaehara to the infant lord Lynol Tyrell. Helaena wouldn't have to let go of her go untill she came of age. If war still broke out then she and Maelor would be deliverd to Highgarden or both to Storms End. Finally after the 2nd battle of Tumbleton is over they would still have plenty of men to march to Kingslanding and line up with the Baratheons to face the Northmen and Riverlands forces
@maya-nw9dw 3 ай бұрын
Just imagine how both of them were forced to sleep together...
@edgarrojas5060 3 ай бұрын
On Aegon's part I don't see any impediment on his part (We know that he didn't discriminate against anyone in that sense) and because of Helaena's aptitude both in the series and in the book, as well as the fact that she had three children with Aegon makes me think that she didn't care much about be married with him, It was just another duty for both of them.
@danika9411 3 ай бұрын
In the book they got along well. In the show it is implied that he has to be drunk to be able to "do his duty" in Ep8. Can't blame him. He is practically forced to sa himself and his younger sister. Would explain why he is so screwed up, that he doesn't understand consent.
@Yourpolice69 3 ай бұрын
Damn that's hot
@pixelated23-b9z 3 ай бұрын
@@Yourpolice69you’re sick
@Yourpolice69 3 ай бұрын
@@pixelated23-b9z so are more people than you think with stepsister being a genre and daddy calling.
@electronique-brain Ай бұрын
I think Alicent required her kids to marry each other in the traditional Targaryen way to show they were true Targaryens, unlike Rhaenyra's non-Targ looking children. She was also maybe a bit concerned that if she married them to non-Valyrians, their quarter-Valyrian kids wouldn't be able to claim dragons. Rhaenys and Corlys probably demanded Rhaenyra betroth her sons to their granddaughters to ensure that Velaryon blood was on the iron throne, but by agreeing to it, Rhaenyra deprived Alicent the option of marrying her sons to the only Valyrian dragonriders out there.
@georgelara3730 Ай бұрын
"They Have Queer Customs" -Alicent
@whambamrabbitman6770 3 ай бұрын
But surely marrying them off to other houses would dilute their dragon blood and allow other houses to have dragonriders and strong political rivals, much like how the Hightowers did
@drqstie3057 2 ай бұрын
yall, IT S FANTASY, REAL WORLD DISEASES DON T AFFECT THEM!! it s gross for us to do it, it s fine for them, get over it already.
@ShindlersFiist 2 ай бұрын
Lol wow. Shoot down our chances eh?
@wynonasbigbrowndragon6121 2 ай бұрын
The incest led to insane Targaryens like Maegor, Vaegon and Aerys I'm convinced Vaegon was a mad Targaryen that just didn't get the chance to act on it
@Sayoni-oz7md Ай бұрын
Huge respect for House Stark who didn't demand anything in return and just honoured their oath. This Morality of them immediately puts other great houses FAR BELOW them.
@user-rx6sv2ey4p 3 ай бұрын
Than that would have let the tyrells and the vale to have dragon riders
@pedrofernandes2466 3 ай бұрын
I know most of the fandom thinks that Aegon and Helaena should have married people from other of the great houses, but we must remember that they were only half Targaryens. If they had children with people with no Targaryen blood it would be very unlikely that their children could ride dragons. Something that Alicent probably would want for Aegon's heir.
@Vibrantglimer 2 ай бұрын
Game of thrones and house of the dragon made us feel normal to talk about incest 😂freely.
@a.k.aemperor2365 2 ай бұрын
Alabama
@Random-ue8si 2 ай бұрын
Fr but back in the days it happen a lot to keep the bloodline pure
@miyapozo 7 күн бұрын
Alicent made that move to keep Viserys from marrying Jahaera to Jacaerys
@laurelsilberman5705 3 ай бұрын
I think the greens realized this wasn’t the smartest option but made the calculated risk for a reason, a fairly obvious one: to increase the chances that Aegon and Helaena’s children would retain dragon riding abilities, because they are gearing for a major war and want to boost their credibility and claim to the throne. Once Alicent had grandchildren, she could use promises of future marriages to the babies to other houses if they also had young children, making promises for down the road rather than the more immediate concern of having more dragons hatch and having more possibly dragon riders to claim the adult, unbonded dragons, if for no other reason than to prevent the Blacks from claiming them, which they immediately do, using the dragon seeds to try and claim unbonded wild dragons or those who haven’t had a rider in a generation and are basically feral again at this point (Vermithor, fuck yeah)
@anitabarnes 3 ай бұрын
Helena and Aemond would have being a better choice because the first son was cruel and crazy
@vayne-he9yi 3 ай бұрын
Aemond is literally way worse than Aegon...
@anitabarnes 3 ай бұрын
@@vayne-he9yi I know that but he loved her in away
@vayne-he9yi 3 ай бұрын
@@anitabarnes He didn't love her. There is zero mention of this in the book and even in the show, nothing implies he loves her. All we have is one line of him saying "he would do his duty and marry her", which is meant to show how serious he is about his duties in contrast to Aegon who doesn't care. It has nothing to do with him being in love with Helaena.
@anitabarnes 3 ай бұрын
@@vayne-he9yi I understand but the way he looked at her
@vayne-he9yi 3 ай бұрын
@@anitabarnes Ok this is just headcanon then, nothing in the script or book implies Aemond is in love with Helaena.
@precioustraveler 28 күн бұрын
I try not to think about how much GRRM writes about underage sex (to modern standards) and incest. It is uncomfortably obsessive. The streaming series HAD to age up so many characters because it would be so utterly unpalatable to keep the ages as they were written.
@TikiHi77 Ай бұрын
Thank you for these shorts. I tried to do the audio books when GOT was out and just couldn't follow along.
@jennypillay9580 2 ай бұрын
You know ironically, if they married Aegon to Rhaenyra, he might have turned out better with outside influence instead of his mother and alicent constantly in his ear. It would have fostered a deeper bond between all the siblings.
@JPMitreN Ай бұрын
The Tyrell’s didn’t want any part in the Dance, right? Or why are they not mentioned?
@lleshoure 3 ай бұрын
Did you know that in the books 📚 Anyway subscribe for more
@wynonasbigbrowndragon6121 2 ай бұрын
Helaena on the show is interesting. I get, "Rain Man" vibes from her
@deusmachina343 2 ай бұрын
Disturbing
@TDdelta777 Ай бұрын
For not liking his sister he didn’t even have her the courtesy to wait till she at least was a bit older. Poor Haelena.
@thevampirecielphantomhive2342 Ай бұрын
The Habsbergs In A Nuttshell
@yamochanchan 3 ай бұрын
Yes.... we knew that... book and show are the same on this 😅
@bobtheminion188 Ай бұрын
Interesting that they followed the Targaryen tradition, but if they didn’t there would’ve been so many houses that had dragons/dragon riders-so probably for the better
@sleepingxbooty 8 күн бұрын
No. The dragons would of ended up dying off as they did before game of thrones
@iliaponomarev1624 3 ай бұрын
> should have married Tyrells or someone And risk having non-dragon-riding kids?
@alisade127 Ай бұрын
Brother and sister marrying is just disgusting!
@sleepingxbooty 8 күн бұрын
Not in the Targaryen bloosline
@piguelmonce9937 8 күн бұрын
No them marrying each other honors the traditions of old valariya gotta make sure that Targaryen blood doesn’t thin out
@kanhaibhatt913 2 ай бұрын
a 13 yr olds seed is so thin it would probably need to be collected before depositing😂
@thesandwich5321 2 ай бұрын
Henry VII's mother was forced to have him when she was 12, and that damaged her so much she could never conceive again. That poor girl... the twins would have in all likelihood either killed her or made her unable to have children for the rest of her life. One child would be bad enough, but twins... Jesus. There's a reason your body CHANGES as you go through puberty, it isn't bloody ready yet.
@TheTrollingMaster-xr9el 2 ай бұрын
luckily for her that didn’t happen as four years later when she was 18 she gave birth to a boy called Mealor. All three of her kids are seen in the tv show. She probably could’ve had more kids but Aegon stopped boinking her after she went insane.
@yeshwanthneeli4921 3 ай бұрын
In the show VISERYS declared Rhaneyra as his heir and all the Lord's of westros respected/accepted right then why don't they support her claim to the throne and why did the people and Lords accepted when Alicent proclaimed Aegon as the king even before king Visesrys funeral
@edgarrojas5060 3 ай бұрын
Because the vast majority of lords who had taken the vows of loyalty had already died by that time and their children had taken their places and they didn't have to follow the oaths of their fathers, so even Rhaenyra and the blacks had to offer conditions and deals to the houses that supported them to join their cause, if the oaths of loyalty had been worth anything at that point those deals and conditions wouldn't have been necessary. The lords of Westeros didn't care much about who had the most right to the throne, but rather who would benefit them the most.
@Berserker--18 3 ай бұрын
@@edgarrojas5060only starks were honourable in such cases. They were abided by the oath of their ancestors like cregan sided with rhaneyra. Other houses don't give a fuck😂
@edgarrojas5060 3 ай бұрын
@@Berserker--18 And the most ironic thing is that Cregan Stark also set conditions to give his support to the blacks, that the first daughter Jacaerys had was sent as a ward to Winterfell to marry Rickon (Cregan's son and heir) that is, he asked to have blood ties with the Targaryens, that guy didn’t lack ambition and intelligence.
@Berserker--18 3 ай бұрын
@@edgarrojas5060 offcourse marriage alliance ensured deeper bonds in those times but also when daemon was discussing battle plans, rhaneyra was 90% sure that Starks will support them because of their honour and not to mention the legend cregan was .
@Chasingdreams25 3 ай бұрын
Actually, Rhaenyra had more supporters from great house than Aegon, and her supporters remained loyal even after her death and marched on Kingslanding to avenge her. Aegon's supporters left him alone, then killed his a$$ @Berserker--18
@notloccoltonTM 15 күн бұрын
My boys and I are making our own conference army Air Force navy lmao gonna be so fun
@nicholascole9673 Ай бұрын
Homie titled the video like Aegon is a predator when the dude was also a child
@user-ej3fq8hm8q 21 күн бұрын
Got aegon mixed up with aemond lol
@WileChile51 27 күн бұрын
Bro, don’t put the “plumper” line. 😂
@Frijolemole 20 күн бұрын
Cool how this whole thing was influenced by the war of roses - a series of civil wars between the Lancaster and yorks of England
@shanoriya 27 күн бұрын
Alicent suggested it and Vasari said no because he wanted Rhaenera remain his air
@cosmicwalkeer8214 3 ай бұрын
My issue is that for some reason people blame alicent for marrying them when clearly it was Viserys who did it
@jonnavdpas 3 ай бұрын
Imagine having 2 kids at age 14 🤢
@riojackson6352 10 күн бұрын
Time change in the show fucked me up cuz old Aemond looks like mid season Aegon
@femilicious 2 ай бұрын
YUCK!
@agathabenevento4952 29 күн бұрын
It's not mentioned that it was Viserys who arranged the marriage.
@dorotheediener4060 3 ай бұрын
Or they could have just married helaena of to rhaenyra's oldest son.
@CombatMediaa 12 күн бұрын
Did you know that the actor who played younger Aegon is actually David tennants (doctor who) son
@roryerror7181 Ай бұрын
Father of the year
@IceAlvaro13 25 күн бұрын
In a fic I did in the past, Aegon secure House Baratheon and Helaena, although not for the Greens but for a original faction, secured the North. The Greens have four cards to secure great houses, the Blacks only two, bad playing at all.
@churdle92 29 күн бұрын
I must say Tom Glynn-Carney is doing a tremendous job portraying Aegon so far
@jexoexoedits 20 күн бұрын
Nah If Alicent had just agreed to marry Helaena to Jacaerys then all will be well and they wouldn’t have any war.
@caseygregori 29 күн бұрын
The greens have literally no moral high ground
@Deanio_1111 22 күн бұрын
At the time there wasn't an impending war lol.
@2232Stephen 23 күн бұрын
Hmm interesting thought to leverage Aegon to help secure the Tyrells Tullys or the vale. I'm sure Otto may have made that case to Viserys. But they needed riders, probably why he chose to wed true blood targaryens to increase their odds. More important than fuelty of any house
@Beniamin.F 9 күн бұрын
Their childrens were to young to fight anyway
@lilymack4028 18 күн бұрын
Poor Helena. Such a tragic figure.
@mariokartpro7406 Ай бұрын
well they obviously didn't know they'd be in a civil war and it'll create problems like giving valerians dragons
@nagimadaribaeva4361 Ай бұрын
In which chapter they were married ? I can't find 😢
@MaredOwen163 Ай бұрын
Alicent did the same thing as her dad did to her so she’s a bit of a hypocrite because she didn’t like being forced into marriage yet that’s what she’s doing to her own children
@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667 3 ай бұрын
Damn, incest between two teen siblings? Fucking wild.
@thelastgreyjoy8555 3 ай бұрын
The vale would not make sense because it's ruled by a woman and her rights a rule would come into question if she were to side with aegon plus her cousins were on bad terms with her so that would just be impossible
@mesa577 3 ай бұрын
why be a lady when you can be a queen.
@Baytudka 3 ай бұрын
@@mesa577she wouldn’t be a queen she would side with the greens meaning that she believes in the idea of men coming before women and that would be hypocrite of her and could end with her own men revelling to take her place
@Chasingdreams25 3 ай бұрын
@@mesa577Not everyone is green
@Zakkery456 Ай бұрын
They should’ve married them to the Velaryon cousins in Driftmark
@forwhomthebelltolls9657 3 ай бұрын
I hate how the cast doesn't have purple eyes :(
@yxxng1z943 3 ай бұрын
purple contacts look kind of silly though cgi could’ve been a good option as well
@lilibillybob123 15 күн бұрын
or they could have wed Jacaerys and Helaena instead, therefore ensuring that rhaenyra would still be the rightful heir, but a hightower would rule as well (jace and helaena would rule together and then their offspring would follow.) it would've also improved the bond between the greens and the blacks. plus I think helaena would've been treated better by jace compared to how aegon treats her. it also would've basically prevented the entire events of ice and fire.
@Fictionfactory555 11 күн бұрын
Their mother already wasn’t valerian so if they had kids with someone who didn’t have the blood of the dragon, their blood would be diluted even more the blood of the dragon is how you bond with dragons and without dragons, the Targaryen are just like everybody else
@Janellabelle Ай бұрын
They should marry almond to someone.
@AnaPuerto 2 ай бұрын
They married them so that their Valyrian blood would not be diluted, and their children could be dragon riders.
@user-nm8oo6kz1v Ай бұрын
Which movie is this
@theworldaccordingtonevaeh887 Ай бұрын
That’s why they all Go mad 😂
@ameliaflynnhayes 3 ай бұрын
So it was viserys in the books
@ohmynl Күн бұрын
Are you using real artists art and not AI art? Because of that's the case.. I love your videos 🎉🎉 I can sense they are real!
@nunyabiznes33 2 ай бұрын
Weren't the Tyrells completely out of the war coz the lord was a literal toddler?
@junyounggaming7160 Ай бұрын
Blood and cheese entered the chat !😂
@archivesincomplete 20 күн бұрын
I too am a somewhat sulky boy.
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